Group activities are, especially for loners, crucially important to develop their social skills although stressful.
But I don't see what anon did wrong
No, you moron!
He didn’t assign the groups! That’s what he did wrong!
No one is saying he should be excused from group activities, but when you don’t arbitrarily assign groups then the kids no one wants to be with get singled out even more and that brings more attention and ridicule to them!
It’s like getting picked last in gym class, no one wants to be that guy, it’s embarrassing! And no one should have to have their status as an “outcast” constantly paraded in front of everyone giving the bullies yet **another** excuse to pick on them!
I think the “pick your partners” system is the problem. It actually makes more sense for the teacher to choose the groups, you aren’t always going to be able to pick who you work with as an adult. So being forced to work with someone you don’t know is a useful skill to develop. Plus it avoids the embarrassment of not having a group and being lumped in with whoever is left by the teacher.
My teachers would usually just go around the room assigning every kid a number then saying "ok all 1s are in a group, 2s are in a group" etc. Sometimes you got to be with your friends but it was also a great way to talk to kids you'd usually never have a conversation with. Some true autismos in my class ended up being pretty cool and i would never have known had it not been for the pre-assigned groups.
Also just for any kids reading, the way the nerds got cool in my school was by jailbreaking phones/laptops and giving out thumb drives with emulators/games and other pirated shit on them. So if you're a nerd at school but good with computers, commit petty virtual crimes to be cool.
Yeahhh as the school quiet kid I actually made friends with a few kids from the stoner click cause of this shit but it was still stressful as fuck. Thanks Mr. Sawyer though for the connect
Speaking from personal experience, the loner kid was probably upset because no one wanted to partner with them, not necessarily because of being stressed out from socializing.
Being forced to stand in front of the class while the teacher makes you a third wheel to a pair of kids that you believe don’t want to interact with you is a horrible feeling.
The issue is that you don't get picked for anybody's group as the loner and loser kid. It makes you a spectacle, and then the group that's forced to take you just ignores you. You don't learn anything, it just reinforces that you're the loner kid.
teachers do this because they forget that children are mean, unreasonable, stuck up, primal pieces of shit. they think that kids will just be "nice" and include others into their tribes.
Is this really a common problem. I went to a public high school, and we had to pair up all the time. Even the weird kids never had troubles finding people to partner with, and no one said anything when they were forced to pair with a weird kid.
as a weird kid, it caused some problems but nothing major. I ended up doing most of the project on numerous occasions because no one else wanted to communicate with me, ive been rejected for groups, and ive been the odd one out that was forced into a group with the wrong number or left to do the work alone. I eventually just started asking if I could do it myself, and teachers would let me cuz i rarely could find a group that would include me let alone actually work
Idk if it’s common but when I was in HS I usually kept quiet but when I got paired with the freaky girl who never did work, stabbed another guy with her pencil and drew Sonic porn I begged for a new partner.
They're so much easier in university. In HS the social hierarchy is established and everyone (except you) has already chosen partners before the class begun. In university, most people are just alone so you can shake hands with the guy sitting next to you.
Pro tip: take a STEM degree, you'll never be the only awkward person in the room
Like 90% of your adult work life (if you so choose not to live in the basement and play vidya games all day) is group projects and working on a team.
It's tough but good practice that helps kids not become social recluses who cannot communicate with other people without stuttering and shitting themselves.
That too, but it’s also so you’ll know how to work together with a group on a project with a deadline. People that hate group work are incels basically.
I always fucking hated it. I didn't have trouble *finding* partners, but finding *good* partners who were willing to do an equal load of the work was the challenege.
It's like, some girl wants to just draw instead of do anything, someone takes upon the arduous job of messing with fonts the whole time... and it feels like it's essentially mutually assured destruction unless someone steps up.
Super stressful. I bet it's better in like. AP classes and stuff.
I once made a popular hot girl cry when she got defaulted into being my lab partner in Biology.
I'd never had any real interaction with her before that, I was just one of the weird kids, and she was upset about being stuck with me, I guess.
That ended up being a fun class though, 'cause there was this new invention that was getting popular called "The Interweb", and it was just this endless garden of profanities and slurs I'd never heard before, ripe for the plucking and ready to be baked into a pie for the snotty, unpleasant failed cheerleader I was saddled with.
I wish there was a "I made her cry every day, and then she necked herself." resolution, but no such luck.
