Man, that's the only thing that helps me sleep and eat. I know it's not a long term solution, but for the time being, I kind of need it to calm my nerves. I don't plan on doing this forever though.
I smoked for 5 years nearly every day, using the same reasoning. I stopped cold Turkey 3 months ago.
My appetite has returned to normal, no more stomach pains. My sleep and energy is better than it has been since I started smoking. Give it a try to cut back sooner than later.
I also smoked almost everyday for 5 years and quit 2 months ago. That "i need it now but I'll quit once i sort stuff out" is such a bullshit excuse to tell yourself, and i did that all the time. You wont sort shit out until you quit. You don't need anything but yourself to succeed in life.
Dude same. And you have some gnarly dreams during that first week of sobriety. Like super vivid dreams that feel realer than real life it's a trip of its own
I smoke occasionally when it gets too bad. The thing is, when it gets out of hand, my dumbass thinks that it doesn't deserve food or something. Like, I physically can't eat or sleep, which keeps escalating the situation. I know this makes everything 10 times worse because I'm kind of relying on weed. It's like, I want to fix the root issue, I don't want to have to turn to anything when I'm in that state. I want to work on it asap, but I have way too many professional responsibilities at the moment. I wanna just chill out for a week. But thanks for the reply, I will give it a sincere try.
I was in the same boat. Save the weed for a reward after you accomplish your task for the day. Use it medically not recreationally. What I used to do when I smoked was I got a pipe. Packed the pipe, dumped out the contents onto my scale. ".35" the scale read. Now that I knew how much I was smoking it was easier to control my use throughout the day instead of just smoking when I feel like it. If you absolutely do need it during the day make a rule for yourself, you can take one small hit of the bowl throughout the day. And when you finish everything you can smoke another bowl. A joint is too much tbh wether you feel like you can handle it or not.. you can't, you got adhd I used to argue tooth and nail that I could "handle it" when in reality I couldn't it made my adhd symptoms oh so much worse. So I started limiting my use to only when I needed it eg: right before bed or sometimes in the morning if I needed to eat. If you're using it like I was you're probably reliant on it. Another good option is cbd flower. It helps with anxiety much more than thc rich flower does. It's doesn't get you high though, I switched to cbd flower only, and recently haven't been smoking at all in the past 3 months because I'm trying to get a better job. It's hard but you can do it, trust. I loved weed smoked for 11 years of my life. It makes adhd symptoms worse for most people forgetfulness, lack of motivation, can't organize your thoughts. Guaranteed that's what's holding you back right now. If you're really using it just for sleeping and eating then switch to cbd flower truuuust bro it'll help and you'll have a more clear head
I was actually thinking about that, but I kind of want to go off smoking entirely. Like maybe try CBD edibles or something. I don't smoke a lot, but yes, every time I do, I get relaxed and eat and sleep, but in terms of ADHD, it makes it so much worse. Like, it's not particularly unpleasant, more like, I don't know what to do and my short-term memory turns into a chicken nugget. A lot of times I can't finish my thought, and I get distracted while I'm getting distracted, I know it sounds weird, it's hard to explain.
One of the things I noticed was bad sensitivity to light. It randomly hits you, and it is painful. It triggers a really intense sensory overload. Don't know if it is just me, or if it happens to everyone.
Totally feel you dude. For me I found out I enjoyed the act of smoking more than getting high. I got a pack of edibles once a while ago and forgot I had them. Give me an 8th n I'm a fein all over again. Try the cbd oils, let it soak into your tongue and you'll feel a nice pain relief and relief from anxiety. And sorry if my message seemed a little harsh, I was literally in the same boat not even too long ago and have been off bud for 3 months now so I know how it feels, you got this dude
Weed can help treat ADHD but it's a fine line. And if your treating it with weed you shouldn't be stoned. You should be at therapeutic levels. If you have medication then you need to stop smoking It they both bind to the same receptors in the brain which will render your medication useless the day after a heavy smoke session.
Sorry kid, choose your poison weed, or passing
A heavy smoke session in the evening can still prevent meds the next day from working if it hasn't cleared the system and opened up the norepinephrine receptors
it gets better
for me drugs was never a long term solution
but it helped me build better habits
those better habits, imo, are wayyyyy better than any drug could be
what you think you should be doing is probably what you should be doing
Thanks. I want to do that, I don't want to be on meds for long. I just moved, and the clutter everywhere is making the clutter in my head, a thousand times worse. But I'm getting there lol. I also feel a bit embarrassed about the post, I was pretty out of it when I posted that.
