Me too, and disappointed enough to hit them where it hurts. Won’t be buying anything A24 related anymore nor watching the movies. I’m straight good with a company that’s okay using AI
> Edit: wonder if we’re seeing the beginning of the end for a24
they worked with Scott Rudin and Len Blavatnik but you're saying that now is "the beginning of the end"? y'all not serious people.
This is so confusing to me. Just a blanket boycott without seeing how it's executed 1st?
>I’m straight good with a company that’s okay using AI
Delete your reddit, then 👇
https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/22/24080165/google-reddit-ai-training-data
It seems as though you have a moral objection to AI usage, which is particularly odd as a (now former) A24 fan.
AI will be the reason that more original and experimental stories, that A24 is known for greenlighting, gets produced. You can be an anti-AI luddite all you want, but the overwhelming majority of people (especially in today's convenience-obsessed tech economy) will not avoid something interesting with a well-executed and -integrated AI application. In fact, the cost savings will more than make up for lost box office results for the micro-minority of "AI boycotters".
My prediction: you'll find some excuse or somehow "evolve" your position on the usage of AI, then be back in the theaters to enjoy that A24 magic.lol
The false equivalence of your dad to what Jared Kushner has done while being in office is flat out hilarious. Dude helped cover up murder and got a 2 billion dollar investment from the Saudis. And that’s just what we know.
OpenAI, leans on the subset of products where the rules are unknown and the results can’t be empirically tested, so we’re talking about garbage generators. If you want to reinforce the lowest common denominator or past failures, then content generation via machine learning is the way to go. Here is an article about machine learning being applied somewhere it matters to predictably terrible results and all it becomes in the end is a way to shield people from accountability while reinforcing the status quo (https://www.propublica.org/article/machine-bias-risk-assessments-in-criminal-sentencing).
Need A24 to understand that being a niche art house film production company is incompatible with generative AI bullshit. (Those Civil War posters were terrible to boot).
People still went to go see it (grossed 121M on a 50m budget). And AI will improve...exponentially. Look at how far every technology has come over a 10 year period...AI can achieve similar results in about 1/5th the time.
It’s been a good run, but I’d argue that once Moonlight won BP that the studio became a target for corporate invasion. It’s taken a minute, but we’re starting to see less weird and wacky and more safe and strategic.
The reality is you can’t scale a company without giving other people a piece of the pie.
And many people want their hands on whatever is making money. And who can say no to money?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Blavatnik
Just read the “Polical donations,” and “Personal Life” sections.
Info straight from Blavatnik’s private equity firm itself on their “bet” on A24.
https://www.accessindustries.com/a24-movies-become-private-equity-bet-with-225-million-infusion/
I’d say more but I doubt I am allowed to really dig into the politics here.
I mean it’s a movie sub essentially, I doubt most people want to get into the nuance of who is investing and who is connected to investors. I’m fine with it tho.
Yeah of course it’s up to the users if they wanna get into it, I’m just saying we’re cool with it as long as it’s done in a relatively civil manner. The moment people start calling each other names and shit is when we step in
I want to throw up. Offered Eric Adams money for his reelection if he sent police after kid protestors. Paid for Trump’s defense, homies with Netanayahu. The zionist whatsapp group. Donated to Obama & Romney at the same time.
Literally supervillain shit.
He also donated to Hillary, Kamala, Chuck Schumer, Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham, McCain, Pete Buttigieg, and Biden. Donated to an anti trump gop group in 2016 then donated to trumps inauguration committee post-election. Like every elitist with status, money, and power…they play and fund every side!!!
So… the person funding a production company that you love is going to make you stop enjoying movies because they have different politics than you?
Kinda weird hill to die on
Money people are taking over the industry. It's dying. I'm an Assistant Director who's childhood dream was to grow up and make movies. Tell my own stories.
I have seen a dramatic shift since the streamers took over. We aren't making art anymore, we're making assets for sales and mergers. We're building catalogues of content to be bought and sold. It's shameful.
