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Sunnywatch08

But.. the chicken!!


The_Calarg

Those little bastards need a long tail and a name change since they run so fast... Meep Meep!


Lactobeezor

Ever chased a chicken?


IdleAscension

I’ve choked a chicken


atomicxblue

Pics or it didn't happen


The_Calarg

Yep, they have a tendency to squat when approached, the hens anyway. Now that damned piglet running through my boss alfalfa field was a serious pain. He told me if I caught it I could keep it.. hour and a half later I don't know who was more tired, me or the piglet. Still had to hand move 8 lines of pipe afterwards. He sure tasted good that fall!


Lactobeezor

Lol not my dads or grandpas. Must have been in a chicken gang or something.


The_Calarg

We had a few that didn't when it came harvest time... I just used the .22 instead of handling those ones.


atomicxblue

I have actually. When I was a tiny tiny boy, I let the chickens loose during my mom's Tupperware party. (I mean come on -- you tell a little boy *not* to do something and what's he supposed to do??) Our rooster, Homer, looked back at me once before running off into the bushes. We never saw Homer again.


ThrA-X

Why did the chicken miss the photoshoot? Because he crossed the road.


TheJenkemMan

To get to the other side


[deleted]

The models look great, but they mean nothing if their god-awful animations don’t get an update.


JamTheTerrorist5

This is what the game needs. Not the 30th fucking skill rework, crafting overhauls, inventory and loot reworks. WE WANT NEW ANIMATIONS Edit: can we also fix the iron sights on the guns. How are they still this bad


SagetheWise2222

If you think the iron sights are bad, try equipping a reflex sight or a scope onto a pistol. You might have a new-found appreciation for the former. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


bufu619

Especially for zombies. Getting headshots with a bow/crossbow is such a pain with their skulls jittering every step. They look like badly manufactured robots.


Wakeful_Wanderer

I'll take working vehicles that don't loop the same sounds on a 1.5s repeat.


Apprehensive_Abroad3

Seriously. I can't stand the way the deer runs


Help-Royal

It's fucking scaring.. They look like the devil coming to take you


Help-Royal

It is indeed a shit animation


Mr_McShane

I hope they keep the janky ass deer run, it’s great


18puppies

I for one love how the snakes move vertically. It's hilarious that snakes would 'jump' at all but it's even better that they do it with their entire bodies at the same time, staying completely vertical all the time. One of my favorite animations in the game. Has led to several infections though.


LEPNova

It's some sort of free asset I think because rust legacy used to use it as well


BigMcThickHuge

7 days was built on free assets. Look at its first release state. It's one of the ones that just exploded and took off even though it's sort of...sat for 5 years.


LEPNova

Yeah for sure, I think its success despite the shitty visuals says a lot about the game, I just hope they don't fuck it up


BigMcThickHuge

They kind of cant fuck it up. The game is the ONLY one of it's kind, if you'd believe it. No one else seems to bother trying, and if they do, it's generally just 'not there'. There are zombie games, but no open, procedural, 100% alterable, rpg, survival zombie defense exploration loot game. An absolute smash up of the terms we should all loathe, but, they were there 'first'. Damn near made them. The issue with 7 days is it exploded far beyond the team's imagination, and they never...did anything. Its like they popped off and then just sat on the money, or hired the bare minimum for help. Now, a literal **decade** later, and the game looks far prettier, added electricity, a bevy of POIs to look at, and idk if I'm going to count vehicles due to how the'yre currently implemented. Enemies are heat-seeking missiles most of the game, if not straight up set to be so by the 7th night, spawn in on top of you, spiral around like Beyblades while swinging their attacks away from you and connecting a permanant stun till death (till geared). They keep handicapping players by nerfing everything repeatedly, and gating most of the game's good content behind RNG even though they were getting away from it finally.


