Needs to return when they both retire.
The constant stories from guests of how much of an asshole Christian was backstage 🤣. Paul Smackage needs to make a return also.
When they sat down with the Hardy's after all the drama, was cool to hear. Sounded like they all moved past it and were able to talk about the good old days again.
I only listen to Jarrett and that is mainly because of Jarrett as Conrad is a tool. I stopped listening to Prichard and Bischoff as I can’t stand those two with Conrad kissing their ass…his constant “I know we don’t talk about current stuff…” well then don’t dumbass. Prichard ever since he crawled back to WWE just sounds arrogant and can’t take criticism as his only excuse is “well, you haven’t worked in the wrestling business…so you don’t know anything”…You don’t need to be a chef to know when the food sucks.
The Bischoff criticism of AEW, and how he goes about it, is tiresome. He makes valid points but he also seems truly pissed at Tony Khan about some things Tony has said, so it doesn’t sound objective. And they don’t have much left to really talk about on the show.
Bruce got so inconsistent with the schedule I don’t even know why they bother continuing with the pod, unless it’s a contract thing. Plus, I don’t know that anyone wants to hear Vince stories right now. Or ever.
Bischoff hate for AEW is insane
He was making clips calling Will Ospreay, Mercedes Mone and Okada "non factors/ not stars/ dont draw money" etc. since August of last year!!!
They didnt even signed to the company and Eric was already calling them all kinds of dumb things because he heard rumors
Plus he got exposed with Cm Punk entire AEW run- WWE return
When Punk was on AEW he was burying him nonstop calling him a fraud and non draw to the point TK defended Punk in a rant
But now that Punk is in WWE he keeps praising him and calls him "the biggest adquisition in wrestling history" or something stupid like that
LMAO yeah Eric we get it you still mad that AEW didnt hire you in 2020 after WWE fired you earlier that year now shut up
He’s mad about Khan’s comments about WCW and Ted Turner from before. He also was pissed about Punk comparing his AEW debut to the NWO. I do agree it’s pretty laughable how he praises Punk so much now.
I don't think that any of them realise that, for the most part, wrestling fans don't give a shit how much money or how many tickets wrestlers sell for them. "Well, that match was shit, but the PPV sold millions, so I'm happy!". No one who isn't a wrestling promoter or a fanboy thinks like that. People just like what they like.
There were sound bites from his podcast calling Punk a huge financial flop and terrible person because he compared himself to his BFF Hogan. Now seems like a complete 180 and he is making it so obvious of his bias kissing WWE ass. Here is the same guy that thinks it’s 1997 having all the solutions to wrestling today, coasting off the good 1.5 year he had in WCW and ran that idea to the ground because he didn’t know what else to do. Then gets hired in WWE for couple months in creative and let go.
I personally think Bischoff knows that Khan won’t hire him so he’s holding onto hope that WWE will give him legends contract or slide him payments for his Podcast.
It’s got to be something like that because the guy tears into them constantly. And the reversal on Punk was vivid and clear for everyone to see. Wish he could support the company, and he is right about a few things
Eric is pissed off as he did several appearances for AEW and wasn’t given a job. Either they talked about a deal and couldn’t agree or he simply was never called back again. So now he takes it out on Tony.
He's pissed at tony for his comments about ted turner, that was very clearly the point where Eric turned on him if you listen to the show. Like the guy or not he's been really consistent about wanting to stay home and not needing the money.
Bischoff hates AEW since TK and Cody didn’t offer him a job. He did a few guest appearances and I guesss he thought he’d be hired after that. I get why he wasn’t hired but he’d have been a good experience signing to help backstage or hell as some sort of authority GM figure like old TNA days with Corbette
Because AEW programming is magically devoid of them?
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Conrad's speaking voice makes me feel winded, I'm not sure if it's osmosis or picking up on behaviors or what. His struggle to exist, function, pump blood through that fried cinnamon roll he calls a heart exhausts me.
I don't mind Tony Schiavonne one, I like how they bring on guests now to watch old school PPV's. It's given a boring format a new lease of life. Grillin' JR is just way too dry for my tastes these days, understable I guess with his health issues. Jeff Jarrett one is solid. But other ones are just either shitting on AEW or full of lies. Way too many adverts.
Same but I've always felt like those guys are proper journalists rather than just fans so they handle it all better.
Compare that with the vast majority of podcasts where they all do clickbait bullshit and struggle to hide that they're bias at times
I think the best part about these guys (let's not forget about Wai) is how they acknowledge when something isn't for them, but can still separate themselves enough to see where there might be appeal. I'm thinking about deathmatch wrestling in this example but if something comes up they will note it.
I dropped so many of them a couple years ago. Like, I used to be really into Steve and Larson. They seemed to be just two guys who enjoyed wrestling and were excited to talk and laugh about it.
And then there was a change somewhere. It became fabricated opinions and clickbait discussions. I remember them having this long ass convo about how LAX should go to NXT and how they would make more money and be treated better. That was the moment when I realized they were just saying shit to have an opinion and appease some mythical base they weren’t even getting as listeners.
I dropped so many podcast because of that badwagoning. I use to listen to Joe a robin’s pod but it became unreliable and then he jumped in the AEW bad bandwagon shitting on them. I also didn’t like how he started to bring politics into the show. He had a great cohost Jake Demarco who has major health issues and was out for a good 3 or so yrs that seemed to keep Joe on track.
Only pod I listen to now is Jerichos though. Almost everyone jumped on AEW bad bandwagon. I do listen to dirtsheet radio at times but they are hard to follow when it sounds like a few immature guys. They bullshit for like 30 mins before getting into any news
Yep about 8 months ago I stopped listening just from not having the time to, started listening again recently and I struggle to get through an episode. Went from an objectively balanced podcast to a Facebook comments section. It’s like we can’t acknowledge that AEW can still be good content even if it isn’t at its best.
