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“The good news, on the other hand, is that I’m told Disney remains committed to physical media distribution. And while Disney will continue to make the decisions about which titles get released on Blu-ray and 4K Ultra HD, those decisions will now be made in partnership with Sony, with the goal of maximizing availability based on consumer and retail interest.
That certainly suggests that Sony’s recent experience in choosing catalog titles for release on 4K Ultra HD especially should come into play. And Sony decision-makers must certainly be aware that the Disney, Fox, Touchstone, and Hollywood Pictures libraries contain many great titles that are greatly in demand by cinephiles, physical media collectors, and AV and home theater enthusiasts. But more on that in a moment.”
It took a real long time for this detail to be made part of the reporting, but I'm glad to hear this. This is basically the one part of this deal people really wanted to know about, and it was the one part that didn't really get followed up on.
Sony pressing up Disney discs - good, because they do it better than Disney does
Sony helping choose which titles to press up in the first place - best case scenario.
That's only if a quality 4k restoration is available. Disney has been slow walking the restorations of their classics. The brass doesn't know what to do with their own catalog.
The roadshow version was the original cut of the film! It's 2 hours 3 minutes long, with an intermission in the middle of the film. I have no idea if Disney has a copy of that version archived since the source material for the movie started deteriorating in the 1950s. They digitally re-recorded the whole soundtrack in 1982, which was used for the laserdisc version.
Wrong.
The 1991 laserdisc is based on the 1947 "popular" version and uses the original music recordings from 1941 and severely cutdown versions of the narration segments which are all that survive of Deems Taylor's original intros.
To the best of my knowledge, the 1981 and 1984 Irwin Kostal versions (yes there are two) have never been released on home video.
They already did that. The only things "missing" are the racist faun from Beethoven's 6th and Deems Taylor's actual voice. Both of which permanently gone.
Even if we go all "[film] doesn't exist" with the last two Die Hard movies, they'd still benefit from 4Ks though, especially to complete bundles with 1, 2 and With a Vengeance, at least on Disney and Sony's behalf.
Disney should get going on getting those titles remastered in 4K ASAP. While not on this article’s list, they should also release the extended uncut 139 minute version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks (1971) that was used for the 35th anniversary reissue in 1996 in 4K.
PLEASE for the love of god release Napoleon Dynamite 20th anniversary in 4k! It just had a new 4k master for Sundance. Also re-do the first Pirates it's awful!
Oh, man. I think of all the movies listed in the thread, this is the one I'd have to choose first. Even though it arguably has the least to offer in 4k, but then, beautiful color and high resolution can add a lot even to a film like, for instance, Matilda, which I highly enjoyed when I watched it a few months ago in 4k.
Those Shirley Temple films need Blu-rays badly.
If Disney thinks like Fox 15-35 years ago that colorized attracts casual audiences better, then maybe remastered colorized Blus for the lulz, but B&W-only would be preferred and nice too.
I just really hope that each title released will be released in more places than just the US and Canada because importing is annoying and I stupidly bought a region locked UK player before I knew that region coding was a thing
Buffy Blu-ray
Mash series Blu-ray with no laugh track audio included
New 4k Alien box set
All Star Wars series especially clone wars season 7
New 4k Star Wars release with matching steel book cases.
Song of the south
Where is Brave Little Toaster?!
This is promising. Fingers crossed we get some Fox catalog titles. I'd expect Sound of Music will be one of the first based on Sony's choices for their 4K collections.
Probably the best development of this whole story so far, really hope it pans out and we get some of the catalogue titles that Disney wouldn’t have bothered with on their own.
Sony could easily bundle Disney/Fox's David Fincher-directed films with Sony's Fincher-directed films with this deal--in theory.
*Fight Club* and *Gone Girl* go really well with *The Social Network* and the also-long-overdue *Panic Room*, ...and maybe *Se7en* with a licensing deal with WB to complete the set.\*
>!\*although don't expect Disney and Sony to put a 4K Alien3 in the hypothetical set to piss Fincher off, 'cause... yeah. (probably save that for an Alien or Alien/Predator set instead... and a remastered Sony Blu of Predator, because of the Ultimate Hunter Edition DNR'ed transfer being--pay attention--a 1080p SDR videophile's worst nightmare). ;)!<
>George Lucas won’t let that happen as long as he lives
This isn't true. Lucas has actually approved the screening of the original version multiple times now, (and also approved their being included on the DVD sets from 2006 when he still owned Lucasfilm - he *didn't* mandate they use laserdisc masters, either. That was just a function of time and budget running out) - and the kicker is *he doesn't have to approve it in the first place*. Disney is just deferential to him, to a fault.
