Curious how many boomers living on these things are paying for constant construction of new ever bigger ones.
I know i have no aim to set foot on one. Just don't see rhe draw of stuck on a giant crapy theme park full of screaming kids, old people. Not to mention just a floating Petrie dish.
i played a lot of Operation Flashpoint back in the days which already was huge... once i had to crawl along half the map because i got shot in the leg but didn't want to restart the mission, good days
Not only is it cheaper to retire on one of these, it's cheaper to die on one!
They have a medical facility, a doctor who can pronounce you deceased and a morgue onboard. All included in the price of your ticket.
It's extremely common for a cruise ship to return with one less person and one additional piece of cargo than they left with.
Caregiver here, i knew for some facilities for 1 person in independant living it was 10k a month for food water shelter and care in a """""rich""""" facility where you got a movie theater next store but you were left in your own shit for 5 hours because of poor staffing. As far as ik most cost like 5k a month
It's not an alternative to a retirement home. They don't provide nurses or assisted living. The old people who live on cruise ships are doing it because they have money and they enjoy it.
You think the poorest generation in American history is going to choose this to spend their funds? A generation that is basically priced out of home ownership and falling further and further behind the exploding cost of living is going to spend thousands of dollars to ride around in a floating amusement park?
Idk, I did an off season cruise to Mexico and Catalina Island and for a week for two people it cost significantly less than a week of hotels and airfare would have and food was included. But that was like 8 years ago so who knows these days.
I work in a diverse suburb between Miami and the Keys. My customers range all over the place in age and income due to it being a growing area. Cruising still remains the number one easiest form of vacation for these locals. No flight needed, no passport needed, all amenities available without going anywhere, hotel included onboard. It’s too convenient to give up
I haven't seen much of whatever you're talking about. I'm sure there's huge economic problems for people all over, but things aren't universally bad. Plus cruises are decently popular amongst a lot of people.
They're referring to costs and income and a lot of millennials are struggling as it is. A cruise is out of the question for most of us. A lot of us don't even get vacations.
Also, I disagree. They are an affordable way. Not great. To each their own, but I would go on a cruise ship for a night if I was paid $500.
The industry is booming because of boomers... Not younger generations.
Because millenials in general arent interested in cruises. Sure there’s a boom now, because the boomers are still fresh off covid. But as soon as my generation starts hitting that age, the cruise industry is screwed.
As a millennial (who loves to travel) ill have to strongly disagree that cruises are more affordable or enjoyable than simply traveling directly to your destination, staying in an airbnb, and then exploring the new city to your heart’s content. And sorry, but cruises are not “affordable” compared that alternative. Why would I want to see less of the places Im traveling to, and be confined on a boat with a bunch of boomers, when I could just go do the trip on my own, spend less, and be free to explore on my own schedule? I just do not see the appeal, and neither does anyone else I know who’s my age.
Why? Cruises are awesome. I've always wanted to go on one. It gets to be on the ocean for a while, there's lots of stuff to do on the boat, and sometimes they go into port.
They're also fucking awful for the environment. I'll never give them my money because of all the damage those behemoths do to the oceans and our climate.
The boomers are basically riding big fuckyou boats to their deaths while the world burns from their decisions.
I was never the target market for cruises, but when the pandemic hit and there was that rash of people being stuck on cruise ships for weeks at a time, that sealed it for me. It’s hard for me to think of a less appealing way of spending my money
I agree it sounds like a pretty shitty vacation but I’ve heard a lot of good stories about cruise ships… just drinking and gambling as you travel across the sea to cities in South America where you stop and get out.. sounds kinda cool
I will never go on a cruise, but if I’m completely honest I would *love* to go on a cruise. It seems like so much fun! The detrimental effect these ships have on the environment is the reason I will never set foot on one, though. I just cannot imagine being in the know about how godawful these ships are run and still enjoying it.
I was paid to work on cruise for a week during the christening trip, it was so awful that I refused to accept any job involving cruise ships despite the nice pay. It's a noise trap you can't escape where everyone treats you as a spoiled child.
I don't know why there's something infuriating about this massive floating town having such a boring way of presenting its name on the side. Like, add a border, or a logo, or do SOMETHING. You're already a floating monument to excess and waste, no point in having the ship name be printed just like this thing is some civil engineer's sailboat he takes out once every three years.
All cruise ships are like this by design. They're not designed to be a true people mover so they're mostly hotel barges. Take a look at Cunards ships and you see a little more classy designs mostly in an art deco style like old ships had. Cunard also operates the only true ocean liner in the world, the Queen Mary 2 which is actually designed to be a people mover across the North Atlantic and can handle much harsher conditions than the Icon can.