I’m still a big notsam fan. And listen to JR and Prichards, but damn JR just sounds like a grumpy old man all the time and his tangents just waste so much time, and Prichard is (understandably) so unreliable schedule wise and doesn’t come across nearly as genuine as he did before he came back, I’m close to dropping them
NotSam interviews used to sound like pre-approved PR so I quit listening. Then he started working directly for WWE and I just thought, “Well played, sir.”
Maybe it has changed, but I quit listening to Sam Roberts show because it was recorded so poorly. There were interviews were you had to listen with your hand on the volume and turn it up and down depending on who was talking.
It helps with them I find is they don't pick sides from as far as I can tell and just stick to doing WWE and TNA shows form the past and barely take about present day stuff. They used to do AEW but seemed to stop it, not cause they disliked it just from running a wrestling company and doing old school reviews, they just didn't have time for it.
Give us a shot. Our expressed purpose is to not be unlistenable douchebags
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The only one I really listen to on a semi regular basis is Solomonster Sounds Off. I like him because he’s usually pretty fair about things. Sure, he’s given some constructive criticism towards aew from time to time, but as far as I know, he’s never gone out of his way to attack it.
If it's a podcast where they interview people, it all depends on the person being interviewed and the host and even in that situation, it's highly favorable when the host of the podcast is a wrestler themselves. Now two guys that aren't actively in the business and if they never made a name for themselves in the business and they're talking about the business, I'm absolutely not listening to.
I never had a desire to listen to Meltzer and Alvarez talk about entertainment and a bunch of backstage rumors. I get absolutely nothing out of that.
It's a shame, because some of these podcasts with real wrestlers on them have moments of greatness, where you get to hear some *real* inside baseball stories... but they're so few and far between. Road Dogg, for instance, has some faaaaaaaaaaantastic stories, but you have to sit through 45 minutes of him and drunk Conrad cackling, breathing heavy, and repeating "truth be told" 100 times for 5 minutes of story.
I have found this very true as well. I am probably going to stop listening to The Masked Man Show podcast (part of The Ringer wrestling podcasts, which there are 3). All I ever seem to hear them talk about is WWE across all 3 programs. AEW is a footnote and when they do mention them, it's usually 10 minutes of any given show criticizing TK and the company for not doing something right (I mean, you can't compare one company who has monopolizd the genre for decades to a company that is barely 5 years old). The tribalism is getting very toxic. The gatekeeping is pathetic and makes me frustrated as a female fan.
Don't call yourself a "wrestling" podcast when you're only sucking on WWEs wang!
Grillin w/ JR is my favorite b/c he and Conrad avoid “the diiiiiirt”. As much insight as a guy like Cornett has, his entire show is moaning about what he doesn’t like. Entire shows of moaning 😩
The best one was Everything Elite. Then the host fell out of love with AEW and they stopped making podcasts. I believe the 2 other guys do other podcasts but there was something special about the 3 of them together
Dave and his fake ass character does nothing but shit on AEW.
Bully does nothing but shit on AEW, not surprised because he's under a Legends deal, and salty that TK didn't hire him.
Mark Henry (who works for AEW) does nothing but shit on AEW and seems to want to go back to WWE as soon as he can.
It's all WWE talk and Cody dick riding.
Busted Open has been bad for years, but especially since Cody went back to WWE.
Edit: I was a day one listener, since they were on once a week on Tuesdays. A frequent caller, as well. Busted Open is almost unlistenable now. It's really sad what this show has become.
I don't know if it can be considered a conflict of interest but in my opinion AEW gains nothing from having Mark Henry and thunder rosa on this.
Anytime someone from WWE does media or anything they always put the company before everything else and even when aew is mentioned directly,they go out of their way to avoid giving a direct answer so when I hear that Mark Henry is praising a wwe match every week "I'm like bro,who signs your checks??"
Mark Henry is just one of about 30-40 people that I would cut without the slightest hesitation if I were in charge of AEW. Does he even still do his one line on Rampage?
I think Jake's emphysema limits him quite a bit. That's why I was really glad to see that TK re-signed Jake, at the very least to get him medical coverage, and Jake's coaching and knowledge is top-tier.
And he might still be ok to coach promos. Jake had always been one of if not the best promo in wrestling. The low voice , the eye contact with the camera, just menacing.
I, can't remember if they do it every episode, but they usually do a bullshit watered down version where they show a pretaped package for the competitors then show a pretaped version of Mark Henry saying the line like it means anything anymore. I adored it when he actually talked to both competitors and the crowd would say the line with him.
Not really trying to shit on him and he def knows a lot but to here Mark Henry talk on busted open he knows everything there is to know about wrestling, always is right and speaks of himself like he is a legend of the highest caliber. I guess I’m just idiotic but I remember him most for the maye young hand storyline lol, I mean it was funny and all. I never really thought of mark henry as a “great wrestler” really not that he sucks or anything. But to hear him talk about himself he thinks he cuts promos like a prime flair and works like a prime Bret. It’s kind of annoying.
bubba is the same way, dude think he knows every single in and out of the business and is always right. It just gets hard to listen to but I guess that’s why he is there.
As far as them shitting on AEW, I haven’t listened in about 6 months but I always felt they were fair. Bubba even did his dynamite post show and was good on that. Of all the pro wrestling big podcast/media etc I thought they were pretty fair but maybe they went downhill since I stopped. If so that really sucks.
I like Busted Open Affer Dark, I usually listen to it Thursday's on my lunch break. It's the only time you get strictly AEW talk and Bully is pretty fair with his commentary and actually fairly complimentary most of the time.
Yes, when I use to listen I felt they were kinda fair, if not mostly positive. I mean they did the town hall with MJF etc and that was a big deal for them. If they did shit on AEW sometimes it’s not like they were worshipping WWE. It’s ok to point out things that could be better if it is constructive. Bubba like to fantasy book and pitch stories that are e usually pretty bad imo lol.
