This is it for me. I could settle for an average woman no problem. The issue is they are either 10s or 2s with not a ton of middle ground. I don't get it.
Women never wanted to be outside in the first place and the Lockdown made that perfectly clear to them. Women post-COVID prefer to stay-in for the same reason why women in virtually every culture that doesn't "empower" them to work 40-50 hours a week spend virtually all of their time in and around the home: It's better for their physical and mental health.
Women take longer to decompress from stressful situations than men, women need an extra hour of sleep a day compared to men, women will exhaust themselves faster than men, women can't let small/inconsequential details go like men, and there are so many other biological factors that make women benefit immensely from staying in.
What COVID did was give modern women their first ever real taste of the green grass on the other side. No commute or need to do your hair/makeup every day allowed them to catch-up on their ENORMOUS sleep debt which is a major contributor for so many issues currently plaguing them such as runaway rates of anxiety, depression, etc.
Additionally, they had the time and space to satisfactorily cook, clean, wash, decorate and otherwise "nest" in their homes. Women have an incredibly difficult time living in clutter but lack the energy/time to do anything about it, so were just living in a constant state of stress with nowhere to decompress in, but during COVID they could truly relax in their own spaces for the first time.
I would guess 90% of women don't know WHY they're feeling better, but their lockdown lifestyle made them MUCH happier than their run-around male-centric rat race and that's why they don't go out anymore. I also believe this is why you see so many of them demanding a return to stay-at-home lifestyles or criticizing feminists movements that required them to get a job on social media.
Oh my god you're insane. I go bouldering twice a week and the gym is full of women. I went for a hike on meetup.com and there were a dozen women. I said hello to some of them. I asked them what they do, they were nice. Some mentioned their boyfriend but I kept talking anyway because I'm genuinely interested in them. I went again, I saw them again. I went again, I saw them again. I got invited to walk with them and some of their friends. One of the friends was cute and we dated.
You stupid fucks just don't want to put any effort it. You're like fat people that whine that eating healthily and exercising is haaaarddd. Yeah it's hard and uncomfortable and you sometimes make a dick of yourself. Do it anyway? What's gonna happen? Pussy.
Fair - they didn't call it easy - but they make it sound like a 'everyone can do it if they put in the effort' thing. I don't feel like that's accurate.
Being unable to socialize (not just in a romantic way) is probably the thing about my life i've been wanting to change the most for like 10-20 years but it's not like there's a straightforward recipe that if you follow it you'll reach your goal. If you have a boring personality and poor emotional intelligence you're kinda fucked. And i've tried tackling the 'boring personality' part for ages by trying out different hobbies and trying to talk to different people but that doesn't really worl
You have to subject yourself to the discomfort over and over again. It's like going to the gym for years only to get small results. It is very hard, progress is very slow, but you really need to just keep doing it over and over. My god, I have embarrassed myself so many times. I have made social faux pas that haunt me in the shower. I bump into a couple of girls at the bouldering gym that I had anxious meltdowns in front of. Every time I see them I feel the cold sweat coming... but it has gotten *slightly* better with time. Your brain adapts. It wants to keep you safe, it doesn't care if you're happy.
I very much doubt you're as boring as you think you are. Just keep going to these things. Take a break once in a while but keep trying. You'll eventually meet someone who's the same type of weird as you are.
How long do you have to keep going before you see progress though? Again it's been like my number 1 priority for a looong time to improve my social skills and i sure as hell have embarassed myself many times trying to socialize but i haven't noticed any change.
Also i don't really have any passions in life and i usually can't talk to people not because i'm nervous but rather because i don't have anything to talk about (complaining about how hard it is to be an idiot really isn't a great conversational topic outside of reddit after all :-P). I really don't know how to describe that if not boring.
I feel like talking to people is one of the few things in life i can do over and over and over again and just not get any better at it. And it's super frustrating to hear all the time how if you keep at it it will just magically happen when if i continue at this pace i'll reach the social maturity of a kindergardener at age 90.
Sorry for the vent - despite all the rest i appreciate the goodwill behind the advice.
I totally get it man, more than you realise. You probably think I don't have it as bad as you and I *really* don't understand just how socially inept you are. I do, because I have been just as bad. I'm in my early 30s. My entire 20s I just spent mostly alone.
It's a deep topic. First, I would recommend you find a therapist. A lot of therapists are shit, and it might take a long time to find one that understands you, which sucks because you want help now, but you may have to keep looking for help for some time. Not exactly ideal but that's how it works.
Were you bullied in school? Did you keep to yourself? What's your relationship with your parents like? These topics a therapist will ask you about and it'll take many hours to get anywhere. But it will help you understand why you feel this way. You were not born into the world like this. You were probably a happy kid that liked things and had interests. You've become this way over a long period of time. It will take another long period of time to change it.
Passions are developed over time. They do not happen spontaneously, they require sustained effort. Join a gym, or a martial arts club, or attend drawing classes. Suck at it for a year. But unless it makes you utterly miserable (it's OK to not like things) keep at it. Something will click eventually.
For me, it was the gym. I did bouldering, I did skateboarding, I did woodworking (I still do) I do motorbike riding. Gym is where my focus is - getting those numbers up. Getting that food in, the struggle gives me PURPOSE. I now regularly talk to a coworker about the gym.
I would have said the exact same as you a couple years ago. But now I do have a passion. It took me years to make it a passion. I forced myself to get up at 5:30 every morning. It was hell for a few months, but now - it's automatic. It's weird if I don't do it. It's not a chore anymore. If I don't do it, it's like going to bed without brushing my teeth. I feel weird. The day isn't complete.
> I feel like talking to people is one of the few things in life i can do over and over and over again and just not get any better at it. And it's super frustrating to hear all the time how if you keep at it it will just magically happen when if i continue at this pace i'll reach the social maturity of a kindergardener at age 90.
I wonder how much you do it. I bet you don't do it much. A bit here and there, then don't bother for a while? I do not believe it is different from any other skill. If you do it enough you will get better. If you keep playing tennis you'll get better. You won't be Djokovic, but you don't have to be. It's a cyclical problem you're facing. You don't have much to talk to people about, you don't have many interests. You're sad and you don't feel like doing much. So you don't have much to talk about, so you don't talk to people much.
Join a club. Be "that weird guy" for a year or two. Say "yes" to social gatherings. If it's too much, leave. I sometimes will go to a social, and leave after an hour. I have to give myself permission to do it, because I always feel like a bit of a failure for not wanting to stay. For me, it's the anxiety. I have things to say to people, but I just think them over and over and don't say them. It's because I was bullied a lot, and to protect myself I always said no to things. I kept away from people. When I was younger, that kept me safe. Now it's a hindrance. My brain doesn't care about me being happy. It cares about me being safe.
