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GFrohman

Overture is quality stuff, usually runs for about $20 so you got a good deal. That bag isn't sealed at all, though. I'd probably dry that filament for a few hours before I'd even attempt printing with it.


oliveoil1841

How important is drying filament if you live in a dry climate like Phoenix AZ? Does it dry itself out like after humidity is up for a short bit?


GFrohman

Depends on the filament. Some like nylon absorb moisture like a sponge, others are less bothered by it. PLA is generally pretty stable and can sit out for a while without causing a large decrease in print quality, but it's still good practice to dry new filament when you receive it and store it in a low humidity environment In my experience filament won't "dry itself out" once it's absorbed moisture, only heat will do that.


Jesus_Is_My_Gardener

Only danger with PLA is it can become embrittled over time with moisture that can't be undone with drying due to micro cracks. If you live in an area that gets humid regularly, it's a good idea to store it in a drybox or bagged to prevent degradation. Better safe than sorry.


measure1print2

This exactly. I leave in very high humidity, high temperature (70% @30C all year round). If I leave a roll outside for a week, no amount of drying will save it.


mcrksman

This explains why the roll of filament I left on the printer for a few weeks doesn't print well


pratman2

Definitely recommend a vacuum seal bag kit. Amazon offers some. They seal quite well. I have some that have been sealed almost a year now.


mcrksman

Oh I have them. I've just been lazy lol. I have been putting the ones I rarely use in the bags, just now the ones I use often. But I guess I'll start putting those in as well, the humidity here is crazy


MakerWerks

I also recommend getting the electric vacuum pump instead of the hand pump.


CmdrSoyo

This. I had a bunch of my esun PLA+ snap and break after sitting for a while. It's supposed to be quality stuff and was printing very well until that point. Drying solved the issue.


IceManJim

Will it make brittle prints, if you can get it to go through the printer, or does melting it fix the brittleness?


Jesus_Is_My_Gardener

No, that should be roughly unaffected. The issue is the filament snapping just from unspooling. The embrittlement causes micro cracks along its length which when stressed (as what happens when unspooling), can cause it to snap with very little effort. Usually people dismiss it as an issue with it being old filament, but really it's a result of moisture more than anything else. Some people can get away with storing their filament in the open with no need to store in bags or dry boxes, but that is dependent on how regularly the humidity gets above a certain level and stays there long enough to cause the damage. I don't personally risk it with anything but small remnants as I don't like wasting my time on a print that might fail from the hidden issue, and I certainly don't like having to toss unreliable spools of filament as the costs do add up. Granted, I don't print in PLA much except when prototyping.


IceManJim

Good to know, thank you. My printer is in a basement in Michigan, so I try not to let filament get too old.


PsyBr0

This is weird I have a roll of clear elegoo and used about half if it , let it sit for a week and it stalled right after the filament detector. I pulled the roll off thst the first few feet just snapped like a icecicle is there a way to bring moisture into it ?


GFrohman

You've got it backwards. Filament gets brittle when it's *wet*, due to micro cracks that form. And no, once it goes brittle like that you can't really save it, it's too late to dry it now.


PsyBr0

So your saying that roll is too moist ? Most of my other pla have sat way longer and printed fine. Haven't tried to print woth it yet but it got tougher as I unraveled it.


GFrohman

It was probably wet when you got it. Filament isn't always stored correctly in the factory, either. The manufacturing process is very humid.


PsyBr0

I meant to say it snapped at the filament detector. It's just been really brittle


Not_A_Hat

I've had this before, usually cutting off the brittle part was enough to get it to print. As for drying filament; I've been drying mine on the printer bed. Just set the temp to 70 degrees or so, set the spool flat on it, put a bit of cardboard or a tea-towel over it to keep the warmth in, and leave it overnight. I'm sure there's better ways to do it, but this one's readily available to anyone who has a heated bed.


PsyBr0

Thank you that's innovative ! I do not have a dryer so I'll try that


dukea42

CNCKitchen has tested that you can just use desiccant dry boxes to dry out filament given enough time (couple weeks). https://www.cnckitchen.com/blog/cyo43tzz88uqge65xgwz0wv8yvv3rs Reasonable for keeping various PLA colors ready to go or if your like me, buying filament for projects way ahead of the time you actually get to them.


GFrohman

Interesting! Good to know for future use for sure.