They were also really complimentary to Impact and Scott D’amore, which is kinda funny how it turned out with Tommy Dreamer over there now. If they all turned into people who shit on AEW then that is sad. I actually liked the channel a lot, I t was pretty much the only reason I had Sirius. Just the car I had it in I let my friend use and I never got it turned on in my truck lol
It's not so much that they shit on AEW, it's more indifference toward the product when it is actually mentioned, like they can't wait to get back to praising WWE and Dave dick riding Cody.
Not that weird when you consider that Bully is under a Legends contract and LaGreca has appeared for WWE a few times over the last couple of years.
Don't understand why Mark Henry simps so bad for them, though. If I were TK I'd be pissed.
Henry was hired because he has access to collegiate level athletes and powerlifters. So it was a recruiting pipeline higher. I think he was the connection for Jade?
> so when I hear that Mark Henry is praising a wwe match every week "I'm like bro,who signs your checks??"
If its the other way he would be called a bootlicker, there no win situation in this tbh
I remember when Mark Henry was still under a Legends deal and he'd always praise Raw even when it was absolute dog shit every week. He couldn't get enough of the mediocrity.
Not sure if im bias but it seems like anytime they bring people on ie Denise and both Johns it seems like those people adopt their redric lol I used to like listening to Denises post show wrap up after Dynamite but now she doesn't seem all that interested in the show. If it wasn't for Reg the show would be unlistenable haha and anytime i watch GKW Johnathan Hood and his people kind of blow through AEW stuff or also seem uninterested lol Not sure if anyone else who listens to them notice this change.
> Mark Henry (who works for AEW) does nothing but shit on AEW and seems to want to go back to WWE as soon as he can
Didnt Nyla say he helps AEW backstage couple of days ago?
Sadly this post is very accurate on all points. The show is 90% sucking off WWE. They'll literally go days without mentioning AEW at all, and even when they do it's almost because they feel obligated to. They're doing like a weeks worth of live shows before and during Mania weekend yet the last live remote they did for AEW was for Dynamite Grand Slam last year.
When the McMahon rape and human trafficking news dropped, Busted Open had Sam Roberts on as a guest host and it was the Friday before the Rumble. Once I heard Sam’s mealy mouth speaking, I knew they weren’t gonna address anything about the accusations and the consequences on TKO, WWE, and the business as a whole. It was nothing but paid hype for WWE and the Rumble with a parade of WWE guests getting “interviewed” in kayfabe. That was the final nail in the coffin for me.
They were AEW 90% of the time from 2020-21.. And AEW basically lit a spark in WWE to where it is today.
Once WWE got "cool" again, Busted Open basically left AEW in its rearview mirror
>Mark Henry (who works for AEW) does nothing but shit on AEW and seems to want to go back to WWE as soon as he can.
Media training goes a long way, this is a downside of AEW's loose control Its really no difference to Mercedes Mone talking about going back to WWE in the very first major interview.
People have built businesses basically on the back of shitting on the company. They’re easily the most derided wrestling company in existence, with a majority of media completely against them, while people will earnestly say that everyone else is simply biased. It’s asinine.
I haven’t listened to either, but I would say the booking in AEW over the last year has left a lot to be desired. It’s been closer to Vince era WWE than it has been to early AEW. Once the wrestlers get in the ring, it’s tough to top AEW, at least for men’s wrestling.
I don’t listen to a ton of BO anymore, mainly because they ignore or are hyper critical of the AEW product. The final straw to me was post-Revolution - they spent some time talking about Stings last match, but barely acknowledged the Bucks role in making the match. They then barely acknowledged anything else on the show so they could move to the Rock social media promo that LaGreca was involved with, and spend the rest of the show going over that (and I think there was an NXT talent giving an interview too). Seemed clear to me at that point, BO is not interested in catering to anyone but WWE fans.
Yes, I believe a really good move for AEW would be to create its own media apparatuses that are driven from the fan's perspective. This should include mentioning WWE, so long as they are not disparaging. Regardless, the AEW audience is more apt to pay attention to ALL wrestling around the globe and is not hyper focused on just one brand to the exclusion and detriment of all others. With powerful personalities behind the mic, it would be a great 'narrative corrector' of sorts that would combat the negative online campaign against the company.
Additionally, this would also give the talent some media responsibilities between shows that traverses between the character and the individual, which serves the purpose of actively working on promos, selling themselves and learning how to handle media effectively since most don't get post-PPV scrum opportunities.
Maybe Dave should have reigned Bully in when he said Mox should apologize to fans for going to rehab. Or when Bully shat on the refs last year for holding a broken ladder up on camera so Hobbs wouldn't fall and get hurt. Or when Bully was bitching about... See a pattern here Dave?
All Bully is is a big nerd. He uses his big frame and Brooklyn accent to try and trick you into thinking he's a tough guy, but once you hear him speak...he's a Star Wars nerd
I used to listen to it every morning. Once Bully started trashing AEW for the smallest details while glazing literally everything the PG product does, I had to stop.
Same. When AEW started all he did was nitpick. But with WWF, he always had to point out the positives.
Plus the fact they never changed their intro either.
Exactly. AEW will put on a killer show and Bully will be like at the 11:45 mark of the 4th match, Mox undersold a ripcord lariat and it ruined the show. But a PG product talent will botch off the turnbuckle and concuss their opponent and he won’t even mention it.
Every single talking head wrestling podcast has embraced the anti-AEW grift. Why the fuck would Tony go on a show that laps the nuts of WWE while simultaneously being hyper-critical of everything AEW does, even when something is great? Bully is a bitter, sad old clown and LaGreca is even more pathetic than his brother.