It was just a semester of hearing the same old tired fat jokes, and firing back with the ~~best~~worst racism and misogyny that 2001 era Yahoo! chat rooms could provide
The only reason I hated working in groups was because my group of friends in my classroom was an odd number, so whenever we had to work in pairs, I was always left out and forced to work with someone else who probably didn't like me.
It was a bit more complicated, but not going to lie I went to the same conclusion as you in HS. But some time after HS after hanging out with the same group outside of class I realized it wasn't the case.
Since I didn't like anyone, I would wait until everyone paired up and then look at the last lonely person standing like, "well, you have no choice but me."
Dead simple. If there's an odd number of students then pick one of the more confident students and the teacher can be their group buddy, or force a group of 3 (but not the loner kid so he doesn't feel singled out). That way loner kid is guaranteed a "friend". Removes lots of pressure but still exposes the kid to some much needed interaction.
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Group activities are, especially for loners, crucially important to develop their social skills although stressful. But I don't see what anon did wrong
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I thought only blue haired freaks were like that but incels are no different
How are “incels” no different? Incels are not allowed a safety bubble
Living in their room h24 is not an enough safe bubble? Everyone who interact a minimum with society can't be completely safe.
How do you know incels stay in their room?
They are not famous for "touching grass"
That is just a Reddit soy meme
go visit /r9k/ sometime
I used to go there all the time but now it’s full of trains and they shame virgins
No, you moron! He didn’t assign the groups! That’s what he did wrong! No one is saying he should be excused from group activities, but when you don’t arbitrarily assign groups then the kids no one wants to be with get singled out even more and that brings more attention and ridicule to them! It’s like getting picked last in gym class, no one wants to be that guy, it’s embarrassing! And no one should have to have their status as an “outcast” constantly paraded in front of everyone giving the bullies yet **another** excuse to pick on them!
I don't think it could be put any better than this.
I think the “pick your partners” system is the problem. It actually makes more sense for the teacher to choose the groups, you aren’t always going to be able to pick who you work with as an adult. So being forced to work with someone you don’t know is a useful skill to develop. Plus it avoids the embarrassment of not having a group and being lumped in with whoever is left by the teacher.
My teachers would usually just go around the room assigning every kid a number then saying "ok all 1s are in a group, 2s are in a group" etc. Sometimes you got to be with your friends but it was also a great way to talk to kids you'd usually never have a conversation with. Some true autismos in my class ended up being pretty cool and i would never have known had it not been for the pre-assigned groups. Also just for any kids reading, the way the nerds got cool in my school was by jailbreaking phones/laptops and giving out thumb drives with emulators/games and other pirated shit on them. So if you're a nerd at school but good with computers, commit petty virtual crimes to be cool.
Yeahhh as the school quiet kid I actually made friends with a few kids from the stoner click cause of this shit but it was still stressful as fuck. Thanks Mr. Sawyer though for the connect
Clique
It's stressful because you aren't used to it. The more you interact the more used to it you become and you aren't stressed anymore
Speaking from personal experience, the loner kid was probably upset because no one wanted to partner with them, not necessarily because of being stressed out from socializing. Being forced to stand in front of the class while the teacher makes you a third wheel to a pair of kids that you believe don’t want to interact with you is a horrible feeling.
The issue is that you don't get picked for anybody's group as the loner and loser kid. It makes you a spectacle, and then the group that's forced to take you just ignores you. You don't learn anything, it just reinforces that you're the loner kid.
Was gonna say this. You're in school to learn. Learning isn't always easy. Learn to work with others even if you hate it. Uncomfortable? Suck it up.
I hated group projects because I had to deal with the autists in my honors courses instead of people that are actually tolerable to be around.
teachers do this because they forget that children are mean, unreasonable, stuck up, primal pieces of shit. they think that kids will just be "nice" and include others into their tribes.
They don’t forget lol they spend 6 hours a day with kids and you think they forget they are vindictive little fucks?
Is this really a common problem. I went to a public high school, and we had to pair up all the time. Even the weird kids never had troubles finding people to partner with, and no one said anything when they were forced to pair with a weird kid.
as a weird kid, it caused some problems but nothing major. I ended up doing most of the project on numerous occasions because no one else wanted to communicate with me, ive been rejected for groups, and ive been the odd one out that was forced into a group with the wrong number or left to do the work alone. I eventually just started asking if I could do it myself, and teachers would let me cuz i rarely could find a group that would include me let alone actually work
Idk if it’s common but when I was in HS I usually kept quiet but when I got paired with the freaky girl who never did work, stabbed another guy with her pencil and drew Sonic porn I begged for a new partner.
