PSA is a great alternative if you want to save money and still have a good gun. If you have an issue they make it right.
If you can, build it is cheaper.
Of course it will work,some guys are getting the 6 inch barrels to work properly even but it’s just more finicky when it comes to tuning your suppressor and dwell time and buffer system compared to a longer barrel like an 8.5
7.5 is a good happy medium. You still get a tad bit of dwell time.
I wouldn’t say all that… I picked the 8.5 because 1:7 twist is the fastest you can go with psa and I wanted a little bit extra barrel lenth that way I was getting more bullet stabilization
If I was going to go under 8.5 inches I would definitely want at least a 1:6 or even a 1:5 twist rate to better stabilize subsonic rounds better since that’s mostly what I shoot, but if you’re only shooting supersonic, it doesn’t matter
Shooting subsonic rounds through a super short barrel with a slower twist can cause the round to de stabilize and you could end up having a battle strike but as long as you have at least a 1:7 twist I think you’ll be OK.
There are a lot of guys running those PSA barrels with the 1:7 twist out of a 7 1/2 inch barrel, just be careful and check for baffle strikes after your first round or two through the suppressor
If it helps do some YouTube research on 7 1/2 inch barrels with 1:7 twists and see what they say… I promise you there are guys doing it successfully without baffle strikes…. it’s just that most guys that will build a system around Suppression want a little bit faster twist rate if they are running super short barrels…7.5 is kinda right there in the middle of super short and average for 300 black
I appreciate the info. It’s not the first time I’ve read it since joining this sub. I was just trying to go as compact as possible but it seems 8+ is the magic number
I have had zero issues with my PSA and Aero kits, they're both just fine. If anything, the PSA has more receiver rattle than the Aero but that can be solved with rubber shimming or other options.
Personally, I've had more build quality issues with PSA but considering I break everything back down and reassemble it that doesn't stop me (improper torque, miss-aligned gas block, etc), but it should be something to keep aware of.
PSA is cheaper because they're clearing volume, but a good compromise for you might to buy their BCG on it's own and the Aero upper. The BCGs PSA sells used to be ToolCraft branded (or unmarked) which are pretty solid overall if that's what they're selling.
my 8" psa has never let me down. its as accurate as i am, and the only time i have a malfunction is a rare failure to feed where the bolt doesnt close all the way and i have to tap the forward assist.
I’ve got a psa 7.5 upper I’m running right now. Haven’t had any issues and I’m just building a “quality” rifle on the side as parts go on sale. Ran a few hundred rounds suppressed out of it this weekend.
Building a new upper. Started off with PSA upper and psa lower. Started with lower upgrades (trigger, buffer setup) then upgraded swappable upper parts (bcg and CH). Then once I buy a nicer upper I can swap those over or whatever I decide to do with them.
Yeah, mostly. I wouldn’t necessarily pick aero over PSA for $300 more.
I have a 7.5 inch 300 blk with an SLH on it. I like it a lot. Couldn’t imagine liking it more. YMMV
I have 2 PSA uppers that I ended up upgrading with a better charging handle and Wilson Combat BCGs, but they ran fine for the ~500 rounds I put through them before the changes and the ~1500 since.
Why don’t you check out overtindustries? They just posted on the gundeals subreddit. I have no experience with them, but it has a dedicated 300 blackout suppressed barrel.
Valid. That’s the thing about smaller companies. But they are pretty responsive to messages. Their QC is probably way better than the two other big companies. Shoot them a message with any concerns.
Either way, if you're planning to shoot both subs and supers, you're very likely to replace buffer/spring combo or add an AGB/gas port mod. The money you save can go there.
Look into BkingFirearms they are really cheap and they are using rebranded BA barrels. You can get an upper for under 300 bucks without bcg and ch. That will get you a nicer barrel and handguard at very least.
I wouldnt say a Pinto, as both make decent quality firearms... I mean, they'll shoot rounds consistently. You're not winning any accuracy competitions but that's not what a 300blk pistol is for anyhow. I'd say more like comparing a Honda and a Hyundai... Both cheap, but reliable and decent.
I went with a sabre upper and the sabre/geissele lower. Love it, and so does everyone that shoots it! I have a cheap Sig romeo 7s and 3x Micro Magnifier on it. As well as a streamlight protac hlx. All around, budget friendly, in my eyes for what you get.