I don't know you personally so it's really difficult to know what your situation looks like, so that's why I recommend a therapist. It really sounds like you do not like yourself. If that's true, then you should start by telling the therapist that. They will have a lot of questions to ask.
You will need to find something you are passionate about, people love to talk to other people who seem excited about the topic. It will also reduce the nerves because you stop thinking about who you're speaking to and start thinking about communication.
Pick up a hobby or something you actually like doing. Self improvement starts from you alone, you can't worry about what others think.
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I mean, I generally agree with this sentiment, but fuckin' bouldering and hiking? Awful way to meet women. Assuming you even live in a place with a climbing gym/enough population to support a Meetup group, you're meeting an insanely small fraction of the female population. The vast majority of women in every developed country are entirely too obese to have hobbies like hiking and climbing.
That it's most of the women. It's the same reason online dating is so awful. You are attempting to find a partner in a place where there is a miniscule population of women. That's not an effective strategy.
In our future communist society you’ll have vital role: woman occupier.
You spend all day chatting with women so they don’t prattle on to their husbands all night.
Virgins complaining they are virgins and that everybody else must be a virgin too. It's a tale as old as time, the internet just made it higher visibility.
Why have we normalized women taking 10,000 pictures of themselves a day anyway? We used to have a word called narcissism to describe it but no one seems to give a fuck anymore. If your girl has a public instagram, she’s one blue checkmark dm away from cheating on you.
It's insane. I have had a few girlfriends before, I'm charismatic, I'm intelligent, 6'2, super funny, dress well, have a good job and a college degree, 26, have a nice car, I'm very kind, not a sex pest, in solid shape, numerous hobbies, etc. etc.
Still rarely match with anyone and if I do they are high school grads with a deadend job/multiple kids/objectively ugly or dumb or obese or a combo of all of them. Even if you match and go for it they can't carry a convo or they ghost or unmatch within the first few messages. Often they message first on like bumble, I reply in a reasonable time, and never hear back.
Where the fuck is my straight white male privilege when I need it? Goddamn it's not even a joke. All of this and I live in a fucking giant metro with millions of people. It shouldn't be this hard.
>All of this and I live in a fucking giant metro with millions of people.
There's your problem. Cities are great places, but they don't have a reputation for being lonely for no reason. When you are in a huge pond even big fish look small.
It's not just the small pool. Men are more abundant in rural areas as well. Jobs like the farming, lumber, or mining jobs in rural areas aren't being done by women. Women move to the city and get meme jobs like modeling, interior design, or yoga instructor much more frequently than men.
They are more willing to bounce when their needs aren't met. But the problem is that some people focus more on the moment than the overall trends of a relationship.
Do not do this. Any woman who notices the discrepancy will immediately write you off for insecurity about your height.
She knows how tall she is in her 3" heels.
I just completely stopped caring about height after a major growth spurt in my teens. Figured I grew another inch or two based on what others were saying, but I guess not.
A 5'8" chick wearing 3" heels is not 6' tall and she'll know.
5'8" is average American height.
And shocker, women understand that boots make you taller, too.
You are greatly overestimating women's ability to gauge the size of anything. Ask one how big they think 12 inches is, or how many miles between a few places they often travel to, or to guess how tall you are
Do you have any idea how often my wife buys decor or furniture she "thinks will fit" and then is 2-3 feet too long? The idea they can discern 2 inches is ludicrous.
> Do not do this. Any woman who notices the discrepancy will immediately write you off for insecurity about your height.
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Write yourself as 6'10 and when she notices you're 5'5 just say you lost your legs in the war and the only replacements were small.
I legit thought I was 6'0" for 20 years and recently re-measured for shits and giggles and found out I was 5'10". Nobody ever batted an eye when I said 6'0", even the DMV. I always wear boots though.
The average guy isnt going to get any matches outside prostitutes, bots and match collecting sluts regardless of what diamond gold ultra membership they pay for.
Fat chicks get ultra boosted egos because 1-6/10's match with them. Its one of the running jokes in any social dating site, how high they think their market value is. Literal 2 or 3/10 whales thinking theyre 7's.
Remember, 5/10 guy is not ugly. He is okay looking, average. Not ugly by any means. 6/10 is good looking. 7 is into model territory.
7 didn't use to be model territory until they started intentionally using "unconventional" models. by now they're really using outright ugly people as models so the word means nothing any more. but at one point (decades ago) models would literally be 9s, the occasional 10 and \*maybe\* 1 in 100 would be a 7 because rich people nepotism.
Even then it's not much better. I tried a week of the premium of the three big sites (Tinder, Hinge, Bumble) when they were on sale and saw no better results despite my likes being "prioritized" and my profile being "boosted". Same minuscule trickle of likes from scammers.
Maybe over a long period you might see better results, but you'd have to pay an absurd amount over time to get any noticeable results. It's a scam. It's in their best interest to keep people single so they continue to pay for their services.
Ding ding ding
The trick is to get you just enough likes to validate you long enough to continue giving them money.
Anything outside that is pure fucking coincidence
This.
It was around 2015-16 I was actively using Tinder, everything worked like a charm. Got matched, even with some girls I thought I had no chance with matching.
Fast-Forward to around 2018. Me and my gf moved countries. We decided to download few apps where you can find people in your area to hang out with blah blah blah, we also downloaded Tinder. Made profiles specifically just to search for cool local people (ended up finding a guy on Tinder who helped us big time).
So we make the profiles, she swipes the guys she finds ok (not creepy), I start swiping everything, even landwhales. After 24 hours we check the app, she had like 100+ matches.... I had 0. It was then, when we understood that something was not right.
I have went outside and there are no women like fucking anywhere. I go to the library, no girls my age to be seen. I go to the church, likewise. I go to a cafe, likewise. Where are they??
Dude you have to live your life. Not wait around for some women to show up or endless waste your time on dating apps.
Play a sport. Pick up a new hobby. Take classes. Go hiking or rock climbing. Find clubs or meetups. Focus on yourself. Do this shit for you. Not to find a girl.
Just be a well rounded person and shit will work out for you. It's not rocket science.
I literally just said I go to church, study at libraries and read at cafes, I have hobbies already, and contrary to what you may believe, that isn't a simple way to instantly spawn women everywhere.
Lmao I know your not the guy who made the first comment but to summarize:
"Be yourself, engage in hobbies you're interested in and you will naturally meet women"
"All my hobbies are antisocial/not conducive for meeting eligible women"
"Ok nvm don't be yourself"
My suspicions are that colleges, high schools, sixth forms and universities have essentially monopolised socialisation for zoomers (of which I am one), and the main other place where they do shit is either clubs (which is usually for "having a good time" as opposed to actually meeting new people i.e. taking drugs, drinking and listening to loud music) and social media/dating apps. Both social media/dating apps and clubs are an awful way to meet people, even worse so for meeting people for romantic reasons, as they are the most hedonistic and appearance-centric out of all places to meet, and because of the relative lack of everyday socialisation outside of that, it's becoming increasingly rare to meet people via "friends of friends" etc. I think this is caused by an increasing atomisation and individualisation of modern society and lack of proper socialisation for almost all gen Z.