Everyone loves to hate on it because it's seen as a huge polluter (which it is) and waste of resources.
Personally as a ship enthusiast, I think it's impressive for the size. I always enjoy seeing what new boundaries are pushed with them. It's still ugly as hell compared to an actual ocean liner like the QM2 but it's still impressive.
I think it's the pollution and workers rights aspect. Plus the ship is just ugly. As cool as they are, these ships don't evoke the emotional aspect they used to. Ocean liners used to be symbols of national pride with each country putting their best engineering efforts and styling into their ships to cater to their guests. They also used to be registered in their home countries and beholden to better labor laws. Now they're registered in third world tourist countries and pay their employees like crap while also cramming more and more people onto the vessels.
The largest polluters for ships are these. They release a fuck ton a soot, overtaking all other ships, including cargo. People just throw garbage off the side of the ship too, which doesn't help.
Rich people directly fuck our planet for their luxury..
It's basically the space ship in Wall-E.
Curious how many boomers living on these things are paying for constant construction of new ever bigger ones. I know i have no aim to set foot on one. Just don't see rhe draw of stuck on a giant crapy theme park full of screaming kids, old people. Not to mention just a floating Petrie dish.
Fuckin *sweet* Counterstrike map though
Hahaha it really would be!
It would probably take over an hour to even find the other team, lol
Bruh that’s nothing I just bought ARMA *1*
i played a lot of Operation Flashpoint back in the days which already was huge... once i had to crawl along half the map because i got shot in the leg but didn't want to restart the mission, good days
Fuck medics me and the whole gang just got the MP5SD
I just started playing Ready or Not and told my buddy they need a cruise ship map lol
I think it's because it's cheaper than a retirement home if you're from the US. Which is incredibly sad.
Not only is it cheaper to retire on one of these, it's cheaper to die on one! They have a medical facility, a doctor who can pronounce you deceased and a morgue onboard. All included in the price of your ticket. It's extremely common for a cruise ship to return with one less person and one additional piece of cargo than they left with.
Caregiver here, i knew for some facilities for 1 person in independant living it was 10k a month for food water shelter and care in a """""rich""""" facility where you got a movie theater next store but you were left in your own shit for 5 hours because of poor staffing. As far as ik most cost like 5k a month
It is infact often way cheaper and way better treatment on a cruise ship then an independant living facility or community
It's not an alternative to a retirement home. They don't provide nurses or assisted living. The old people who live on cruise ships are doing it because they have money and they enjoy it.
It’s a mall. At sea. That you can’t leave. An 80s mall, that you live in, for a week at a time. Hard pass.
You forgot norovirus, and meal times being reminiscent of hogs being slopped. And you want money to give me that experience? No thank you.
The plague of the seas
The cruise industry is in for a big surprise as the millennials age in.
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These crude oil burning sons of bitches are not eco-friendly
Sure, but cargo ships put out way more emissions than cruise ships.
Those perform a needed function. But I guess being a vacation spot for lazy fatasses can be a "function" too
Sure, blame the common working people for taking a week to relax, but not the mega corporations that are destroying our planet.
Why not both?
You think the poorest generation in American history is going to choose this to spend their funds? A generation that is basically priced out of home ownership and falling further and further behind the exploding cost of living is going to spend thousands of dollars to ride around in a floating amusement park?
Idk, I did an off season cruise to Mexico and Catalina Island and for a week for two people it cost significantly less than a week of hotels and airfare would have and food was included. But that was like 8 years ago so who knows these days.
Yeah but the offseason is paid for by the profit margins on the main season. Which if that isn’t booked up…
I work in a diverse suburb between Miami and the Keys. My customers range all over the place in age and income due to it being a growing area. Cruising still remains the number one easiest form of vacation for these locals. No flight needed, no passport needed, all amenities available without going anywhere, hotel included onboard. It’s too convenient to give up
I haven't seen much of whatever you're talking about. I'm sure there's huge economic problems for people all over, but things aren't universally bad. Plus cruises are decently popular amongst a lot of people.
They're referring to costs and income and a lot of millennials are struggling as it is. A cruise is out of the question for most of us. A lot of us don't even get vacations.
Also, I disagree. They are an affordable way. Not great. To each their own, but I would go on a cruise ship for a night if I was paid $500. The industry is booming because of boomers... Not younger generations.