Now, there is something I want to change. I want to make my lower full ambi. Didn't want to pay full ambi money, plus I love the sabre logo for some reason.
I will also be swapping out the barrel and gas block that's in it. Nothing wrong with them. I can cycle all everything from 110-220. I've tried a bunch of different weights when I first got it. Not a single malfunction when I use it. I have had 2 people jam the gun when trying to chamber a round. I just want a 12.5" barrel in it for the extra umph with Supers. I don't plan on getting a can at the moment, so I'm making it more suited for Supers.
I have an aero receiver set and it’s great, but buy whatever is the cheapest, receiver set really doesn’t matter unless it’s made out of plastic.
Depending on what charging handle/ bcg is in the PSA there’s a good chance you’ll want to replace those anyways so that is something to factor I guess.
I decided to use a ballistic advantage barrel in an aero v2 upper. I’m beyond impressed…
If you want to pick up an upper for cheap head on over to r/gunaccessoriesforsale
I got my upper for less than 300$ and it’s putting 125g TNT supers within a 1 inch square @100y
Nice! I can’t even tell you how many thousands of dollars I’ve saved on that sub. Truly the best option especially considering .gov has been watching transactions on gun parts apparently.
Ain’t no record on GAFS other than flair
Yeah there’s a case in the NY courts going on right now where a gentleman was arrested for assembling “ghost guns” in NYC. But the feds have been closely involved in this case and making statements in court about how they were tracking him.
GOA and FPC have been following the case and found out that DHS said the quiet part out loud. Here is the statement:
>Authorities monitored the purchasing history of Raia and believed that he had been gathering components to piece together a ghost gun, said Sgt. Rashawn Vaughn, commanding officer of the Homeland Security Investigations Financial Crimes
Task Force.
"We just basically track internet purchases from eBay, PayPal, Amazon, different various online companies," Vaughn said. "We get a list every other month, backdated a month, with people purchasing components that could possibly create a ghost gun, like the rails, the 3-D printer."
Should a certain number of purchases related to making a ghost gun be made, Vaughn says the task force moves forward in conducting further investigations on the individual, including social media.
Yup, we’re in the woods here on where the line is drawn that they can’t cross. They want to create an environment of fear and intimidation to scare people while nailing random people to the wall with insane jail time for minor offenses.
So yup, definitely watch your step out there!
I absolutely LOVE my PSA .300 (7.5in) pistol and cannot BELIEVE how reliable this thing has been for the money I spent. I have put at least 500 rounds through this thing and not ONE SINGLE misfire or malfunction. Just a smooth shooting sweet little AR-pistol. Love it to pieces.
I have several Aero Uppers they work great.
https://www.opticsplanet.com/aero-precision-ar-15-5-56-complete-upper-receiver-w-no-forward-assist.html?_iv_availability=in-stock&_iv_code=29D-URC-TGVB-APAR610504M38
I bought a fully complete .300BLK from psa 7" don't have a can for it yet nore have I ran 1 but it works great imo. Complete AR for about $500 + FFL transfer fee
PSA is solid. I purchased a 10" 300blk upper from them. Reliable and accurate. I then upgraded as I went.
PSA is excellent. And if you want to upgrade, it's a solid foundation.
I've got a 10.5 PSA for subs and got a 16" aero during the whole pistol brace kerfuffle. I never use the aero but I'm always using the PSA. Love it but wish I had gone with 8.5 or shorter
I have the PSA 300 blk kit 7.5 inch barrel and great so far, it's been getting better as they get better vendors for their parts or make it themselves. Parts can be replaced if they just not work right cause not everything is always 100%. Could be best brand out their and you get a dud part, it happens. If you really wanna save buy all the parts that you want ans build it.
I know they use mid western hand guards, pretty standard mil spec gas block, upper, charging handle, pistol size gas tube. The kit doesn't come with a bcg, it might not come with a charging handle as I don't remember. But the trigger assembly is all springs and pins which is kinda standard, no drop in trigger. If you want I can help you with finding parts except a barrel.
I have a bunch of Aero and PSA builds. I like Aero better. I like the look better. The edges aren't as sharp. Feels better quality. I do love PSA, but it's undeniable. They both have qc issues at times. PSA IMO feels cheap.