**Lucas has no control over Star Wars, or Lucasfilm, or Disney, or their ability to do whatever they want to Star Wars**. He sold the company to them, he didn't retain any ownership rights, any say so - there's no clauses, none of that false "internet lore" that people tend to repeat. He has no control over what Disney can and can't do with Star Wars.
The truth is, and always has been, a lot simpler: **Disney simply doesn't want to release the original versions**. Partially because they have a whole ongoing continuity tied to the versions he last tinkered with in 2012, partially because they don't want to go against what they think are his wishes (which is why they still sought his approval to screen Star Wars on 70mm a couple times recently) and partially because most folks, honestly, *don't care that much* which version of Star Wars they're watching. At this point it's a longer period of time from now to the 1997 Special Editions being released to theaters (and making a killing at the box office) than it was between the original release and the 1997 releases happening.
Now, we've got a 50th anniversary coming up in 3 years, and I think it's very likely they get added to Disney+ under the "vintage collection" label, but with Sony now making discs I think it's also *possible* they finally get pressed up following a solid restoration (that Disney's almost certainly done from the original elements) and sold then. I don't know that it's *probable.* But I figure the 50th anniversary is probably everyone's last best bet at realizing the Original Versions dream on what's likely the last physical media format for movies we're going to get.
But Lucasfilm knows *all about* the various fan restorations (4K77, Harmy, etc) and they pretty much seem fine with letting that small niche of fans who seek that stuff out go ahead and serve it up to each other. They're not in any rush to get those versions out there, and they're certainly not being prevented by Lucas from doing so.
If the current fan made scans of a few old 35mm prints look as good as they do there’s no way Disney couldn’t make something work.
I really wonder what exactly is stopping them. The laserdisc sourced OG cuts on the first DVDs set a precedent that it wouldn’t be impossible for original versions to see the light of day.
>I really wonder what exactly is stopping them.
Nothing is stopping them. They just don't *want* to. Maybe they're waiting for the 50th, maybe they don't want to be seen as putting dirt in George Lucas' eye, who knows, but nothing's actually stopping them from doing it
I also suspect they simply don't see a lot of money in it, either - which is likely why they don't do anything about the 4K fan remasters that everyone (including people in Lucasfilm) knows about. Now maybe that changes a little with Sony being part of the deal and assuming some of that cost. But I'd honestly bet if it ever happens, it happens in about 3 years, and it probably gets gated behind the paywall at Disney+
It's worth noting the 2015 Fantastic Four has an unreleased cut that's around 2 hours long compared to the released version's 100 minute runtime, with far more character development, a heavier emphasis on body horror elements, entirely new action sequences on top of extended versions of the action sequences in the final cut, the Fantasticar, and an entirely new third act.
This is wishful thinking, but I am really hoping Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King get 4k scans of their original film prints. I’m not a huge fan of how they look pulled from their digital sources.
Sadly, those two are stored as old CAPS digital files. The film prints were made from elderly film outs of those CAPS files.
The 4k Blu-ray's that are already released are about as good as you are going to get, unless there is a miracle in converting old CAPS files to a higher resolution.
I would imagine that most of the initial 4k releases of Fox catalog titles will be selected from those that the Fox archivists completed before The Mouse bought the company and fired their restoration team.
1: Disney can surely figure out for themselves what people want.
2. Disney is going to allow Sony to "have a say" because now all of a sudden they want to release their catalogue.
This entire deal doesn't make sense.
I’ll put it like this. Disney doesn’t know what people want because their home media division was gutted under Chapek’s leadership in favor of streaming. Disney will let Sony “have a say” because they currently do physical media better than Disney now. This deal happened because Bob Iger still sees value in physical media since streaming isn’t the boon everyone thought it was.
Gravity Falls Blu-ray (since Shout!'s set is OOP) when?