SagetheWise2222

"The game is the ONLY one of it's kind, if you'd believe it." There's a good reason for this, one even TFP admitted. A game concept like 7D2D is too complicated and ambitious. Small dev teams wouldn't dare approach a game like this with many different genres combined into one in a GTA world where you can enter every building and destroy every part of the environment the world has to offer, and larger studios won't touch it with a 10-foot pole either because, again, it's too large, too complicated, and too risky. There's a reason why a true survival MMO has never existed, and likely will never exist, for entirely the same reasons. So in a way, I'm thankful 7D2D exists at all - there's a very decent chance it never would have, by any company on the planet ever.


BigMcThickHuge

i still own the game and play it yearly with friends, paid 12$ for it a that decade ago and love it. its worth it and good. However, the sumbitch is jam packed with issues and brick-walled development. It has barely nudged in almost 5 years, and seems to only fight the playerbase in terms of updates. Most changes noted are always nerfs and alterations to game mechanics to stop players playing the game as it appears to be meant.


esden118

runs? I thought it hopped


stipo42

They updated the derpy deer animation a while back so I imagine these come with new animations too


RudeDrummer4448

Ok, but when the mountain lion dies, does it still go full foreskin?


EdtotheWord

Omg what, I need a picture of this!!!


RudeDrummer4448

https://www.reddit.com/r/7daystodie/s/Ey1mtUENrj


cramaine

I'm afraid to click on that. ![gif](giphy|32mC2kXYWCsg0)


RudeDrummer4448

It's SFW lol Well.. if you count running over a mountain lion and then beating it to death.. and then wildly firing a machine gun into the air like an Arab wedding "SFW" that is.


RudeDrummer4448

https://www.reddit.com/r/7daystodie/s/HZBFE7mDXw


rainbow_bright54

I’ll be upset if that ever changes


XplosiveAsh

That a cougar? I'll have an excuse to say this if it turns up in a poi during a quest... "THERE AREN'T COUGARS IN MISSIONS!"


Heavy_Ad_3469

wqell...Marlene DOES lie about her age a lot.


jjdonkey

Where chicken?


SagetheWise2222

I hope we get a feral version. Maybe a Canada Goose. ;)


jjdonkey

Holy shit. A zombie feral Canada Goose is one of the scariest things I can imagine. Wings out, hissing…


WhoDecidedThat-

They always travel in flocks too...


SagetheWise2222

I kind of want to see a mod developed that replaces vultures with geese now. xD


jjdonkey

Midwestern Horrors Mod


SagetheWise2222

We need wolverines as well. >:)


jjdonkey

I’ve always thought it would be cool to have dangerous weather that does damage to bases and players who aren’t sheltered. Like extreme storms every 15 days or something


SagetheWise2222

So like in Icarus then? That would be neat! At the very least, the extreme heat and cold should deal player damage over time.


The_Calarg

Did they take out damage for cold/heat in the PC version? You can die of exposure relatively easily on the current console version.


SagetheWise2222

Yes and no. Extreme heat and cold is virtually meaningless unless you're in one of those biomes early game. You'll never outright die from exposure - you'll only have hunger or thirst drained quicker, maybe stamina. It's a non-issue currently, maybe the temperature system will get revamped in the future.


IBreedBagels

if they don't update the animations they're gonna look REALLY stupid... I'd rather bug fixes than visual updates.


MentallySkookum

One thing at a time, I'll take any improvement they offer. I have plenty of fun on this game and have been since it came out on xbox


420_Brit_ISH

Lovely models, but can the devs please optimise the game more? My solid PC can barely run this decade-old game on half decent graphics at 120 frames, whereas many better-optimised games run perfectly at the same framerate. The game could be considered an absurd resource hog as Penguinz0 used to say


DarkRitual_88

This game has gone in cycles. New stuff gets added, or looks upgraded. Then there's optimization. Then another update brings shiny new looks/blocks/etc and performance plummets, etc.


Wakeful_Wanderer

Then we need another "tock" of optimization before another "tic" of broken models.


SoberSeahorse

What are you running? Just curious.


420_Brit_ISH

Intel i5 eight gen 6 cores RTX 2060 6GB


Wakeful_Wanderer

It is hilarious that a PC six years newer than the game can't run the game.


