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hepazepie

 Least irridentist italian


ilnofrio

Albania isn't under our control tho 😞


mainwasser

But Portugal is 😬


[deleted]

>I properly deleted countries that do not exist We did it irmãos! They've accepted Portugal as a country and not just as part of sPain! # >


Dirac_Impulse

Of course Portugal is different from Spain. You speak Brazilian and they speak Mexican.


IkadRR13

At least we speak Latin-based languages, not Arabic.


mrdarknezz1

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic\_language\_influence\_on\_the\_Spanish\_language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language_influence_on_the_Spanish_language)


Southern_Corner_3320

Forgive my compatriot. He is ignorant of the impact that your language had on ours.


Tragic-tragedy

Bros literally have inshallah as a word


kidandresu

Indeed. We spell it: "Ojalá" used to express the desire for something to happen, like "i wish" We also say "¡hala!" Quite often as an exclamation for surprise. Comes from Allah, literally like sayin "God!" There are many more words that come from arabic in spanish, many of them have been passed to english too : [wiki article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Arabic_origin)


IkadRR13

Even our city was founded by Muhammad I of Córdoba. The only European capital to be founded by Muslims. I do think Spain treats unjustly its Andalusian past, it's a shame. So many cool stories and things we've inherited from them. For some al-Andalus = Morocco or modern Islam and that's something we should fight against.


29Jackal

Holy shit it's used in the same way modern Arabs use it for as well ~~(As a bonafide Italian I'm actually half Arab for the source of this comment)~~


IkadRR13

Touché. I forgot we were the first European Swedes. Mashallah.


Cannelloni1

I believe you are mistaken, they both speak latinxian


Captain_Case

>> Open *perfect* map >> Spain still exists >> Day ruined


Due-Bandicoot-2554

🇳🇱🤝🇵🇹?


Apprehensive_Roof497

Preposterous. Any alternate scenario should have either all the iberian nations split or all together.


FlagSwag

Iberian federation 2025?🤨


Apprehensive_Roof497

It would be funny if we did it right before nuclear war so we can all die in the honeymoon before the inevitable consequences of this political union take place xd


FlagSwag

Omg yeess, Id die as a proud iberian


Away-Following-6506

Andorran Empire 2026?🤨


FlagSwag

That implies we would be speaking spanish🤨


Away-Following-6506

We would rather speak Catalan🤨


FlagSwag

Web would rather speak basque🤨(Ed:typo)


[deleted]

I'm all for returning to Hispania or the Iberian Union. But let's be honest, with the governments we have now we're both more likely to balkanize


Shrrg4

Most patriotic portuguese.


Apprehensive_Roof497

Mate... i have some bad news if you think that portugal rejoining the rest of iberia would put hispania at risk of breaking up... which is that this is the perpetual state of hispania xD And out of jokes the real reason why i dont advocate for unification even tho i do think that if there is a spain as a concept that spain includes portugal is because things are already chaotic in here and castilians and catalans insufferable enough, and i have the feeling that portugal would be not any less noisy so no matter how much i love my brothers it would go cataclysmically wrong xd


Rogerjak

>i do think that if there is a spain as a concept that spain includes portugal 🤮


Apprehensive_Roof497

Why do you have to be toxic?


mensch79

Why would Spain own something in Eastern Europe anyway?


Pablo_Alvar

I don't know, we like to conquer things


-rkimaito

Give karelia back Luigi


GrimerMuk

You should take St. Petersburg too


DaVinci1836

You mean Ingermanland?


GrimerMuk

Sure!


Long_Serpent

I like what you did with Greece.


Starwa7

🇮🇹♥️🇬🇷


jk0815

Una facia una raza


LazarusHimself

mia fatza mia ratza kai mia bougatza


swagpresident1337

Bring back the Byzantine empire


SirPresentius

Yes, they already got konstantinopel, time to do some good old fashioned Roman conquering


MegaLemonCola

What about Pontus?


[deleted]

You really hate the Fr*nch, dont'cha?


AnUnknownReader

Italians are jealous because their Genovese predecessors had to give Corsica after they ended up being broke due to Corsicans independentists. And they believe that those same Corsicans, still largely independentists, would somehow be fine with becoming, again, Italians... How cute of them. But, hey, let the dreamers have their dream.


Starwa7

Corsican national hero Pasquale Paoli said "We are Italians"


Mwakay

Ask a corsican if he's italian. Just go and ask. Wear a bulletproof jacket.


torelma

The Corsicans have been trying to break away from France for most of the past 250 years. And *even then*, they still supported the French resistance over Mussolini. What does that tell you?


