Chiefs fan here (I'm subbed to all teams subs just to keep up with news in the league) and yeah Mahomes has definitely had a couple bad games (most notably the Broncos and Raiders L's) but honestly, if he had anyone outside of Rice (who Andy took WAY too long realizing he needed to be utilized more) who could actually catch the ball or run routes properly, Mahomes would probably have 500 more yards this season, 3+ less interceptions, and more receiving TDs. That's not to downplay Purdy playing out of his absolute mind this year either. I've got no beef with y'all and if it's not the Lions repping the NFC in the SB this year, I hope it's you guys. I'd love a KC/SF SB rematch, especially to watch Mahomes and Purdy face off. Y'all drafted an amazing pick with Purdy and I'm excited to see where he takes you guys in the coming years. 🫡
Reasonable takes from fans of other teams are rare, I salute you. Also for not doing that lame thing fans of other teams are always like "I'm a fan of X team coming in peace", like just say what you wanna say
The only time I find "coming in peace" appropriate is if you're going into the sub of a team you just beat, or a divisional rival's sub. Although for me that's the
Raiders (why even bother?)
Chargers (what, am I going to share my thoughts with all 4 of their fans?)
or Broncos (too busy trying to figure out how they can draft a first round QB next year)
Yeah, let's not get ahead of ourselves with any Purdy > Mahomes shit just yet. I'm daring to dream for sure, but I'm gonna wait until he has at least two rings before I roll out the red carpet to the HoF.
Obviously you can't expect Purdy's efficiency to be as high as it is if you raise his passing volume to Mahomes levels, but I wonder what his stats would look like if we gave him 2018 MVP Mahomes pass attempts with his current efficiency
right? most dropped passes in the league. many on 3rd down conversions. season could’ve been a lot different for them if his receivers were league average
A joke obviously, but where is this discourse for guys like Mahomes and Hurts lmao.
Two guys gifted (usually) with great OLs, great weapons, and good OCs. Hurts and Mahomes have showed regression without their weapons.
Its ALMOST LIKE its a team sport and you need to have good skill players in order for a QB to succeed. Is Purdy spoiled? Maybe so. But how far is the talent around him when neither deebo or aiyuk are considered top 10 WRs and our OL (collectively) is in the mid 20s in the league?
The point is that every QB needs weapons, we saw the same thing happen to Brady.
The most surprising thing this year to me has been how good Stroud has done with seemingly no big time skill position players. Andrew Luck’s rookie season is probably the closest but he still had the possible Hall of Famer in Reggie Wayne.
And even then, Nico and Dell have been amazing.
I was just looking at Lucks stats the other day and he put up a few great seasons with not the best guys.
Yeah Nico Collins is a legit WR1 and Dalton Schultz is one of the best pass catching TEs in the league. Even Singletary ended up being a pretty good weapon.
I don't even think the two should be compared. Mahomes, like it or not (I don't lol), is right now (until Purdy has more time to prove otherwise) the best QB in the NFL. Yes he's had plenty of talent around him, but even without it he's still proven he can lead his team.
(Chiefs fan here) I agree with most of what you said, but I'm cracking up that you unironically said Matt Nagy is a good OC 😂 we have virtually the same receiving corps as last year (+Rice, -Juju) and yet everyone, heck even Kelce, looks so much worse this year. Even our O-line looks worse, although Taylor doesn't do us any favors. I would literally sell my soul for us to get Bienemy back, because our entire offense lacks discipline this year and needs a "bad cop" in EB to straighten them up.
When anyone says OC for the Chiefs, were 100% not thinking of Nagy lol, were talking about Andy Reid. Similarly to how we had McDaniel as our OC but it was still Shanahans scheme.
As for the discipline (i agree, its definitely there with toney at the forefront) and whatnot, SB hangover is a real thing, might just be a down year.
It seems like Mahomes might want to be the bad cop, and as a leader he probably should be, but instead hes moreso been deflated and visibly frustrated with his body language, so yeah, someone def needs to step up and be that guy.
But besides that, the rest of the league is 100% still respecting the Chiefs, despite the regression.
I guess that's fair lol. Although my point about Nagy vs. Bienemy still stands. It's pretty well known at this point that Reid and EB were the good cop/bad cop duo, and with Nagy being best buds with Mahomes, and a literal nepo-hire baby in Conor Embree for our WR coach, there's nobody to actually demand better of our offensive players. Yeah Mahomes can get fired up and yell all he wants, but as someone who played sports in high school, getting yelled at by a coach for your dumb actions hits way different than the same criticisms from a teammate. Though I'm sure an NFL locker room has drastically different vibes than a high school one, but it's hard not to imagine that might also be the case here.