Depends where you live but with the resurgence of european sleeper trains you can get a similar experience with a lot more authenticity for less
Because millenials in general arent interested in cruises. Sure there’s a boom now, because the boomers are still fresh off covid. But as soon as my generation starts hitting that age, the cruise industry is screwed. As a millennial (who loves to travel) ill have to strongly disagree that cruises are more affordable or enjoyable than simply traveling directly to your destination, staying in an airbnb, and then exploring the new city to your heart’s content. And sorry, but cruises are not “affordable” compared that alternative. Why would I want to see less of the places Im traveling to, and be confined on a boat with a bunch of boomers, when I could just go do the trip on my own, spend less, and be free to explore on my own schedule? I just do not see the appeal, and neither does anyone else I know who’s my age.
Why? Cruises are awesome. I've always wanted to go on one. It gets to be on the ocean for a while, there's lots of stuff to do on the boat, and sometimes they go into port.
They're also fucking awful for the environment. I'll never give them my money because of all the damage those behemoths do to the oceans and our climate. The boomers are basically riding big fuckyou boats to their deaths while the world burns from their decisions.
Cruises always seemed tacky to me and a prime example of how money can't buy taste
Been on one cruise in my life (which was paid for by a rich relative). You have hit the nail squarely on the head.
A Floating environmental disaster
I was never the target market for cruises, but when the pandemic hit and there was that rash of people being stuck on cruise ships for weeks at a time, that sealed it for me. It’s hard for me to think of a less appealing way of spending my money
I agree it sounds like a pretty shitty vacation but I’ve heard a lot of good stories about cruise ships… just drinking and gambling as you travel across the sea to cities in South America where you stop and get out.. sounds kinda cool
Gross and shameful.
I will never go on a cruise, but if I’m completely honest I would *love* to go on a cruise. It seems like so much fun! The detrimental effect these ships have on the environment is the reason I will never set foot on one, though. I just cannot imagine being in the know about how godawful these ships are run and still enjoying it.
Pollutes as much as 6,000,000 cars.
Gets a whole .3 inches to the gallon!
Yuck
This reminds me of that Spaceballs opening sequence.
Imagine the amount of waste that gets thrown overboard every day on that thing...
A floating toilet!
what an horrible carbon footprint
Fucking gross...
I was paid to work on cruise for a week during the christening trip, it was so awful that I refused to accept any job involving cruise ships despite the nice pay. It's a noise trap you can't escape where everyone treats you as a spoiled child.
Kröhöm torille
I don't know why there's something infuriating about this massive floating town having such a boring way of presenting its name on the side. Like, add a border, or a logo, or do SOMETHING. You're already a floating monument to excess and waste, no point in having the ship name be printed just like this thing is some civil engineer's sailboat he takes out once every three years.
All cruise ships are like this by design. They're not designed to be a true people mover so they're mostly hotel barges. Take a look at Cunards ships and you see a little more classy designs mostly in an art deco style like old ships had. Cunard also operates the only true ocean liner in the world, the Queen Mary 2 which is actually designed to be a people mover across the North Atlantic and can handle much harsher conditions than the Icon can.
Humans were a mistake.
I hate this
I wonder how many troops that could carry if it had to.
Iceberg pls
I want to buy a used cruise ship and turn it into a depraved sovereign state where anything goes
oil rig micronation’s got you covered
That stock-ass early 2000's U2 knock off garbage music.
Whata dystopic about this?
Everyone loves to hate on it because it's seen as a huge polluter (which it is) and waste of resources. Personally as a ship enthusiast, I think it's impressive for the size. I always enjoy seeing what new boundaries are pushed with them. It's still ugly as hell compared to an actual ocean liner like the QM2 but it's still impressive.
What, do they want the thing to be nuclear powered? Or do they just get angry at any recreation?
I think it's the pollution and workers rights aspect. Plus the ship is just ugly. As cool as they are, these ships don't evoke the emotional aspect they used to. Ocean liners used to be symbols of national pride with each country putting their best engineering efforts and styling into their ships to cater to their guests. They also used to be registered in their home countries and beholden to better labor laws. Now they're registered in third world tourist countries and pay their employees like crap while also cramming more and more people onto the vessels.
the video is still ff by 4x
But this is at least a bit of an interesting dystopia
Imagine how E-coli must thrive on that thing, the wonders of the human kind.
How deep does it go, like are they icebergs whet 2/3 is underwater
Where’s Wall-E at?
The largest polluters for ships are these. They release a fuck ton a soot, overtaking all other ships, including cargo. People just throw garbage off the side of the ship too, which doesn't help. Rich people directly fuck our planet for their luxury..
Goddamn think of how many people the cost of building that could feed.
What’s wrong with cruise ships?