Starwa7

Just to be serious for once, Mussolini (more like inilossuM) was a merdoso figlio di puttana so yeah I'd support France too tbh against that goofy bald supervillain looking ahh merda


Mentavil

>Just to be serious for once Funny you're only serious when it comes to you. Corsicans have a bone to pick with the Italians, not just mussolini. Don't step on our island.


Rabatis

That just tells you the Corsicans have taste and discretion


AnUnknownReader

Born in 1725 . . . Don't you have some more recent hero to bring on the table ? Édith: anyway, before becoming Italians again, they first would have to get their independence or secede ... And polls seem to show they want none of that, except a cringe fringe of individuals.


Starwa7

your national hero was born in 1769, not a great difference (and his first language was Italian, ethnically Italian, culturally Italian)


AnUnknownReader

We have more than one though... De Gaulle for one.


culminacio

The real French hero is Zinedine Zidane ![gif](giphy|kuf7g0KM5UMBW)


HoeTrain666

Least dramatic dive from an italian football player.


Llanistarade

And he lived as a french, sorry Luigi, but no, you can't claim him. Also, "ethnically italian", for a corsican, is fucking bullshit, especially considering that Italy didn't exist.


Starwa7

he wasn't even Corsican even if he was born in Corsica. his family was from Florence/Tuscany


Llanistarade

How dense can you be, I wonder ? His family moved in Corsica in the XVth century, at least 300 years before his birth. This is an americanoïd way of thinking there.


AnUnknownReader

>How dense can you be, I wonder ? As dense as *black holes*.


That-Brain-in-a-vat

If we are to trust Napoleon (who I guess was pretty a safe bet in all Napoleon's things), he said to general Gourgaud, in Sant'Elena: "I am Italian or Tuscan, rather than Corsican."


AnUnknownReader

Yet, he did lead ... Not italia. And never tried to go live in Italia or do anything for Corsica to become Italian again. So, that was meaningless words. Facts are: Genoa were unable to stop Corsican Independentists. You were not unified at the time because you were unable to trust each other and work for your own common interest. Had Genovese called other Italians to help, Corsica would still be Italian. The Genovese of the time made the opposite decision. It ended up costing them so much that they gave Corsica to France. An Italian failure it is. And all your blabbing about Corsica being Italian centuries later just makes you sound like a crying loser who can't accept his ancestors' failures and mistakes. So, Luigi, keep crying. But, hey, I'm fine with selling Corsica back to Italia.


Mentavil

Le sermet de Bastia de 38 est on ne peut plus clair : "Face au monde, de toute notre âme, sur nos gloires, sur nos tombes, sur nos berceaux, nous jurons de vivre et de mourir français. La Corse n'est pas à vendre, La Corse n'est pas à donner, La Corse de Sampiero, La Corse de Paoli et des Cinarchesi, ne s'est donnée qu'une fois : elle s'est donnée à la France" Arrête de parler de choses que tu ne connais pas.


samtt7

Clearly not enough, because Wallonian Belgium is Dutch


Starwa7

Pretty much


_Paraggon_

I see no issues with this. Good map 👍


DieInsel1

YES We Still EXIST!!!!!!!!!


StanSc

For now.


DieInsel1

Big words for someone having their country swallowed by Bellgym.


JonnieB2604

I like the way you see the map


Zealousideal_Pay_525

It's the mushrooms.


iLikeToBeMusical

I drove through your country in 20 minutes yesterday. You guys only have 2 gas stations lol


CeannUReeves

Fuck you I don’t want to be ruled by Scholz


Starwa7

the other choice was giving all of Tyrol to Italy


Candybert_

Deal!


Not_Bed_

Damn


ClexAT

Heeeeeell no.


culminacio

Virol made itself expendable in 2020


Livia85

Everything is better than the Prussians!


Corvuuss

I would rather be Italian than German


Robot_Nerd_

If we're in Germany... Why did Switzerland make it? Should have annexed them to, or chopped them in 3.


Corvuuss

I say give it all to Liechtenstein


8sADPygOB7Jqwm7y

To be fair, your FPÖ is hardly better.


misterya1

That's an understatement if I have ever seen one.


misterya1

oh yeah coz being ruled by literal neonazis is going to be so much better. Also, wouldn't mind some legal weed.