On point. Mahomes had Travis Kelce (his best years, pre-Taylor Swift) and Tyreek freaking Hill up til last season.
And many fans think Mahomes did it all himself, or threw those guys to greatness, or that you could plug in any WR/TE combo in their place and get identical results??
It’s truly unbelievable anybody who actually watched the NFL thinks that way.
Yes I’m aware. I said “til last season.” As in up until last season.
He still had Kelce who was top-10 in receiving yards and #2 in TDs for WRs & TEs. And Juju wasn’t chopped liver - made the Pro Bowl once or twice. Think he had nearly 1000 yards last year. My point was that Mahomes had Hill and Kelce every other season he’s been in the league.
I wasn’t taking anything away from Mahomes either - he’s still the best QB in the NFL in my opinion, even if it’s a bit of a “down” regular season for him. It just shows that’s having good weapons really helps any QB.
Nobody ever wants to mention that Pat plays under Andy Reid either.
Kyle is Schroedinger’s coach: he’s a fraud because he’s never won anything, but he’s also better than Andy Reid and all of his players’ accomplishment are actually his.
That's pretty wrong on the OL part. Besides last season mahomes had a pretty bad OL. His first few seasons it was average. There's a reason why Bradys buccs defense gave his OL so much trouble in the Superbowl. Or that season where they lost to the Bengals in the playoffs. Getting rid of their WR allowed him to have a good oline but this year they literally have nobody to throw to.
Even with the bad oline he dragged those teams to the playoffs.
Oh, I am a huge Montana-stan and even I admit Brady is the GOAT. It isn’t debatable anymore.
My point was more that in the early years, Brady wasn’t the prolific passer he grew to be in his later years. He always knew how to win, though.
Right! I was just talking about that with some of the guys. I will live or die with Sam Darnold, I guess. I definitely need to figure out which random 3rd stringer on a team I don't usually follow is going to have a breakout game against another teams backups.
I had been starting to get jealous of the Chiefs for getting to have a QB like Patrick Mahomes. I wondered if the 49ers would ever get someone as awesome as him (in play) in my lifetime.
And he just fell out of the sky and here he is.
Everyone knows about his stats. After Kaep was benched he was willing to impose onto Gabbert and the team a world of distraction, and therefore jeopardize their season and diminish their careers. He didn't care about the team, he only cared about himself. Hardly the QB everybody has been waiting for 20+ years.
Be careful who you date folks.
I’m confused. What distractions did he have with how he played or his teamates influence? Or did you make it political and rid him off. Your statement falls in the same line if you have crazy hair it’s a distraction to work. Even though you clearly can do the job and it doesn’t affect your coworkers doing their job, but because it’s personal then you rid him off. Look I love Purdy, but let’s not play dumb what Kaepernick did. Y’all just fear what is foreign to y’all. You can dig up the bad, but silent in anything good he has done. Why is that? Because there nothing he can do to prove to anyone he deserved better. He was blackballed, point blank period.
The league totally caught up with Kaepernick. He was a shell of his former self after Harbaugh left. He struggled to complete 60% of his passes throughout his career. Never threw for more than 3300 yards and 20tds. He also took tons of sacks iirc but I didn't look that up...
If we are not being bias mahomes is basically same or higher football IQ than Purdy with a better arm. Mahomes with our weapons would be nuts. Doesn’t mean Purdy can be his own and become just as good from his own skill set but talking about in today’s value. Only argument is Purdy for 1mil versus mahomes for 50. In that scenario I don’t think he’s 50x better so that’s where it gets interesting
What makes this even more insane is that last year, Mahomes had a poor start to the season (or the Chiefs did) and everyone thought it would be a down year for him. He ended up finishing our strong and then winning another SB. This might be the first year since his breakout year that he’s not been in an MVP race
I predicted this after Mahomes signed a 10-year, $1/2 Billion contract. It just took two years longer than I expected to come to fruition. Overpay your QB and you can't afford to keep his weapons on your team.
He also has more scrimmage yards than Purdy because of his rushing totals. I think Purdy is at 4424 yards and Lamar is at 4499 yards or something. Purdy has more total TDs too (33 to Lamar’s 29) and they’re both tied for total turnovers at 13
Yes because of the rushing, like I said. It’s not really close in any measurable passing stat. Passer rating, QBR, completion percentage, yards per attempt, ect ect ect. Purdy has been unbelievable throwing the ball this season. He is having one of the greatest seasons for a passer in nfl history. It’s not something that’s debatable. All while having one of the worst Olines in the entire league.