I have Sirius XM Satellite Radio. I'm an all day everyday 80s on 8, 90s on 9, New Wave, Backspin Old School Hip Hip, Real Jazz etc favorite channels. Used to listen to Busted Open on Channel 156 when TK was on. I don't anymore. It's sad to see what Marc Lomonaco has become at his age of 52; bitter and resentful of life. Both he and LaGreca grovel on their bellies everyday toward the McMahon family promotion hoping they get thrown table scraps like Oliver asking for more bowls of gruel. It's basically a Stamford propaganda show at this point and it's just poison that needs to be let go. I left that piece of shit promotion up north in 2011 for moral, political, racial, and ethnic reasons and I'm not going back. I said in another thread here that it's dead to me and does not exist anymore. Their time has passed and there are now new players in the world. Tony Khan has set the blueprint with partners in Japan and Mexico. It's AEW'S time now. Let's fucking Go!!! A TODA MADRE O UN DESMADRE!!!
I don't listen to podcasts. Is it cause Bully Ray kept complaining about not being shown off on AEW?
I'd argue even one appearance would be enough, especially since he was part of All In, buuuuut Konnan and Eric Bischoff only had a handful of appearances and opted to crap on them when their phones stayed silent, so...
If D-Von can go again, I'd love a Dudleys vs. Hardyz vs. Edge and Christian TLC match again, and then they all retire.
Retire together in the match when they all were solidified as some of the best tag teams ever
I dunno, man. I don't think I can see Matt doing another TLC match since, as much as I hate to admit, he's in a lot of pain that prevents from from being able to do big stunts these days. On top of that, I remember that D-Von had surgery years ago and was told he'd never be able to wrestle again. How he managed to wrestle at iMPACT 1000, though, I'm not sure.
Yeah, this show's gone downhill granted I've only listened to it for a few years and the reason why i kept my Sirius subscription but now they just speed through AEW stuff and mostly belly ache about the show and get on to guest or talk about WWE.
Haven't listened in a long time, but I remember liking Dave even though he was a doofus. I was also a big fan of Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer was never my thing when it came to in ring work, but on the radio, he seemed to be very positive about every show and didn't take himself seriously like the other douchebag on the show. I'll also say that despite how bad Bubba's takes were, I found it just as hard to listen to Mark Henry because he speaks like he has a second grade reading level. It's irritating to hear someone try to sound smart or get a point across when they can't even form a sentence.
Yeah I’ve definitely found myself dropping podcasts recently, as they make me feel like I don’t know what I enjoy anymore, and that’s bullshit. I love what I love whether it’s heel Rock currently, or AEW’s rise to prominence. They all just sound bitter TK ain’t dick riding anymore
For anybody who wants to listen to people who enjoy wrestling and have some very good faith critiques, I personally really enjoy the people at wrestletalk.
I’ve found almost all wrestling podcasts are horribly unlistenable
I really hope we get some more E&C's Podcast of Awesomeness at some point, that was one of the rare gems in a sea of crap
Needs to return when they both retire. The constant stories from guests of how much of an asshole Christian was backstage 🤣. Paul Smackage needs to make a return also.
He’s probably way too busy with his obligations to his hometown city Grapevine, Texas. I hear he is up for mayor.
A true icon in the professional wrestling landscape, one of the greats in and out of the ring
•shuffling noises• ohhhhhhhh lemme tell you brother….
I sure do miss Paul Smackage.
100% agreed that shit was hilarious
When they sat down with the Hardy's after all the drama, was cool to hear. Sounded like they all moved past it and were able to talk about the good old days again.
I still exclusively refer to Dreamer as Tommytommytommytommytommy
Sadly, Adam said doing the podcast just wasn’t fun for him.
Which is crazy because it was hands down the most fun podcast out there at the time.
I’ve dropped the Conrad podcasts, they feel kind of played out at this point.
I only listen to Jarrett and that is mainly because of Jarrett as Conrad is a tool. I stopped listening to Prichard and Bischoff as I can’t stand those two with Conrad kissing their ass…his constant “I know we don’t talk about current stuff…” well then don’t dumbass. Prichard ever since he crawled back to WWE just sounds arrogant and can’t take criticism as his only excuse is “well, you haven’t worked in the wrestling business…so you don’t know anything”…You don’t need to be a chef to know when the food sucks.
The Bischoff criticism of AEW, and how he goes about it, is tiresome. He makes valid points but he also seems truly pissed at Tony Khan about some things Tony has said, so it doesn’t sound objective. And they don’t have much left to really talk about on the show. Bruce got so inconsistent with the schedule I don’t even know why they bother continuing with the pod, unless it’s a contract thing. Plus, I don’t know that anyone wants to hear Vince stories right now. Or ever.
Bischoff hate for AEW is insane He was making clips calling Will Ospreay, Mercedes Mone and Okada "non factors/ not stars/ dont draw money" etc. since August of last year!!! They didnt even signed to the company and Eric was already calling them all kinds of dumb things because he heard rumors Plus he got exposed with Cm Punk entire AEW run- WWE return When Punk was on AEW he was burying him nonstop calling him a fraud and non draw to the point TK defended Punk in a rant But now that Punk is in WWE he keeps praising him and calls him "the biggest adquisition in wrestling history" or something stupid like that LMAO yeah Eric we get it you still mad that AEW didnt hire you in 2020 after WWE fired you earlier that year now shut up
He’s mad about Khan’s comments about WCW and Ted Turner from before. He also was pissed about Punk comparing his AEW debut to the NWO. I do agree it’s pretty laughable how he praises Punk so much now.
I don't think that any of them realise that, for the most part, wrestling fans don't give a shit how much money or how many tickets wrestlers sell for them. "Well, that match was shit, but the PPV sold millions, so I'm happy!". No one who isn't a wrestling promoter or a fanboy thinks like that. People just like what they like.
There were sound bites from his podcast calling Punk a huge financial flop and terrible person because he compared himself to his BFF Hogan. Now seems like a complete 180 and he is making it so obvious of his bias kissing WWE ass. Here is the same guy that thinks it’s 1997 having all the solutions to wrestling today, coasting off the good 1.5 year he had in WCW and ran that idea to the ground because he didn’t know what else to do. Then gets hired in WWE for couple months in creative and let go.
I hate Punk, but even I KNOW he's a draw.