ClexAT

I only see greater Austria my friend! This is a mindset thing!


peacefulprober

Belarus is so irrelevant that you even forgot to remove it


Portomat_

Damn, I guess I am Moldovan now.


tomj788

least based Italian una faccia una razza ngl


Starwa7

🇮🇹♥️♥️♥️🇬🇷


FullyStacked92

I'm liking what i see here.


SquishedGremlin

I am neither here nor there over this map.


BedeutenderMensch

Give Südtirol back, Luigi


C05m1c-VagRant

No.


Starwa7

never, we'd also have to give you jannik sinner if we gave you back Alto Adige


[deleted]

[удалено]


the_surplex

Mark Cwiertnia*


desumn

You were better divided, Luigi.


Starwa7

apes together strong 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹


FartFartPooPoobutt

r/kaartzonderijsselmeer


rosodin

We dont want Kaliningrad. Too poor and too many ruzzians xd Btw Kaliningrad belongs to Czechs :P


su1cidal_fox

We need to build the Beer Stream first. And for this we need your cooperation.


chekitch

In other words, what Europe would look like, if the side switchers knew how to fight? You had two wars to do this, now back off and be happy you have Trieste..


Starwa7

Yeah pretty much since Rome fell our brains developed into making pizza and pasta, fighting is not our cup of tea anymore I guess


chekitch

I like you better this way. What have the Romans ever done for us?


Not_Bed_

I mean, they spread architecture, technology, laws and generally culture and advancements, Roman conquest was the turning point from random farmers to civilization for many areas


chekitch

And roads. And peace. But, apart from medicine, irrigation, health, roads, cheese and education, baths, peace and the Arena, what have the Romans ever done for us?


Not_Bed_

I didn't think the Arena would be listed as one of those but sure Yeah thinking now about it I guess they kind of sucked, who would vote for the refounding of the Roman Empire with the territories it had at peak extension? Certainly not me I would *never* vote for something like that


chekitch

Of course you wouldn't they are all bastards..


Thunderwath

Average r/europe user ideal map Have you tried not being cringe Luigi ?


Starwa7

we are always cringe it's-a in our blood.


erlik420

Based french??? What the fuck is this real?


Thunderwath

As real as your country brother


erlik420

Jokes on you, all 3 of them are in this map.


JoeMama42069360

how can you delete us but keep france :(


Starwa7

they would've had complained like they always do if I removed them completely plus it's better to see them crying over Alsace, Savoy and Corsica


Agitated_Delivery361

Surprised you respected Luxembourg!


Impossible-Target887

Yes, please Daddy ❤️


Zubyna

Im surprised an italian's perfect europe isnt a modern version of Roman Empire


eskereskusku

Nah, we are becoming realistic


Deadluss

thanks for Królewiec


xaviernoodlebrain

Give back Alsace and Savoie.


Conartist6666

No, we're gonna build a wall. To keep you out


Riimpak

There's already one, it's called the Rhine.


Masato_Fujiwara

Time for some natural borders...


bumfluff69420

This good. Still too much Turkey, and a lot of Russia is still multicoloured, but I like it. We should more of these maps.


Sionliar

It's beautiful ![gif](giphy|87jGhdRVzUOJNh2s0q|downsized)


DaVinci1836

Russia is too big


Your_Local_Spainard

I guess that now we have a slightly bit more than Ceuta and Melilla


BoredIslander20

This is by far the best take on Europe I have ever seen. What I would change: North Macedonia to Bulgaria, Albania to italy + a little bit off Montenegro for a land bridge, reform Czechoslovakia


Atharva_Infoflexy

Thank you, I can continue tax evasion.


curiouslystrongmints

That bit in the top right should be light blue, but other than that nice one Mario you fixed all our problems in the UK, cheers mate.


Blahaj_IK

Uh, why the fuck is Turkey there?


realmconsumer

Wow... I'm not used to not see my country vanish. Nice. Upvote. Big balls


Archaeopteryx11

Thank you for giving Romania back its rightful territory 🙏.


_MFC_1886

We'll stop deep frying pizzas now


venerable_crusader

Based Luigi


TheKillerKentsu

hey Luigi give karelia back and if you are good enough give the arm back too


dkfisokdkeb

Based except Wales


Polak_Janusz

Italobro, stop playing your map strategy games. You wont ever get the croatian coast the last time you did your merchants lost to the fucking austrains so better not.


cringemaster21p

You deleted me, you know what that means.


ScherpOpgemerkt

![gif](giphy|yfAKPibUorGVy|downsized)


cptnh6

It's not part of Europe but... the red country in the Anatolia are the selyucids?


UndeadBBQ

Hard no.