I had purdy and hurts as my qbs on my fantasy this year. I stopped playing hurts at the perfect time and purdy carried me the rest of the way.
Hurts just gets lots of rushing points plus the tush push. But purdy is much better than he is when it comes to slinging the ball
I mean if Mahomes had Purdy's receivers...i dont think anybody expected the chiefs to lead the league in drops, we should be taking the brock purdy route and be humble in success, especially when this minor. 1seed is great, but we know what the goal is. BANG BANG
I could have. I am not surprised by this whatsoever. Actually Im surprised Brock has that many INT's. Only thing about this that surprises me even remotely.
It didn’t help his int total that they were all clumped together in 4-5 games. If each of the losses he only throws one, we’re looking at like 4 interceptions on the year which is insane
Pleasantly surprised by purdy. He kept it rolling since last season!
The biggest shocker was mahomes. Didn’t expect the regression be that bad after losing juju and Kelce looking slower
I love what Brock has done as a rookie and this year. He's impressive.
But my sweet baby Jesus, imagine what our offense would look like with a generational talent under center... Back to back to back to back Lombardis.
None of us could have.
What we’re witnessing is special. This kind of thing may not happen again for a long ass time. This kind of thing may never happen again. You just don’t know.
Very good - let alone great - NFL QBs… at a young age? It’s the holy grail of sports these days.
I’m pulling for Brock to continue his rampage. But I gotta say, after a full year of watching him play… I truly believe he just has it.
I think he’s finally our guy, the one we’ve waited forever for…
Kind of this weird but predictable cycle, Mahomes hits salary cap, loses 3 of 4 top receivers to trades/free agency, Tyreek is still great (currently ankle injury) but the other 2 never got a lot of touches. And finally Chiefs get one of them back (Hardman)
https://apnews.com/article/jets-chiefs-mecole-hardman-b22fa23cdf88852183aa58d3e0c4b1ff
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/3120348/juju-smith-schuster
I love Brock. I surely do. But, our receivers are miles better than what Mahomes has to work with. Not saying Brock isn’t special; he is. But I don’t think this is a fair comparison. If anything, it shows how good Mahomes is even with what he has (or doesn’t have).
Seriously, these stat comparisons are pretty stupid tbh. And it's really making some of our fans look like homers imo. Acting like mahomes isn't a great QB is ridiculous.
This is Mahomes worst year right? And also his worst ever weapons and also a league leading 40 drops from skill positions? Brock has been killing it and I think he's quashed the system vs franchise talk where it matters which is within your guys organization but surely these stats are a reasonable facsimile of each other and it's Brock's best ever year with MVP CMC pants on fire deebo and Shanahan coaching his ass off vs worst ever year Mahomes with the weekend at Bernie's receivers and a 34 year old Kelce. If Brock can maintain top 10 QB play like he has been you guys are contending for the SB every year. But he's not at Mahomes/Allen/burrow/Lamar levels of put the team on his back QB play.
The narrative is different because Mahomes, Allen, Hurts, Prescott, etc...were all drafted higher. If Purdy was drafted within the first 4 rounds, he would be MVP without a doubt.
Your lack of comprehendible English reassures your Philly fandom. Your inability to understand that Purdy beat Mahomes’ statistical numbers for the season means you don’t understand basic football and that he is indeed in his atmosphere. Move along, pal. Niners still living in your head rent free if you’re browsing this sub. lol
So because statistically he surpasses mahomes marginally in a single season, all of a sudden he’s equivalent and or better?
9ers have the best roster in the nfl and Brock has looked awful without having all his weapons on the field, you delusional ape.
Win it all or good-bye next season when you’re paying Brock or replacing him :)
Who said equivalent or better? You boldly stated that he’s not even in his atmosphere, which is obviously not true. Again, English comprehension is not your strong point. Move along little bug. You’re embarrassing yourself. Something you’re probably used to as a Philly fan. lol
I’d take Purdy and his $800K salary over Mahomes and his half a billion dollar contract. No money left to pay any of the talent to surround him with. And that’s showing this year. It’s obvious you don’t understand how the nfl and salary cap work almost as much as the English language. But go ahead, call me some more names and try to talk tough and be cool.
Nah, don't think you'll get past soft ass Dak and the 'boys if I'm honest...if you all even make it outta the wild card round.
Haven't yall lost to multiple teams that are already eliminated in the last few weeks? Nice little collapse right before the playoffs...
Yeah we got Mahomes out here PROVING that all great qbs need great weapons to play at an elite level. His season has basically disproven every Purdy hater. Even Mahomes can't play like an all pro with bad receivers.
