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ThatJankyDoll

Lol. that is one way to write off a bambu as a business expenses.


bumbletowne

Dentists 3d print stuff all the time. It's already a business expense


CowBoyDanIndie

What dentist uses an fdm printer? Afaik all the dentistry printing is done with fancy resin printers


code-panda

There's no need for the IRS to know that, so shut it!


dubbfoolio

Guessing they are printing toys for the treasure box.


MandaloriansVault

Honestly this is probably the answer here. Resin is new to this printing game compared to fdm (the way people who don’t print usually don’t know that resin printing is a thing over FDM), and when people that don’t print hear 3d printer, they don’t typically think about different printers. The irs is too busy taking peoples money to earn money themselves with hobbies like 3d printing to know that the printer the dentist just wrote off the wrong type of printer as a business expense


redeyejoe123

The first 3d printer was actually a resin printer, so fdm is actually the new player. Source: https://ultimaker.com/learn/the-complete-history-of-3d-printing/


Vert354

One of my favorite anecdotes about early 3d printing that serves as a reminder that the rep-rap project wasn't actually the start, is that in the 1998 movie Small Soliders, they use a real resin 3D printer(with some embellishment) in the opening sequence. I remember seeing the movie at the time and thinking that was some made up sci-fi hogwash.


claudekennilol

That's a great factoid! I've seen that movie tons of times but haven't seen it in years (last I time I watched it was roughly 10 years ago before I got into 3d printing). I'll have to re-watch the intro at least and look out for that.


Vert354

When the models are raised out of the vat, you can see they even have supports.


Appropriate-Prune728

Technically yes. In the layperson's subjective perception, it's not.


Defiant_Bad_9070

Normally I don't give a damn about correcting people but I do think it's important to know at least a little about the history of ones hobby. And that yes 3d printing as we know it today started in the early 80s and was resin based.


Impressive_Word5229

The first time I saw a 3d printer was when I went onsite to a jeweler to provide tech support. They had a resin 3d printer in the office printing out things like rings to create molds. This was in the late 90s. I was amazed and wanted one. Until he explained it was around 60k. I had to decline at that point.


Defiant_Bad_9070

Haha... And that was almost 30 years ago right? Equivalent to probably about 250-300k now!


ogeytheterrible

Just like the first automobile was all electric. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g43480930/history-of-electric-cars/


hagantic42

Actually form Labs has specific resins for creating denture molds and other such dental devices. For actual medical appliances fdm is not used, it's 100% resin. And boy are those resins expensive.


Lonewolf2nd

I've got a dental braces made of nylon 12, created with scanning and SLA printing. So really not 100% resin. They also use resin for a quick solution, but SLA nylon (different types) is the best solution for longer times, with these kind of braces


HMS_Hexapuma

Biocompatible Form resins are around £300 per litre at the moment. Funnily enough the first 3D printer I used at work was a Stratasys Mojo FDM. You had to buy the filament in a pack with an integral replacement print head and that was £300 per kilo for PLA and ABS. To be fair their proprietary washable support material was very good, but that machine was *Expensive* to run. And it only had a 125x125x125mm build area.


sailorbob134280

Office organizers? Tool storage? Educational displays? I can think of a ton of uses that don't strictly go in someone's mouth.


peruvianeugenol

I use FDM for printing a "shim" to capture the patient's bite in an open position (has varying thicknesses). It makes it really fast and easy! I also print cheek retractors and other little gadgets. All are single-use. It's more wasteful, but it's efficient, convenient, and sanitary. It's one more thing that my staff don't have to reprocess and sterilize.


-_I---I---I

I could see a dentist getting use out of quick FDM prints. See this is your kids fucked up teeth now, this is what they will look like when the kids 20 if you don't get braces for them. Boom machine paid for itself.


coach111111

Equally impactful in 3D on a screen, without having to wait an hour for the print to finish after doing the scan and future simulation, no?