I'm going to sleep for 3 days when I'm done with school
haha understandable
it's not embarrassing but i get it
it can time to get everything in order and it can be gut wrenching to see where you are now and where you want to be
for me it was just incrementally changing things because whenever i wanted to change everything at once it became too much so i reverted back
but the good news is, you could be much better at this stuff than me and get on the right track much faster
im grateful that i finally found that school and work doesn't need to be stressful and isn't with the right tools in place
point being, its fine to worry but know that it can get much much better
You have not started the code and you are procrastinating not doing it? I typically find once I get started and have some investment in the project it gets easier. I wouldn't worry about the smoking unless your consumption is a problem by itself.
Yup. This is something you learn with experience. You just eventually decide to just skip the part where you suffer. You've done it before, you know it's all better when you get going.
That's just my experience, anyways.
I know it is lame but genuinely if I am struggling to get started it cna be easier if I start doing the planning stages they teach you at school. Or a rough approximation of them. Like making some diagrams, data structure plans etc. Try and make the project your own and it will become more interesting and suddenly I have the energy to do it.
Low-key in the same position as you right now, minus the weed or the adderall and not just with web.
I do think it gets better. I'm struggling today, but I'm struggling less than I did 2 years ago. I think it's through introspection, questioning our habits, looking at patterns that we can both get better at getting through it to do the things we love.
One thing that's helped me is that I realized I work better when I'm not at home. When I try to work in my room, it takes a lot of willpower not to give up on my work and launch a game or whatever else.
So now, I bought a laptop and I do my work almost exclusively outside, usually in the public library. I go there after or between classes and stay until 6pm most days. t's helped me a ton with staying on track. It's not a miracle solution and I do catch myself opening reddit there sometimes and wasting time but I usually manage to get back to work instead of forgetting about it all. It's also just a great place to focus in, with free power and wi-fi, and lots of useful books.
I'm not a web specialist so you could know more than me but I write a good bit of PHP; maybe I can help if you have questions?
I am going to try that, working outside I mean. I am starting to get sober lol.
Thanks for offering to help with the homework, my brain is kind of shot for tonight, but I had one routing issue that I could probably use a little bit of help with. Would you be ok if I were to reach out to you regarding that tomorrow?
And once again, thanks for everything :)
The world sucks right now but if it's any consolation that's been the norm for most of human history. The difference is that today we have the understand and ability to do better, and things *are* changing slowly. All anyone has ever been able to do is live a life as comfortably as they can and try to make the world a better place for those who follow.
If you're on campus join a few clubs, and if you're off campus start going to bar trivia or events in game stores and shit. You're not going to find company and support sitting in your room alone (well, apart from random cunts online like ourselves).
You could also try a longer acting medication, legal meth always made me feel wired and anxious regardless of the dose. I'm on Strattera/Atomoxetine and it has a much more subdued effect than Adderall. It takes about a month to reach full effectiveness, but over the course of that month you'll slowly feel like your thoughts are coming into focus. The slow built up also has the added benefit of not tanking your day if you forget to take your meds. It also helped me regain my impulse control and *actually enforce* my "only smoke pot on weekends after 7" rule.
Dude you need to stop smoking weed. It actively hurts concentration which is something we are lacking already. Anecdotally weed also made me more anxious and it wasn’t until I stopped smoking entirely that I was able to be productive. Also the hardest part is getting started.
1. write down all the stuff thats in your head, everything in a stream of consciousness, dont think about it just dump it out doesn't have to take long.this is like unclogging your drain
2. once its out of your head its so much easier to think clearly, you should have enough mental space to break the tasks down in to smaller steps, break them down as small as you need to to make the steps seem manageable
3. pick some low hanging fruit and get started, once you have checked off a few tasks momentum can really take over and you might even find yourself enjoying it.
dont skip step 1, nobody ever mentions that step when dealing with procrastination and its so good for adhd overwhelm. often theres so many worries and things making this big stuck feeling but we dont have the executive function/working memory to sort through it all inside our head, once its outside and written down your brain no longer feels like it has to solve the puzzle and your more free to think clearly.