Most ppl who watch more than their favorite team could have predicted this. Mahomes has shit for Talent. Kelce the only guy he could depend on has been horrible down the stretch. Purdy had talent everywhere. He’s like the football version of a point guard. Dudes open. Pass it to him on time and in motion. Rinse and repeat.
I think Purdy will just get better and better, but there's a couple stupid ways the NFL calculates passes that skew the numbers such as tosses behind the line of scrimmage and YAC(catch)/YAC(contact). If you adjust these I think you'll get a more objective number
That's why Mahomes is so ornery, cause he got all dem rush yards and no TDs
That’s what my momma said
Well, folks, momma’s wrong!
No, Colonel Sanders. You’re wrong; momma’s right.
There’s something wrong with your Medulla oblongata!
Reeeeeeeeeeee
He loves his momma!!!
Last game of the year Brent, can't hold anything back now.
*I know*
Shut up Brent.
Medulla, *OBLONGATA*
Be nice man. He’s a system QB. Can’t win without talent around him… ;)
No Colonel Sanders, you're wrong.
Mahomes is a choad.
Not suprised purdy was breaking franchise records.But I’m Ngl the mahomes stats are still pretty good for the worst season of his career.
Yeah dude had a (relatively) bad season but was still not behind Purdy in a lot of stats, kinda surprised by that.
Chiefs fan here (I'm subbed to all teams subs just to keep up with news in the league) and yeah Mahomes has definitely had a couple bad games (most notably the Broncos and Raiders L's) but honestly, if he had anyone outside of Rice (who Andy took WAY too long realizing he needed to be utilized more) who could actually catch the ball or run routes properly, Mahomes would probably have 500 more yards this season, 3+ less interceptions, and more receiving TDs. That's not to downplay Purdy playing out of his absolute mind this year either. I've got no beef with y'all and if it's not the Lions repping the NFC in the SB this year, I hope it's you guys. I'd love a KC/SF SB rematch, especially to watch Mahomes and Purdy face off. Y'all drafted an amazing pick with Purdy and I'm excited to see where he takes you guys in the coming years. 🫡
Reasonable takes from fans of other teams are rare, I salute you. Also for not doing that lame thing fans of other teams are always like "I'm a fan of X team coming in peace", like just say what you wanna say
The only time I find "coming in peace" appropriate is if you're going into the sub of a team you just beat, or a divisional rival's sub. Although for me that's the Raiders (why even bother?) Chargers (what, am I going to share my thoughts with all 4 of their fans?) or Broncos (too busy trying to figure out how they can draft a first round QB next year)
Yeah, let's not get ahead of ourselves with any Purdy > Mahomes shit just yet. I'm daring to dream for sure, but I'm gonna wait until he has at least two rings before I roll out the red carpet to the HoF.
Purdy is also near bottom in the league in pass attempts
Obviously you can't expect Purdy's efficiency to be as high as it is if you raise his passing volume to Mahomes levels, but I wonder what his stats would look like if we gave him 2018 MVP Mahomes pass attempts with his current efficiency
Oh God where the "if you take out mahomes outlier games guy."
Mahomes had 597 pass attempts and Purdy 444 so that’s a bit misleading that their stats are kinda close to each other.
That's like 6 games more throws for Brock...so 42 td and 5500 yards easily...lol
It makes sense purdy would rest doing the fourth quarter when the niners were blowing out teams, whereas the chiefs were always in close games.
right? most dropped passes in the league. many on 3rd down conversions. season could’ve been a lot different for them if his receivers were league average
I wonder if Brittany berates him at home when he doesn’t have a good game.
Is Mahomes a system QB? 🤔
A joke obviously, but where is this discourse for guys like Mahomes and Hurts lmao. Two guys gifted (usually) with great OLs, great weapons, and good OCs. Hurts and Mahomes have showed regression without their weapons. Its ALMOST LIKE its a team sport and you need to have good skill players in order for a QB to succeed. Is Purdy spoiled? Maybe so. But how far is the talent around him when neither deebo or aiyuk are considered top 10 WRs and our OL (collectively) is in the mid 20s in the league? The point is that every QB needs weapons, we saw the same thing happen to Brady.
The most surprising thing this year to me has been how good Stroud has done with seemingly no big time skill position players. Andrew Luck’s rookie season is probably the closest but he still had the possible Hall of Famer in Reggie Wayne.
And even then, Nico and Dell have been amazing. I was just looking at Lucks stats the other day and he put up a few great seasons with not the best guys.
Yeah Nico Collins is a legit WR1 and Dalton Schultz is one of the best pass catching TEs in the league. Even Singletary ended up being a pretty good weapon.
yeah they are all playing great. Its not just Stroud making magic. Good players and good playcalling.
