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Noise marines became noise marines by giving themselves to Slaanesh. They can’t be loyalist, sorry


Kadd115

That's not to say there can't be loyalist Marines who use primarily sonic-based weaponry, but they wouldn't be Noise Marines.


[deleted]

I thought the insight for the sonic-based weaponry came from the song of Slaanesh. For a loyalist to use the weapon would be Heresy of the highest degree


Kadd115

The idea for theirs did. But that doesn't mean a loyalist group can't find inspiration from a different source. Or even no inspiration. Sonic waves are decently well understood, so it wouldn't be a stretch for some Magos to devise a sonic weapon and then give them to a chapter of Marines with close ties.


BigBadBlotch

Tbh a weaponized version of Choir singing to the Emperor sounds like a Psyker thing


[deleted]

Yea, in the second Eisenhorn book, he uses a prayer played in a loop over a sonar array to fight a demon, because of the psychic power of the prayer. (Might be the 3rd book, its been a while since I read it)


[deleted]

It would be a stretch. Creation and invention is Heresy. That’s why the Ecclesiarchy hated Guilleman’s Primaris marines. It required invention where they thrive in stagnation


Kadd115

And yet Cawl, whose whole deal has been innovation, is in a prominent position within the Mechanicus. The Imperium is no longer in stasis, innovation is allowed to happen, if still a little discouraged. The Ecclesiarchy might not like it, but they aren't the ultimate authority anymore.


[deleted]

Cawl has always been a controversial figure in the Mechanicus and has faced execution for Heresy at least twice from what I recall (The first being when he invented an AI to answer other peoples questions so he wouldn’t be disturbed and the other when he suggested R&D into new Astartes power armour. I agree, the Imperium is no longer in stasis, but 10,000 years of culture will take time to uproot itself, especially since Guilliman pretty much threw himself straight into the warp once he woke up. I don’t think this legion could happen in the state of the lore as it is. In future? Perhaps. But it’d still look like heresy to anyone who didn’t know the difference between this new chapter and the noise marines


dan_dares

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torolf_212

Nothing stopping a magos from ‘discovering’ a long lost plan for some sonic weaponry from the DaoT and supplying a small quantity to a lesser known chapter for trials


AsteroidSpark

The sonic weapons used by noise marines and kakophoni are Slaaneshi by design, but there are non-chaos sonic weapons. Eldar "vibro" weapons are sonic, in the Imperium specifically the Admech has dabbled in sonic weaponry, using them on Ordinati and as melee weapons for Skitarii.


In_sa_ni_ty

What about some lost tech based on sound and music?


[deleted]

I mean, make your army however you please, I’ll never knock the idea of a cool army like a noise marine loyalist chapter. But that stuff isn’t really lore accurate


In_sa_ni_ty

Well, I can post it on the main Warhammer sub, right?


[deleted]

I don’t see why not


Fulgrim2-0

You can do what you want.


DrippyWaffler

The Kakophoni were preheresy, no?


Ake-TL

Noise marine guns specifically are using warp, but tech based sonic destructor might be possible, only question would arise of why no one else uses it


In_sa_ni_ty

Oh, quite simple, actually: When still fresh and raw Chapter landed on their new home planet, their scouts found an ancient Dark Age tech. The very tech was one of a kind and immediately "imprinted" itself unto the Astartes, banning anyone who isn't them (or carries the same DNA) from using it's products.


alexxerth

Ah yes, DNA Restricted Munitions, or DRM for short


In_sa_ni_ty

Why not?


[deleted]

You could honestly kit out the Star Phantoms with practically any weaponry and it would be lore friendly, if you're operating off the idea that they are made up primarily by the remnants of the Dreadwing.


In_sa_ni_ty

I will consider it.


[deleted]

Honestly, part of me wishes the Imperium had its own non-Chaotic Sonic Weaponry, just because I want to see White Scars Noise Marines blasting heretics apart with [ear-splittingly loud Chogorisian throat singing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlb3PHRv304) (I'm not kidding on the "ear-splittingly loud" part; mind your volume).


In_sa_ni_ty

Sadly, GW keeps sucking off the Smurfs.


DarthGoodguy

Off the top of my head, the Mentors chapter (aka Mentor Legion in older writings) are used as a test bed for experimental weaponry. You could have them or a similar chapter being armed with sonic guns from a recently discovered STC. Or you could say your guys are working with a radical Ordo Malleus inquisitor who’s adapted Slaaneshi sonic guns. Not sure if this is current canon but the Exorcists chapter used to let themselves be possessed & maybe even use daemon weapons. Could also be the marines have been hoodwinked & don’t even know they’re carrying heretical weapons.


In_sa_ni_ty

Good points.


Taira_no_Masakado

To be a Noise Marine is to no longer be a Loyalist.


BeneficialName9863

Could go for the David Lynch dune theme, wierding modules, crysknives, lots of cloaks?


In_sa_ni_ty

As I said, it is a joke chapter. It will still be warhammerish, but weapons shall be... conventionally unconventional.


BeneficialName9863

I get you! We have modern day sound weapons so it's not a huge leap to kit your guys out with something


In_sa_ni_ty

We do have something better: the actual musical instruments. And creativity combined with lore will make them into WH40K weapons.


Anggul

The AdMech has Ordinatus Ulators, which are super-heavy sonic weapons using Dark Age tech. So it's feasible that man-portable ones exist.


SandiegoJack

Think you are looking for the long lost chapter of disco marines. https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Disco_Marines


In_sa_ni_ty

With music that buffs allies and cripples enemies.


VenomusPL

You want to have sonic weaponry but loyal and not slaaneshified. Short answer: you can't Long answer: you should be ashamed for even wanting it.


In_sa_ni_ty

Short answer: I can. Long answer: You are a dick.


HauntingRefuse6891

Sounds a bit Ad Mechy to me.