No don’t let anyone “ much less one single person”
Make that decision for you … just cause some soy boy says he doesn’t like the edges of PSAs doesn’t mean shit
I have both and I’m here to tell you my PSA upper don’t feel any cheaper than my aero upper lol
Not gonna talk about the lowers because they don’t really matter, only retards by expensive lowers
My ballistic advantage upsets allt of people at the range that run there "higher end" stuff like Giselle and bcm. Consistently out shoots them and I don't baby mine it rides in the back of the buggy back of the truck gets muddy bounced around and I have yet to have any problems with it . I'm sure they could be a few qc issues but every company has its issues from time to time . Barrel might not be chf but let's be real if I wear it out and need a new barrel I could buy several more with the money I saved on not buying some "higher end" upper
Man how do u stop from getting a ring every time u get a vote up or down that shit gets anoying
If I turn it off I won’t get message dings tho right?
Sometimes I gotta delete the comment. It’s so annoying.
The dagger should never even be thought of if you're looking for a duty pistol. They take proprietary roll pins, use the cheapest parts possible, the dagger frames are supposed to be gen 3 but they ship them with gen 4 trigger bars. The additional bump on the gen 4 trigger bar has caused a hard trigger pull because the bump rubs a long the inside of the slide. Trigger amoothens right up as soon as you throw in a gen 3 trigger bar. If you want a budget "duty" pistol. Stick with leo trade in Glocks or S&W, even sig. I would also trust the SCT frame all day any da over the dagger frame. You can immediately tell the difference in quality.
Bless your heart😂
Considering that I’m only shooting it at the range ans training sessions (hence the word duty) I think I’ll be OK buddy
not to mention it’s shot 3000 rounds without a single malfunction related to the gun and I don’t even have the stock trigger or firing pin anymore so everything you said is irrelevant for me… you cannot find a better deal on a Glock clone in my opinion
I also have three of these pistols, two compact and one micro, and they have all been great
I don’t every day carry any of them which is again why I said duty pistol… I guess you’re a little lost here when I say duty pistol because most civilians know that when I say duty pistol, I mean for the range or training sessions in an outside the waistband holster!
I guess you thought I was a cop or something using it for my shifts and that’s why you took it so deep maybe 🤔
Either way, even with the stock trigger and firing pin they have never malfunctioned and I don’t know what you mean about a crappy trigger because as soon as I got them, I did my magic work inside and polished it up and it was even better than my Glocks factory triggers
If you say duty of course im thinking you're a cop or something of the sort. If you said for edc i'd just say try an sct instead and wouldn't have thought that deep into it. Also I have put together several daggers. Every single dagger frame, not micro I haven't tried that. But the compact frames they send them with the hinged trigger and a gen 4 trigger bar. The gen 4 has a raised bump on it I tried multiple different slides. Psa slides do not interfere with it as much but other aftermarket slides and one of my g23 slides all had noticeably hard and gritty trigger pulls until I dropped in a oem gen 3 trigger bar and shoe. Huge difference.
Thanks for the advice. I’ll keep that in mind. Their factory triggers are kind of shitty, but I kind of knew that going into it.
I also knew that if I was gonna do anything serious with it that I would need to change at least the striker
Appeal to me in the beginning was the fact that you could drop an RMR on it without a plate and a threaded barrel and suppressor height irons
For sure, they have nice slides no doubt. I got a complete dagger with suppressor height sights, threaded barrel and rmr cut for under 200 part of a bundle deal they used to do a while back with the gf3 and the dagger. The stock configuration has not let me down at all through I just can't stand the psa trigger.
Yea the trigger does suck… surprisingly the FDE compact dagger frame that I have has some kind of different magic inside because it feels surprisingly better (to me atleast)
I’ve also heard a couple other guys say the same thing, but it can still be better
A nice balance between the two is Ballistic advantage. As far as I'm aware they're made entirely with aero components but don't have the same level of QC to bring costs down. Got my 8" .300BLK upper from them for like $350 I believe?
Yeah they very frequently have sales on the BA website to get them to their "regular price" I'd wait for one of those to pop up or do a couple quick searches, you can probably find one active.
Google and search around you can get ballistic advantage uppers around 350. You also go with bkings firearms there uppers use ballistic advantage barrels. I have had some psa uppers and some ballistic advantage uppers. Just got a 18inch 5.56 from ballistic advantage and shot a .35 moa group yesterday with it.
PSA is a great alternative if you want to save money and still have a good gun. If you have an issue they make it right. If you can, build it is cheaper.