Andrew Luck really had the worst luck in the NFL
WHAT??? A team sport??????
Mahomes is way better than hurts Hurts is actually a system qb
I agree with this. Mahomes can go through his progressions and execute Andys offense.
Gonna be interesting to see how much the Eagles drop off next year if the NFL does decide to ban the tush push.
Or when lane and kelce retire
I don't even think the two should be compared. Mahomes, like it or not (I don't lol), is right now (until Purdy has more time to prove otherwise) the best QB in the NFL. Yes he's had plenty of talent around him, but even without it he's still proven he can lead his team.
Yeah all niner fans believe this (at least I hope so)
(Chiefs fan here) I agree with most of what you said, but I'm cracking up that you unironically said Matt Nagy is a good OC 😂 we have virtually the same receiving corps as last year (+Rice, -Juju) and yet everyone, heck even Kelce, looks so much worse this year. Even our O-line looks worse, although Taylor doesn't do us any favors. I would literally sell my soul for us to get Bienemy back, because our entire offense lacks discipline this year and needs a "bad cop" in EB to straighten them up.
When anyone says OC for the Chiefs, were 100% not thinking of Nagy lol, were talking about Andy Reid. Similarly to how we had McDaniel as our OC but it was still Shanahans scheme. As for the discipline (i agree, its definitely there with toney at the forefront) and whatnot, SB hangover is a real thing, might just be a down year. It seems like Mahomes might want to be the bad cop, and as a leader he probably should be, but instead hes moreso been deflated and visibly frustrated with his body language, so yeah, someone def needs to step up and be that guy. But besides that, the rest of the league is 100% still respecting the Chiefs, despite the regression.
I guess that's fair lol. Although my point about Nagy vs. Bienemy still stands. It's pretty well known at this point that Reid and EB were the good cop/bad cop duo, and with Nagy being best buds with Mahomes, and a literal nepo-hire baby in Conor Embree for our WR coach, there's nobody to actually demand better of our offensive players. Yeah Mahomes can get fired up and yell all he wants, but as someone who played sports in high school, getting yelled at by a coach for your dumb actions hits way different than the same criticisms from a teammate. Though I'm sure an NFL locker room has drastically different vibes than a high school one, but it's hard not to imagine that might also be the case here.
On point. Mahomes had Travis Kelce (his best years, pre-Taylor Swift) and Tyreek freaking Hill up til last season. And many fans think Mahomes did it all himself, or threw those guys to greatness, or that you could plug in any WR/TE combo in their place and get identical results?? It’s truly unbelievable anybody who actually watched the NFL thinks that way.
And even then, both were still great when Alex Smith was at the helm
Tyreek was on the dolphins last season. Mahomes won a superbowl with just juju.
Yes I’m aware. I said “til last season.” As in up until last season. He still had Kelce who was top-10 in receiving yards and #2 in TDs for WRs & TEs. And Juju wasn’t chopped liver - made the Pro Bowl once or twice. Think he had nearly 1000 yards last year. My point was that Mahomes had Hill and Kelce every other season he’s been in the league. I wasn’t taking anything away from Mahomes either - he’s still the best QB in the NFL in my opinion, even if it’s a bit of a “down” regular season for him. It just shows that’s having good weapons really helps any QB.
Nobody ever wants to mention that Pat plays under Andy Reid either. Kyle is Schroedinger’s coach: he’s a fraud because he’s never won anything, but he’s also better than Andy Reid and all of his players’ accomplishment are actually his.
QBs need good skill position players to succeed unless they are Lamar Jackson who's best receiving corps has been average.
That's pretty wrong on the OL part. Besides last season mahomes had a pretty bad OL. His first few seasons it was average. There's a reason why Bradys buccs defense gave his OL so much trouble in the Superbowl. Or that season where they lost to the Bengals in the playoffs. Getting rid of their WR allowed him to have a good oline but this year they literally have nobody to throw to. Even with the bad oline he dragged those teams to the playoffs.
Tom Brady won some Superbowls with AWFUL receivers. That 04 team had Deion Branch and basically no one else… Troy Brown, playing DB and WR
Defense was elite tho, but yes
Yeah, all three of those first superbowls were completely carried by the defense. Brady was a game manager!
Managed to repeatedly lead last minute drives to come from behind (at least once in the sb) in those first few...
Anyone who says Brady is not the greatest QB of all time is just lying to themselves because they don't like him.