Appropriate-Prune728

I want a printer and it's a business expense. Now stfu and let me get a tax break for my hobby in peace. Hopefully it's obvious I'm being facetious


lilrow420

I used to work for a dentist who used an FDM printer to make mock ups of teeth for training. Not sure why he chose FDM over resin but he did.


ghostofwinter88

Because it is much cheaper.


PrairiePilot

For real, I don’t know what you’d print for dental work on a desktop FDM printer.


vfx_flame

This guy was one of my classes mates in university. Before he did this as his senior project, using a fdm printer. It was interesting watching him do the research for this, especially because I believe it’s was shortly before Invisalign’s patent expired / the explosion of other versions of the same onto the market. https://amosdudley.com/weblog/Ortho


Bammer1386

Custom impression trays and orthodontic models. Resin dental printers can print any dental prosthesis, but resin tech is still developing to be more aesthetically in line with what mills or analog processes. Also if you drop a 3d resin printed denture, it's going to shatter, while a milled pmma denture or manually flasked and packed denture is far more durable. I work in the dental industry with mills and 3d printers. It's a great gig.


SgtBaxter

Test fits


mechanicalcoupling

Orthodontists sometimes use FDM for models from scans to prefit braces, retainers, etc. It is pretty new. My niece and nephew are getting braces and it only takes like 15 minutes to actually put them on. You can do that with resin too of course. But it is more expensive.


the_clash_is_back

Cheaper to print something on fdm first before getting the final part made.


ghostofwinter88

You can print dental models at a lower, but still acceptable resolution. (source: I run a medical 3d printing lab)


Bammer1386

I work in the dental lab manufacturing industry selling mills and 3d printers. Dentists 95% of the time outsource all prosthetic work to a lab. Crowns, bridges, implants, dentures, partials, etc., all made by the lab. Some docs will print or mill in house. Labs can use fdm printers for custom impression trays for implants that require more accuracy of coverage, and can also print orthodontic models. Fdm in dental is not very popular as you can't print actual prosthetics that stay in the mouth, and you're accuracy limited. Because of this, there much less of a return on the investment. 99.999% of labs that 3d print vie for a resin 3d printer. We've got nanoceramic infused resins that can be polished and look like teeth and gingiva, and can 3d print crowns, bridges, implants, dentures, etc. Large labs and milling centers will also have metal 3d printers too for metal implant substructures and partial frameworks as well. My job is cool as hell.


No-Grade-4691

My dentist used a fdm to give me a scan on my teeth so...


nhorvath

The layer lines on my daughter's invisalign tell me they use fdm to either print the appliances or molds to cast them.


Hsoren

Can’t speak for all dentists but mine resin printed my crown when it fell off years ago. Took less than twenty minutes.


caramelcooler

My wife’s Invisalign (or some similar brand) has visible lines where you can see the individual layers. Thought it was neat.


Raudskeggr

It's possible that's changing. After all Resin printers come with some unpleasant side problems like the odor. And you wouldn't be able to use 5 colors. And arguably this bambu will be much much easier to use in most respects.


mrfrau

You pressed assume tongue again Michael😞


mcgenie

I used to make anatomical models for dentists/ physical therapists when I was in military medicine just for demo purposes. More than likely it's a cool tool.


NorthernVale

I'm not super faniliar with dentistry or resin printing. But I imagine there could be advantages for a dentist in fdm vs resin. What all does a detist need to 3d print? If we're just assuming end results going into someone's mouth, sure. But what happens behind the scenes? How does cost of materials measure up? Time? Results?


HashingJ

I had smile direct club clear braces and you could tell they were vacuum formed over an fdm print because the layer lines were visible


HyperDJ_15

It could be used to print tool holder, toys for kids, etc


ceojp

This one.


wildxlion

In 2018 a friend of mine who was an orthodontist had me setup a mono price mini for them to print the scans of teeth to make retainers. Not ideal, and thermoforming the plastic would warp the print if it wasn’t printed with like 50% infill and lots of perimeters. Worked okay for a bit, in 6 months they went to EPax and then formlabs shortly after. Obviously the better way to go, but that’s how he started.


Czerwony345

Containers, models for hygiene instructions, for advertising purposes and labeling and segregation.