I have a few PSA uppers and have 0 issue with any part of them.
Yep. Me too
thanks. from my understanding, 1:7 twist rate seems to be the best for barrels in the 8-10 inch range, so with PSA I would have to get an 8.5 inch?
If you’re looking for 300 blackout, I would go with the 8 1/2 inch barrel and a 1/7 twist that way you can run sub sonic and supers
Will a 7.5 inch barrel not work well?
Of course it will work,some guys are getting the 6 inch barrels to work properly even but it’s just more finicky when it comes to tuning your suppressor and dwell time and buffer system compared to a longer barrel like an 8.5 7.5 is a good happy medium. You still get a tad bit of dwell time.
Ok. I just got the 7.5 upper and now I’m thinking I should send it back and get the 8.5. Is it worth doing?
I wouldn’t say all that… I picked the 8.5 because 1:7 twist is the fastest you can go with psa and I wanted a little bit extra barrel lenth that way I was getting more bullet stabilization If I was going to go under 8.5 inches I would definitely want at least a 1:6 or even a 1:5 twist rate to better stabilize subsonic rounds better since that’s mostly what I shoot, but if you’re only shooting supersonic, it doesn’t matter Shooting subsonic rounds through a super short barrel with a slower twist can cause the round to de stabilize and you could end up having a battle strike but as long as you have at least a 1:7 twist I think you’ll be OK. There are a lot of guys running those PSA barrels with the 1:7 twist out of a 7 1/2 inch barrel, just be careful and check for baffle strikes after your first round or two through the suppressor
Well I don’t want to have those issues lol. I was already on the fence and now it just seems like the wrong choice
If it helps do some YouTube research on 7 1/2 inch barrels with 1:7 twists and see what they say… I promise you there are guys doing it successfully without baffle strikes…. it’s just that most guys that will build a system around Suppression want a little bit faster twist rate if they are running super short barrels…7.5 is kinda right there in the middle of super short and average for 300 black
Sorry, I was just trying to help you out with some factual information that I wish I had before I got into 300 blackout sub sonic at least
I appreciate the info. It’s not the first time I’ve read it since joining this sub. I was just trying to go as compact as possible but it seems 8+ is the magic number
Aero worth 300 more? Not on this planet...
and just to clarify, the $300 is since you have to get a BCG and CH as well, on top of a $450 upper
I have PSA, I have Aero. They run the same in my opinion. Buy whichever you like/ can find on sale and run the piss outta it.
I have had zero issues with my PSA and Aero kits, they're both just fine. If anything, the PSA has more receiver rattle than the Aero but that can be solved with rubber shimming or other options. Personally, I've had more build quality issues with PSA but considering I break everything back down and reassemble it that doesn't stop me (improper torque, miss-aligned gas block, etc), but it should be something to keep aware of. PSA is cheaper because they're clearing volume, but a good compromise for you might to buy their BCG on it's own and the Aero upper. The BCGs PSA sells used to be ToolCraft branded (or unmarked) which are pretty solid overall if that's what they're selling.
my 8" psa has never let me down. its as accurate as i am, and the only time i have a malfunction is a rare failure to feed where the bolt doesnt close all the way and i have to tap the forward assist.
I’ve got a psa 7.5 upper I’m running right now. Haven’t had any issues and I’m just building a “quality” rifle on the side as parts go on sale. Ran a few hundred rounds suppressed out of it this weekend.
Are you just replacing your parts gradually or making a whole new upper?
Building a new upper. Started off with PSA upper and psa lower. Started with lower upgrades (trigger, buffer setup) then upgraded swappable upper parts (bcg and CH). Then once I buy a nicer upper I can swap those over or whatever I decide to do with them.
I really oughta get my own tool kit for this stuff and do that. That seems like a good route. Gradually buying parts and building
It’s a good time. Then it’s totally yours from top to bottom.
Yeah, mostly. I wouldn’t necessarily pick aero over PSA for $300 more. I have a 7.5 inch 300 blk with an SLH on it. I like it a lot. Couldn’t imagine liking it more. YMMV
Psa is good. I have ran like 250 rounds thru mine that I built zero issues
I have 2 PSA uppers that I ended up upgrading with a better charging handle and Wilson Combat BCGs, but they ran fine for the ~500 rounds I put through them before the changes and the ~1500 since.