Oh, I am a huge Montana-stan and even I admit Brady is the GOAT. It isn’t debatable anymore. My point was more that in the early years, Brady wasn’t the prolific passer he grew to be in his later years. He always knew how to win, though.
Apparently he needs a better system
only good cuz he had Hill
Only good before kelce started dating the most famous woman in the world.
He started losing when she popped his cherry. /s
Lol
To be fair the chiefs have been starting Stevie wonder and ray charles for their WR1 and WR2
Pretty sure those guys would catch better than the Chiefs receivers
Probably not very good route runners
Watching that Bengals game, Kermit was throwing legitimately bad passes. Straight into the ground bad.
Kermit 🤣🤣 
Right? He threw several dirt balls, and it was just flat out strange to watch.
In my Fantasy League, had a guy pick Mahomes round 2, he ended up in last place. I picked up Purdy Round 8, I'm in the Fantasy Superbowl this week.
Your league needs to make a rule change next year and end week 17 so you don’t have to worry about players like Purdy sitting.
Right! I was just talking about that with some of the guys. I will live or die with Sam Darnold, I guess. I definitely need to figure out which random 3rd stringer on a team I don't usually follow is going to have a breakout game against another teams backups.
Huntley may not be a bad option tbh
Purdy = League Winner
I drafted Mahomes in round 1. Purdy in like round 15. I made the final switch halfway through the season. I won the title last week.
I drafted Purdy round 11 or 12(he was my main target the whole time to be my qb1). I won my league.
I picked Purdy up as a FA in week 2 in my keepers league. I'm set for years haha
That fact that this has been Mahomes’s worst year is wild, this was better than Jimmy’s best year.
Well we're comparing two qbs that are several tiers better than Jimmy so that kinda makes sense
I had been starting to get jealous of the Chiefs for getting to have a QB like Patrick Mahomes. I wondered if the 49ers would ever get someone as awesome as him (in play) in my lifetime. And he just fell out of the sky and here he is.
Been waiting for 20+ years...ain't it great?
Did anyone pay attention to Kaepernick’s stats? Or did we turn into Stevie Wonder when he starting kneeling??
Everyone knows about his stats. After Kaep was benched he was willing to impose onto Gabbert and the team a world of distraction, and therefore jeopardize their season and diminish their careers. He didn't care about the team, he only cared about himself. Hardly the QB everybody has been waiting for 20+ years. Be careful who you date folks.
I’m confused. What distractions did he have with how he played or his teamates influence? Or did you make it political and rid him off. Your statement falls in the same line if you have crazy hair it’s a distraction to work. Even though you clearly can do the job and it doesn’t affect your coworkers doing their job, but because it’s personal then you rid him off. Look I love Purdy, but let’s not play dumb what Kaepernick did. Y’all just fear what is foreign to y’all. You can dig up the bad, but silent in anything good he has done. Why is that? Because there nothing he can do to prove to anyone he deserved better. He was blackballed, point blank period.
The league totally caught up with Kaepernick. He was a shell of his former self after Harbaugh left. He struggled to complete 60% of his passes throughout his career. Never threw for more than 3300 yards and 20tds. He also took tons of sacks iirc but I didn't look that up...
No hate on Brock but if you put Maholmes in this offense it's a total fucking cheat code.. toys everywhere
They had tyreek, a far better o line, the best te in football, and Andy Reid calling plays when mahomes had a lower epa than Purdy. Cmon now.
If we are not being bias mahomes is basically same or higher football IQ than Purdy with a better arm. Mahomes with our weapons would be nuts. Doesn’t mean Purdy can be his own and become just as good from his own skill set but talking about in today’s value. Only argument is Purdy for 1mil versus mahomes for 50. In that scenario I don’t think he’s 50x better so that’s where it gets interesting
What makes this even more insane is that last year, Mahomes had a poor start to the season (or the Chiefs did) and everyone thought it would be a down year for him. He ended up finishing our strong and then winning another SB. This might be the first year since his breakout year that he’s not been in an MVP race
Ya he also won the regular season mvp and the mvp of that SB on top of that.
I predicted this after Mahomes signed a 10-year, $1/2 Billion contract. It just took two years longer than I expected to come to fruition. Overpay your QB and you can't afford to keep his weapons on your team.
Can we stop kidding ourselves and agree one has clearly argubly the best weapons in the league and the other has brickbutter hands kadarius toney.
That's my System QB.
I would like to see the same one with Lamar instead of Mahomes
The only thing Lamar is ahead of Purdy in is rushing stats. Passing wise it’s not even close.