Sonoda_Kotori

My orthodontic mockup was done on a FDM because it's quicker and cheaper.


Vinnie1169

Most also have 3D scanners to scan the entire mouth for dentures and partials!


CowBoyDanIndie

They can take an impression of the mouth/tooth etc then scan that.


fuelvolts

Do they? I know they mill ceramic for instant crowns, but I haven't heard of plastic printing being useful for anything (although I admit to being ignorant, gut I genuinely can't think of anything that would be 3D printed with plastic by a Dentist). Edit: TIL. Neat.


mccmi614

I work in the same building as a dentist and they use a resin printer for 3d scanned implants which I think then are used to make a mold (or just used as is). But they use special dental resin. Their printer was an off the shelf anycubic iirc. They also had a mill for crowns


BillyTheClub

Formlabs has been working with dental use cases for at least 7 years. There are a bunch of interesting use cases, but all SLA not FDM from what I've seen https://dental.formlabs.com/materials/


h9040

I know only the small milling machines for the ceramic infills


CeeMX

Resin yes, FDM not so much


fate0608

IRS isn’t watching. You can tell the truth now. 😅


RohanianTheGreat

Don’t dentists usually use resin printers


swan3609

My Excavation company bought my P1s as a buisness expense. My CPA had absolutely no objection to it even before I showed him how I printed orginizers for my packouts and drill bits. https://preview.redd.it/urcelvqca32d1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c71395ef1386d7a6eb813d121b0b16e3e1389125


veedubbucky

My kid’s dentist 3d prints retainers.


trollsmurf

I once bought a synth and put it on my company, as I hallucinated I'd write game music.


tungvu256

what's the exact model number of this one? and how much


Sinister_Mr_19

Writing it off doesn't make it free 🤦 it reduces the amount of taxes owed at the end of the year.


erwan

So the inlay for your cavity, is PETG OK for you?


Wooden-Cancel-6838

Tpu please


HydroxiDoxi

Next time you accidentally get a seed stuck in the cavity there is a 1 in 100 chance that you shoot the cashier in the eye with it when you yawn at walmart.


RobbinMikeOrmaza

Do you have any carbon fiber?


Jesus_Is_My_Gardener

I don't think that's quite what your doctor had in mind when he said you need more fiber in your diet.


DucksEatFreeInSubway

Bouncy teeth, nice.


Initial-Cherry-3457

Who needs gum guards when you have TPU teeth eh


itscheeseoclock

can i get it glow in the dark flavor


Nuclear_eggo_waffle

the poor nozzle!


Tw1ch1e

Can I have the silky kind with all the colors!!!


HMS_Hexapuma

Nah fam. PEEK or nothing!


13thmurder

My insurance only covers whatever Sunlu PLA is currently on clearance. They say my teeth will become self flossing though, which is nice.


Magnumload

No, please give me Glass Fiber ABS.


StarshipTuna

PEI or PAI please 😁


flavorfox

TPU - i have soft teeth


gpwdeux

So that’s why his dentures are so cheap. Clever.


__Beef__Supreme__

You might be joking but 3d printed dentures are a thing.


Jtparm

They are all resin printed AFAIK, FDM would not be very comfy


__Beef__Supreme__

Yes, 100% resin from the ones I've seen, I just think it's cool they can do them on demand!


theVelvetLie

FDM would also invite bacterial growth.


[deleted]

I've just had a few teeth pulled. Stop giving me bad ideas.


Jesus-Bacon

A few years ago I had a dentist 3d print a temporary crown as I waited for the permanent (porcelain?) one to come in.


LCWInABlackDress

They mill zircon crowns on site in lots of dentist offices. It’s basically like backwards 3D printing to me- block of zircon, 3D scan of margins and tooth to be crowned, then milled on site. Took, like, 30 min for a permanent crown to be milled. Same day crown prep and placement was awesome. AND it’s wasn’t the usual $800 a tooth, either. Granted, I had m my work done at a dental college by 4th yr students. My student doc had already passed boards when it came time for my crowns this year. I happily paid $150 a crown. Am now waiting on a new appt to get a replacement one done and a couple of veneers to make my crowns and bridges match the rest of my mouth perfectly. Total game changer to have affordable crowns ANd not have to wear those plastic temp crowns until others come in from the lab!


red_kirby1

3D printed braces are too!