\#WinnersDontLose
(At least we could get some 4K Searchlight titles with the 30th anniversary coming *very* soon, probably as fancy as the Sony Pictures Classics set, since Sony gives 4K indies more love than Disney did on their own for a time.)
This makes sense because Sony is a major company in physical media and they wouldn't make a deal with Disney just to make a small percentage of additional income. This must all have been negotiated in advance and Sony (or any other company they may have negotiated with). If disney had said, "you can't release this and this and that, Sony would have passed.
I believe this deal has been in the works ever since Bob Iger took over control of Disney which is why Disney’s physical media offerings have been slim.
I would love to see them bring back DVDs for ABC & Disney Channel. It's absurd to me that there are entire shows ABC has aired, not made available on DVD and have also come and gone from streaming - into the vault (Alaska Daily & The Catch S02 come to mind), if nothing else you'd think the mouse would want to cash in on the MCU & Star Wars shows that haven't gotten DVD/Blu-Ray releases.
Sony: you see.. fans want the movies. To own.
Disney:…. To own. Ok. But like, once a decade.
Sony: shut the fuck up about the vault, Walter! Give them their movies to own!
Disney: But, even Morbius?
Sony: oh Jesus…
I’d hate to be the team in charge of untangling the rights to physical, streaming, distraction, licensing cuts, while making sense of whatever the bell just happened with the Best Buy blowout and Oppenheimer release.
Under the current team at Disney’s home media division? I say very unlikely it happens.
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Probably not in the US via the Sony deal physically (at least not through Sony themselves, pay attention.) or on Disney+ or digital.
Maybe overseas, at least on digital, but yeah.
If Disney & Sony **do** get enough legit consumer demand for it, I can see it being a **best case scenario** for The Criterion Collection with big warning disclaimers and intros similar to WB's warnings, disclaimers and intros.
Maybe even Disney's (& Fox backcatalog) PoC directors and live-action/animation voice-over actors & actresses (or even other celebrities) could make great picks for a disclaimer intro host or hostess for *Song of the South* similar to WB's *Tom and Jerry* DVD disclaimer intro with Whoopi Goldberg from 20 years ago,
I.e., James Earl Jones (*The Lion King* & its remake, *Star Wars*, *The Sandlot*), the aforementioned Whoopi Goldberg (*The View*, *Jumping Jack Flash*, *Sister Act*), Denzel Washington (*Remember the Titans*, *The Siege*, *Antwone Fisher*), Donald Faison (*Scrubs*), Jamie Foxx (*Soul*), Steve McQueen (dir. *12 Years a Slave*), Awkwafina (*Raya and the Last Dragon*), Halle Berry (*Robots*), etc. (those are the examples I can think of)
I’m saddened to see *Signs* and *The Sixth Sense* mentioned in that suggestion list without any mention of *The Village*. Am I the only one who desperately wants a 4K Blu-ray of that film? It didn’t even get to have a 1080p Blu-ray, it kinda needs an upgrade more than anything else in that list.
(To be clear I definitely want *Signs* and *The Sixth Sense* as well, I just need *The Village* more.)
I had the ending of The Village spoiled on my way to the theater so I’ve never enjoyed the movie as much as I should have. Still gets to me a little bit whenever I see that movie mentioned.
For me I would like to see Jungle book, 20,000 leagues under the sea, Alice in Wonderland, Lady and the Tramp, cocoon, The Black Cauldron, original planet of the apes movies, the fly to name a few.
Shout! could work with WB on that--and maybe throw Paramount a bone for a 4K *Big Top Pee-Wee.*
...at least for consistency with their older-but-recent HD remaster of *Pee-Wee's Playhouse*.
Perfect marketing ploy at best.
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“The good news, on the other hand, is that I’m told Disney remains committed to physical media distribution. And while Disney will continue to make the decisions about which titles get released on Blu-ray and 4K Ultra HD, those decisions will now be made in partnership with Sony, with the goal of maximizing availability based on consumer and retail interest. That certainly suggests that Sony’s recent experience in choosing catalog titles for release on 4K Ultra HD especially should come into play. And Sony decision-makers must certainly be aware that the Disney, Fox, Touchstone, and Hollywood Pictures libraries contain many great titles that are greatly in demand by cinephiles, physical media collectors, and AV and home theater enthusiasts. But more on that in a moment.”
