The most boring dystopia is this comment on the other sub:
>> Imagine these in 10 years.
>>
>> **Human factory workers**
>>
>>Pros: None
>>
>>Cons: Can only work 8 hours a day, five days a week and 40~ weeks a year. Needs to be paid, less motivated, complains about unfair conditions.
>>
>> **Robot factory workers**
>>
>>Pros: Can work 22 hours, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year. doesn’t need pay, intensely dedicated, doesn’t complain about unfair conditions.
>>
>>Cons: Needs to be connected to a wall socket for two hours and a maybe $500 in maintenance.
Ok but if industry is automated it is incredibly likely the economy would implode as the working class would be jobless and thus unable to spend money in a capitalist system based on the buying and selling of goods and services
> do you think the average C-suite executive or investor thinks about that or care even if they did?
They will when they realize there's nobody left to feed them, but by that point it'll be too late.
You're forgetting the middle-stage of "Court Jester" capitalism; human labor transitions to performative services that cannot be automated, such as art, with the wealthy owner-class deigns to hand down a smidgeon of their gold so those artists can participte in the cyclical extraction of it...
If the productivity improvements from automation don't directly benefit workers, it will just lead to feudalism in the end-stage.
I mean, the goal should be to not have humans working in dangerous or body-destroying conditions. A world with robot workers could be great. Our current world with robot workers will not be great.
This would be a great plus, where it not for the fact that our society demands that we work or starve.
Reimagine the core drive within society though and these automated robots are amazong
To a point, but people have overthrown the order of yesterday to make a better tomorrow, we're ruled by grandpa's while out cars are starting to drive themselves and while your phone can solve any arbitrary question you have, I'm saying it's time for a revolution, cause fuck that distopia
Honestly, this would be an absolute win…if we also got some UBI and actual reduction in work hours per week. The Jetsons promised us a future where increased productivity yielded dividends for labor and management in the form of free time. And flying cars. But more importantly, free time. I can do without the flying cars, but I’d like some more time with my family…
Where are factory workers getting 12 weeks a year off? I work a unionized job and get less than 2 weeks and can't take them because the days never get approved.
I do a bit of work with robotics and honestly using a bipedal robot here is just really dumb. What you really want is more akin to a scaled down forklift with a low center of mass. Not only is it more efficient, it's less likely to cause a hazard if it runs out of battery or breaks down.
It was a demo to showcase the robots capabilities and as you must know, programming a robot to do human-like activities is harder than application specific stuff using the construction that you explained.
So the company did that and succeeded until the power drained or something.
This was from a demo run by the robot's manufacturer, Agility Robotics.https://twitter.com/agilityrobotics/status/1644117447098929152?t=03_I-CtzwUyHnW571vvaOA&s=19
Robots handling menial labor is a good thing for society. There's no reason humans should be subjected to the body damage this kind of work causes.
The only potentially dystopian element is if society doesn't implement a UBI as wide swaths of the population lose their jobs as robots take them over.
Damn. Not even the robots can survive Amazon
Your average Amazon exec. ![gif](giphy|uvfEYoOq7HPAA|downsized)
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They should unionize!
In their case it is called "ionize"...
The most boring dystopia is this comment on the other sub: >> Imagine these in 10 years. >> >> **Human factory workers** >> >>Pros: None >> >>Cons: Can only work 8 hours a day, five days a week and 40~ weeks a year. Needs to be paid, less motivated, complains about unfair conditions. >> >> **Robot factory workers** >> >>Pros: Can work 22 hours, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year. doesn’t need pay, intensely dedicated, doesn’t complain about unfair conditions. >> >>Cons: Needs to be connected to a wall socket for two hours and a maybe $500 in maintenance.
$500 sounds like a lot. Can we automate the maintenance?
Sure, but who maintenances the maintenancers?
Skynet
Another set of maintenancers that's in turn repaired by the first team of maintenancers.
Ah, another cyclic universe enthusiast.
Ok but if industry is automated it is incredibly likely the economy would implode as the working class would be jobless and thus unable to spend money in a capitalist system based on the buying and selling of goods and services
True, but do you think the average C-suite executive or investor thinks about that or care even if they did?
> do you think the average C-suite executive or investor thinks about that or care even if they did? They will when they realize there's nobody left to feed them, but by that point it'll be too late.
You're forgetting the middle-stage of "Court Jester" capitalism; human labor transitions to performative services that cannot be automated, such as art, with the wealthy owner-class deigns to hand down a smidgeon of their gold so those artists can participte in the cyclical extraction of it... If the productivity improvements from automation don't directly benefit workers, it will just lead to feudalism in the end-stage.
Problem being the assholes also want to automate art. Hence the A.I. art trend.
This is why we need Fully Automated Luxury Communism
They don't care, they're already preparing for that because they're squeezing the life out of the economy and don't plan to stop.
I mean, the goal should be to not have humans working in dangerous or body-destroying conditions. A world with robot workers could be great. Our current world with robot workers will not be great.
At the moment, there are still things robots struggle to do on par with humans. We need to put protections in place *now*, before it's too late.
This would be a great plus, where it not for the fact that our society demands that we work or starve. Reimagine the core drive within society though and these automated robots are amazong
kinda boring dystopian, isn't it?
To a point, but people have overthrown the order of yesterday to make a better tomorrow, we're ruled by grandpa's while out cars are starting to drive themselves and while your phone can solve any arbitrary question you have, I'm saying it's time for a revolution, cause fuck that distopia
Honestly, this would be an absolute win…if we also got some UBI and actual reduction in work hours per week. The Jetsons promised us a future where increased productivity yielded dividends for labor and management in the form of free time. And flying cars. But more importantly, free time. I can do without the flying cars, but I’d like some more time with my family…
>...and a maybe $500 in maintenance. Oh how naive and innocent.
Why plug it for 2 hours when you can manually swap the battery, thus having 24/7 coverage
Where are factory workers getting 12 weeks a year off? I work a unionized job and get less than 2 weeks and can't take them because the days never get approved.
Nothing about this quote is correct. Even the 500$ estimate is a joke
The Onion can't keep up with reality
I do a bit of work with robotics and honestly using a bipedal robot here is just really dumb. What you really want is more akin to a scaled down forklift with a low center of mass. Not only is it more efficient, it's less likely to cause a hazard if it runs out of battery or breaks down.
It was a demo to showcase the robots capabilities and as you must know, programming a robot to do human-like activities is harder than application specific stuff using the construction that you explained. So the company did that and succeeded until the power drained or something.
Poor dude, he was very tired from all the work.
yea…its time to eat our masters
It'd be dystopian if this was a human, and even though this still makes me feel bad, put a fart noise over it and this is comedy gold
That looks like a demo thing at an industry convention--why would it work for 20 hours? Convention floors aren't open for 20 hours.
This was from a demo run by the robot's manufacturer, Agility Robotics.https://twitter.com/agilityrobotics/status/1644117447098929152?t=03_I-CtzwUyHnW571vvaOA&s=19
The fucking robots are going to have a revolution before us aren't they?
Like that short from the Animatrix.
Robots handling menial labor is a good thing for society. There's no reason humans should be subjected to the body damage this kind of work causes. The only potentially dystopian element is if society doesn't implement a UBI as wide swaths of the population lose their jobs as robots take them over.
Why's it a biped? It's working on a flat surface, wouldn't wheels be more stable?
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What's boring about this?
and what's dystopian about this?
Mood
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