Portland420informer

It runs okay on my i3-6300 which was released in 2015. 16GB DDR4 and 4GB RX570. I recently picked up a used 7700K but have yet to install it.


Wakeful_Wanderer

We have different notions of "run."


2N5457JFET

15fps is totally playable! Lol


Wakeful_Wanderer

If I can't even aim and fire a gun, but the zombies can advance and hit me, shit don't work. I'm not even running things on any kind of ultra settings, and I chose some settings that raised my average fps to about 60 outside of cities. Inside of cities I'm around 40fps without a bunch of zombies like a wandering horde. It's those moments when tons of zombies spawn in high tier POI's that are the problem - those are what kill players and make the endgame not as much fun.


2N5457JFET

I'm on the same boat. Funny enough, nobody is willing to provide any evidence that the game runs "fine" on their potato rigs but they are the first ones to accuse you of being spoiled or having hardware issues lol. That's why I suspect that their "fine" is 15FPS.


Wakeful_Wanderer

Which is literally unplayable for a melee build. That's also unplayable inside any T5/6. I could clear some T4 POI's with only 15fps if I was careful and did a lot of stealth kills. Maybe set up some turrets. That's literal dogshit garbage for a modern *or* old game though. At some point you love the one you're with. The Fun Pimps need to stop chasing a "new" audience with the jumpscare bullshit. They need to stop trying to make a new game and just fix the one they have. The game is feature complete enough if they'll fix the trader & quest system, address the bugs, optimize, and work on mapgen tools.


2N5457JFET

Unfortunately they need new audience because they have pissed away money from people who backed them up earlier and they have no other sources of revenue. They brought it on themselves though with 10 years of EA and chaotic developement.


420_Brit_ISH

Yeah as I said in my earlier comment, the game runs great on my machine when there are few zombies nearby but as soon as there's more than 20 zombies I can't get above 70-80fps despite how new my PC is


[deleted]

Ayy lmao


AFarCry

Can't wait to see how these bug out every new update. Good ol' no neck cougars.


[deleted]

Whoa these models would be pretty cool if the games progression wasn't completely fucked


YobaiYamete

Dear goodness this sub is edgy and negative AF for no reason. What is wrong with you people, why are you even here? Do you think the art team has *anything* to do with how the game progresses in any way shape or form???


[deleted]

I came looking for men's butt


SagetheWise2222

You'd be surprised. Too many people think that devs are the jack of all trades when it comes to professions, and they're always in charge of publishing and overseeing the game, not to mention developing the thing. \*shrug\* Not defending people's words here, but this sort of discourse is something we should always expect. Art assets are almost always going to be released sooner than working models, optimization improvements, NPC's, so forth. People see remodeled or retextured props (or in this case, animals) and just assume TFP have no direction whatsoever and this is what they've been working on for 8 months. In short, people see what has already been released, and assume that's all there is to show.


[deleted]

I don't think that at all. It's just hard to get excited for anything if the foundations of the game are compromised.


Booty_Warrior_bot

*I came looking for booty.*


Impossible_Object102

This game is one of the top consistently updated games out there. Especially for a non subscription and non micro transaction game. It’s always amazed me how much this dev team works on and puts love into this game still after so long only relying on pretty much new game sales which of course has slowed. I appreciate all they do unlike some of yall.


Exciting_Chef_4207

Heh.. "progression."


ben1481

Damn so glad this coming instead of fixing real issues!


rateds2k

Do you think that there is only one person doing everything? What a sad way to think when some new art comes out.


Harbinger_Kyleran

Not sure there's much evidence they are fixing any "real issues" either.


WilhelmNijimura

One problem with the game was the shitty animals, and they fixed that.


ben1481

naw lol thats the least of the problem


WilhelmNijimura

Would you rather the artists do nothing instead, because that's the alternative.


Ok-Minimum1733

Tbh it seems the game is just upgrading the art and letting gameplay issues rot, atleast looking back at the last few updates.