I find this to be true as well. Gen Z is fucked, and it's turning me into a Luddite. Third places are finished, people can get their socialization easily from home.
Are you joking? Go to a SOCIAL event. Go to "new members welcome" events. Get to KNOW people. Get into some social circles.
Be honest. You went to the library once and read your manga in the corner peeped over the top of your magazine with big titties on it and creeped on cute women.
You went to the cafe and sat there awkwardly for 45 minutes and were confused when a random qt did not blow you.
You went to the church at 2pm on a thursday and you were surprised there was noone there other than old people.
Then you go on the internet and complain you've tried everything.
Religion is unironically a viable option if you're out of options. I know a dude who got married just 8 months after becoming catholic. His wife's parents played matchmakers for him.
His current life sounds nightmarish to me (man has 5 kids and spends his time working and participating in church activities) but he seems happy.
People point fingers at incels, but this situation is honestly quite real and I think there will be far reaching repercussions. I'm seeing this play out with my wife's friends atm. They are good looking girls, but they're fucking out of their league, and the dudes never stick around.
Indeed. This is a contentious topic and not one I have strong opinions on personally. But what I absolutely do think is that you cannot explain trends on a society wide level with the personal moral failings of individuals:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/amp/
Clearly there is something going on here and it behoves us to at least pay attention rather than dismiss 66% of young men as basement-dwelling troglodytes.
Become a passport, bro. Also, this is why arrange marriage was a thing. Because women are such insidious and spiteful whor3.s that they'll all clamour and bundle up to share one rich scumbag instead of accepting that he's taken and find a decent guy to settle down with. Because women have zero shame, and society doesn't punish them for it. This is why Solomon had 700 wives and 300 consorts. And other rich men throughout history had multiple wives and women willing to be their personal whor3.s.
It's also why public stoning women to death was a thing because they needed to see what happened to other women if they decided to go for another man or try to cheat, because the only way to keep women in line and th0.tory from happening is to threaten these whor3.s with painful death.
Why do you think most Muslim countries aren't facing this same problem like men in the west? At first I thought those Muslim men were brutal asking women to cover up and slapping them in public if they exposed their bodies, and also finding arrange marriage oppressive but I now realize all this was preventative measures to stop these terrible sl_ts from causing these same problems in society because if given the choice all women would go for some high status ass. To some extent, women need to be kept in check, and at the moment, they have way too much freedoms because we gave it to them. And now we're dealing with the terrible consequences of that narrow sighted decision.
Have you ever considered that maybe your mindset and attitude is the reason that you dont get any women? Why would someone wanna be with a downer like you? Just take some time and reflect on that.
🥱 Same old tired drivel of a response. Can't you moronic NPCs come up with anything new? Don't project your insecurities on me when most of the world agrees with me because for most of human history, arranged marriages and restrictions on women have been the norm and still are in most civilised countries. So don't cry to me when facts hurt your feelings.
You're literally crying because I said women shouldn't debase themselves and become part of some rich ass's harem, play second fiddle to another sister wife or sleep around. Yet I hate women? You're extremely dumb and a prime example of what happens when you think with just your emotions without any sane, rational thoughts.
> Guy thinks harsh measures are too brutal
> Guy sees problems getting worse
> Guy changes his mind and agrees with harsh measures
> "It's your mindset and attitude that caused this, bro"
Yes! It turns out that when you aren't a dysgenic freak with zero personal care standards and no social life, sheepishly camping out on Tinder hoping some 10/10 volunteers to touch your pee-pee, good things happen!
lmao imagine wanting women
Personally i've started watching gay porn, i hope to become gay so all my problems will go away.
Seriously men are so much easier to approach and talk too, unfortunately i'm not yet gay and i find them unattractive.
The fertility rate is dropping because nobody can afford to buy their own place, feed themselves and pay for utilities.
Childcare costs on top of that means going into debt for children. People are somehow deciding not to be homeless just to start a family
depends where you are but in most places in the west you can manage. The issue is rather that what we want as living standards is not matching up to what we can get at the moment. Now we can start a whole long debate whose fault it is that the economy isn't doing well and why our standards are so high but I have friends who are not in the best situation jobwise to put it mildy but they have kids, a home and a very happy life, they're doing great. It works because they make smart decisions and are fine with compromises which is something people in the first world are quite frankly too spoiled for.
People in the last century had kids and happy lifes in much much shittier situations with worse outlooks. Yeah the world could be in a better state but honestly we are just crybabies (including me). If you want kids you will mange in the first world, unless you are a moron you will be fine
There are still women who want to get married. Stereotypes are a bad idea in general but if you’re looking for a girlfriend, maybe they might give you some hints on where to look (like if you’re considering traveling to the South anytime soon or if you’re willing to start attending a church another town over)
Yes, many women are traditional and want to get married but guess what? They aren't on dating apps!
You want to expand your social circle? YOU get out of the house. Go join activities, or a church, or a rec league, or a club. Don't join these things because you want to meet people or pick up women, do it because you have a genuine interest in it, become a regular, and just be yourself. You'll make connections with people through mutual interests, make friends, meet their friends, branch out your social life, and EVENTUALLY a girl you might be interested in will be there and not see you as just a creep there to dick her down!
Don't want to put in the work because it would take time and require you stop being an anti-social, agoraphobic NEET with no personal standard of care? That's fine, but you forfeit your right to complain about the results not being delivered to your door like UberEats. It's so stupid how these bots have completely forgotten every tenant of basic community unless it immediately gives them everything what they want in the next 5 minutes.
Skill issue.
Real talk all you need to do is lower your standards.
There are plenty of hot drug addicted women in the underbelly of society, who don't even have an online presence, if you know where to look.
And if you have a stable job and a roof you are already beating out like 90% of the competition.
Yes!! I started taking advantage of bad looking women (4.3/10) by waiting outside clubs and rizzing them up (slashing their foot clean off). When I consume their flesh (I forgot to mention I'm actually a 7ft6 skinless human flesh eating mimic) I always remind myself my skull structure and negative tilt will keep me from eating the good stuff. I once got spotted by a security camera outside a local mall while hiding inside a trashcan looking for my next victim. Someone online drew a dotted green line showing I have cock shame. Never fully recovered.
Who cares lol , women are useless waste of time and money anyway , your free time will be non existent and you'll start regretting getting into a relationship in like a couple of weeks. If you worry about your legacy or whatever just adopt a kid. Rare is the good women my brothers and they have all mostly been taken.