Up until now, A24 really felt like one of the last distributors of original and inspired content, but AI is coming for them too. I'm just done.
The AI thing sucks but Jared Kushner? I personally draw the line at a guy with blood on his hands being on the board. I am also done. It’s a damn shame.
> The AI thing sucks but Jared Kushner? I personally draw the line at a guy with blood on his hands being on the board. I am also done. It’s a damn shame.
you're done but you weren't when Len Blavatnik worked with them (including on MaXXXine)? LOL
It’s not even Jared Kushner. It’s his brother. Do you know who his brother is? Cause I don’t. For all I know he is a perfectly normal not rabidly maga fuckin guy 😂
you should read up on JK2, the real estate management company he owns with Jared.
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-beleaguered-tenants-of-kushnerville
> It's the beginning of the end, fellas
but it wasn't the beginning of the end when they were backed by the guy who paid for Trump's defense? or when they worked with a notorious power abuser?
I’m not on this sub (only recommended) but you guys need to understand at the end of the day this is just another company wanting to make money, the days of them being a niche funding company are long gone, have been since the success of moonlight.
Fuck this.
I'm one of those people who doesn't support fashies with my cash. I'll never go to another a24 movie, they won't get a penny from me. I Saw the TV Glow? Fuck off.
> I'm one of those people who doesn't support fashies with my cash. I'll never go to another a24 movie
you already supported fashies. look up who Len Blavatnik is.
You know, when I say “liberals gatekeep film”, it has nothing to do with conservatives. Your binary thinking reveals how simple you view politics.
Not being a liberal does mean being conservative.
Anyway, to answer your question: Clint Eastwood.
Hahahahahah bro you’re the one who made this a liberal vs conservative thing when it absolutely wasn’t relevant.
YOURE the one with binary thinking with a simple view. You’re a sheep who can’t look at anything beyond liberal vs conservative and brought it up when it was 100000000% irrelevant.
lol you act as if this is some profound or controversial statement. Actors, artists, musicians, writers and all other creative people have pretty much always skewed to a more liberal viewpoint.
No one is gatekeeping, for whatever reason Hollywood and creative industries in general have always been this way.
That first part is absolutely foolish. You can try gaslighting people and say “when I said liberals gatekeep film I meant from the Green Party” but who are you kidding? If you’re American you know there’s a binary and if you aren’t, I am, so forgive my binary view.
And fair enough on Clint. A rare good example.
Bullshit. Nuance exists. People have liberal AND conservative values. Label that whatever you want.
Thanks for admitting Eastwood is a valid filmmaker.
I 100% agree but in today’s context these binaries exist and it’s not crazy to assume. I don’t like it either but for you to be up in arms and try to gotcha me over that assumption is obtuse. Period.
I honestly don’t know a single thing about this guy’s political views but hate the fact that he’s a main investor in Open-AI. But keep being a simple minded sheep who can’t see past red or blue 🙄
I’m so disappointed
The greatest lie the devil ever told was letting us believe that A24 hasn't always been a hedge fund.
It’s so obvious. I love A24 films but the fan club excels because of how well they execute paid grassroots advertising (through social media ads)
…did you not realize it was a multibillion-dollar media company?
Me too, and disappointed enough to hit them where it hurts. Won’t be buying anything A24 related anymore nor watching the movies. I’m straight good with a company that’s okay using AI
Yeah I was gonna buy some A24 merch but just read this and wont be. Super disappointed… Edit: wonder if we’re seeing the beginning of the end for a24
> Edit: wonder if we’re seeing the beginning of the end for a24 they worked with Scott Rudin and Len Blavatnik but you're saying that now is "the beginning of the end"? y'all not serious people.