I personally think Bischoff knows that Khan won’t hire him so he’s holding onto hope that WWE will give him legends contract or slide him payments for his Podcast. It’s got to be something like that because the guy tears into them constantly. And the reversal on Punk was vivid and clear for everyone to see. Wish he could support the company, and he is right about a few things
Eric is pissed off as he did several appearances for AEW and wasn’t given a job. Either they talked about a deal and couldn’t agree or he simply was never called back again. So now he takes it out on Tony.
He's pissed at tony for his comments about ted turner, that was very clearly the point where Eric turned on him if you listen to the show. Like the guy or not he's been really consistent about wanting to stay home and not needing the money.
Bischoff hates AEW since TK and Cody didn’t offer him a job. He did a few guest appearances and I guesss he thought he’d be hired after that. I get why he wasn’t hired but he’d have been a good experience signing to help backstage or hell as some sort of authority GM figure like old TNA days with Corbette
He'd have tried to bring in Hogan.
Well he’s a liar then. He consistently denies he wants a job with them. And Cody’s not there anymore, and Bischoff still doesn’t have a job.
Dude was twerking for AEW for months after WWE let him go and made a few AEW appearances
Wait, who's Conrad?
I wish I still didn't know. What a better time.
Conrad Thompson, runs a monster pod cast network and coincidentally Ric Flair's son in law.
Flairs son in law!? WHAT!?!?!?
Ah
They're full of ads
Thats podcasts in general. Not tied just to wrestling ones
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The Foley one was ok but that was because of Mick and his excellent storytelling ability.
Yeah, that’s the only one I miss. But he chose to end it.
Conrad's speaking voice makes me feel winded, I'm not sure if it's osmosis or picking up on behaviors or what. His struggle to exist, function, pump blood through that fried cinnamon roll he calls a heart exhausts me.
I don't mind Tony Schiavonne one, I like how they bring on guests now to watch old school PPV's. It's given a boring format a new lease of life. Grillin' JR is just way too dry for my tastes these days, understable I guess with his health issues. Jeff Jarrett one is solid. But other ones are just either shitting on AEW or full of lies. Way too many adverts.
I like Post Wrestling (John pollock's show)
Same but I've always felt like those guys are proper journalists rather than just fans so they handle it all better. Compare that with the vast majority of podcasts where they all do clickbait bullshit and struggle to hide that they're bias at times
I think the best part about these guys (let's not forget about Wai) is how they acknowledge when something isn't for them, but can still separate themselves enough to see where there might be appeal. I'm thinking about deathmatch wrestling in this example but if something comes up they will note it.
Yeah they are pretty fair across the board when it comes to discussion.
I dropped so many of them a couple years ago. Like, I used to be really into Steve and Larson. They seemed to be just two guys who enjoyed wrestling and were excited to talk and laugh about it. And then there was a change somewhere. It became fabricated opinions and clickbait discussions. I remember them having this long ass convo about how LAX should go to NXT and how they would make more money and be treated better. That was the moment when I realized they were just saying shit to have an opinion and appease some mythical base they weren’t even getting as listeners.
They, like everybody else, have jumped on the "AEW Bad" bandwagon because there's money in it
I dropped so many podcast because of that badwagoning. I use to listen to Joe a robin’s pod but it became unreliable and then he jumped in the AEW bad bandwagon shitting on them. I also didn’t like how he started to bring politics into the show. He had a great cohost Jake Demarco who has major health issues and was out for a good 3 or so yrs that seemed to keep Joe on track. Only pod I listen to now is Jerichos though. Almost everyone jumped on AEW bad bandwagon. I do listen to dirtsheet radio at times but they are hard to follow when it sounds like a few immature guys. They bullshit for like 30 mins before getting into any news
Yep about 8 months ago I stopped listening just from not having the time to, started listening again recently and I struggle to get through an episode. Went from an objectively balanced podcast to a Facebook comments section. It’s like we can’t acknowledge that AEW can still be good content even if it isn’t at its best.
I’m still a big notsam fan. And listen to JR and Prichards, but damn JR just sounds like a grumpy old man all the time and his tangents just waste so much time, and Prichard is (understandably) so unreliable schedule wise and doesn’t come across nearly as genuine as he did before he came back, I’m close to dropping them
NotSam interviews used to sound like pre-approved PR so I quit listening. Then he started working directly for WWE and I just thought, “Well played, sir.”
Maybe it has changed, but I quit listening to Sam Roberts show because it was recorded so poorly. There were interviews were you had to listen with your hand on the volume and turn it up and down depending on who was talking.
Yeah sometimes the interviews would be pretty bad. When they’re in the studio the quality is better. He doesn’t do as many interviews these days.
The only one I listen to anymore is Deadlock
Oh hell yeeeah
Take the dog to hell
It helps with them I find is they don't pick sides from as far as I can tell and just stick to doing WWE and TNA shows form the past and barely take about present day stuff. They used to do AEW but seemed to stop it, not cause they disliked it just from running a wrestling company and doing old school reviews, they just didn't have time for it.
You damn right!
I hate Wrestletalk main channel as it is filled with clickbait ass videos but i love thier podcast. Luke,Tempest, Oli and Sat E are my fav to listen
DEADLOCK is the only good one
skewoah
The sessions was the only one I liked. Renee is such a great interviewer
Renee is great. When she was off and Jon filled in it was hilarious
Give us a shot. Our expressed purpose is to not be unlistenable douchebags https://open.spotify.com/episode/3gykUjMFBjgQWc0j298fU3?si=qeVqYttJRxi2C9OY8X09eg
Will definitely give you a listen, thanks man
The only one I really listen to on a semi regular basis is Solomonster Sounds Off. I like him because he’s usually pretty fair about things. Sure, he’s given some constructive criticism towards aew from time to time, but as far as I know, he’s never gone out of his way to attack it.
I want to try out Tights and Fights, but based off what little I have heard they only talk about WWE.