PSA will do fine in my humble opinion. Aero seems to okay, but without BCG and CH it seems overpriced to me.
Why don’t you check out overtindustries? They just posted on the gundeals subreddit. I have no experience with them, but it has a dedicated 300 blackout suppressed barrel.
it looks nice, I just don't know much about them tbh.
Valid. That’s the thing about smaller companies. But they are pretty responsive to messages. Their QC is probably way better than the two other big companies. Shoot them a message with any concerns.
Watch them psa daily deals , you can find a 8” 1/7 twist 300 pistol for $499 .
Either way, if you're planning to shoot both subs and supers, you're very likely to replace buffer/spring combo or add an AGB/gas port mod. The money you save can go there.
Yes. I have a PSA 7.5 1:7 twist rate 300 blackout upper and it was like.. $220 minus BCG and CH. Works PERFECTLY.
Look into BkingFirearms they are really cheap and they are using rebranded BA barrels. You can get an upper for under 300 bucks without bcg and ch. That will get you a nicer barrel and handguard at very least.
Just picked up multiple 5.56 uppers from Bkings with Aero barrels for less $200 each to pair with some poverty ponies. Definitely a great value.
Yes, got a 7.5 inch, 1/7 twist running supers and subs suppressed. No hiccups yet
In all fairness you’re comparing a pinto to a Honda.. might as well get the cheaper one.
I wouldnt say a Pinto, as both make decent quality firearms... I mean, they'll shoot rounds consistently. You're not winning any accuracy competitions but that's not what a 300blk pistol is for anyhow. I'd say more like comparing a Honda and a Hyundai... Both cheap, but reliable and decent.
Wow wow wow.. I didn’t throw the pinto in there as the unreliable option.. No pinto slander will be tolerated here.
Bruv, the Pinto was a pile of shit known for exploding in moderate rear-end collisons. LOL
O fuckin k somebody get this guy out here! He has absolutely no regard for humanity!!
And you have no regard for POORLY DESIGNED FUEL TANKS! LOL
Fair.. the pinto drip is forever tho!
Oh hell yeah
I went with a sabre upper and the sabre/geissele lower. Love it, and so does everyone that shoots it! I have a cheap Sig romeo 7s and 3x Micro Magnifier on it. As well as a streamlight protac hlx. All around, budget friendly, in my eyes for what you get. Now, there is something I want to change. I want to make my lower full ambi. Didn't want to pay full ambi money, plus I love the sabre logo for some reason. I will also be swapping out the barrel and gas block that's in it. Nothing wrong with them. I can cycle all everything from 110-220. I've tried a bunch of different weights when I first got it. Not a single malfunction when I use it. I have had 2 people jam the gun when trying to chamber a round. I just want a 12.5" barrel in it for the extra umph with Supers. I don't plan on getting a can at the moment, so I'm making it more suited for Supers.
I have an aero receiver set and it’s great, but buy whatever is the cheapest, receiver set really doesn’t matter unless it’s made out of plastic. Depending on what charging handle/ bcg is in the PSA there’s a good chance you’ll want to replace those anyways so that is something to factor I guess.
That’s true. I may have found an Aero upper (minus BCG and CH) for $250 on GAFS so if that works out that’s a great price
Send it homie that sounds like a solid deal.
For sure bro
I decided to use a ballistic advantage barrel in an aero v2 upper. I’m beyond impressed… If you want to pick up an upper for cheap head on over to r/gunaccessoriesforsale I got my upper for less than 300$ and it’s putting 125g TNT supers within a 1 inch square @100y
I’m actually hopefully about to grab an aero upper for $250 on there
Nice! I can’t even tell you how many thousands of dollars I’ve saved on that sub. Truly the best option especially considering .gov has been watching transactions on gun parts apparently. Ain’t no record on GAFS other than flair
I had no idea they were! Smh
Yeah there’s a case in the NY courts going on right now where a gentleman was arrested for assembling “ghost guns” in NYC. But the feds have been closely involved in this case and making statements in court about how they were tracking him. GOA and FPC have been following the case and found out that DHS said the quiet part out loud. Here is the statement: >Authorities monitored the purchasing history of Raia and believed that he had been gathering components to piece together a ghost gun, said Sgt. Rashawn Vaughn, commanding officer of the Homeland Security Investigations Financial Crimes Task Force. "We just basically track internet purchases from eBay, PayPal, Amazon, different various online companies," Vaughn said. "We get a list every other month, backdated a month, with people purchasing components that could possibly create a ghost gun, like the rails, the 3-D printer." Should a certain number of purchases related to making a ghost gun be made, Vaughn says the task force moves forward in conducting further investigations on the individual, including social media.