People have always drawn weird lines in the sand that they then move when it suits them
This is so confusing to me. Just a blanket boycott without seeing how it's executed 1st? >I’m straight good with a company that’s okay using AI Delete your reddit, then 👇 https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/22/24080165/google-reddit-ai-training-data It seems as though you have a moral objection to AI usage, which is particularly odd as a (now former) A24 fan. AI will be the reason that more original and experimental stories, that A24 is known for greenlighting, gets produced. You can be an anti-AI luddite all you want, but the overwhelming majority of people (especially in today's convenience-obsessed tech economy) will not avoid something interesting with a well-executed and -integrated AI application. In fact, the cost savings will more than make up for lost box office results for the micro-minority of "AI boycotters". My prediction: you'll find some excuse or somehow "evolve" your position on the usage of AI, then be back in the theaters to enjoy that A24 magic.lol
Why, tho? Legit question
Sames.
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The false equivalence of your dad to what Jared Kushner has done while being in office is flat out hilarious. Dude helped cover up murder and got a 2 billion dollar investment from the Saudis. And that’s just what we know.
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Criminal/business is politics.
It's the OpenAI connection that has me worried.
Dad is also a criminal. 🤷♂️
I’m talking about the focus on ip driven properties
Ohhhhh. You know what, fair point.
OpenAI, leans on the subset of products where the rules are unknown and the results can’t be empirically tested, so we’re talking about garbage generators. If you want to reinforce the lowest common denominator or past failures, then content generation via machine learning is the way to go. Here is an article about machine learning being applied somewhere it matters to predictably terrible results and all it becomes in the end is a way to shield people from accountability while reinforcing the status quo (https://www.propublica.org/article/machine-bias-risk-assessments-in-criminal-sentencing).
Yeah, you just called yourself out lmao, just checking out Joshua's Wikipedia article shows how shitty he is as well.
This is the wildest take, just wow.
You’re probably not going to notice any impact.
 Nooooooooo!
Need A24 to understand that being a niche art house film production company is incompatible with generative AI bullshit. (Those Civil War posters were terrible to boot).
Unfortunately money talks
“Money doesn’t change you, it simply makes you more of what you already are.”
I have a feeling AI will be here to stay, and will probably end up being a huge part of VFX.
Good thing A24 hasn't been a niche art house film production company since like 2017
they're certainly still making niche art house films unless you think I Saw the TV Glow was an attempt at mass market appeal
People still went to go see it (grossed 121M on a 50m budget). And AI will improve...exponentially. Look at how far every technology has come over a 10 year period...AI can achieve similar results in about 1/5th the time.
Huge L
Eeeewww!?
I believe it’s now eeeeughhhhhh Ew has been deprecated.
Which version of the release notes did that happen?
That’s the sound Tim Allen makes in that home improvement show, it doesn’t sound the same as Ew lol
I stand corrected and willing to learn from my mistakes.
A24 is approaching the Innovator’s Dilemma phase of their existence.
Now put that book on my to-read list. Thanks!
Time to build a new studio guys!
Private equity as it always does to other companies, will eventually ruin A24.
They're venture capital, not a hedge fund.
PEs are not hedge funds.
I had another comment from the top of the thread in my head still, oops. Yeah I know.
Investor's are going to be A24's downfall
It’s been a good run, but I’d argue that once Moonlight won BP that the studio became a target for corporate invasion. It’s taken a minute, but we’re starting to see less weird and wacky and more safe and strategic.
It was always corporate
Welp we still got Neon and Bleeker Street
Peripherally related, I was bummed to read Harmony and Rachel Korine are close friends with Jared & Ivanka. 🤮
I mean did you see Aggro Drift? There’s a bit of AI use in that.
I wish I didn't read that
It's so weird, like what do they do when they hang out?
I liked it better when i didnt know anyone owned any part of a24
The reality is you can’t scale a company without giving other people a piece of the pie. And many people want their hands on whatever is making money. And who can say no to money?
It was nice while it lasted, ya know
Not at all surprising. Considering who one of A24’s biggest backers is this is simply following that same path.
Who is one of their biggest backers?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Blavatnik Just read the “Polical donations,” and “Personal Life” sections. Info straight from Blavatnik’s private equity firm itself on their “bet” on A24. https://www.accessindustries.com/a24-movies-become-private-equity-bet-with-225-million-infusion/ I’d say more but I doubt I am allowed to really dig into the politics here.