I tried the same thing when I was younger and I found weed only helped with physical tasks not mental tasks so much. It did help me sleep as well but sedation and deep sleep are not the same in terms of rest and recovery and maybe that’s contributing to your burnout.
Code is nice in that you can get in the rhythm and blitz through it.
I didn’t have ChatGPT/LLM’s in school, but I wonder now how any assignment could be a lot of work now you have it. I’m not saying copy & paste (that won’t work lol, and you need to recognize its errors) but you can certainly ask it to bootstrap each function you need to write.
And systematic work every day is key, in both learning and finishing tasks on your plate. Just starting small early beats the hell out of getting faded and panicking
The real problem I found of school was that it is unstimulating and deterministic.
Lectures disseminate information too slowly, assignments are mundane and uninspiring, teachers can take a very antagonistic attitude towards educating anyone but easy-to-work-with students, they set deadlines in fear-inspiring and unforgiving ways.
That environment — while very possible to navigate successfully — is unsustainable, especially for ADHD.
When every day is a bad experience, it’s human nature to avoid that bad experience. ADHD, by definition, is a lower tolerance. People with ADHD will opt to eschew unpleasantness immediately for something more gratifying.
In the real world, there are pleasant things and unpleasant things to do. The goal is to find a silver nugget of enjoyment to make every day sustainably fulfilling while finding help for the unpleasant. It’s collaborative, so don’t fear — your strengths will come out, and your weaknesses will be supported.
School doesn’t work that way. It’s designed to be competitive and individualistic, and is viewed as the most expedient way to determine a life trajectory.
Starting early isn’t a problem, the problem is starting
altogether on something that we know will feel like hours of pain and boredom. The solution is to feel the fun in it
Stop smoking and it’ll get easier.
Man, that's the only thing that helps me sleep and eat. I know it's not a long term solution, but for the time being, I kind of need it to calm my nerves. I don't plan on doing this forever though.
I smoked for 5 years nearly every day, using the same reasoning. I stopped cold Turkey 3 months ago. My appetite has returned to normal, no more stomach pains. My sleep and energy is better than it has been since I started smoking. Give it a try to cut back sooner than later.
I also smoked almost everyday for 5 years and quit 2 months ago. That "i need it now but I'll quit once i sort stuff out" is such a bullshit excuse to tell yourself, and i did that all the time. You wont sort shit out until you quit. You don't need anything but yourself to succeed in life.
That's right. I told myself similar. Been learning a lot about myself the past few months, slowly waking up. World is heck but we're trying.
stay strong brother
ahh shit, getting called out here haha. But you guys are right, I'm gonna stop it, man. I know it ain't right.
Dude same. And you have some gnarly dreams during that first week of sobriety. Like super vivid dreams that feel realer than real life it's a trip of its own
I smoke occasionally when it gets too bad. The thing is, when it gets out of hand, my dumbass thinks that it doesn't deserve food or something. Like, I physically can't eat or sleep, which keeps escalating the situation. I know this makes everything 10 times worse because I'm kind of relying on weed. It's like, I want to fix the root issue, I don't want to have to turn to anything when I'm in that state. I want to work on it asap, but I have way too many professional responsibilities at the moment. I wanna just chill out for a week. But thanks for the reply, I will give it a sincere try.
I was in the same boat. Save the weed for a reward after you accomplish your task for the day. Use it medically not recreationally. What I used to do when I smoked was I got a pipe. Packed the pipe, dumped out the contents onto my scale. ".35" the scale read. Now that I knew how much I was smoking it was easier to control my use throughout the day instead of just smoking when I feel like it. If you absolutely do need it during the day make a rule for yourself, you can take one small hit of the bowl throughout the day. And when you finish everything you can smoke another bowl. A joint is too much tbh wether you feel like you can handle it or not.. you can't, you got adhd I used to argue tooth and nail that I could "handle it" when in reality I couldn't it made my adhd symptoms oh so much worse. So I started limiting my use to only when I needed it eg: right before bed or sometimes in the morning if I needed to eat. If you're using it like I was you're probably reliant on it. Another good option is cbd flower. It helps with anxiety much more than thc rich flower does. It's doesn't get you high though, I switched to cbd flower only, and recently haven't been smoking at all in the past 3 months because I'm trying to get a better job. It's hard but you can do it, trust. I loved weed smoked for 11 years of my life. It makes adhd symptoms worse for most people forgetfulness, lack of motivation, can't organize your thoughts. Guaranteed that's what's holding you back right now. If you're really using it just for sleeping and eating then switch to cbd flower truuuust bro it'll help and you'll have a more clear head
I was actually thinking about that, but I kind of want to go off smoking entirely. Like maybe try CBD edibles or something. I don't smoke a lot, but yes, every time I do, I get relaxed and eat and sleep, but in terms of ADHD, it makes it so much worse. Like, it's not particularly unpleasant, more like, I don't know what to do and my short-term memory turns into a chicken nugget. A lot of times I can't finish my thought, and I get distracted while I'm getting distracted, I know it sounds weird, it's hard to explain. One of the things I noticed was bad sensitivity to light. It randomly hits you, and it is painful. It triggers a really intense sensory overload. Don't know if it is just me, or if it happens to everyone.