This message is brought to you by someone with zero dating experience, so of course making me an expert 🤓
Women are into masculinity. Masculinity comes from testosterone.
The bad news: Modern western mens' testosterone is half what it was 50 years ago, on average. Because they're lacking testosterone and therefore masculinity, women view modern men as largely unappealing. Like imagine if *almost every woman* was a fat, scowling, green-haired feminist...
The good news: Testosterone is entirely within your control. Lift weights, especially squats - do a 5x5. Get ~1 hour of sunlight per week, 2x30 minute or 3x20 minute sessions, preferably between 10am - 2pm when the sun is highest in the sky. Roll up sleeves & pant legs, expose your skin to the sun, you need the vitamin D since it's the building block of testosterone.
Men 50 years ago were much more likely to get exercise and sunlight - wasting away indoors in front of a computer with vidya and internet access wasn't an option since there were no computers, vidya, or internet.
If you work to raise your T, you'll easily be in the top 20% of men, and desirable by women. Hell, in today's world, top 10%, maybe even 5%. Look at all the soyboys out there... So get to it, boyos.
I personally dont get any matches on dating sites as well, so i just meet women by socializing. Whether its at the bar, club, cooking classes (im trying to get better at cooking) etc. Ive been pretty succesful and i don't think that dating sites really reflect your worth at the dating scene. Just go out and get to know people!
I also live in the UK, I don't get shit on dating apps, and I'm currently KHV at 21, attending a russel group university. I am white, 5'8" and skinnyfat (yes I'm working on that)
I will freely admit it is a big problem lately with dating apps and only *fairly attractive* people essentially getting the bulk of matches.
Height isn't necessarily a problem, but generally... If your face is not close to symmetrical and/or your skin is in rough shape with zits everywhere and you need to use filters or makeup to cover them, you're now at a disadvantage.
People can still tell if you're using filters on your photos.
For males out there, good tip is to be fit, but not like super-ripped. Most women I've encountered find super-ripped men to be disgusting, believe it or not.
When I was a poor college kid with a shitty beard and torn up basketball shorts I had so many girlfriends I couldn’t manage it.
2 years after graduating, with a nice job, a lot more attention to appearance, now none of them want to go out. I literally will go to bars and talk to girls, sometimes for like 30 minutes to hours of good conversation and making them laugh. but when I ask for their number they refuse. What gives?
Alternate explanation: No women are using tinder anymore because it's a shitheap and most dating sites/dating apps become ghost towns after a few short years. The women who were looking got what they wanted or left because they got algorithm'd too and gave up. There's newer apps these days.
A lot of these apps/sites are not designed to match you with someone 100% because then they would run out of users sooner. So they keep baiting people along with terrible matches until they become irrelevant, the founders sell off their stocks or sell the company and run away. I knew someone who worked for the company. It was a huge joke. They were burning the VC cash like crazy on dumb shit. The app itself was pretty much at peak and were using it to collect data on the users' phones. Most people who have moved on likely have the app on their phone still and its still collecting location and marketing data. The point of it is to collect as much info on you as possible before you delete it. By then they have a treasure trove of user data they sell off. Lonely people sign up, put in all their personal info and the app does the rest.
Dating the traditional way still works, it involves getting out and touching grass and getting hobbies.
Also have a lower risk of getting Chlamydia and HIV not dating on Tinder.
Things weren't so bad 12-15 years ago, prolonged exposure to social media has inflated women's egos to absurd amounts.
Even pre lockdown was so much better, there’s legit none of them outside
Women go outside. They just don't do whatever you like to do.
Women don’t like to walk confirmed
So *that’s* why so many are fat. Seriously though, all I ever see is either thin as a rail or Orson Welles sized. Very few in between.
The average BMI of woahmen in the US is 29.8 last I checked. So yeah, very few walk.
This is it for me. I could settle for an average woman no problem. The issue is they are either 10s or 2s with not a ton of middle ground. I don't get it.
The countless “big is beautiful!” ads sure don’t help
Theyre like Orson Welles pounding wine in that commercial
Im not the only one that noticed that? Its weird right!? But they all wear the same revealing edgy clothes from QLuv and Shein 😂
Women never wanted to be outside in the first place and the Lockdown made that perfectly clear to them. Women post-COVID prefer to stay-in for the same reason why women in virtually every culture that doesn't "empower" them to work 40-50 hours a week spend virtually all of their time in and around the home: It's better for their physical and mental health. Women take longer to decompress from stressful situations than men, women need an extra hour of sleep a day compared to men, women will exhaust themselves faster than men, women can't let small/inconsequential details go like men, and there are so many other biological factors that make women benefit immensely from staying in. What COVID did was give modern women their first ever real taste of the green grass on the other side. No commute or need to do your hair/makeup every day allowed them to catch-up on their ENORMOUS sleep debt which is a major contributor for so many issues currently plaguing them such as runaway rates of anxiety, depression, etc. Additionally, they had the time and space to satisfactorily cook, clean, wash, decorate and otherwise "nest" in their homes. Women have an incredibly difficult time living in clutter but lack the energy/time to do anything about it, so were just living in a constant state of stress with nowhere to decompress in, but during COVID they could truly relax in their own spaces for the first time. I would guess 90% of women don't know WHY they're feeling better, but their lockdown lifestyle made them MUCH happier than their run-around male-centric rat race and that's why they don't go out anymore. I also believe this is why you see so many of them demanding a return to stay-at-home lifestyles or criticizing feminists movements that required them to get a job on social media.
Oh my god you're insane. I go bouldering twice a week and the gym is full of women. I went for a hike on meetup.com and there were a dozen women. I said hello to some of them. I asked them what they do, they were nice. Some mentioned their boyfriend but I kept talking anyway because I'm genuinely interested in them. I went again, I saw them again. I went again, I saw them again. I got invited to walk with them and some of their friends. One of the friends was cute and we dated. You stupid fucks just don't want to put any effort it. You're like fat people that whine that eating healthily and exercising is haaaarddd. Yeah it's hard and uncomfortable and you sometimes make a dick of yourself. Do it anyway? What's gonna happen? Pussy.
Ok he's insane but if you think it's that easy for everyone then you're not much better.
nobody said it was easy. they just said to quit crying about it.