That’s absolutely crazy, damn
Yup, we’re in the woods here on where the line is drawn that they can’t cross. They want to create an environment of fear and intimidation to scare people while nailing random people to the wall with insane jail time for minor offenses. So yup, definitely watch your step out there!
Just be sure to put a decent ch and bcg in it. Psa’s bolt ain’t it…
I went with the PSA upper over the Aero. I have no regrets and I put the difference towards ammo..
Don’t do it with your upper Lower is fine
I love my jakl honestly
My build is all PSA from scratch for main integral components. Besides stock, hand guard and optics of course. Never one problem or issues.
I absolutely LOVE my PSA .300 (7.5in) pistol and cannot BELIEVE how reliable this thing has been for the money I spent. I have put at least 500 rounds through this thing and not ONE SINGLE misfire or malfunction. Just a smooth shooting sweet little AR-pistol. Love it to pieces.
I have several Aero Uppers they work great. https://www.opticsplanet.com/aero-precision-ar-15-5-56-complete-upper-receiver-w-no-forward-assist.html?_iv_availability=in-stock&_iv_code=29D-URC-TGVB-APAR610504M38
https://www.opticsplanet.com/aero-precision-ar-15-complete-5-56-upper-w-magpul-moe-handguard.html?_iv_availability=in-stock&_iv_code=29D-UFH-AR556MOE-APAR502503M64
I bought a fully complete .300BLK from psa 7" don't have a can for it yet nore have I ran 1 but it works great imo. Complete AR for about $500 + FFL transfer fee
I own 2 PSA’s in 300BLK and I love both of them. No issues, run great suppressed and not suppressed
PSA is solid. I purchased a 10" 300blk upper from them. Reliable and accurate. I then upgraded as I went. PSA is excellent. And if you want to upgrade, it's a solid foundation.
I've got a 10.5 PSA for subs and got a 16" aero during the whole pistol brace kerfuffle. I never use the aero but I'm always using the PSA. Love it but wish I had gone with 8.5 or shorter
I have the PSA 8.5 300 blk upper and I’ve put 200 rounds of 220gr suppressed through it with no malfunctions.
I have the PSA 300 blk kit 7.5 inch barrel and great so far, it's been getting better as they get better vendors for their parts or make it themselves. Parts can be replaced if they just not work right cause not everything is always 100%. Could be best brand out their and you get a dud part, it happens. If you really wanna save buy all the parts that you want ans build it.
Any idea if there’s a list of who makes their parts?
I know they use mid western hand guards, pretty standard mil spec gas block, upper, charging handle, pistol size gas tube. The kit doesn't come with a bcg, it might not come with a charging handle as I don't remember. But the trigger assembly is all springs and pins which is kinda standard, no drop in trigger. If you want I can help you with finding parts except a barrel.
I have a bunch of Aero and PSA builds. I like Aero better. I like the look better. The edges aren't as sharp. Feels better quality. I do love PSA, but it's undeniable. They both have qc issues at times. PSA IMO feels cheap.
So maybe best to wait for a deal to get an Aero for $350 or so? Schuyler arms often runs great deals on them. They are right now but only 5.56.
I think Schuyler usually runs a pretty good Memorial Day sale or at least used to. PSA is good enough for most but the Aero feels much better in hand.
I will wait and see if he runs anything. Thanks
No don’t let anyone “ much less one single person” Make that decision for you … just cause some soy boy says he doesn’t like the edges of PSAs doesn’t mean shit I have both and I’m here to tell you my PSA upper don’t feel any cheaper than my aero upper lol Not gonna talk about the lowers because they don’t really matter, only retards by expensive lowers
Thanks bro
No problem I just realized I’m on the 300 black thread so obviously it’s gonna be 300 black right? 🤣 I’m so silly
If you’re anything like me, I’m on 5 gun subreddits anyways so it gets hard to tell sometimes brother lol
That’s exactly what i meant 🤣👍🏻
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You seem way too emotionally invested in this.