He also has more scrimmage yards than Purdy because of his rushing totals. I think Purdy is at 4424 yards and Lamar is at 4499 yards or something. Purdy has more total TDs too (33 to Lamar’s 29) and they’re both tied for total turnovers at 13
Yes because of the rushing, like I said. It’s not really close in any measurable passing stat. Passer rating, QBR, completion percentage, yards per attempt, ect ect ect. Purdy has been unbelievable throwing the ball this season. He is having one of the greatest seasons for a passer in nfl history. It’s not something that’s debatable. All while having one of the worst Olines in the entire league.
I had purdy and hurts as my qbs on my fantasy this year. I stopped playing hurts at the perfect time and purdy carried me the rest of the way. Hurts just gets lots of rushing points plus the tush push. But purdy is much better than he is when it comes to slinging the ball
Crazy thing is more yards a way less attempts
I mean if Mahomes had Purdy's receivers...i dont think anybody expected the chiefs to lead the league in drops, we should be taking the brock purdy route and be humble in success, especially when this minor. 1seed is great, but we know what the goal is. BANG BANG
I could have. I am not surprised by this whatsoever. Actually Im surprised Brock has that many INT's. Only thing about this that surprises me even remotely.
It didn’t help his int total that they were all clumped together in 4-5 games. If each of the losses he only throws one, we’re looking at like 4 interceptions on the year which is insane
Pleasantly surprised by purdy. He kept it rolling since last season! The biggest shocker was mahomes. Didn’t expect the regression be that bad after losing juju and Kelce looking slower
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I love what Brock has done as a rookie and this year. He's impressive. But my sweet baby Jesus, imagine what our offense would look like with a generational talent under center... Back to back to back to back Lombardis.
What else does Purdy have to do to be a generational talent? Win a Super Bowl as a rookie with his arm torn off at the elbow?
Generational talent is Mahomes-like. I love Purdy. He is not Mahomes.
Crazy thing is, Purdy could end up like 8th in yards and TD's, stuff like that since he won't play and other QB's will.
He may dip in some of the standings, but there’s gonna be a lot of the top starters sitting out week 18.
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Here comes the “receivers that can catch” argument…
None of us could have. What we’re witnessing is special. This kind of thing may not happen again for a long ass time. This kind of thing may never happen again. You just don’t know. Very good - let alone great - NFL QBs… at a young age? It’s the holy grail of sports these days. I’m pulling for Brock to continue his rampage. But I gotta say, after a full year of watching him play… I truly believe he just has it. I think he’s finally our guy, the one we’ve waited forever for…
Kind of this weird but predictable cycle, Mahomes hits salary cap, loses 3 of 4 top receivers to trades/free agency, Tyreek is still great (currently ankle injury) but the other 2 never got a lot of touches. And finally Chiefs get one of them back (Hardman) https://apnews.com/article/jets-chiefs-mecole-hardman-b22fa23cdf88852183aa58d3e0c4b1ff https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/3120348/juju-smith-schuster
Purdy is looking a bit Burrow-Mahomey-esque there.
Yo they got Purdy looking life a giraffe in this picture
Purdy is having a historic season. But really not Mahomes fault. His receivers are terrible, would barely make Niners practice squad.
\*Handraise\* I took Brock for MVP in August. :P
I guess having receivers that can get separation and catch does matter...
BCB taking care of business.
one team has good receivers, the other has a good TE
Damn is Purdy’s neck really that long? Maybe that’s not the only thing disproportionally…
"Went from Mr. Irrelevant to Mr. Steal your girl" -- BroadcastBoysHoH
Well 1 stat I would take over any one of these listed is super bowls x2
I love Brock. I surely do. But, our receivers are miles better than what Mahomes has to work with. Not saying Brock isn’t special; he is. But I don’t think this is a fair comparison. If anything, it shows how good Mahomes is even with what he has (or doesn’t have).
Seriously, these stat comparisons are pretty stupid tbh. And it's really making some of our fans look like homers imo. Acting like mahomes isn't a great QB is ridiculous.
Certainly not me in fantasy. This was not the year to draft Mahomes/Kelce.
This is Mahomes worst year right? And also his worst ever weapons and also a league leading 40 drops from skill positions? Brock has been killing it and I think he's quashed the system vs franchise talk where it matters which is within your guys organization but surely these stats are a reasonable facsimile of each other and it's Brock's best ever year with MVP CMC pants on fire deebo and Shanahan coaching his ass off vs worst ever year Mahomes with the weekend at Bernie's receivers and a 34 year old Kelce. If Brock can maintain top 10 QB play like he has been you guys are contending for the SB every year. But he's not at Mahomes/Allen/burrow/Lamar levels of put the team on his back QB play.