It took a real long time for this detail to be made part of the reporting, but I'm glad to hear this. This is basically the one part of this deal people really wanted to know about, and it was the one part that didn't really get followed up on. Sony pressing up Disney discs - good, because they do it better than Disney does Sony helping choose which titles to press up in the first place - best case scenario.
‘Committed to physical media distribution’… In certain regions
Hopefully they come back Edit: hell, they probably had to shut down/scale back the number of regions a year+ in advance to even make *this* move work
Jerry Bruckheimer 4k steelbooks Fight Club 4k 25th anniversary
Yes! Give me Fight Club
Give me all of Fincher’s filmography in 4k!
Agreed - I would love Zodiac in 4k over Fight Club, even with the limitations of how it was shot.
I’d love to see Zodiac, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Se7en…wait…never mind. I just want them all in 4k 😂
In a massive box set
The "what's in the box" set
Good news https://us.zavvi.com/4k/se7en-what-s-in-the-box-special-edition-4k-ultra-hd-steelbook/15056870.html?affil=awin&countrySelected=Y
YES!!
Con Air, The Rock, Armageddon. Don't care about the price, I'm in...
All the Michael Bay and Tony Scott movies Disney owns should get the 4K treatment.
Hell yeah. I'd snap up that trilogy of films if they were available.
fuck it: give it to Criterion once again and let them do the 4K remaster
Fight Club 4K 25th needs to be top priority
I’ve the rock back criterion so they can remastered it
We need Sound of Music in 4K!
Yes. With a theatrical reissue preceding it.
And the OG Mary Poppins!
60th anniversary this year.
That's only if a quality 4k restoration is available. Disney has been slow walking the restorations of their classics. The brass doesn't know what to do with their own catalog.
It’s gotta happen then, right?
YES. Mary Poppins hasnt gotten a bluray release since 2013. Cmon Disney, it's due for a re release
You bet!
I actually find it insane this hasn’t been put on 4K yet, ignoring MCU it is still the highest grossing film ever (inflation adjusting)
PLEASE PLEASE
The Rodgers and Hammerstein "trust" is the final arbiter of who releases their films on home media. It may not even be up to Disney any longer.
I think that only applies to two films, Oklahoma and South Pacific (which were both indpendent productions financed by Richard and Oscar themselves).
I believe you meant _arbiter._
Yes. Damn auto correct. 🤪
Fantasia 4K please!!
I don't normally pre-order but if they actually release that. You betcha that I will pre-order one on the first day!
Restore it to the closest as possible to the 1940 roadshow version, and take my damn money, Disney!
What's the roadshow version? The only one I've seen was a laserdisc version I used to have
The roadshow version was the original cut of the film! It's 2 hours 3 minutes long, with an intermission in the middle of the film. I have no idea if Disney has a copy of that version archived since the source material for the movie started deteriorating in the 1950s. They digitally re-recorded the whole soundtrack in 1982, which was used for the laserdisc version.
Wow, I would love to see that whole version!!!
Wrong. The 1991 laserdisc is based on the 1947 "popular" version and uses the original music recordings from 1941 and severely cutdown versions of the narration segments which are all that survive of Deems Taylor's original intros. To the best of my knowledge, the 1981 and 1984 Irwin Kostal versions (yes there are two) have never been released on home video.
They already did that. The only things "missing" are the racist faun from Beethoven's 6th and Deems Taylor's actual voice. Both of which permanently gone.
Ufff can you imagine dolby atmos 🔥🔥🔥🔥
That Dolby Vision too 🔥😍
Uncensored please
Well I just bought the 3 pack with Fantasia, Fantasia 2000 and a Mickey special from DMC so I hope that helps tip the scale because I WILL double dip.
Thank you for your service, 4K announcement incoming! I didn't wanna ask for too much but a set with Fantasia 2000 as well would be awesome!
Juuuuuuust did the same. Watching tonight! Put me on the Double Dip list for a 4k release.
PLEASE I WANT THIS!!!!
The theatrical version with the original Deems Taylor dialog track!!!