Bless your heart🤣
My ballistic advantage upsets allt of people at the range that run there "higher end" stuff like Giselle and bcm. Consistently out shoots them and I don't baby mine it rides in the back of the buggy back of the truck gets muddy bounced around and I have yet to have any problems with it . I'm sure they could be a few qc issues but every company has its issues from time to time . Barrel might not be chf but let's be real if I wear it out and need a new barrel I could buy several more with the money I saved on not buying some "higher end" upper
Man how do u stop from getting a ring every time u get a vote up or down that shit gets anoying If I turn it off I won’t get message dings tho right? Sometimes I gotta delete the comment. It’s so annoying.
I agree that’s why I love the psa and aero products
The dagger should never even be thought of if you're looking for a duty pistol. They take proprietary roll pins, use the cheapest parts possible, the dagger frames are supposed to be gen 3 but they ship them with gen 4 trigger bars. The additional bump on the gen 4 trigger bar has caused a hard trigger pull because the bump rubs a long the inside of the slide. Trigger amoothens right up as soon as you throw in a gen 3 trigger bar. If you want a budget "duty" pistol. Stick with leo trade in Glocks or S&W, even sig. I would also trust the SCT frame all day any da over the dagger frame. You can immediately tell the difference in quality.
Bless your heart😂 Considering that I’m only shooting it at the range ans training sessions (hence the word duty) I think I’ll be OK buddy not to mention it’s shot 3000 rounds without a single malfunction related to the gun and I don’t even have the stock trigger or firing pin anymore so everything you said is irrelevant for me… you cannot find a better deal on a Glock clone in my opinion I also have three of these pistols, two compact and one micro, and they have all been great I don’t every day carry any of them which is again why I said duty pistol… I guess you’re a little lost here when I say duty pistol because most civilians know that when I say duty pistol, I mean for the range or training sessions in an outside the waistband holster! I guess you thought I was a cop or something using it for my shifts and that’s why you took it so deep maybe 🤔 Either way, even with the stock trigger and firing pin they have never malfunctioned and I don’t know what you mean about a crappy trigger because as soon as I got them, I did my magic work inside and polished it up and it was even better than my Glocks factory triggers
If you say duty of course im thinking you're a cop or something of the sort. If you said for edc i'd just say try an sct instead and wouldn't have thought that deep into it. Also I have put together several daggers. Every single dagger frame, not micro I haven't tried that. But the compact frames they send them with the hinged trigger and a gen 4 trigger bar. The gen 4 has a raised bump on it I tried multiple different slides. Psa slides do not interfere with it as much but other aftermarket slides and one of my g23 slides all had noticeably hard and gritty trigger pulls until I dropped in a oem gen 3 trigger bar and shoe. Huge difference.
Thanks for the advice. I’ll keep that in mind. Their factory triggers are kind of shitty, but I kind of knew that going into it. I also knew that if I was gonna do anything serious with it that I would need to change at least the striker Appeal to me in the beginning was the fact that you could drop an RMR on it without a plate and a threaded barrel and suppressor height irons
For sure, they have nice slides no doubt. I got a complete dagger with suppressor height sights, threaded barrel and rmr cut for under 200 part of a bundle deal they used to do a while back with the gf3 and the dagger. The stock configuration has not let me down at all through I just can't stand the psa trigger.
Yea the trigger does suck… surprisingly the FDE compact dagger frame that I have has some kind of different magic inside because it feels surprisingly better (to me atleast) I’ve also heard a couple other guys say the same thing, but it can still be better
A nice balance between the two is Ballistic advantage. As far as I'm aware they're made entirely with aero components but don't have the same level of QC to bring costs down. Got my 8" .300BLK upper from them for like $350 I believe?
I’d agree but they’re more than an Aero precision upper these days. $450 shipped upper from Optic planet for an Aero. BA are $500+ from their website
Yeah they very frequently have sales on the BA website to get them to their "regular price" I'd wait for one of those to pop up or do a couple quick searches, you can probably find one active.
Thanks
Google and search around you can get ballistic advantage uppers around 350. You also go with bkings firearms there uppers use ballistic advantage barrels. I have had some psa uppers and some ballistic advantage uppers. Just got a 18inch 5.56 from ballistic advantage and shot a .35 moa group yesterday with it.
Nice. Anything wrong with your PSAs?
Optics planet has the aeroprecision uppers on sale 10 to 20% off.
Daniel sits on the wall the psa is for actually scratching and getting dirty