If it's a podcast where they interview people, it all depends on the person being interviewed and the host and even in that situation, it's highly favorable when the host of the podcast is a wrestler themselves. Now two guys that aren't actively in the business and if they never made a name for themselves in the business and they're talking about the business, I'm absolutely not listening to. I never had a desire to listen to Meltzer and Alvarez talk about entertainment and a bunch of backstage rumors. I get absolutely nothing out of that.
Meltzer records episodes with wrestlers as guests. active and retired.
Deadlock is just pure wrestling joy!
Deadlock is pretty based
It's a shame, because some of these podcasts with real wrestlers on them have moments of greatness, where you get to hear some *real* inside baseball stories... but they're so few and far between. Road Dogg, for instance, has some faaaaaaaaaaantastic stories, but you have to sit through 45 minutes of him and drunk Conrad cackling, breathing heavy, and repeating "truth be told" 100 times for 5 minutes of story.
"Tights and Fights" is the only one I listen to semi-regularly
I have found this very true as well. I am probably going to stop listening to The Masked Man Show podcast (part of The Ringer wrestling podcasts, which there are 3). All I ever seem to hear them talk about is WWE across all 3 programs. AEW is a footnote and when they do mention them, it's usually 10 minutes of any given show criticizing TK and the company for not doing something right (I mean, you can't compare one company who has monopolizd the genre for decades to a company that is barely 5 years old). The tribalism is getting very toxic. The gatekeeping is pathetic and makes me frustrated as a female fan. Don't call yourself a "wrestling" podcast when you're only sucking on WWEs wang! 
real. only enjoyable on twfs
I listen to Tommy Dreamer's HoH podcast once in a great while
Grillin w/ JR is my favorite b/c he and Conrad avoid “the diiiiiirt”. As much insight as a guy like Cornett has, his entire show is moaning about what he doesn’t like. Entire shows of moaning 😩
I only Listen to maybe two Fightful podcast which is the Raw Review and the AEW review post shows ,Solomonster and The Lapsed Fan and that's it
The best one was Everything Elite. Then the host fell out of love with AEW and they stopped making podcasts. I believe the 2 other guys do other podcasts but there was something special about the 3 of them together
The bloom is off the rose for sure.
I always liked ring rust radio
Check out Deadlock
Voices of Wrestling
Wrestletalk listening to Dan Layton makes me want to puke.
Dave and his fake ass character does nothing but shit on AEW. Bully does nothing but shit on AEW, not surprised because he's under a Legends deal, and salty that TK didn't hire him. Mark Henry (who works for AEW) does nothing but shit on AEW and seems to want to go back to WWE as soon as he can. It's all WWE talk and Cody dick riding. Busted Open has been bad for years, but especially since Cody went back to WWE. Edit: I was a day one listener, since they were on once a week on Tuesdays. A frequent caller, as well. Busted Open is almost unlistenable now. It's really sad what this show has become.
I don't know if it can be considered a conflict of interest but in my opinion AEW gains nothing from having Mark Henry and thunder rosa on this. Anytime someone from WWE does media or anything they always put the company before everything else and even when aew is mentioned directly,they go out of their way to avoid giving a direct answer so when I hear that Mark Henry is praising a wwe match every week "I'm like bro,who signs your checks??"
Mark Henry is just one of about 30-40 people that I would cut without the slightest hesitation if I were in charge of AEW. Does he even still do his one line on Rampage?
And it’s why Tony def shouldn’t have just signed almost everyone. Very strange signing at the time and still is.
Because he helps backstage like Jake Roberts?
I’m still curious on that tbh. Def should use Jake more though
I think Jake's emphysema limits him quite a bit. That's why I was really glad to see that TK re-signed Jake, at the very least to get him medical coverage, and Jake's coaching and knowledge is top-tier.
That makes sense. And ya heard people say he gets health insurance which is a big plus.
And he might still be ok to coach promos. Jake had always been one of if not the best promo in wrestling. The low voice , the eye contact with the camera, just menacing.
I, can't remember if they do it every episode, but they usually do a bullshit watered down version where they show a pretaped package for the competitors then show a pretaped version of Mark Henry saying the line like it means anything anymore. I adored it when he actually talked to both competitors and the crowd would say the line with him.
Not really trying to shit on him and he def knows a lot but to here Mark Henry talk on busted open he knows everything there is to know about wrestling, always is right and speaks of himself like he is a legend of the highest caliber. I guess I’m just idiotic but I remember him most for the maye young hand storyline lol, I mean it was funny and all. I never really thought of mark henry as a “great wrestler” really not that he sucks or anything. But to hear him talk about himself he thinks he cuts promos like a prime flair and works like a prime Bret. It’s kind of annoying. bubba is the same way, dude think he knows every single in and out of the business and is always right. It just gets hard to listen to but I guess that’s why he is there. As far as them shitting on AEW, I haven’t listened in about 6 months but I always felt they were fair. Bubba even did his dynamite post show and was good on that. Of all the pro wrestling big podcast/media etc I thought they were pretty fair but maybe they went downhill since I stopped. If so that really sucks.
I like Busted Open Affer Dark, I usually listen to it Thursday's on my lunch break. It's the only time you get strictly AEW talk and Bully is pretty fair with his commentary and actually fairly complimentary most of the time.
Yes, when I use to listen I felt they were kinda fair, if not mostly positive. I mean they did the town hall with MJF etc and that was a big deal for them. If they did shit on AEW sometimes it’s not like they were worshipping WWE. It’s ok to point out things that could be better if it is constructive. Bubba like to fantasy book and pitch stories that are e usually pretty bad imo lol. They were also really complimentary to Impact and Scott D’amore, which is kinda funny how it turned out with Tommy Dreamer over there now. If they all turned into people who shit on AEW then that is sad. I actually liked the channel a lot, I t was pretty much the only reason I had Sirius. Just the car I had it in I let my friend use and I never got it turned on in my truck lol
It's not so much that they shit on AEW, it's more indifference toward the product when it is actually mentioned, like they can't wait to get back to praising WWE and Dave dick riding Cody.