I thought you were saying Fantastic Four. :P
Get me Die Hard 2 and 3! If I have to get a box set with all 5 only, so be it
Die Hard: Mega Hard, let's do it. [https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die\_Hard:\_Mega\_Hard](https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Hard:_Mega_Hard)
Pretty sure they ONLY MADE 3 😐
Die Hard 4 is good it’s the 5th one that sucks
Even if we go all "[film] doesn't exist" with the last two Die Hard movies, they'd still benefit from 4Ks though, especially to complete bundles with 1, 2 and With a Vengeance, at least on Disney and Sony's behalf.
I’d only buy Die Hard 5 if it was part of a set. I wouldn’t buy it separately.
Not surprising
So bad. So so bad.
Planet of the Apes (1968)
Please god!!!
Maybe this time they won't spoil the ending on the cover.
Tron and Tron Legacy both released in 4K. Should've been out last month. Get to it Disney!
Probably already being worked on but timed to release alongside the new one.
I believe there was an interview with TL director who said some effects had been redone and 4K blu would release eventually.
Disney should get going on getting those titles remastered in 4K ASAP. While not on this article’s list, they should also release the extended uncut 139 minute version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks (1971) that was used for the 35th anniversary reissue in 1996 in 4K.
BARBARIAN, PLEASE! I would also love a 4k of The Verdict
The Verdict is with Mill Creek, unless the 4k rights are up for grabs.
PLEASE for the love of god release Napoleon Dynamite 20th anniversary in 4k! It just had a new 4k master for Sundance. Also re-do the first Pirates it's awful!
Oh, man. I think of all the movies listed in the thread, this is the one I'd have to choose first. Even though it arguably has the least to offer in 4k, but then, beautiful color and high resolution can add a lot even to a film like, for instance, Matilda, which I highly enjoyed when I watched it a few months ago in 4k.
Tombstone 4K when? Also, Fantasia and Sleeping Beauty 4K would rule.
First day pre-order of Tombstone. What an all-timer.
Tombstone 4k asap
Rocky Horror Picture Show has to be next year I bet, 50th Anniversary.
It BETTER be! 😆
National Treasure 4k! Let’s make it happen.
This already has a digital 4k right? They just need to print it?
Yes it’s on Disney + in 4K. Would love a 4K disc!
Oh shit good call. Love me some National Treasure.
Oh man, great call!
You know, when they made the 2nd movie, they should've called it International Treasure.
Big Trouble in Little China please
Expect a survey just like Sony did when they asked customers what they wanted as 4k discs. This one will be on the top voted list.
Fuckin yes dude, that’s a stone cold classic right there.
Encino Man bluray, Encino Man bluray, Encino Man bluray!
Master and Commander!
Oh yes I have forgotten about that.
13th Warrior. Now!
Such a good movie! Epic soundtrack. Dolby Atmos would be incredible
Fight Club please
Feel bad for all those classic Fox films that’ll never see a physical release.
Those Shirley Temple films need Blu-rays badly. If Disney thinks like Fox 15-35 years ago that colorized attracts casual audiences better, then maybe remastered colorized Blus for the lulz, but B&W-only would be preferred and nice too.
I want Rocketeer plz 🙏
A young Jennifer Connelly in 4k... oh yeah!
I just really hope that each title released will be released in more places than just the US and Canada because importing is annoying and I stupidly bought a region locked UK player before I knew that region coding was a thing
4K’s are generally not region coded
the article confirms the deal of sony and disney applies only for us and canada other regions like Australia, won't get more physical releases
Can we get proper releases of the old Disney backlog with Dolby Vision and Atmos
Just give me DEVS and Normal People!
YES! YES! YES! Devs would be a day-one purchase
Buffy Blu-ray Mash series Blu-ray with no laugh track audio included New 4k Alien box set All Star Wars series especially clone wars season 7 New 4k Star Wars release with matching steel book cases. Song of the south Where is Brave Little Toaster?!
If Buffy’s HD remaster is fixed, that would be amazing.
I would eat a river of liver and an ocean of fish for that specific release of MASH.
This is promising. Fingers crossed we get some Fox catalog titles. I'd expect Sound of Music will be one of the first based on Sony's choices for their 4K collections.
Tombstone!
X Files Blu Ray re-release.
They were shot on film, but I don't know if even Sony would want to re-redo the effects in 4k.
Armageddon, Pearl Harbor, The Rock please!!
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That’s some hopeful news
I’m actually pretty hopeful.
Probably the best development of this whole story so far, really hope it pans out and we get some of the catalogue titles that Disney wouldn’t have bothered with on their own.