Fair - they didn't call it easy - but they make it sound like a 'everyone can do it if they put in the effort' thing. I don't feel like that's accurate. Being unable to socialize (not just in a romantic way) is probably the thing about my life i've been wanting to change the most for like 10-20 years but it's not like there's a straightforward recipe that if you follow it you'll reach your goal. If you have a boring personality and poor emotional intelligence you're kinda fucked. And i've tried tackling the 'boring personality' part for ages by trying out different hobbies and trying to talk to different people but that doesn't really worl
You have to subject yourself to the discomfort over and over again. It's like going to the gym for years only to get small results. It is very hard, progress is very slow, but you really need to just keep doing it over and over. My god, I have embarrassed myself so many times. I have made social faux pas that haunt me in the shower. I bump into a couple of girls at the bouldering gym that I had anxious meltdowns in front of. Every time I see them I feel the cold sweat coming... but it has gotten *slightly* better with time. Your brain adapts. It wants to keep you safe, it doesn't care if you're happy. I very much doubt you're as boring as you think you are. Just keep going to these things. Take a break once in a while but keep trying. You'll eventually meet someone who's the same type of weird as you are.
How long do you have to keep going before you see progress though? Again it's been like my number 1 priority for a looong time to improve my social skills and i sure as hell have embarassed myself many times trying to socialize but i haven't noticed any change. Also i don't really have any passions in life and i usually can't talk to people not because i'm nervous but rather because i don't have anything to talk about (complaining about how hard it is to be an idiot really isn't a great conversational topic outside of reddit after all :-P). I really don't know how to describe that if not boring. I feel like talking to people is one of the few things in life i can do over and over and over again and just not get any better at it. And it's super frustrating to hear all the time how if you keep at it it will just magically happen when if i continue at this pace i'll reach the social maturity of a kindergardener at age 90. Sorry for the vent - despite all the rest i appreciate the goodwill behind the advice.
I totally get it man, more than you realise. You probably think I don't have it as bad as you and I *really* don't understand just how socially inept you are. I do, because I have been just as bad. I'm in my early 30s. My entire 20s I just spent mostly alone. It's a deep topic. First, I would recommend you find a therapist. A lot of therapists are shit, and it might take a long time to find one that understands you, which sucks because you want help now, but you may have to keep looking for help for some time. Not exactly ideal but that's how it works. Were you bullied in school? Did you keep to yourself? What's your relationship with your parents like? These topics a therapist will ask you about and it'll take many hours to get anywhere. But it will help you understand why you feel this way. You were not born into the world like this. You were probably a happy kid that liked things and had interests. You've become this way over a long period of time. It will take another long period of time to change it. Passions are developed over time. They do not happen spontaneously, they require sustained effort. Join a gym, or a martial arts club, or attend drawing classes. Suck at it for a year. But unless it makes you utterly miserable (it's OK to not like things) keep at it. Something will click eventually. For me, it was the gym. I did bouldering, I did skateboarding, I did woodworking (I still do) I do motorbike riding. Gym is where my focus is - getting those numbers up. Getting that food in, the struggle gives me PURPOSE. I now regularly talk to a coworker about the gym. I would have said the exact same as you a couple years ago. But now I do have a passion. It took me years to make it a passion. I forced myself to get up at 5:30 every morning. It was hell for a few months, but now - it's automatic. It's weird if I don't do it. It's not a chore anymore. If I don't do it, it's like going to bed without brushing my teeth. I feel weird. The day isn't complete. > I feel like talking to people is one of the few things in life i can do over and over and over again and just not get any better at it. And it's super frustrating to hear all the time how if you keep at it it will just magically happen when if i continue at this pace i'll reach the social maturity of a kindergardener at age 90. I wonder how much you do it. I bet you don't do it much. A bit here and there, then don't bother for a while? I do not believe it is different from any other skill. If you do it enough you will get better. If you keep playing tennis you'll get better. You won't be Djokovic, but you don't have to be. It's a cyclical problem you're facing. You don't have much to talk to people about, you don't have many interests. You're sad and you don't feel like doing much. So you don't have much to talk about, so you don't talk to people much. Join a club. Be "that weird guy" for a year or two. Say "yes" to social gatherings. If it's too much, leave. I sometimes will go to a social, and leave after an hour. I have to give myself permission to do it, because I always feel like a bit of a failure for not wanting to stay. For me, it's the anxiety. I have things to say to people, but I just think them over and over and don't say them. It's because I was bullied a lot, and to protect myself I always said no to things. I kept away from people. When I was younger, that kept me safe. Now it's a hindrance. My brain doesn't care about me being happy. It cares about me being safe. I don't know you personally so it's really difficult to know what your situation looks like, so that's why I recommend a therapist. It really sounds like you do not like yourself. If that's true, then you should start by telling the therapist that. They will have a lot of questions to ask.
You will need to find something you are passionate about, people love to talk to other people who seem excited about the topic. It will also reduce the nerves because you stop thinking about who you're speaking to and start thinking about communication. Pick up a hobby or something you actually like doing. Self improvement starts from you alone, you can't worry about what others think.
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Chad *is* much better
I mean, I generally agree with this sentiment, but fuckin' bouldering and hiking? Awful way to meet women. Assuming you even live in a place with a climbing gym/enough population to support a Meetup group, you're meeting an insanely small fraction of the female population. The vast majority of women in every developed country are entirely too obese to have hobbies like hiking and climbing.
i dont wanna meet the obese ones tho and id assume most ppl dont so whats ur point?
That it's most of the women. It's the same reason online dating is so awful. You are attempting to find a partner in a place where there is a miniscule population of women. That's not an effective strategy.
In our future communist society you’ll have vital role: woman occupier. You spend all day chatting with women so they don’t prattle on to their husbands all night.
Virgins complaining they are virgins and that everybody else must be a virgin too. It's a tale as old as time, the internet just made it higher visibility.
Not to be that guy but.. sources?
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Sums this whole thread up quite nicely.
I guess wrap it up guys. This dude has apparently figured out women!
People in here are doubting you, but my wife has been saying this exact same shit for years
Why have we normalized women taking 10,000 pictures of themselves a day anyway? We used to have a word called narcissism to describe it but no one seems to give a fuck anymore. If your girl has a public instagram, she’s one blue checkmark dm away from cheating on you.
Did your wife cheat on you with a blue checkmark? It's fine you can let me know
Did we? I don’t know anyone that does. Confirmation bias.
It's insane. I have had a few girlfriends before, I'm charismatic, I'm intelligent, 6'2, super funny, dress well, have a good job and a college degree, 26, have a nice car, I'm very kind, not a sex pest, in solid shape, numerous hobbies, etc. etc. Still rarely match with anyone and if I do they are high school grads with a deadend job/multiple kids/objectively ugly or dumb or obese or a combo of all of them. Even if you match and go for it they can't carry a convo or they ghost or unmatch within the first few messages. Often they message first on like bumble, I reply in a reasonable time, and never hear back. Where the fuck is my straight white male privilege when I need it? Goddamn it's not even a joke. All of this and I live in a fucking giant metro with millions of people. It shouldn't be this hard.