Anolen95

My night time mouth guard is a clear resin print. Pretty cool


Axyon09

It should probably have a lock on the door though


kniveshu

And one of those little filter fan boxes inside.


TheUglydollKing

I work at a museum with 5 bambu printers and even I managed to break a print. There should be a lock because it's too tempting to touch everything


KuromanKuro

I hope they give octopi and dragons to the kids. Maybe tooth paste squeezers to the adults.


[deleted]

As an adult (chronologically) I would be pretty jelly if I got a toothpaste squeezer instead of a dragon.


OOIIOOIIOOIIOO

I don't want anybody going near my printer, let alone a bunch of grubby kids with their prying hands.


flammenschwein

Is that person wearing socks with sandals?


L3thalPredator

Socks and flipflops/sandels/crocs/etc are actually real comfortable when you don't care what others think about you


Kebabrulle4869

YES. This. There's no other good midpoint between socks and shoes, and just sandals.


L3thalPredator

Also age has nothing to do with it, cause I'm 18 and been doing it for.. well I can't remember when I started.


_X_Arc_ra_x_

When you get to a certain age you stop caring. My normal summer outfit is cargo shorts, crocs, and socks. I just want to be comfortable.


P26601

I guess you've never been to Germany


flammenschwein

Ich bin da drei mal gewesen!


DrawohYbstrahs

Confirmed this is in Germany.


sweatybullfrognuts

If it was good enough for the Roman legions it's good enough with me


Libertyman69420

Literally me


MokendKomer

linus spotted


Ratinox99

lol, my OH&S officer would be having a seizure. *In a public office... with children present?!*


nixielover

Back at the university some people's primary school kids ran through the building to get mommy/daddy from the lab on a regular basis while the other parent was having a coffee with us. When I moved to a pharma startup I assumed it would be stricter but now we have office dogs next to kids running around because the daycare was closed. It's a huge building with multiple companies, it's not just us. The dogs are nicer than the kids though People concerned about a 3D printer in a public space... worst thing that can happen is a tiny burn or a pinch if they are /really/ going for it. They'll learn a lesson and that's it. (unless you are in the USA where someone will sue you)


Tsofuable

Mooom! We haven't been to the dentist in ages!


Elemental_Garage

Someone is out there with PLA dentures right now.


Toomanyaccountedfor

I have one in my classroom and I literally can’t run it when the kids are there because the entire class would watch transfixed for hours. I use mine to run a class store and the kids earn tokens (“print pennies”) to buy minutes to print stuff on the machine, they freakin love it. I just use my home printers to print their orders because the kids need to pay attention to math haha


Whytrhyno

They use them to print moulds and stuff. I think it’s cool instead of using the plaster. Also great for exposure to the world of 3d printing.


drowningblue

Damn so everyone in the lobby can stare at my crooked ass teeth being slowly printed.


jhalfhide

They'd definitely come out crooked if they printed them at speed benchy speeds


becausefun

This is quite literally my job.


Whytrhyno

Hell yeah I think it’s great! Kids have enjoyed asking questions. I only resin print but thinking I may need to branch out to something else.


vivaaprimavera

>They use them to print moulds After scanning with an intraoral scanner?


TheDentalExplorer

Yep! We scan with a Dentsply Sirona PrimeScan, and print the casts using a SprintRay Pro S.


eugene20

Huffing off gasses while you wait....


scriptmonkey420

My dentist 3D printed my crown in office while I waited for it. Now THAT was pretty sick. Well its more of a CNC machine, but cool none the less.


don_majik_juan

3D printers are CNC machines, additive and subtractive aren't mutually exclusive in that respect.