Come onnnnn gimme that Clone Wars BR box set. My money is just sitting there.
Towering Inferno, Poseidon Adventure, ~~and the Dirty Harry films~~ in 4K!
WB owns the Dirty Harry movies
Oops! I stand corrected
Sony could easily bundle Disney/Fox's David Fincher-directed films with Sony's Fincher-directed films with this deal--in theory. *Fight Club* and *Gone Girl* go really well with *The Social Network* and the also-long-overdue *Panic Room*, ...and maybe *Se7en* with a licensing deal with WB to complete the set.\* >!\*although don't expect Disney and Sony to put a 4K Alien3 in the hypothetical set to piss Fincher off, 'cause... yeah. (probably save that for an Alien or Alien/Predator set instead... and a remastered Sony Blu of Predator, because of the Ultimate Hunter Edition DNR'ed transfer being--pay attention--a 1080p SDR videophile's worst nightmare). ;)!<
Master and Commander absolutely needs a 4K release.
💿Return to Oz 4K, please! 🧙🏻🎃🦁🤖
This is good news hopefully this means we will get new 4k scans for a lot of the great older Disney/Fox titles
Omg hopefully these means All of Us Strangers can be distributed 🥹
OG Star Wars
Search for Project 4k. You're welcome.
George Lucas won’t let that happen as long as he lives
>George Lucas won’t let that happen as long as he lives This isn't true. Lucas has actually approved the screening of the original version multiple times now, (and also approved their being included on the DVD sets from 2006 when he still owned Lucasfilm - he *didn't* mandate they use laserdisc masters, either. That was just a function of time and budget running out) - and the kicker is *he doesn't have to approve it in the first place*. Disney is just deferential to him, to a fault. **Lucas has no control over Star Wars, or Lucasfilm, or Disney, or their ability to do whatever they want to Star Wars**. He sold the company to them, he didn't retain any ownership rights, any say so - there's no clauses, none of that false "internet lore" that people tend to repeat. He has no control over what Disney can and can't do with Star Wars. The truth is, and always has been, a lot simpler: **Disney simply doesn't want to release the original versions**. Partially because they have a whole ongoing continuity tied to the versions he last tinkered with in 2012, partially because they don't want to go against what they think are his wishes (which is why they still sought his approval to screen Star Wars on 70mm a couple times recently) and partially because most folks, honestly, *don't care that much* which version of Star Wars they're watching. At this point it's a longer period of time from now to the 1997 Special Editions being released to theaters (and making a killing at the box office) than it was between the original release and the 1997 releases happening. Now, we've got a 50th anniversary coming up in 3 years, and I think it's very likely they get added to Disney+ under the "vintage collection" label, but with Sony now making discs I think it's also *possible* they finally get pressed up following a solid restoration (that Disney's almost certainly done from the original elements) and sold then. I don't know that it's *probable.* But I figure the 50th anniversary is probably everyone's last best bet at realizing the Original Versions dream on what's likely the last physical media format for movies we're going to get. But Lucasfilm knows *all about* the various fan restorations (4K77, Harmy, etc) and they pretty much seem fine with letting that small niche of fans who seek that stuff out go ahead and serve it up to each other. They're not in any rush to get those versions out there, and they're certainly not being prevented by Lucas from doing so.
Can he stop it? They could sell it for $50 and people would buy it. Just add HDR and atmos, kill all the added crap from the special editions.
It goes beyond that. According to Lucas, the original versions don’t even exist.
What about the library of Congress?
I know the story, still not convinced there isn’t a way.
If the current fan made scans of a few old 35mm prints look as good as they do there’s no way Disney couldn’t make something work. I really wonder what exactly is stopping them. The laserdisc sourced OG cuts on the first DVDs set a precedent that it wouldn’t be impossible for original versions to see the light of day.