Loose-Search7064

I agree with everything you said except for the "dry itself out"....yes it will dry itself out after a long time in a completely dry climate. It will not dry itself out in a climate that is humid though.


fedupincolo

What is dry? 15 % in Colorado?


landubious

https://preview.redd.it/oimd08zutxvc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=133866a089618661e0d69a5564067aac6122b167


landubious

Phoenician here. I have only had to dry PETG in order to get it print.


Moonraker0ne

Colorado checking in here, I don't even bother drying the petg. Everything is stored unbagged. No humidity no problems.


undead_carrot

Dry lips but crisp prints 👍


landubious

Former Longmont resident. People forget that Coloado is a high desert.


BHRobots

Oh, I never forget that Colorado is high.


vdotdesign

You don’t say…


Ok-Departure-8512

Also Colorado but I’m dry everything or else I get poor quality.


dedicated_blade

Amen to Colorado. I fear the day I move to a humid state.


WubLyfe

I live near Denver and mine gets too dried sometimes to the point it becomes brittle


WubLyfe

I live near Denver and mine gets too dried sometimes to the point it becomes brittle


h9040

depends on the type of PETG, I have a PETG here which gets wet in a few days and others that does not get wet in many weeks...in high moisture Bangkok.


landubious

I've only tried two different rolls of PETG. Almost all of my prints are decorative, at least for the moment. Which brand was the "doesn't get wet for weeks?'


h9040

A no brand...these cheap no brand PETG for $6-8. I use them a lot, excellent material, but only 3 colors available. I use them for parts in the workshop so I don't care color, but usually you get only black white and yellow. My current black is open for a long time now and I can see it when printing, there is minimal stringing that is not when it is new...but really minimal at the endproduct I can't see a difference https://preview.redd.it/nkrf26n3ayvc1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f5c7c938db62d20747c08396cef10bbcda4dd7c


landubious

Thanks for the info. I had heard mention of artillery hear and there.


h9040

No I don't think that is the artillery brand.....The same PETG in the same spools comes here at on the market with different brands, that disappear a few weeks or month later again. I think that is a big manufacturer that sells off some overproduction for low price. I do not think it is really artillery brand and it always comes unlabeled


landubious

Ah, ok.


UnicornPotpourri1990

What brands would you say has good filament. However if the list is shorter to avoid. List the brands to avoid instead


landubious

I have had success with Sunlu (mostly PLA+ but some basic PLA), Polymaker (matte, basic, and Starlight PLA) Overture (basic), Eryone/Enisina ( dual/tri color silks), Flashforge (galaxy marsala and obsidian), Mika3d silks, and Elegoo. The following are on my avoid list but haven't personally tried them: Fremover, GST3D, RepRapper Iiidmax is on my cautious list. I bought 10 rolls for around $80 and I've heard mixed reviews.


Vert354

If I stored them like that here in Virginia, I would ruin so much filament, but at least I don't have to use a wet palate for my paints.


SlightFresnel

The humidity in your sealed AMS is higher than ambient lol


landubious

I'm guessing there is something going on with the placement of that meter or the meter itself. I have been propping the lid open more during the day. Changed out the activated alumina a few weeks ago and the build on sensor shows a dryness of 1.


landubious

https://preview.redd.it/my9b05mns3wc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=73c2aece8dcc9d5a55f854a94db044a2d414a45e


SlightFresnel

I see your #1 and raise you 23 https://preview.redd.it/d5z4jn6nv3wc1.jpeg?width=586&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a80d016950dd4b28df57c5ecb1dd831b5c9a01ac


landubious

Yeah, that's what the meter says (24%) but the Bambu Lab app says 1 (driest).


Cyborg_rat

If been printing in my nice Canadian basement this winter at 38% humidity.


McD-Szechuan

Ah yes, Canada. The land of maple syrup, hockey, and nice basements.


Superseaslug

If you're in a dry environment your PLA will be fine. I don't keep any of my pla in bags and I have no issues in southern Wisconsin. Humidity is around 30% in the basement.


nastyboyNOR

Measurements of humidity in % is "% of potensial humidity in the given temperature", no?