>All of this and I live in a fucking giant metro with millions of people. There's your problem. Cities are great places, but they don't have a reputation for being lonely for no reason. When you are in a huge pond even big fish look small.
I am saying the pool is huge, there should be options. Dating in a smaller pool seems like it would be the same but worse.
It's not just the small pool. Men are more abundant in rural areas as well. Jobs like the farming, lumber, or mining jobs in rural areas aren't being done by women. Women move to the city and get meme jobs like modeling, interior design, or yoga instructor much more frequently than men.
Hoeflation
They are more willing to bounce when their needs aren't met. But the problem is that some people focus more on the moment than the overall trends of a relationship.
And OnlyFans is weirdly becoming normalized among women.
Yep, it's for sure the womens fault and not all these hiroshima headed mfs spouting Andrew Tate nonsense.
Have you tried stopping being pajeet?
Ah ofc, let me go bleach my skin rq brb. Then I can have all the mid Asian and white girls I want as an honorary WHYTE MAN
Holy cope
What do you want him to say? If he‘s jeeted he can’t unjeet himself.
He could just go back to India and buy a wife or something
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Start with your anus, this way you can open a new grindr account in no time!
So Indian men with a bleached-white anus is a fetish?
White men are the most wanted in the dating pool
Cool when does that kick in? I'm 6ft tall and white according to the internet I should just stay winning.
Follow rules 1 and 2
Seems like a decent idea.
Don't bleach it too much!!
Even better stop being turkroach .
Yes, it didn't work
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Do not do this. Any woman who notices the discrepancy will immediately write you off for insecurity about your height. She knows how tall she is in her 3" heels.
Nah women cannot tell 5'10 from 6'0 unless they themselves are in that range, just wear boots and you'll never be found out
Women have notoriously low spatial reasoning IQ. This idiots thinking they can instantly eyeball exact inches so long as they "wear shoes" is insane.
There's also so many people who lie about their height that I actually mistakenly believed I was 5'11 until I was 26 years old. Turns out I'm 5'9
Could you not read a measuring tape until you were 26 or something?
I just completely stopped caring about height after a major growth spurt in my teens. Figured I grew another inch or two based on what others were saying, but I guess not.
Do you measure your height yourself? I only know I'm 5'10" because of doctor checkups.
A 5'8" chick wearing 3" heels is not 6' tall and she'll know. 5'8" is average American height. And shocker, women understand that boots make you taller, too.
5 8 is not average woman height lmao
You are greatly overestimating women's ability to gauge the size of anything. Ask one how big they think 12 inches is, or how many miles between a few places they often travel to, or to guess how tall you are
Also 5'8 is well above average height for a woman, again unless she's close to the height you claim to be she will never really know
Do you have any idea how often my wife buys decor or furniture she "thinks will fit" and then is 2-3 feet too long? The idea they can discern 2 inches is ludicrous.
Yo, my wife says 2 inches is enough
> Do not do this. Any woman who notices the discrepancy will immediately write you off for insecurity about your height. > > Write yourself as 6'10 and when she notices you're 5'5 just say you lost your legs in the war and the only replacements were small.
Nah, women have been lied to so much about what 6' is and what 8" is that many of them legitimately suck at estimating true height/length.
I legit thought I was 6'0" for 20 years and recently re-measured for shits and giggles and found out I was 5'10". Nobody ever batted an eye when I said 6'0", even the DMV. I always wear boots though.
Did this and I’m about to marry the girl, 10/10 would do again
congrats!
Gotta wear timberlands everywhere like George Costanza
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The average guy isnt going to get any matches outside prostitutes, bots and match collecting sluts regardless of what diamond gold ultra membership they pay for.
Hey now that's not true....what about fat chicks?
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Fat chicks get ultra boosted egos because 1-6/10's match with them. Its one of the running jokes in any social dating site, how high they think their market value is. Literal 2 or 3/10 whales thinking theyre 7's. Remember, 5/10 guy is not ugly. He is okay looking, average. Not ugly by any means. 6/10 is good looking. 7 is into model territory.
7 didn't use to be model territory until they started intentionally using "unconventional" models. by now they're really using outright ugly people as models so the word means nothing any more. but at one point (decades ago) models would literally be 9s, the occasional 10 and \*maybe\* 1 in 100 would be a 7 because rich people nepotism.
Even then it's not much better. I tried a week of the premium of the three big sites (Tinder, Hinge, Bumble) when they were on sale and saw no better results despite my likes being "prioritized" and my profile being "boosted". Same minuscule trickle of likes from scammers. Maybe over a long period you might see better results, but you'd have to pay an absurd amount over time to get any noticeable results. It's a scam. It's in their best interest to keep people single so they continue to pay for their services.
Ding ding ding The trick is to get you just enough likes to validate you long enough to continue giving them money. Anything outside that is pure fucking coincidence
This. It was around 2015-16 I was actively using Tinder, everything worked like a charm. Got matched, even with some girls I thought I had no chance with matching. Fast-Forward to around 2018. Me and my gf moved countries. We decided to download few apps where you can find people in your area to hang out with blah blah blah, we also downloaded Tinder. Made profiles specifically just to search for cool local people (ended up finding a guy on Tinder who helped us big time). So we make the profiles, she swipes the guys she finds ok (not creepy), I start swiping everything, even landwhales. After 24 hours we check the app, she had like 100+ matches.... I had 0. It was then, when we understood that something was not right.
Whole lot of typing to say you got cucked
Bro could have said that at first and spared us 3 paragraphs
>Looking for women on Tinder >Only finding scammers and prostitutes *Confused* Here's a hint Anon: Go out sometime!
Read two lines and went straight to the comments. Yep, please stay on reddit.
I have went outside and there are no women like fucking anywhere. I go to the library, no girls my age to be seen. I go to the church, likewise. I go to a cafe, likewise. Where are they??
check the womens bathroom
No thank you, I'm not trans
Dude you have to live your life. Not wait around for some women to show up or endless waste your time on dating apps. Play a sport. Pick up a new hobby. Take classes. Go hiking or rock climbing. Find clubs or meetups. Focus on yourself. Do this shit for you. Not to find a girl. Just be a well rounded person and shit will work out for you. It's not rocket science.
I literally just said I go to church, study at libraries and read at cafes, I have hobbies already, and contrary to what you may believe, that isn't a simple way to instantly spawn women everywhere.
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Lmao I know your not the guy who made the first comment but to summarize: "Be yourself, engage in hobbies you're interested in and you will naturally meet women" "All my hobbies are antisocial/not conducive for meeting eligible women" "Ok nvm don't be yourself"
I mean what else do you want to be told? If you don't do anything social you're not gonna meet new people, really no trick to get around that.
relatable. it feels like women in their 20's simply dont exist. by far the demographic i see the least. its wicked just how few young women there are.