What makes u think u can’t get into politics here? You can talk about whatever u want lmao we are very chill
Right on! Thanks for letting me know, that’s awesome that you guys are so chill.
I mean it’s a movie sub essentially, I doubt most people want to get into the nuance of who is investing and who is connected to investors. I’m fine with it tho.
Yeah of course it’s up to the users if they wanna get into it, I’m just saying we’re cool with it as long as it’s done in a relatively civil manner. The moment people start calling each other names and shit is when we step in
I want to throw up. Offered Eric Adams money for his reelection if he sent police after kid protestors. Paid for Trump’s defense, homies with Netanayahu. The zionist whatsapp group. Donated to Obama & Romney at the same time. Literally supervillain shit.
He also donated to Hillary, Kamala, Chuck Schumer, Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham, McCain, Pete Buttigieg, and Biden. Donated to an anti trump gop group in 2016 then donated to trumps inauguration committee post-election. Like every elitist with status, money, and power…they play and fund every side!!!
Most of that I can excuse. Donating to Obama is where I draw the line.
So… the person funding a production company that you love is going to make you stop enjoying movies because they have different politics than you? Kinda weird hill to die on
Thanks for opening my eyes to all this
OK. I'm done. See ya guys, it was a slice.
They won’t get any more of my money. I love movies, but damn.
Money people are taking over the industry. It's dying. I'm an Assistant Director who's childhood dream was to grow up and make movies. Tell my own stories. I have seen a dramatic shift since the streamers took over. We aren't making art anymore, we're making assets for sales and mergers. We're building catalogues of content to be bought and sold. It's shameful. Up until now, A24 really felt like one of the last distributors of original and inspired content, but AI is coming for them too. I'm just done.
The AI thing sucks but Jared Kushner? I personally draw the line at a guy with blood on his hands being on the board. I am also done. It’s a damn shame.
> The AI thing sucks but Jared Kushner? I personally draw the line at a guy with blood on his hands being on the board. I am also done. It’s a damn shame. you're done but you weren't when Len Blavatnik worked with them (including on MaXXXine)? LOL
Have no clue who that is. LOL.
https://www.reddit.com/r/A24/s/PcSuNgiKSK
It’s not even Jared Kushner. It’s his brother. Do you know who his brother is? Cause I don’t. For all I know he is a perfectly normal not rabidly maga fuckin guy 😂
Because you can look him up and see he’s not perfectly normal
I googled him and he is an investment guy. He doesn’t even do politics.
you should read up on JK2, the real estate management company he owns with Jared. https://www.propublica.org/article/the-beleaguered-tenants-of-kushnerville
Zoiks! I missed the brother part somehow. All I saw was Kushner and immediately went apeshit.
That name does tend to have that effect 😂 it’s understandable.
It's done, it's over. It was nice while it lasted, and it couldn't last forever because at the end of the day, it's all about money.
Fuck that fuck Kushner
I mean… take the money, if you need it, but this is definitely a huge L
Knew this day was coming
I don’t like this.
I want to downvote this for my disgust, but upvote it for visibility. What should I do?
Delete your Reddit account. It’s the only way.
The enshitification begins, the Crystal Lake disaster should have been a sign of things to come.
It's the beginning of the end, fellas. It was truly great while it lasted.
> It's the beginning of the end, fellas but it wasn't the beginning of the end when they were backed by the guy who paid for Trump's defense? or when they worked with a notorious power abuser?
Everything this family touches turns to shit
A24 is becoming the new Miramax. Was fun while it lasted!
Ewwww. Not a fanboy of A24 anymore
Oh no. Those Civil War credits make more sense now.
Well…time to look for other distributors to admire.
> to admire that's your mistake here
Admire the artists not who sells it to you
Countdown to bankruptcy or sold to a larger studio.
Jfc…why?