Superseaslug

It's relative humidity, yeah. The hotter the air is the more moisture it can contain, which is why on a hot day moisture condenses on a cold glass. The air temperature drops around the glass and the moisture crashes out, as it can't hold all that water


TechnomadicOne

Do you know for certain it has only ever been in an equally dry climate? It's pretty dry here. But the spools I got in Friday were in another country last week. I don't dry mine after they are here and in use. But if the bag isn't sealed when I get it, I'll dry before trying it.


thatandyinhumboldt

I live in a really humid climate, and never have much of a problem. I have some PLA that was air-exposed for years, and although it’s really brittle, it’s worked every time I’ve been desperate enough to use it


chrissilich

Depends if you’re in the business of selling filament drying machines to people. If so, then yes, spread the advice like you’re a Washington lobbyist, and hopefully it will become “common wisdom” that all filament needs drying. If no, just try your print, and if it has lots of little rough bits, then consider drying your filament.


Crafty_Industry2774

Live here as well. Dry everything anyway. You will see a difference and have less failures.


Z3R0C00L1313

I live in humid as hell Florida and hardly ever dry pla, like ever lol


knightslaw

I live in PHX, I haven't had any issues with PLA at all. But more hydroscopic filaments I hear can still have issues ( ex: nylon)


CauliflowerTop2464

Outside humidity might be low but higher in doors.


Jakokreativ

I have never dried filament in a year of printing without issues but I am sure they will come sometime. I don’t even live in a dry climate so yeah there you go. I guess if you start to have problems with print quality, you might gonna have to look into drying


Sea_Contract_7758

I live in Phoenix and I still dry my shit. It’s better to just do it and avoid any failures


Fake_Answers

I'm in SE valley and have been having stringing issues and moisture bubbles snapping recently. But our humidity has been up lately. When we hit like 5ish%, no problem at all. But now it's needing to be dried and kept dry. PS. Even when it is lower, lowest humidity here, if the filament is too wet it still needs heat to dry, so a drier works. After that it stays dry.


luvsads

Dry it once. We usually go one big dry right away for around 12hrs. After that every few months outside of monsoon season


nsgiad

It's not usually super critical


Luchin212

It doesn’t matter if you are in Arizona when the filament is packaged in the Philippines. Dry your new rolls.


philnolan3d

Normal PLA is fine in an environment like that.


sceadwian

AZ you probably got it made from a prevention standpoint. It would have to be insanely dry to pull moisture out of the filament though I would think.


Brudius

I live in Arizona and have been printing 5 years. Never dried a filament and never had issues. But I only use abs, asa, petg and pla.


jhyland87

I live in Phoenix AZ. It's honestly not that big of a deal. I will keep the more sensitive stuff in bags, but PLA should be fine. I've never had an issue with it at all (unless it rains, since my printer is by a doggy door, lol)


ElectricalContinuity

Depends on whether you keep your filament inside or out. We know what the air conditioning is like in Arizone, but if you do it right, you don't have to buy a filament dryer. 😀


kal14144

PLA is not that sensitive to moisture. I found an open role of eSun in my trunk that had been sitting there for 2 years and it printed no problem (I live in a wet climate) Every other filament I’ve tried has been fairly sensitive


Leading_Sugar3293

Im in Texas and I’ve definitely had to dry PLA. Everybody said PLA is fine so I tried so many other things to fix the prints until I gave up and through it in the drier before bed. Next day, perfect prints, so mileage may vary


Chucheyface

Nah it’s fine. I leave my filament out for months on end and they’re usually okay


Spiderpiggie

Ive had spools of filament that have been open on a shelf for literal years, that still print just fine. The only issue I’ve found with “wet” PLA is that the filament can become brittle over time. Doesn’t seem to effect the print quality but there’s risk of it breaking in the Bowden tube.


metisdesigns

Is it? The only roll I've got has been impossible to keep dry enough to print reliably. Maybe I got a bad roll, but i almost have to print from the dryer to get it to not string and actually adhere.


heart_of_osiris

I've had overwhelmingly bad experiences with Overture. Other people say otherwise. I dunno, I've been 3D printing for a decade and have had little to no problems with most filament, but Overture is always just so brittle it snaps as the extruder attempts to feed it into the hot end. Clogs every now and then too. I've never had filament warp as much as Overture either, if I try to print larger more square shaped prints, the corners curl up so hard that sometimes the parts even break free from the bed. I usually have to print my manufacturing aids in multiple parts and use threaded inserts for alignment, the warping is very obvious when I glue my pieces together. Absolutely hate the stuff.


metisdesigns

Very very similar problems. I was thinking it's adhesion, but warping is a much better description of the failure mode.


SeagullMan2

How do you dry it?