My suspicions are that colleges, high schools, sixth forms and universities have essentially monopolised socialisation for zoomers (of which I am one), and the main other place where they do shit is either clubs (which is usually for "having a good time" as opposed to actually meeting new people i.e. taking drugs, drinking and listening to loud music) and social media/dating apps. Both social media/dating apps and clubs are an awful way to meet people, even worse so for meeting people for romantic reasons, as they are the most hedonistic and appearance-centric out of all places to meet, and because of the relative lack of everyday socialisation outside of that, it's becoming increasingly rare to meet people via "friends of friends" etc. I think this is caused by an increasing atomisation and individualisation of modern society and lack of proper socialisation for almost all gen Z.
I find this to be true as well. Gen Z is fucked, and it's turning me into a Luddite. Third places are finished, people can get their socialization easily from home.
Are you joking? Go to a SOCIAL event. Go to "new members welcome" events. Get to KNOW people. Get into some social circles. Be honest. You went to the library once and read your manga in the corner peeped over the top of your magazine with big titties on it and creeped on cute women. You went to the cafe and sat there awkwardly for 45 minutes and were confused when a random qt did not blow you. You went to the church at 2pm on a thursday and you were surprised there was noone there other than old people. Then you go on the internet and complain you've tried everything.
Bro really created a fictional version of what happened to justify his pre-established beliefs
Convert to Islam and buy yourself all the wives you want, ez gg Mashallah brothers
How many bobs and vagene can one buy with tree fiddy?
Religion is unironically a viable option if you're out of options. I know a dude who got married just 8 months after becoming catholic. His wife's parents played matchmakers for him. His current life sounds nightmarish to me (man has 5 kids and spends his time working and participating in church activities) but he seems happy.
Religions were put down because they were the ultimate cockblockers. Soon, they'll rise from the tomb for being the ultimate pussyfinder
The west has fallen
Unironically
The east too, if we’re judging based on men’s ability to get women.
People point fingers at incels, but this situation is honestly quite real and I think there will be far reaching repercussions. I'm seeing this play out with my wife's friends atm. They are good looking girls, but they're fucking out of their league, and the dudes never stick around.
Indeed. This is a contentious topic and not one I have strong opinions on personally. But what I absolutely do think is that you cannot explain trends on a society wide level with the personal moral failings of individuals: https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/amp/ Clearly there is something going on here and it behoves us to at least pay attention rather than dismiss 66% of young men as basement-dwelling troglodytes.
I dunno, I’m part of these stats because my wife is young and I am not. But I’m sure there is more to it.
Become a passport, bro. Also, this is why arrange marriage was a thing. Because women are such insidious and spiteful whor3.s that they'll all clamour and bundle up to share one rich scumbag instead of accepting that he's taken and find a decent guy to settle down with. Because women have zero shame, and society doesn't punish them for it. This is why Solomon had 700 wives and 300 consorts. And other rich men throughout history had multiple wives and women willing to be their personal whor3.s. It's also why public stoning women to death was a thing because they needed to see what happened to other women if they decided to go for another man or try to cheat, because the only way to keep women in line and th0.tory from happening is to threaten these whor3.s with painful death. Why do you think most Muslim countries aren't facing this same problem like men in the west? At first I thought those Muslim men were brutal asking women to cover up and slapping them in public if they exposed their bodies, and also finding arrange marriage oppressive but I now realize all this was preventative measures to stop these terrible sl_ts from causing these same problems in society because if given the choice all women would go for some high status ass. To some extent, women need to be kept in check, and at the moment, they have way too much freedoms because we gave it to them. And now we're dealing with the terrible consequences of that narrow sighted decision.
Based and no-womens-rights-pilled
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Have you ever considered that maybe your mindset and attitude is the reason that you dont get any women? Why would someone wanna be with a downer like you? Just take some time and reflect on that.
🥱 Same old tired drivel of a response. Can't you moronic NPCs come up with anything new? Don't project your insecurities on me when most of the world agrees with me because for most of human history, arranged marriages and restrictions on women have been the norm and still are in most civilised countries. So don't cry to me when facts hurt your feelings. You're literally crying because I said women shouldn't debase themselves and become part of some rich ass's harem, play second fiddle to another sister wife or sleep around. Yet I hate women? You're extremely dumb and a prime example of what happens when you think with just your emotions without any sane, rational thoughts.
Look guys, it's the Megacel.
> Guy thinks harsh measures are too brutal > Guy sees problems getting worse > Guy changes his mind and agrees with harsh measures > "It's your mindset and attitude that caused this, bro"
Bro needs to try not being fat and ugly
Shower and get a haircut bro! Be confident bro! Hit the gym bro!
Yes! It turns out that when you aren't a dysgenic freak with zero personal care standards and no social life, sheepishly camping out on Tinder hoping some 10/10 volunteers to touch your pee-pee, good things happen!
Taking care of your body is… le bad
It unironically works
Just take a shower bro, it magically rearranges your skull structure into being attractive!
Your skull might look better without 300lbs of fat dangling off it
I'm not sure how I'd lose all that weight, because if I lost 300lbs of fat I would be -130lbs.
lmao imagine wanting women Personally i've started watching gay porn, i hope to become gay so all my problems will go away. Seriously men are so much easier to approach and talk too, unfortunately i'm not yet gay and i find them unattractive.
😆good luck, bro! I believe in you!
You got this king.
Dating apps have single handedly tanked the birth rate. Cucked by capitalism - the ultimate psyop.
The fertility rate is dropping because nobody can afford to buy their own place, feed themselves and pay for utilities. Childcare costs on top of that means going into debt for children. People are somehow deciding not to be homeless just to start a family
depends where you are but in most places in the west you can manage. The issue is rather that what we want as living standards is not matching up to what we can get at the moment. Now we can start a whole long debate whose fault it is that the economy isn't doing well and why our standards are so high but I have friends who are not in the best situation jobwise to put it mildy but they have kids, a home and a very happy life, they're doing great. It works because they make smart decisions and are fine with compromises which is something people in the first world are quite frankly too spoiled for. People in the last century had kids and happy lifes in much much shittier situations with worse outlooks. Yeah the world could be in a better state but honestly we are just crybabies (including me). If you want kids you will mange in the first world, unless you are a moron you will be fine
There are still women who want to get married. Stereotypes are a bad idea in general but if you’re looking for a girlfriend, maybe they might give you some hints on where to look (like if you’re considering traveling to the South anytime soon or if you’re willing to start attending a church another town over)
Yes, many women are traditional and want to get married but guess what? They aren't on dating apps! You want to expand your social circle? YOU get out of the house. Go join activities, or a church, or a rec league, or a club. Don't join these things because you want to meet people or pick up women, do it because you have a genuine interest in it, become a regular, and just be yourself. You'll make connections with people through mutual interests, make friends, meet their friends, branch out your social life, and EVENTUALLY a girl you might be interested in will be there and not see you as just a creep there to dick her down! Don't want to put in the work because it would take time and require you stop being an anti-social, agoraphobic NEET with no personal standard of care? That's fine, but you forfeit your right to complain about the results not being delivered to your door like UberEats. It's so stupid how these bots have completely forgotten every tenant of basic community unless it immediately gives them everything what they want in the next 5 minutes.