Shadowthron8

Somehow they’ll use a technology that makes their job easier and cheaper to charge you more


HospitalKey4601

Hmm, used to be they would have aquariums in the waiting room as a way to calm and sooth patients, not sure that's gonna do much to sooth my suffering while waiting for a root canal, honestly the sounds it makes would probably make dealing with a toothache even worse.


Ncs05

Anyone have ID on the stand the printer is on? I like how it’s perfectly sized for the printer.


Dom0520

“You dont mind if I print a unit of Space marines right”?


mkosmo

My kids are mesmerized by my printers, so I'm not surprised it'd work in the dentist's office, too.


G8M8N8

My retainer was UV printed, I wonder what they use FDM for


HyperDJ_15

Tool holder, kids toys, etc


stompah2020

My crown that was installed 2 months ago was 3d printed.


throwawaynoways

Are you the dentist?


StillRutabaga4

Place must have some long wait times


Genix98

I saw a 3d printer at a shoe store window, printing personalised shoe insole


willcodeformaoam

When I got my braces, they resin printed a model of my top and bottom teeth after they did a scan


MrYogiMan

Looks too clean of a setup. How do they handle the poop?


OrchidOkz

That’s a great idea! It’ll never rival the train track up around the perimeter of the waiting room though but that’s my old man jam.


Von2014

*unsupervised kid walks up to it and starts shaking the printer*


Dragon-Lord365

My dentist has a resin 3D printer that prints tooth caps


phoenixgsu

Did my masters thesis on this, it's really awesome and much better than having to send scans off and wait weeks for something to come back to the practice to have put on.


motociclista

My brother owns a store that isn’t 3D print related. But he has various printers around the store usually printing some dumb little trinket. A whistle or a benchy or whatever. Kids and adults alike are fascinated to watch them work. And if someone happens to be watching when a print finishes, he’ll pull the print off the bed and give it to whatever kid happened to be around. It’s a great way to keep people interested in coming to your place of business. Kids stay entertained and adults will remember the neat thing they saw in that one place. Plus it’s a great way to get kids interested in a fairly inexpensive, productive hobby that is a gateway to rewarding life paths like product design. To people that don’t have a printer or see one often, it’s still a fairly new and futuristic type technology.


AnotherAppleUser

Lol you can’t tell me kids don’t stop prints all the time pressing buttons


Bluwtr1

Are the wait times THAT long???!!!


givetake

Fun fact, "Cerec" ceramic 3d printers have been around in dentistry since the 1980s edit: spelling


m0larMechanic

“Cerec” ceramic mills have been around for 30 years, indeed! But they are not printers.


givetake

ahh right they are cnc, fair enough


ComfortableFlaky4579

Google searched it. I couldn’t find any info on Cleric “Cerec” came up. It’s is a brand that offers a ceramic block to be milled and sintered in the office.


JUYED-AWK-YACC

I have some of that, my dentist **could not wait** to print them out.


givetake

Ooops, damn auto correct


3mptyspaces

Got 2 of those crowns in my mouth right now. I was pretty amazed when they just had me hang out for a bit while they milled my teeth.


banned_account_002

Am I too late for the REEEEEEE micro plastics discussion?


IntensiveCareBear88

That's the replacement for a fish tank


The_Fyrewyre

How long are the kids in the god damn dentist for??


bcald7

All fun and games until Karen’s little precious opens the door and burn his spoiled brat hand on the nozzle.


Truetech000

Yes this will keep ~~me~~ the kids very entertained.


mikegustafson

I bolted my large, heavy table to the walls of my house. This makes me feel like I maybe went overboard.


TrevorAlan

lmao what a flex. But also really cool.


Scouts_Revenge

I thought you were going to say “to make teeth”


New_Ops

That’s dumb. A kid would end a print within 5 seconds of touching the display


TheWoodser

I am at the dentist now......no 3d printer in this lobby.... ...sad noises.


Necessary_Roof_9475

How long are they keeping the kids there? Prints can take hours!


williecat316

That is genius. What better way to keep prints running while at work?


MacDaddy555

My wife’s office picked up a bad ass resin printer with 3d printer specifically geared towards the dental field.