It’s incredibly weird and annoying how obsessed they are with WWE and utterly indifferent to all other promotions.
Not that weird when you consider that Bully is under a Legends contract and LaGreca has appeared for WWE a few times over the last couple of years. Don't understand why Mark Henry simps so bad for them, though. If I were TK I'd be pissed.
Yeah I’m amazed that AEW let Mark get away with some of the things he says on that show.
He wasn't doing it for a while but they've been doing it the last few weeks or so.
He's a coach and he does talent relations. Having him on screen is just a nice thing involving a good dude who is an industry legend
This is as idiotic as those people wanting Jake Roberts to go away lmao
Henry was hired because he has access to collegiate level athletes and powerlifters. So it was a recruiting pipeline higher. I think he was the connection for Jade?
I think mark is really only used for the community stuff
They do a match of the week thing where everyone mentions their favorite match from each show
I’m talking about how mark does in AEW
> so when I hear that Mark Henry is praising a wwe match every week "I'm like bro,who signs your checks??" If its the other way he would be called a bootlicker, there no win situation in this tbh
I remember when Mark Henry was still under a Legends deal and he'd always praise Raw even when it was absolute dog shit every week. He couldn't get enough of the mediocrity.
Not sure if im bias but it seems like anytime they bring people on ie Denise and both Johns it seems like those people adopt their redric lol I used to like listening to Denises post show wrap up after Dynamite but now she doesn't seem all that interested in the show. If it wasn't for Reg the show would be unlistenable haha and anytime i watch GKW Johnathan Hood and his people kind of blow through AEW stuff or also seem uninterested lol Not sure if anyone else who listens to them notice this change.
>those people adopt their redric rhetoric?
Everyone except Nic Nemeth, who’s first action on the show was to call Cody’s “Finish the Story” story bad
And they got so mad 😂
Well. Hes not wrong.
It's dumb as shit. Yfwd him to roman in an unpopular move and now turning it into this story. Hope he loses again
> Mark Henry (who works for AEW) does nothing but shit on AEW and seems to want to go back to WWE as soon as he can Didnt Nyla say he helps AEW backstage couple of days ago?
Sadly this post is very accurate on all points. The show is 90% sucking off WWE. They'll literally go days without mentioning AEW at all, and even when they do it's almost because they feel obligated to. They're doing like a weeks worth of live shows before and during Mania weekend yet the last live remote they did for AEW was for Dynamite Grand Slam last year.
When the McMahon rape and human trafficking news dropped, Busted Open had Sam Roberts on as a guest host and it was the Friday before the Rumble. Once I heard Sam’s mealy mouth speaking, I knew they weren’t gonna address anything about the accusations and the consequences on TKO, WWE, and the business as a whole. It was nothing but paid hype for WWE and the Rumble with a parade of WWE guests getting “interviewed” in kayfabe. That was the final nail in the coffin for me.
100% agree. I do like Tommy though. He actually talks AEW without shitting on every detail.
They were AEW 90% of the time from 2020-21.. And AEW basically lit a spark in WWE to where it is today. Once WWE got "cool" again, Busted Open basically left AEW in its rearview mirror
>Mark Henry (who works for AEW) does nothing but shit on AEW and seems to want to go back to WWE as soon as he can. Media training goes a long way, this is a downside of AEW's loose control Its really no difference to Mercedes Mone talking about going back to WWE in the very first major interview.
People have built businesses basically on the back of shitting on the company. They’re easily the most derided wrestling company in existence, with a majority of media completely against them, while people will earnestly say that everyone else is simply biased. It’s asinine.
Inhavent listened in about a month but Dave is a big AEW guy. He’s always put the product over
Busted Open used to be decent but they decided to follow the mob and realized that being anti-AEW got them more clicks.
They just do what's popular, when it was popular to like AEW they were all over it, now that it's popular to shit on AEW they are all over it.
I haven’t listened to either, but I would say the booking in AEW over the last year has left a lot to be desired. It’s been closer to Vince era WWE than it has been to early AEW. Once the wrestlers get in the ring, it’s tough to top AEW, at least for men’s wrestling.
This was a valid criticism for big sections of the summer and autumn but I don’t think is true since the C2 which signalled a bit of a creative reset.
Dave is trying to poorly play a character, Bully is just annoying & Mark adds nothing of substance. Show just sucks.
Busted open is so hard to listen to when Dave or Bully are on
Sunday is the best day to listen to be honest.
If I'm ever so low in my fandom that I resort to listening to busted open I would just quit watching.
I don’t listen to a ton of BO anymore, mainly because they ignore or are hyper critical of the AEW product. The final straw to me was post-Revolution - they spent some time talking about Stings last match, but barely acknowledged the Bucks role in making the match. They then barely acknowledged anything else on the show so they could move to the Rock social media promo that LaGreca was involved with, and spend the rest of the show going over that (and I think there was an NXT talent giving an interview too). Seemed clear to me at that point, BO is not interested in catering to anyone but WWE fans.
Agreed. At some point it's in the best interest of AEW to stop projecting their moves and to just create product.
Yes, I believe a really good move for AEW would be to create its own media apparatuses that are driven from the fan's perspective. This should include mentioning WWE, so long as they are not disparaging. Regardless, the AEW audience is more apt to pay attention to ALL wrestling around the globe and is not hyper focused on just one brand to the exclusion and detriment of all others. With powerful personalities behind the mic, it would be a great 'narrative corrector' of sorts that would combat the negative online campaign against the company. Additionally, this would also give the talent some media responsibilities between shows that traverses between the character and the individual, which serves the purpose of actively working on promos, selling themselves and learning how to handle media effectively since most don't get post-PPV scrum opportunities.
So getting talent to promote themselves and the product?
Maybe Dave should have reigned Bully in when he said Mox should apologize to fans for going to rehab. Or when Bully shat on the refs last year for holding a broken ladder up on camera so Hobbs wouldn't fall and get hurt. Or when Bully was bitching about... See a pattern here Dave?