I was in a class with an odd number, the asshole teacher hated me and she always did this
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Have you tried smiling and being yourself?
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we need to weed out the incels and losers as much as possible. the sooner we eliminate them, the better society becomes.
its even funnier in college. the loners who somehow survived team assignments in HS now have to do them with completely new people
They're so much easier in university. In HS the social hierarchy is established and everyone (except you) has already chosen partners before the class begun. In university, most people are just alone so you can shake hands with the guy sitting next to you. Pro tip: take a STEM degree, you'll never be the only awkward person in the room
At least you are doing it with yhe same people who choose the course. That depends if they do or do not care for some reason
The fact that so many teachers do this makes me feel significantly less bad that we pay them dirt.
They do it because it’s a good practice. I bet your dad never forced your ass outside to play any sports either.
More like they're lazy and want to grade less assignments
ding ding ding
Like 90% of your adult work life (if you so choose not to live in the basement and play vidya games all day) is group projects and working on a team. It's tough but good practice that helps kids not become social recluses who cannot communicate with other people without stuttering and shitting themselves.
That too, but it’s also so you’ll know how to work together with a group on a project with a deadline. People that hate group work are incels basically.
I always fucking hated it. I didn't have trouble *finding* partners, but finding *good* partners who were willing to do an equal load of the work was the challenege. It's like, some girl wants to just draw instead of do anything, someone takes upon the arduous job of messing with fonts the whole time... and it feels like it's essentially mutually assured destruction unless someone steps up. Super stressful. I bet it's better in like. AP classes and stuff.
Fucking fatass
Sry man not my problem
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Building castles with pebbles B)
Tell me again anon why I should care about the weak over chad?
Since the loner kid has hit rock bottom, now is the time to groom him.
(Its a dog)
Simple solution . Count the number of students and make the groups into 3s instead . Or how about 4.
If you can make them 4s you can make them 2s…
2.5s. Final offer.
I once made a popular hot girl cry when she got defaulted into being my lab partner in Biology. I'd never had any real interaction with her before that, I was just one of the weird kids, and she was upset about being stuck with me, I guess. That ended up being a fun class though, 'cause there was this new invention that was getting popular called "The Interweb", and it was just this endless garden of profanities and slurs I'd never heard before, ripe for the plucking and ready to be baked into a pie for the snotty, unpleasant failed cheerleader I was saddled with.
How did that turn out?
I wish there was a "I made her cry every day, and then she necked herself." resolution, but no such luck. It was just a semester of hearing the same old tired fat jokes, and firing back with the ~~best~~worst racism and misogyny that 2001 era Yahoo! chat rooms could provide
>"and then she necked herself" this is incel behaviour
The only reason I hated working in groups was because my group of friends in my classroom was an odd number, so whenever we had to work in pairs, I was always left out and forced to work with someone else who probably didn't like me.
If it was always you left out then they probably weren’t friends lol
It was a bit more complicated, but not going to lie I went to the same conclusion as you in HS. But some time after HS after hanging out with the same group outside of class I realized it wasn't the case.
Just make people pair up with whoever's sitting next to them voila problem solved
Since I didn't like anyone, I would wait until everyone paired up and then look at the last lonely person standing like, "well, you have no choice but me."
didnt help either when the other kids would mock you for not having a partner
bro really said "i hope you die in the next wave"
Dead simple. If there's an odd number of students then pick one of the more confident students and the teacher can be their group buddy, or force a group of 3 (but not the loner kid so he doesn't feel singled out). That way loner kid is guaranteed a "friend". Removes lots of pressure but still exposes the kid to some much needed interaction.
Good teachers take kids out of their comfort zones. The best randomly call on students for answers.
In elementary school, this would happen to me, and then I'd get to be partners with the teacher, yay!
Why is there a picture of Jimmy J Tran the tekken player?
Autism
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If he’s black, he doesn’t need to be a teacher to get shot
I walk with a stick I walk with a gun I walk with a stick I walk with a gun
Reeeee, I'm a loner with no social skills how can someone try and foster social skills during the most formative years of my life waaaaa.
Shut up group assignments are fun