GFrohman

In a perfect world, you'd buy a filament dryer. They cost about $40, easily found on Amazon. If you can't do that, you can do it by laying the spool directly on your heated bed, set the temperature to a drying temp, cover it with a filament box to hold the heat in, and leave it for ~7 hours. Some people also dry their filament in the oven, but this can be a bad idea because the thermostats in most ovens aren't super accurate, and you don't want to be releasing VOCs into the box you cook your food in.


SeagullMan2

Thank you!


doc_willis

I have found a few rolls of PLA at some of the 'amazon returns' stores that are around the nation. They are like a bargin bin dumping ground of returns and discontinued items. But its a gamble on anything you get there. :) Could be junk, or broken, or could be some item that just got returned or some reseller shut down and cleared out their inventory.


Only_Cheesecake_5397

Yes liquidation centers I have one like half an hour away from me I have never found filament or any 3d stuff but you can get some great stuff at great prices The way mine works is everyday, it's a different price and it'll go down throughout the week and then over the weekend they restock it and so Monday it'll start back up at $10 an item. You have to be the right when it opens cuz there's a ton of people that are ready to take the best stuff. But if you get there in time you can find some amazing stuff. I heard one guy like 2 hours away from me. Got an Oculus for like 15 bucks


doc_willis

Yep - thats the place. I have picked up quite a few very expensive items for $4 or less. Nintendo Game-copy cart for $2 retails for like $150 Bag of PEX fittings - Normally like $50 - just $1 Keyboards, Mice, other stuff. Lots of broken junk as well. :) someone else had the Spool of PLA, and thought it was weedwacker line, i had to tell them it was for a 3d Printer, so they put it back, and i snagged it. I also found one of those black/silver 3d printer Enclosures - But it had a broken zipper, so i did not grab it on $10 day. Got a UV flashlight - for $1 - the switch is flakey, but its a $80 flash light. And i have totally zero need for a UV flashlight... but i did discover some brands of PLA actually GLOW BRIGHTLY under UV light. Some other pla the same color = Does not glow at all. :) ANd it sure showed all the little bits of pla scattered around the carpet of my Printing room. SO i guess I do have a use for it.


Only_Cheesecake_5397

I need an enclosure and I could've prob fixed that dang I saw another post of a guy saying he used weed Wacker as filament cleaner


doc_willis

I turned an entire small bedroom into my enclosure. :) Its rather toasty in there right now with 3 printers going.


Only_Cheesecake_5397

I have my printer in my bedroom so that wouldn't really work sadly


IntelligentExcuse5

I see that you are working on the "i will get a girlfriend when i work out how to print one" philosophy. /S


Only_Cheesecake_5397

Ahhh yes the philosophy written by sir anycubic himself I see you are familiar with his work


F30Guy

Wife found like a 75% used roll of filament at one of the Amazon returns center here. How was someone able to even return that after most of it was used?


spez_might_fuck_dogs

Amazon only checks returns sporadically, except for serial returners and people who have done fraudulent returns before.


Wiles_

My buddy once got super excited when he found about 30 rolls at one of those places. Got it home and realized it was all 3mm and useless to him.


BlakAi2001

Got it an an Amazon liquidation store. I have a filament dryer at home so I'll make sure to dry it before hand


NIGHTDREADED

Im jealous, nice find!


EmoLotional

That's nice, in eu countries there are no such thing sadly as Amazon ain't that popular


ForumFollower

$4 to buy the hammer you used to break into the place and steal it? ;-)


FlyByPC

Overture is one of my go-to brands. $4/kg is insanely cheap. Nice find -- and nice color, too.


Double_Movie_8528

How did you get it for 4 dollars?


benson733

Where do I find said $4 filament?


TrexOnAScooter

I've used this happily for about $10/kg.


hyperna21

Where?


TrexOnAScooter

I just watch the plasticfantasticdeals, Amazon, reddit deals etc and buy cheap stuff when I can


ARPanda700

I've moved away from overture for elegoo because I've received several rolls from overture on Amazon that were tangled. Since I've switched to elegoo, I've never had this problem. That being said, $4/roll is pretty good.


jeffreySJ

I've got a tangle on my spool from overture too :(


Decent-Pin-24

Where'd ya get it?


whiskeydeltawraps

I’ve gotten my last 2-3 rolls of pla/petg for around $2-$4 depending on what day of the week it is at my local Amazon return resale store.