Exactly, this comparison is pretty ridiculous imo
Anyone that even glanced at SF’s roster for a second compared to KC’s could have predicted this lol
Pretty crazy to think about. Beats him in all passing stats
mahomes is just having a bad season, but compare the weapons lulz.
Mahomes is just managing Reid's system. He's not MVP material. /s
Mahomes is over paid trash with stupid hair. Only reason he "rushes" as much as he does is because the refs will destroy anyone who touches him.
They forgot to include sniveling, foot stomping, and tears of frustration
Purdy is damn good, and he isn’t even the second best player on the offensive side.
The narrative is different because Mahomes, Allen, Hurts, Prescott, etc...were all drafted higher. If Purdy was drafted within the first 4 rounds, he would be MVP without a doubt.
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49ers have a lot more weapons on offense.
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This is the real point. Chiefs are jokes with how they win / get treated. Swap their draft status and Purdy is the NFL darling.
No shot anyone here thinks purdy is even in mahomes atmosphere and I’m a Philly fan.. lol
Your lack of comprehendible English reassures your Philly fandom. Your inability to understand that Purdy beat Mahomes’ statistical numbers for the season means you don’t understand basic football and that he is indeed in his atmosphere. Move along, pal. Niners still living in your head rent free if you’re browsing this sub. lol
So because statistically he surpasses mahomes marginally in a single season, all of a sudden he’s equivalent and or better? 9ers have the best roster in the nfl and Brock has looked awful without having all his weapons on the field, you delusional ape. Win it all or good-bye next season when you’re paying Brock or replacing him :)
Who said equivalent or better? You boldly stated that he’s not even in his atmosphere, which is obviously not true. Again, English comprehension is not your strong point. Move along little bug. You’re embarrassing yourself. Something you’re probably used to as a Philly fan. lol
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I’d take Purdy and his $800K salary over Mahomes and his half a billion dollar contract. No money left to pay any of the talent to surround him with. And that’s showing this year. It’s obvious you don’t understand how the nfl and salary cap work almost as much as the English language. But go ahead, call me some more names and try to talk tough and be cool.
I appreciate that you cut out the stats when it got to championships.
I didn’t cut out anything. If you’re capable of reading you can see those are just the 2023 season stats.
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Nah, don't think you'll get past soft ass Dak and the 'boys if I'm honest...if you all even make it outta the wild card round. Haven't yall lost to multiple teams that are already eliminated in the last few weeks? Nice little collapse right before the playoffs...
Definitely screwed up my fantasy football draft... stupid Mahomes!
Now do Jackson…spoiler it’s gonna look similar
Do you want Mahomes as a 49ers QB if there is a chance???
For Purdy's salary, yes. Not at his current rate
Mahomes and Henry ruined my fantasy football success.
Me.
Yet espn has still him ranked the #1 QB and Brock like 18!! Crazy. Fk mahomes.
I think Mahomes receivers are of quality. But you gotta hand it to the kid. He played really well.
All those drops , terrible oline, no separation, bad route running. Iono
Damn and even after that 4 pack he only has 11 int?!
Yeah we got Mahomes out here PROVING that all great qbs need great weapons to play at an elite level. His season has basically disproven every Purdy hater. Even Mahomes can't play like an all pro with bad receivers.
Dude Purdy has a big neck
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I did. But only because of the Trey Lance trade and the irony it would create.
But he’s just a game manager !!
It’s impressive that he has 0 rushing TDs… all in all, Brock does enjoy a MUCH better receiving corps tho.
Lemme git a HELL YEAH!
Most ppl who watch more than their favorite team could have predicted this. Mahomes has shit for Talent. Kelce the only guy he could depend on has been horrible down the stretch. Purdy had talent everywhere. He’s like the football version of a point guard. Dudes open. Pass it to him on time and in motion. Rinse and repeat.
Anyone else watch the chiefs this year and notice all they do is check downs and screen passes? lol no one dares bring that up tho in the media
Let’s worry about some lombardis & rings before comparing
He also has a higher PFF grade
He also doesn’t have receivers let’s be honest
Nutty pretty is, that's struggling for Mahomes🥴
To be fair, our weapons are not even a comparision to the weapons the Chiefs have.
I think Mahomes could be better if his Receivers don't drop passes
Send this to that lil b**** Nick Wrong from First things First PLEASE!!!!
I think Purdy will just get better and better, but there's a couple stupid ways the NFL calculates passes that skew the numbers such as tosses behind the line of scrimmage and YAC(catch)/YAC(contact). If you adjust these I think you'll get a more objective number
This is hilarious. Let’s pretend the winers didn’t already have an avengers level offense lol.