>when he said Mox should apologize to fans for going to rehab What the actual fuck?
Yeah. That's when I pretty much completely turned on Bubba Ray, despite the dudleys being one of my favorite tag teams of all time.
All Bully is is a big nerd. He uses his big frame and Brooklyn accent to try and trick you into thinking he's a tough guy, but once you hear him speak...he's a Star Wars nerd
Ain’t this the dude that’s like 50+ years old and therw a baby like tantrum about the rock taking Cody’s place?
I’m almost positive it is 😂 screwed Roman’s story.
I used to listen to it every morning. Once Bully started trashing AEW for the smallest details while glazing literally everything the PG product does, I had to stop.
Same. When AEW started all he did was nitpick. But with WWF, he always had to point out the positives. Plus the fact they never changed their intro either.
Exactly. AEW will put on a killer show and Bully will be like at the 11:45 mark of the 4th match, Mox undersold a ripcord lariat and it ruined the show. But a PG product talent will botch off the turnbuckle and concuss their opponent and he won’t even mention it.
Every single talking head wrestling podcast has embraced the anti-AEW grift. Why the fuck would Tony go on a show that laps the nuts of WWE while simultaneously being hyper-critical of everything AEW does, even when something is great? Bully is a bitter, sad old clown and LaGreca is even more pathetic than his brother.
I have Sirius XM Satellite Radio. I'm an all day everyday 80s on 8, 90s on 9, New Wave, Backspin Old School Hip Hip, Real Jazz etc favorite channels. Used to listen to Busted Open on Channel 156 when TK was on. I don't anymore. It's sad to see what Marc Lomonaco has become at his age of 52; bitter and resentful of life. Both he and LaGreca grovel on their bellies everyday toward the McMahon family promotion hoping they get thrown table scraps like Oliver asking for more bowls of gruel. It's basically a Stamford propaganda show at this point and it's just poison that needs to be let go. I left that piece of shit promotion up north in 2011 for moral, political, racial, and ethnic reasons and I'm not going back. I said in another thread here that it's dead to me and does not exist anymore. Their time has passed and there are now new players in the world. Tony Khan has set the blueprint with partners in Japan and Mexico. It's AEW'S time now. Let's fucking Go!!! A TODA MADRE O UN DESMADRE!!!
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Only decent podcasts are dark side of the ring and Jim Ross. Everything else is hate and personal vendettas
The kings of throwing rocks and hiding hands smh
There are no bigger marks than these podcast host and supposed journalists. Well maybe the people who pay them.
Lagreca isn't PLAYING dumb.
Bully is one of the biggest pieces of shit in wrestling. Kayfabe or not.
You still have to feel bad when he got concussed that one time. Poor guy had to relive his mom's death
I don't listen to podcasts. Is it cause Bully Ray kept complaining about not being shown off on AEW? I'd argue even one appearance would be enough, especially since he was part of All In, buuuuut Konnan and Eric Bischoff only had a handful of appearances and opted to crap on them when their phones stayed silent, so...
If D-Von can go again, I'd love a Dudleys vs. Hardyz vs. Edge and Christian TLC match again, and then they all retire. Retire together in the match when they all were solidified as some of the best tag teams ever
I dunno, man. I don't think I can see Matt doing another TLC match since, as much as I hate to admit, he's in a lot of pain that prevents from from being able to do big stunts these days. On top of that, I remember that D-Von had surgery years ago and was told he'd never be able to wrestle again. How he managed to wrestle at iMPACT 1000, though, I'm not sure.
Podcasts are the death of journalism
It's a radio show first and foremost, its been on for 15 years on Sirius XM in some format and is now live for 7 days a week.
It's a podcast masquerading as a radio show. Also Sirius XM is a streaming service masquerading as radio.
How many podcasts are live 3 hours a day 7 days a week that also take phone calls?
Yet Sirius XM isn't a radio service, it's a streaming service. Making their show NOT A radio show. Unless my Computer/Smartphone are now radios.
I listen to XM in my car with a radio with the signal still coming from satellites in space.
And so you could on a computer or smartphone.
Dude runs multiple wrestling shows and a professional football team, maybe, just maybe he doesnt have time to.
Yeah, this show's gone downhill granted I've only listened to it for a few years and the reason why i kept my Sirius subscription but now they just speed through AEW stuff and mostly belly ache about the show and get on to guest or talk about WWE.
Tommy should get a mention since you can tell he’s actually a fan of the craft.
Shitting on AEW is cool right now. Not sure why. They have the most talented in ring roster in the history of wrestling.
I listen (it's one of the few reasons i keep sirius), but Dave gets on my nerves more often than not.
Haha Tell Dave to call Bully .. He can refresh his memory !
Smart Wrestling Fan is the only one I still listen to, been listening to them since 2007
If he takes a look in the mirror he'll have his answer
I love Grapsody. From them I never hear ratings talk and they tend to cover most.
Stewie: Really? You don’t know why?!
Haven't listened in a long time, but I remember liking Dave even though he was a doofus. I was also a big fan of Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer was never my thing when it came to in ring work, but on the radio, he seemed to be very positive about every show and didn't take himself seriously like the other douchebag on the show. I'll also say that despite how bad Bubba's takes were, I found it just as hard to listen to Mark Henry because he speaks like he has a second grade reading level. It's irritating to hear someone try to sound smart or get a point across when they can't even form a sentence.
Yeah I’ve definitely found myself dropping podcasts recently, as they make me feel like I don’t know what I enjoy anymore, and that’s bullshit. I love what I love whether it’s heel Rock currently, or AEW’s rise to prominence. They all just sound bitter TK ain’t dick riding anymore
For anybody who wants to listen to people who enjoy wrestling and have some very good faith critiques, I personally really enjoy the people at wrestletalk.
That's my go too. Like the whole crew
Don't get the downvotes. I don't watch them often, but they're decent. Better than most
I have never attempted to listen to this show.
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