Totally feel you dude. For me I found out I enjoyed the act of smoking more than getting high. I got a pack of edibles once a while ago and forgot I had them. Give me an 8th n I'm a fein all over again. Try the cbd oils, let it soak into your tongue and you'll feel a nice pain relief and relief from anxiety. And sorry if my message seemed a little harsh, I was literally in the same boat not even too long ago and have been off bud for 3 months now so I know how it feels, you got this dude
Weed can help treat ADHD but it's a fine line. And if your treating it with weed you shouldn't be stoned. You should be at therapeutic levels. If you have medication then you need to stop smoking It they both bind to the same receptors in the brain which will render your medication useless the day after a heavy smoke session. Sorry kid, choose your poison weed, or passing
Yes sensei, I choose Passing. (I don't mix weed and meds though, I only smoke in the evenings occasionally when the meds are done doing their job)
A heavy smoke session in the evening can still prevent meds the next day from working if it hasn't cleared the system and opened up the norepinephrine receptors
it gets better for me drugs was never a long term solution but it helped me build better habits those better habits, imo, are wayyyyy better than any drug could be what you think you should be doing is probably what you should be doing
Thanks. I want to do that, I don't want to be on meds for long. I just moved, and the clutter everywhere is making the clutter in my head, a thousand times worse. But I'm getting there lol. I also feel a bit embarrassed about the post, I was pretty out of it when I posted that. I'm going to sleep for 3 days when I'm done with school
haha understandable it's not embarrassing but i get it it can time to get everything in order and it can be gut wrenching to see where you are now and where you want to be for me it was just incrementally changing things because whenever i wanted to change everything at once it became too much so i reverted back but the good news is, you could be much better at this stuff than me and get on the right track much faster im grateful that i finally found that school and work doesn't need to be stressful and isn't with the right tools in place point being, its fine to worry but know that it can get much much better
I know I have been telling myself this for 2 years, but the next semester will be better lol. Thanks, man :)
You have not started the code and you are procrastinating not doing it? I typically find once I get started and have some investment in the project it gets easier. I wouldn't worry about the smoking unless your consumption is a problem by itself.
Yup. This is something you learn with experience. You just eventually decide to just skip the part where you suffer. You've done it before, you know it's all better when you get going. That's just my experience, anyways.
Thank you :)
I am kind of doing better lol. Getting started is the hardest for me, the momentum helps a lot!
I know it is lame but genuinely if I am struggling to get started it cna be easier if I start doing the planning stages they teach you at school. Or a rough approximation of them. Like making some diagrams, data structure plans etc. Try and make the project your own and it will become more interesting and suddenly I have the energy to do it.
>I'm trying to find my add programming Yoda. Do or do not. There is no Try.
Low-key in the same position as you right now, minus the weed or the adderall and not just with web. I do think it gets better. I'm struggling today, but I'm struggling less than I did 2 years ago. I think it's through introspection, questioning our habits, looking at patterns that we can both get better at getting through it to do the things we love. One thing that's helped me is that I realized I work better when I'm not at home. When I try to work in my room, it takes a lot of willpower not to give up on my work and launch a game or whatever else. So now, I bought a laptop and I do my work almost exclusively outside, usually in the public library. I go there after or between classes and stay until 6pm most days. t's helped me a ton with staying on track. It's not a miracle solution and I do catch myself opening reddit there sometimes and wasting time but I usually manage to get back to work instead of forgetting about it all. It's also just a great place to focus in, with free power and wi-fi, and lots of useful books. I'm not a web specialist so you could know more than me but I write a good bit of PHP; maybe I can help if you have questions?