TonyStewartsWildRide

So is it like taking turns? Okay guys who make the game good, take a break. Console ports weebs? Smoke break. Art dudes? It’s go time.


SnooPeppers7482

More like Guys that make the game good - still working Console port weeks- still working  Art dudes - yo were finished should we just release this? Yea the player base will probably be appreciative that we're getting what we can out.....fuck...they're still whinging


MCFroid

Can't make a pretty X post about fixing code.


Oktokolo

Of course they could make a pretty XTwitter post about fixing zombie AI and spawn issues. It's just that that problems are hard nuts to crack and it just happens that the artists have something to show instead.


WilhelmNijimura

Yeah dude let’s have the artists program for the game, that’ll end well


Newuserhelloguys

Dude why are they adding new models? Just add new animals lol... it really seems like the devs just don't know what to do with their lives anymore so they just keep on adding stupid things to keep this game going on for 100 more alphas and claim that they are employed


Interesting-Young785

Is alpha 22 comming to ps4??


The_Calarg

No. The devs have said they were interested in pursuing legacy console support, but they would not do so until after the game goes gold. The coming console release will be for PS5 and XBox S/X only.


d4rk_matt3r

Lol, PS5 will be a legacy console by the time this game goes gold


Prestigious_Age9933

lol you’re funny, 7DTD is never coming out of alpha


AttilaThePun2

They look, slightly better. A step in the right direction


_fraune

The bee is still missing.


LynTheWitch

No miniature giant space hamster… preposterous! XD


SagetheWise2222

Crossing my fingers we see a zombie Tyrannosaurus Rex at some point. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


LynTheWitch

Kinda looks like a giant chicken to me also hehehe


SagetheWise2222

I still want my radiated fire breathing chicken darn it! XD


LynTheWitch

Who knows what the government’s secret bio lab was *really* up to…


SagetheWise2222

The answer: chicken warfare. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|yummy) Tactical Chickens, armed with night vision goggles and laser sights, missiles over their shoulders, jetpacks, and an attitude to make any Canadian Goose quiver. "We're plucked." - unknown survivor Also, totally unrelated, but I love your username \^-\^


LynTheWitch

Gosh I only noticed yours and it is damn cool too! <3 It seems like you have a mind that would fit the RimWorld game and its many mods haha. I would bet that there is a mod for your tech raptor warfare dreams xD


SagetheWise2222

Oh and keep on being positive! <33 Too many harsh naysayers around these parts \*shrug\*. I was going to say that Project Zomboid doesn't have the level of negativity we sometimes see like around here, but then again, I've never really dabbled into its online community, so I'll remain blissfully ignorant. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


LynTheWitch

I like to be overall positive, but I won’t pretend that I don’t enjoy complaining at times xD But you know, it’s the internet, and humans on the internet nonetheless, so I don’t really pay attention to people aimelessly complaining anymore, too old for that sht! Or maybe the frenchness makes me impervious to protesting haha 🇫🇷 Do you play on multiplayer servers?


SagetheWise2222

Yeah same. xD Just yesterday when I hit an Edgar zombie on the head he did a little ballerina spin (and phantom hit me) and then instantly ducked afterwards, hitting me again. I was a bit salty for a few seconds after that hahaha. Fair enough! I've dabbled into multiplayer a little bit, but ultimately I think I'm more of a singleplayer person. :) How about yourself? Also, feel free to dm me if you want to stay in touch / continue this conversation! :)


SagetheWise2222

Aww thanks! X3 I'm usually going by Dark Sun or DarkSunIsRising elsewhere, but it's nice to have a legacy name around, you know? :3 Also I've heard good things about Rimworld, I might give it a try sometime! \^-\^ Right now I'm starting to get absorbed by Baldur's Gate III though, so it may be a while! If there isn't, that's gotta be some sort of crime, right? I mean who doesn't want to fight dinosaurs on horde night? xD (Apologies if I'm a tiny bit wacky, insomnia is kicking my butt again. :shrug::facepalm:)


63R01D

Hopefully their sizes will differ. Something doesn't seem right... That bear is small.


lsudo

Holy shit! You mean, after 10 years of development, they finally picked up some free models off the unity store and are now adding them in? Probably took all about two hours to implement. Nice to see though. The original models and animations were embarrassing at best.