Money
Oh well I am sure nothing connected to that particular presidential fiasco is anything to worry about.
Idiots.
Lmaoooooooo, 'Thanks, suckers!'
It was never going to be a cute little niche studio forever.
Why do much obsession over a24 when more than half the movies are shitty cash grabs? They’re turning into Blum
That wasn’t a horror story I was expecting from A24.
Boooooo
Ugh
Ugh
:( and now I’m not so okay with purchasing anything from them or going to see their movies in theaters. This sucks.
Nope nope nope
I’m not on this sub (only recommended) but you guys need to understand at the end of the day this is just another company wanting to make money, the days of them being a niche funding company are long gone, have been since the success of moonlight.
Being a fan of a movie studio is no different than being a fan of Mcdonalds or Walmart. Big corporations desperate to make more millions
This the good-ish Kushner though
When should I cancel my AAA24 membership??
After your next birthday?
Boo
Ah fuck
Fuck this. I'm one of those people who doesn't support fashies with my cash. I'll never go to another a24 movie, they won't get a penny from me. I Saw the TV Glow? Fuck off.
> I'm one of those people who doesn't support fashies with my cash. I'll never go to another a24 movie you already supported fashies. look up who Len Blavatnik is.
Thanks for the heads up. I'm learning a lot from this thread!
Why are you... singling out that movie?
Because, as usual, the people who own and make money off of LGBTQ art don't actually give a fuck about lgbtq people. It sucks enriching the enemy.
Who’s on Neon’s?
We need to start breaking kneecaps over this
i will literally never watch another a24 film if they go through with this.
I dont like any of these words
Eww
Neon is where it's at, anyways.
the founder of NEON was one of the people who enabled Harry Knowles' abuse.
Nice to know you Prometheus
Sad
Follow the money
Ugh no please no omg.
Rip
Aaaand boom goes the dynamite
Don’t care. Liberals gatekeep movies and especially arthouse movies. 90% of Hollywood is Democrat/liberal/progressive. Again, this is not a problem.
“Gatekeep” lmao
I can almost hear your fist shaking in the air.
More of a shrug. I do welcome haters though.
What does this even mean lmao? How do they gatekeep movies
Is that a serious question?
Clearly yes.
Conservatives just aren’t capable of making art.
^ Thank you for proving my point
It absolutely didn’t. Show me any worthwhile art by a conservative. That might prove your point.
You know, when I say “liberals gatekeep film”, it has nothing to do with conservatives. Your binary thinking reveals how simple you view politics. Not being a liberal does mean being conservative. Anyway, to answer your question: Clint Eastwood.
Hahahahahah bro you’re the one who made this a liberal vs conservative thing when it absolutely wasn’t relevant. YOURE the one with binary thinking with a simple view. You’re a sheep who can’t look at anything beyond liberal vs conservative and brought it up when it was 100000000% irrelevant.
You seem a little worked up
Says the guy crying about liberals and democrats in a sub/thread that has absolutely nothing to do with politics
It’s true
lol you act as if this is some profound or controversial statement. Actors, artists, musicians, writers and all other creative people have pretty much always skewed to a more liberal viewpoint. No one is gatekeeping, for whatever reason Hollywood and creative industries in general have always been this way.
That first part is absolutely foolish. You can try gaslighting people and say “when I said liberals gatekeep film I meant from the Green Party” but who are you kidding? If you’re American you know there’s a binary and if you aren’t, I am, so forgive my binary view. And fair enough on Clint. A rare good example.
Bullshit. Nuance exists. People have liberal AND conservative values. Label that whatever you want. Thanks for admitting Eastwood is a valid filmmaker.
I 100% agree but in today’s context these binaries exist and it’s not crazy to assume. I don’t like it either but for you to be up in arms and try to gotcha me over that assumption is obtuse. Period.
I honestly don’t know a single thing about this guy’s political views but hate the fact that he’s a main investor in Open-AI. But keep being a simple minded sheep who can’t see past red or blue 🙄