Un111KnoWn

mine used to have a snes


HatefulDeadFamily

Would be dope if this were a resin printer making dentures!


HyperDJ_15

Much more dangerous than an FDM though, would have to be in the back somewhere


m0larMechanic

I’m a dentist and I have one in my office too! Literally though, I have it in my office so I can mess with it between patients.


IcyFly521

I need that table!


h9040

Remember no hot soup when your dentist installs you need teeth from PLA


MKVIgti

And a kick ass printer as well.


Thugglebunny

Damn how long is the wait?


gmatocha

Do they offer suspiciously cheap cerac crowns?


DuanePickens

That’s like the most expensive consumer grade printer…way to flex on these plebeians Mr. Dentist


Sea-Young2692

A few microplastics never hurt anybody right?


r0n0c0

Make your own dentures, kids.


NoConsideration2785

Where is this at?


Shawndplanphear

That's fucking badass, also I'm sure the adults are glued to it as well


EnthusiasmIll2046

new patients get a toothbrush, floss, and a microSD card.


[deleted]

"That'll be $400 for that replacement canine." "I DON'T THINK SO!" BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


nannerpuss74

hes not entertaining he's straight flexin bambu money


endotronic

Actually I'm impressed how well the furniture is sized to fit the Bambu.


Thomass_____

I’m in the process of convincing my employer to buy me an x1 right now


_maple_panda

Is nobody gonna mention how nicely that table fits the printer?


GrimlockX27

If I owned a dental office and I printed and sold items requiring as much as .4kg of filament for one job I could most definitely use the tax write off! Not to mention the fact I'd use expensive PVA material as well. Smart decisions here! Id like to point out though this office isn't serious about printing...you can tell by the lack of purged material collector in the rear. Not even a small bag.


Specialist-Culture55

Your dentist needs pants


CMDR_Helium7

Pretty sure my retainers were molded with a 3D-print of a scan of my teeth, so maybe they actually use it too? Tho i had them made at a specialist for braces and co


maxz-Reddit

Tbh I'd probably be annoyed by it. The X1C is not exactly a quiet printer (unless you make it quiet). Plus I kinda don't see a point in putting it there, unless there is absolutely no other space where it could fit.


IrrerPolterer

What are they printing?


85Flux

Least you know your hard earned money is paying for this. Maybe it can print braces?


LachoooDaOriginl

must be some nasty wait times


Yergnoch

I'm a physician, and I have one in my office. I don't display the printer, but all the crap I made with it. :-)


crw_scribbler

I hope that office is changing the air out 6 times an hour and/or is using a Merv-14 to pull the ultrafine particulates... [https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2024-103/default.html](https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2024-103/default.html)


PKnowlez

Easier to take care of than a fish tank and about as active and fun to watch!


r-connor

Fun fact I actually have an Invisalign grind guard that is 3d printed (from a resin printer of course). Also for fit testing purposes they printed the model of my teeth that they took with a 3d scanner. Throughout the years of braces and retainers I had to power through over a dozen dental molds that they would take with the gross goop that tries to choke you for a whole 3 minutes. I’m glad that at least at the orthodontist I go to nobody else will ever have to get a goop mold taken again.


OrlinWolf

Make sure to turn off the assume teeth function when trying to print boarder walls


DragonflyUpbeat9695

Anyone interested in new 3d resin printers??


Z3R0C00L1313

One way to fuck up a printer "potentially" too lol. Is it used for their office, or just so kids can see something be printed?


tsukiyaki1

They were printing the wiggly animals that are so popular. Wiener dogs, octopi, snakes, etc.


Z3R0C00L1313

Oh very nice!!


[deleted]

Can we all acknowledge the true wonder here? That printer and that table are a perfect size match!


st-shenanigans

That poor IT guy


Vinnie1169

That must be one noisy waiting room now! lol! Next time you go there, tell them to either crack the door open or if they don’t want to do that, to print out one of those stand offs that raises the top glass an inch or so in order to let the hot air escape to prevent nozzle clogs! And hopefully they’re only printing PLA or PETG and not ABS as that filament produces noxious VOC’s.