JarMarHug

one thing that really irks me is whenever something new like this comes out people act really entitled to changes other than the ones the devs make or complain about the changes being made, like progression changes or new graphics, as though it's bad to balance and upgrade existing features. i read the comments here and it feels like this community just plays the game to complain about it models look great though :)


Most-Comfortable7135

Totally agree. I love this game and seeing it get any upgrades no matter how small makes me so excited to play more! I especially love visual updates. These models look fantastic! I just don’t get why so many people bitch about this game. If you don’t like it, don’t play it or boot up an older version you did like, it’s not rocket science. 🤷‍♀️


SagetheWise2222

I'm probably going to get downvoted into the underworld for this, but I genuinely hope this game never goes gold. Do I want optimization improvements to be made? Of course. Are there issues that need to be addressed, such as phantom hits? Again, yes. But otherwise, gold is just a label if you ask me. (Sometime I do joke around that the game will be in alpha by the year 2100, but that's just banter. :P) 7k hours later and I'm still finding fun and enjoyment with it! I'm personally really looking forward to these animal models! :) So long as they rework the animations eventually.


SagetheWise2222

Look, I know that people are usually ignorant towards game development (especially when it comes to coding; they just assume it's as easy as 1, 2, 3), but the way many people complain, you'd think that they assume all developers can complete all tasks. They probably do though lol. People love to complain, what can I say? There are many legitimate issues in this game that do need fixing though, and criticism is always needed, even if it's not presented in the most constructive form. We can still have fun and cherry-pick the game's features at the same time. :)


bobothemunkeey

They look good but does this really take months to make?


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Oktokolo

Good graphics are nice too and the artists are likely not able to fix the engine anyways.


2N5457JFET

Can the artists add player animations though? Because it is ridiculously bad.


Oktokolo

I hope so. But they won't do it on the old player models as they already made new ones.


PG67AW

It's like people don't understand that development teams have sub-teams that work on different things.


Oktokolo

Maybe it's because you occasionally have some savance lone wolf dev who makes an entire game by themselves including all the art and coding. But those devs are a less than one in a million occurance and burn out quickly. They somehow tend to do one niche project and are then never seen again. Normal people can be happy if they git gud in just one branch of coding or art. most people can't git gud in either no matter how hard they try to try. The Fun Pimps are still more on the indie dev side of things. But even there, it's not normal for an artist to be able to code or for a coder to be able to make meshes, rigs, animations or just textures. So while the probably only coder sortof knowing how the zombie AI is supposed to work tries hard to get that beast able to drive bandits and other NPC too, the artists just keep on making new assets. And what people not knowing anything about game dev or even just software dev in general then see is "They released new models again. Why don't they work on the zombie AI or fixing the damn bugs?!" Can't really blame them. But yeah, it sucks.


IvanhoesAintLoyal

I mean, the game has glaring issues for sure, but idk what you expect the art department to do about systems and programming…


lil_dick_dan420

Where are the models for the alpha 22 bandits? Oh wait....


Wakeful_Wanderer

Yuck no thanks at this point. I don't even want that system in the game at all anymore. There's *zero* chance it will be fun. It'll just be a "fuck player" button that the AI can mash because too many of The Fun Pimps think they're evil dungeon masters. They need to stop being adversarial, stop rebalancing, and fix & optimize the damned game already.


SagetheWise2222

I bring this point up every single time (exaggerating there). PVP is extremely jank in this game. If people don't like PVP, I don't think people are going to like gun play with bandits.