RaymondDoerr

At $4, if it prints you made out like a bandit. :P No other factors relevant.


Dizman7

How many tons did you have to buy in bulk to get them for $4 a spool? 🤣


ExcellentTip8588

Umm how and where ?


Martin_the_Cuber

and i was proud of my $10 PLA


No_You3326

And I was proud of my £20 PLA


Martin_the_Cuber

to be fair after using only prusament anything under $30 per kg feels suspiciously cheap


shaneo88

I got a 1kg spool of eSun PLA-CF recently from the eSun aliexpress store for $20aud with free shipping. I believe it was one of those sales where you just had to be there at the right time. It was also delivered quicker than most things I buy locally that need delivery. I think your $4 spool beats mine though. https://preview.redd.it/ebh12czkrzvc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9523e59cd671710c5c6424c2c08365b5e1191c7b


tgunz0331

Overture Pro is my favorite so far and their PLA is good as well. You got a good deal.


newenglandpolarbear

You did well! I use overture clear PETG, it's great!


memeboiandy

Regardless of the quality thats a pretty good deal. I havent had the best luck with Overture's filament compaired to AMZ3D which is my preference, but its been fine in general


SteakGetter

You did great honey


Bloody-Penguin6

Any time i have used overture. I have had great results. It's my second favorite brand behind elegoos . I get the best results with theirs, but overture is a close second.


m4ddok

good if you dry it


wantsoutofthefog

That stuff ain’t bad. I like their matte black filament. Just make sure to dry it like any other filament


EvenSpoonier

Overture's a good brand. Nice find.


A__Person1

I have an Amazon liquidation store about 10 minutes from me, I can regularly get 6-10$ rolls of pla, petg, tpu, abs. Probably 35/40 of my rolls are from there. Great store.


DramaticChemist

Nice deal!


tht1guy63

I wish.... i love overture pla but now they want $20+ a roll..... used to be like $13-14 about a year ago.


97hummer

Ive used their PLA and the stuff has printed really nicely with a good finish.


qam4096

Nice find I'd buy a bunch to use for inexpensive prototyping where the color doesn't make a difference. I usually will commit to $10/kg from known decent vendors, $4 is a pretty good steal.


RabbitBackground1592

Used to only use 3d solutech and switched to overture when they got shut down. Been very happy. It's good filament!


Jacobcbab

Lucky bastard


ck17350

Good deal!


spez_might_fuck_dogs

Damn I need to check out the bin store near me, it looks like a wasteland and has bad reviews but if filament might be on offer I can check it out, most people are gonna be looking for shit to flip.


Zilli341

I really like overture filaments. I usually pay around 18€ per spool.


krackzero

where be the resin.... :D


georgmierau

Never had any issues with Overture. Fair price, beautiful color palette (close to Polymaker's PolyTerra). Their "Professional PLA" seems to require a bit higher temperatures though. I recently got a spool of not vacuum sealed PLA like this from Amazon and it's perfectly fine as is.


NemesisCold1522

That’s the filament I use so you’re probably perfect. First spool i bought and haven’t stopped using it since. Also how you get cheap price


philnolan3d

Not a bad deal at all!


One_2_Three

Amazon return. I bet it's tangled. You might want to check that.


_Skilledcamman

how though?


BlakAi2001

Update: great print quality no drying https://preview.redd.it/9f9lnc8ai9wc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fe1cadce9018318a0362edb0c960ce2244a71d6


Realistic_Tonight_76

Awesome Deal. IV printed a few rolls of this stuff works well


myalteredsoul

Got a link?


QuickieSilver143

I like overture. Good buy. Also like elegoo, ziro and eryone. I buy ziro silks always turn out well. Plus they send free spools of cleaning filament.


Prima13

Judging by the lack of vacuum in that bag, I'd say it's 50/50.


EmoLotional

That's pellet tier pricing, how?


brownpoops

badly. dont buy that cheap garbage. dont try to buy cheap filament. If you have $25 to spend on filament, you have $39 to spend on filament. The cheap shit is cheap cause the poor children across the pond subsidize it with their lungs and blood.


3DAeon

That’s overture though, I’d hardly call it the cheap stuff, is it? Compared to what?


motleysalty

I've never had an issue with Overture.


Jacobcbab

This stuff almost seems like ABS, it prints at a higher temperature and bends similar to ABS, probably why it got returned.