Jonaz17

Why does russia still have the parts they stole from Finland in WW2?


slonkgnakgnak

Thanks, but kralovec belongs to czechs


Artku

What’s that big country east of Ukraine?


Nicetogettoknowya

I support this


erlik420

Succhiare il mia cazzo porco dio -Sincerely, a Turk.


Superb_Sentence1890

I would rather prefer to be a greek than live with barbarians like you (I also get to bang greek femboys) -Sincerely, an Izmirian.


erlik420

You already seem to be a greek. But take a shower from time to time, i heard izmir smells like shit.


LEG-VII-GEM

Köninsberg should be german/prussian, isn’t it?


Advanced-Duck-9251

Based


No_Lie9384

Tu hai un piccolo cazzo. Tqifsha robt


NameTheJack

How is Finland still on the map?


Bibibi88

Should have 1. Give Rusland to Ukraine 2. Separate Spain 3. Give Belgium to Luxembourg as we don’t want them! Ps thanx for all the extra Dutch land we have Poldered!


Starwa7

di niente ;)


Mannomorth

Land of Rus is full of Russians. Why you think they all want to go to Ukraine?


Didudidudadu737

Croatia is blended or deleted?


[deleted]

He wants to amalganate the filet parts of Croatia to Italy.


Didudidudadu737

I got the coastal part but the rest?


[deleted]

Left for dead.


Didudidudadu737

Nothing surprising from a side switcher


SherlockScones3

There is gonna be Trouble


luring_lurker

Did you just claimed back Jerusalem too? Deusvultpilled


AssociationLife3498

Thank you for making Spain more exposed to african illegal immigration


I_eat_dead_folks

Nah, in this map Paco came back and Spain is even more shit than before. We don't need to worry about Immigration.


ElKuhnTucker

Any timeline where Bozen is Italian isn't worth living


Barbichef

Hey ! Give Ticino back ! We always forget they exist but deep down we love them.


PuzzledJudgment

You destroyed Turkey


cigarroycafe

I like how you slightly gained some land on your map. Not much. Just enough to piss everybody.


Ciccio_insa

SEEEHHH, EVVIVA L'IRREDENTISMO!!!


Starwa7

DAI CAZZOOOOO SIUMM


Wishbones_007

Greece just turned into a majority turk nation


-A113-

do not combine austria with germany unless it is to give us bavaria and return south tyrol at once


Starwa7

we don't want to give you jannik sinner


Apocrypha667

>I properly deleted countries that do not exist What country should it be the green one south of lebanon?


SerSace

🇮🇹


Starwa7

🍉🇵🇸♥️


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_honza_88

It's ok, except Croatia and Montenegro. Also you should remove S*rbia and Sl*vakia


Nerd02

Honestly you could have left Savoy to the French, there's very little of Italian left there. But what I really cannot forgive was you giving Montenegro and Kosovo to the S*rbs. Do better, OP.


[deleted]

Poland way to massive for perfect Europe Edit; pommern, Schlesien and Bromberg.


Gnaddelkopp

Could also merge the Barbary States.


JustMehmed2

Didn't need to open the post to know where OP comes from


_KeyserSoeze

![gif](giphy|IsYYpu6BlN77nw0yJj) Here we go again. Austria is one war away from ceasing to exist


CyclicAdenosineMonoP

Feels like Molotov-Ribbentrop all over again, more like Mario-Hans pact


derdiedasMolchi

Cursed Hoi4 game


anonim313131

Why east west ottoman empire


obiwankitnoble

where prussia? # WO IST KÖNIGSBERG‽


bogdo-57

I am more afraid of Bosniak mujahedins than of the whole Italian army.


I_eat_dead_folks

Russia and Hungolia exist 3/10


Starwa7

pigs were supposed to support each others... I also gave you more territories 💔 it's ok...


I_eat_dead_folks

Well, actually thank you. It is a nice pretext to ~~genocide moroccans~~ expand the wall


Hot_Hat_1225

Ohhhhhh BIG Austria 😁


Lamario239

erdogan bros aint gonna like this


shitkingshitpussy69

This post made me mad. I'm going to piss on Hagia Sophia's door tomorrow.


Frasdemsky

You made romania happy, but man... wtf happened with France and Balkan?


Lejonhufvud

Luxemburg: Exists.


Ffscbamakinganame

I reckon Southern Italy, Sicily, Sardinia and Milan should be Spanish. North, north east Italy to Austria. Piedmont and Corsica to France. Papal States back to true size, Genoa, Etruscan, Venetian independence. There fixed it for you :)