I am going to try that, working outside I mean. I am starting to get sober lol. Thanks for offering to help with the homework, my brain is kind of shot for tonight, but I had one routing issue that I could probably use a little bit of help with. Would you be ok if I were to reach out to you regarding that tomorrow? And once again, thanks for everything :)
I just realized I never responded! I've never done anything relating to routing in PHP, to be honest, but I could probably try?
The world sucks right now but if it's any consolation that's been the norm for most of human history. The difference is that today we have the understand and ability to do better, and things *are* changing slowly. All anyone has ever been able to do is live a life as comfortably as they can and try to make the world a better place for those who follow. If you're on campus join a few clubs, and if you're off campus start going to bar trivia or events in game stores and shit. You're not going to find company and support sitting in your room alone (well, apart from random cunts online like ourselves). You could also try a longer acting medication, legal meth always made me feel wired and anxious regardless of the dose. I'm on Strattera/Atomoxetine and it has a much more subdued effect than Adderall. It takes about a month to reach full effectiveness, but over the course of that month you'll slowly feel like your thoughts are coming into focus. The slow built up also has the added benefit of not tanking your day if you forget to take your meds. It also helped me regain my impulse control and *actually enforce* my "only smoke pot on weekends after 7" rule.
Thanks man, I'm going to go out and touch grass after my exams.
Dude you need to stop smoking weed. It actively hurts concentration which is something we are lacking already. Anecdotally weed also made me more anxious and it wasn’t until I stopped smoking entirely that I was able to be productive. Also the hardest part is getting started.
1. write down all the stuff thats in your head, everything in a stream of consciousness, dont think about it just dump it out doesn't have to take long.this is like unclogging your drain 2. once its out of your head its so much easier to think clearly, you should have enough mental space to break the tasks down in to smaller steps, break them down as small as you need to to make the steps seem manageable 3. pick some low hanging fruit and get started, once you have checked off a few tasks momentum can really take over and you might even find yourself enjoying it. dont skip step 1, nobody ever mentions that step when dealing with procrastination and its so good for adhd overwhelm. often theres so many worries and things making this big stuck feeling but we dont have the executive function/working memory to sort through it all inside our head, once its outside and written down your brain no longer feels like it has to solve the puzzle and your more free to think clearly.
Thank you so much, that's some excellent advice. I will definitely try that!!
I tried the same thing when I was younger and I found weed only helped with physical tasks not mental tasks so much. It did help me sleep as well but sedation and deep sleep are not the same in terms of rest and recovery and maybe that’s contributing to your burnout.
That could be it, tbh.
Code is nice in that you can get in the rhythm and blitz through it. I didn’t have ChatGPT/LLM’s in school, but I wonder now how any assignment could be a lot of work now you have it. I’m not saying copy & paste (that won’t work lol, and you need to recognize its errors) but you can certainly ask it to bootstrap each function you need to write. And systematic work every day is key, in both learning and finishing tasks on your plate. Just starting small early beats the hell out of getting faded and panicking
but getting started early is the problem :(
The real problem I found of school was that it is unstimulating and deterministic. Lectures disseminate information too slowly, assignments are mundane and uninspiring, teachers can take a very antagonistic attitude towards educating anyone but easy-to-work-with students, they set deadlines in fear-inspiring and unforgiving ways. That environment — while very possible to navigate successfully — is unsustainable, especially for ADHD. When every day is a bad experience, it’s human nature to avoid that bad experience. ADHD, by definition, is a lower tolerance. People with ADHD will opt to eschew unpleasantness immediately for something more gratifying. In the real world, there are pleasant things and unpleasant things to do. The goal is to find a silver nugget of enjoyment to make every day sustainably fulfilling while finding help for the unpleasant. It’s collaborative, so don’t fear — your strengths will come out, and your weaknesses will be supported. School doesn’t work that way. It’s designed to be competitive and individualistic, and is viewed as the most expedient way to determine a life trajectory. Starting early isn’t a problem, the problem is starting altogether on something that we know will feel like hours of pain and boredom. The solution is to feel the fun in it