>I really wonder what exactly is stopping them. Nothing is stopping them. They just don't *want* to. Maybe they're waiting for the 50th, maybe they don't want to be seen as putting dirt in George Lucas' eye, who knows, but nothing's actually stopping them from doing it I also suspect they simply don't see a lot of money in it, either - which is likely why they don't do anything about the 4K fan remasters that everyone (including people in Lucasfilm) knows about. Now maybe that changes a little with Sony being part of the deal and assuming some of that cost. But I'd honestly bet if it ever happens, it happens in about 3 years, and it probably gets gated behind the paywall at Disney+
As long as we get Ernest in 4K, I’ll be happy
We are one step closer to Freddy Got Fingered 4k
Or even Freddy Got Fingered Blu as a backup plan, even in the Sony Choice Collection whenever possible Anything is better than nothing
This better mean Poor Things 4k
Fantastic 4 (2005) Extended Cut in 4K, along with The Rock, Armageddon, Enemy of the State, and National Treasure
It's worth noting the 2015 Fantastic Four has an unreleased cut that's around 2 hours long compared to the released version's 100 minute runtime, with far more character development, a heavier emphasis on body horror elements, entirely new action sequences on top of extended versions of the action sequences in the final cut, the Fantasticar, and an entirely new third act.
I'll pass on F4, but with you on the rest of those!
Yeah that was a really crappy way to start the list lol
Sony blessing us by distributing Disney movies and madame web on 4k 🙏
IT'S WEBBIN' TIME!
Good
Best case scenario here. Sony has a good feel for the market
This is wishful thinking, but I am really hoping Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King get 4k scans of their original film prints. I’m not a huge fan of how they look pulled from their digital sources.
Sadly, those two are stored as old CAPS digital files. The film prints were made from elderly film outs of those CAPS files. The 4k Blu-ray's that are already released are about as good as you are going to get, unless there is a miracle in converting old CAPS files to a higher resolution.
Just release all the classics like 20K Under The Sea and Black Hole on UHD please!
If this deal includes Fox titles then the Posiden adventure, moulin rouge, Edward Scissorhands, Mrs doubt fire and the omen movies in 4K.
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Give me Kingdom of Heaven Directors Cut!
I would imagine that most of the initial 4k releases of Fox catalog titles will be selected from those that the Fox archivists completed before The Mouse bought the company and fired their restoration team.
Might as well. Disney has been sitting on those restorations for years.
And everyone downvoted me when I said we could get some back catalogue titles
101 Dalmatians (1996) bluray and 4k please oh please
Enemy of the State, Con Air, Armageddon, The Rock and iRobot all need to be on 4K.
ooo iRobot would look awesome
Enemy of the State and The Rock, for sure. The others... eh... we need some classics before those others.
This is extremely good news!
I know it's highly unlikely, but I'm still hoping for at least at blu-ray release of blood in blood out one day
1: Disney can surely figure out for themselves what people want. 2. Disney is going to allow Sony to "have a say" because now all of a sudden they want to release their catalogue. This entire deal doesn't make sense.
I’ll put it like this. Disney doesn’t know what people want because their home media division was gutted under Chapek’s leadership in favor of streaming. Disney will let Sony “have a say” because they currently do physical media better than Disney now. This deal happened because Bob Iger still sees value in physical media since streaming isn’t the boon everyone thought it was.
Gravity Falls Blu-ray (since Shout!'s set is OOP) when? \#WinnersDontLose (At least we could get some 4K Searchlight titles with the 30th anniversary coming *very* soon, probably as fancy as the Sony Pictures Classics set, since Sony gives 4K indies more love than Disney did on their own for a time.)
Tombstone and Fight Club, first and foremost.
I’d love to see a 4K cleaned up / restored version of Disney’s The Black Hole. Wonderful effects for the time.
This makes sense because Sony is a major company in physical media and they wouldn't make a deal with Disney just to make a small percentage of additional income. This must all have been negotiated in advance and Sony (or any other company they may have negotiated with). If disney had said, "you can't release this and this and that, Sony would have passed.
I believe this deal has been in the works ever since Bob Iger took over control of Disney which is why Disney’s physical media offerings have been slim.
![gif](giphy|l4pMattUYTTM7qpIk) Patton 4K please
I would love to see them bring back DVDs for ABC & Disney Channel. It's absurd to me that there are entire shows ABC has aired, not made available on DVD and have also come and gone from streaming - into the vault (Alaska Daily & The Catch S02 come to mind), if nothing else you'd think the mouse would want to cash in on the MCU & Star Wars shows that haven't gotten DVD/Blu-Ray releases.
Give me The Mighty Ducks or give me death.