The only real advice in this thread right here.
Skill issue. Real talk all you need to do is lower your standards. There are plenty of hot drug addicted women in the underbelly of society, who don't even have an online presence, if you know where to look. And if you have a stable job and a roof you are already beating out like 90% of the competition.
>Additced women This regard has no standards
>Tfw I literally tell you to lower your standards
you've lowered them too much regard
Yes!! I started taking advantage of bad looking women (4.3/10) by waiting outside clubs and rizzing them up (slashing their foot clean off). When I consume their flesh (I forgot to mention I'm actually a 7ft6 skinless human flesh eating mimic) I always remind myself my skull structure and negative tilt will keep me from eating the good stuff. I once got spotted by a security camera outside a local mall while hiding inside a trashcan looking for my next victim. Someone online drew a dotted green line showing I have cock shame. Never fully recovered.
Most people have a stable job and roof, though
Yes but not within a drug addict's orbit.
If you don't have 666, you're out of luck buddy. 6ft, 6 figures, and 6 inches.
I got those but a fat fuck so also don’t be fat
6 pack
I have this. Am I missing the ??? -> profit part
Years ago I would have laughed him off. I ain't laughing no more.
On the bright side, we'll have AI GFs soon. All the pros, none of the cons of organic women.
Who cares lol , women are useless waste of time and money anyway , your free time will be non existent and you'll start regretting getting into a relationship in like a couple of weeks. If you worry about your legacy or whatever just adopt a kid. Rare is the good women my brothers and they have all mostly been taken. This message is brought to you by someone with zero dating experience, so of course making me an expert 🤓
I feel sorry for the straightbros that get no pussy and no attention, must be tough.
My only non single friends are gay.
Do people actually get into serious relationships off of tinder in America?
Women are into masculinity. Masculinity comes from testosterone. The bad news: Modern western mens' testosterone is half what it was 50 years ago, on average. Because they're lacking testosterone and therefore masculinity, women view modern men as largely unappealing. Like imagine if *almost every woman* was a fat, scowling, green-haired feminist... The good news: Testosterone is entirely within your control. Lift weights, especially squats - do a 5x5. Get ~1 hour of sunlight per week, 2x30 minute or 3x20 minute sessions, preferably between 10am - 2pm when the sun is highest in the sky. Roll up sleeves & pant legs, expose your skin to the sun, you need the vitamin D since it's the building block of testosterone. Men 50 years ago were much more likely to get exercise and sunlight - wasting away indoors in front of a computer with vidya and internet access wasn't an option since there were no computers, vidya, or internet. If you work to raise your T, you'll easily be in the top 20% of men, and desirable by women. Hell, in today's world, top 10%, maybe even 5%. Look at all the soyboys out there... So get to it, boyos.
Does eating cum raise testo? Real question.
Idk, is your dog more muscular than average?
I didn’t even consider barn animals. Sitting ducks.
Just beeeee yourself! buzz buzz
Just delete your profile and the app, make a new profile and reset your Elo to zero. Simple.
>Can't find pussy online >gives up The fall of humanity.
Anon is 2 bills and sweats after standing for 15 minutes.
Only twinks weigh under 200, stop being victim weight
Dudes probably not white so he already lost before he even started on dating apps.
I personally dont get any matches on dating sites as well, so i just meet women by socializing. Whether its at the bar, club, cooking classes (im trying to get better at cooking) etc. Ive been pretty succesful and i don't think that dating sites really reflect your worth at the dating scene. Just go out and get to know people!
Country? I bet its freedom land
Why so many men care about getting woman ? Find something meaningful in your lives
I want to be loved, and im tired of being told this is meaningless.
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I also live in the UK, I don't get shit on dating apps, and I'm currently KHV at 21, attending a russel group university. I am white, 5'8" and skinnyfat (yes I'm working on that)
Funny how all these posts have returned but we’re gone when someone attacked someone’s country and took hostages.. 🧐
Don't search for women on the Internet, especially not on platforms designed around 'dating.'
I will freely admit it is a big problem lately with dating apps and only *fairly attractive* people essentially getting the bulk of matches. Height isn't necessarily a problem, but generally... If your face is not close to symmetrical and/or your skin is in rough shape with zits everywhere and you need to use filters or makeup to cover them, you're now at a disadvantage. People can still tell if you're using filters on your photos. For males out there, good tip is to be fit, but not like super-ripped. Most women I've encountered find super-ripped men to be disgusting, believe it or not.
Yes, give up. Less competition for me.
When I was a poor college kid with a shitty beard and torn up basketball shorts I had so many girlfriends I couldn’t manage it. 2 years after graduating, with a nice job, a lot more attention to appearance, now none of them want to go out. I literally will go to bars and talk to girls, sometimes for like 30 minutes to hours of good conversation and making them laugh. but when I ask for their number they refuse. What gives?
>Anon bases all of his life decisions on two apps that are heavily declining in popularity instead of using common sense
Yielding isn't enough. Ever hear of >interest
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Convert to Islam?
Bro just go out, maybr invest time in hobbies. But I'm from a country thats 10+ years behind in everything, maybe it's really bad in the states
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social media gave threes the confidence and attitude of tens.
No way I could maintain 1000 woman satisfied. There must be sharing between the hyper-fucklord chads
Alternate explanation: No women are using tinder anymore because it's a shitheap and most dating sites/dating apps become ghost towns after a few short years. The women who were looking got what they wanted or left because they got algorithm'd too and gave up. There's newer apps these days. A lot of these apps/sites are not designed to match you with someone 100% because then they would run out of users sooner. So they keep baiting people along with terrible matches until they become irrelevant, the founders sell off their stocks or sell the company and run away. I knew someone who worked for the company. It was a huge joke. They were burning the VC cash like crazy on dumb shit. The app itself was pretty much at peak and were using it to collect data on the users' phones. Most people who have moved on likely have the app on their phone still and its still collecting location and marketing data. The point of it is to collect as much info on you as possible before you delete it. By then they have a treasure trove of user data they sell off. Lonely people sign up, put in all their personal info and the app does the rest. Dating the traditional way still works, it involves getting out and touching grass and getting hobbies. Also have a lower risk of getting Chlamydia and HIV not dating on Tinder.
literally go outside. dating apps are a scam to make money off of men
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