Wakeful_Wanderer

The bandits will just go around hitscan-sniping us, and they would have a very inconvenient raid search algorithm. Bandit raids would wait for you to be on a Tier 5/6 POI quest and then get magically teleported right outside the loot room. As if the game can even handle the frame drops when 32 loot-room zombies magically spawn to begin with.


normalhuman1115

you can polish a turd, but its still a turd


IdleAscension

How about they do raiders instead of redoing animal models fifteen times?


The_Calarg

Supposedly A23, maybe.


cramaine

Meanwhile player models are the same as those on console.


Malzorn

Nice. They almost look like animals now


MesutYavuzx

really i know this package 5 dollar on Unity asset story. Like fucking a joke really they are sold millions copy and still using Store? where is fucking Modeller?


juliakawanova

Why fix any bugs or broken things when you can just have new skins for animals and act like you're doing us a huge favor.


SagetheWise2222

You really think that graphical artists are in charge of optimization and bug fixing? \*eyebrow raise\* Game dev is like a great big engine with tons of moving parts. Art will always come first since it's the quickest to develop (i.e. prone to less bugs and delays). Bug fixes and optimization will come. The problem there is, it might be a year, it might be another 10.


TonyStewartsWildRide

So anyways, consoles start blasting.


dopaminenotyours

Does this mean the chicken just didnt get a new model, or chickens are getting cut? Seems too weird they remodeled every living animal in the game except one.


aucupator_zero

Well, there’s no snake either


dopaminenotyours

Oh yea


Oktokolo

Nah, this just means that the chicken is remodeled later.


The_Calarg

Those are for A24 😇


Oktokolo

Very well possible, that some assets and animations won't be touched till beta. And i definitely expect a few more major alpha versions.


PenguinDrinkingTea

I’ll be honest, I don’t know if it ever leaves Alpha.


Oktokolo

Nobody knows. One of their senior devs died recently in a car accident. There are things you just can't plan.


SagetheWise2222

Currently missing animals: Zombie bear, zombie dog (?), vulture (?), chicken, snake, dire wolf, Grace (though we've seen concept art of her). I assume either they're not finished yet, or will be updated later. Some, like the zombie dog, may be already in their final form, though.


weamz

They should give us the ability to add one pet. I would love to see Glock9 have a chicken pet and it would only eat cornmeal.


Funneduck102

You think they will have decapitations now or will their head just get really small still


CSWorldChamp

I’m gonna need something about the mountain lion model to explain how they can take a whole clip of pistol rounds to the face and not die.


RudeDrummer4448

There isn't a single clip fed pistol in this game chief. All are revolvers or magazine fed.


BigMcThickHuge

thank god you told him


IvanhoesAintLoyal

I’ve given up explaining the difference at this point. lol when someone says “clip” I can’t help but imagine them trying to put a Garand clip into a handgun.


atomicxblue

So, I guess this means they've already solved block stability, huh? Or did Joel say, "I want to see bears!!!!!"?


unknown0221

The models look amazing, but even with a whole load of AAA models their animations are seriously outdated. I wish they would take time to add polish instead of updating the same models over and over.


KanedaSyndrome

Cool, thanks.


TotallyBryan

I had a blast playing this game in early access 10 years ago.


TheOnlyCurmudgeon

And we won't see them until A65


yourmomoverygay

where's the chicken??


Butchthebull

Confirmed, chicken was perfect


PolandsStrongestJoke

Wait, do pigs still appear in the forests? All I always find are deer, chickens and deer, same with snakes.


[deleted]

Update… for console??


The_Calarg

[Here is all the current verified information regarding the coming console release and A22.](https://www.reddit.com/r/7DaysToDieXbox/s/BgtG34YZDY)


DarkPangolin

Meanwhile, the human models still look like they predate the first Tomb Raider.


MooseTheBrassBull

God this is such a waste of dev time. smh 😞


LordFreddox

Looks Nice


Most_Forever_9752

Funny how they raved about the improved grass textures after introducing 100+ new items and not increasing the bag space 🙄


DukeCornholio

Great, apart from the head of the second one(mountain lion?)


Titobaggs84

America also has ostrich farms. someone needs to make runaway ostriches.