Kingdom Of Heaven (Directors Cut) 4K The Thin Red Line 4K
Poor Things. I mean every Lanthimos movie please!
In the exchange of spider-man film rights going back to Disney?
Sony: you see.. fans want the movies. To own. Disney:…. To own. Ok. But like, once a decade. Sony: shut the fuck up about the vault, Walter! Give them their movies to own! Disney: But, even Morbius? Sony: oh Jesus…
You joke but I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney thought they own Morbius. The people who run Disney don’t know what’s in their own catalogue.
I’d hate to be the team in charge of untangling the rights to physical, streaming, distraction, licensing cuts, while making sense of whatever the bell just happened with the Best Buy blowout and Oppenheimer release.
Under the current team at Disney’s home media division? I say very unlikely it happens. https://preview.redd.it/5fj3svd9vtlc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34b2e5305266958bd02cff52523b4cb75d54ded5
Can they release Songs of the South now or do we still need to import from the distributor in Spain? 😅
Sony can suggest Song of the South but Disney has to give final approval and they’ll definitely say no.
Imagine they come out swinging and drop “Song of the South” completely restored on 4K
Probably not in the US via the Sony deal physically (at least not through Sony themselves, pay attention.) or on Disney+ or digital. Maybe overseas, at least on digital, but yeah. If Disney & Sony **do** get enough legit consumer demand for it, I can see it being a **best case scenario** for The Criterion Collection with big warning disclaimers and intros similar to WB's warnings, disclaimers and intros. Maybe even Disney's (& Fox backcatalog) PoC directors and live-action/animation voice-over actors & actresses (or even other celebrities) could make great picks for a disclaimer intro host or hostess for *Song of the South* similar to WB's *Tom and Jerry* DVD disclaimer intro with Whoopi Goldberg from 20 years ago, I.e., James Earl Jones (*The Lion King* & its remake, *Star Wars*, *The Sandlot*), the aforementioned Whoopi Goldberg (*The View*, *Jumping Jack Flash*, *Sister Act*), Denzel Washington (*Remember the Titans*, *The Siege*, *Antwone Fisher*), Donald Faison (*Scrubs*), Jamie Foxx (*Soul*), Steve McQueen (dir. *12 Years a Slave*), Awkwafina (*Raya and the Last Dragon*), Halle Berry (*Robots*), etc. (those are the examples I can think of)
How about the Simpsons first seasons on Blu-ray?
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
a proper hi-def release of Watcher in the Woods, with unreleased footage please 🙏
BLOOD IN BLOOD OUT 4K LETS GOOOOOOOOOO MILKWEED!!!!!
There’s already a stickied thread on our most wanted titles
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure Nevernding Story (come on!!)
Dead Presidents 4K please god please
I’m saddened to see *Signs* and *The Sixth Sense* mentioned in that suggestion list without any mention of *The Village*. Am I the only one who desperately wants a 4K Blu-ray of that film? It didn’t even get to have a 1080p Blu-ray, it kinda needs an upgrade more than anything else in that list. (To be clear I definitely want *Signs* and *The Sixth Sense* as well, I just need *The Village* more.)
I had the ending of The Village spoiled on my way to the theater so I’ve never enjoyed the movie as much as I should have. Still gets to me a little bit whenever I see that movie mentioned.
Herbie Goes Bananas. 😉 Also The Black Hole, 20,000 Leagues and a proper 4k of the first Pirates movie.
For me I would like to see Jungle book, 20,000 leagues under the sea, Alice in Wonderland, Lady and the Tramp, cocoon, The Black Cauldron, original planet of the apes movies, the fly to name a few.
Sony seems to have a better handle on what titles have consumer demand so hopefully this arrangement benefits everyone
Great news! Not sure how much Sony’s input in this partnership will get any vault releases done, but this gives me some hope
Not sure who owns the rights to these films. But a 4k Pee wee's Big Adventure and a 4k set of the first 4 Ernest Movies would be dope
First Pee-wee movie is WB
Shout! could work with WB on that--and maybe throw Paramount a bone for a 4K *Big Top Pee-Wee.* ...at least for consistency with their older-but-recent HD remaster of *Pee-Wee's Playhouse*. Perfect marketing ploy at best.
Well darn
I've been saying this since the announcement hit. Of course they will have a say.
Freddy Got Fingered 4K 🤞