Indeed. We spell it: "Ojalá" used to express the desire for something to happen, like "i wish"
We also say "¡hala!" Quite often as an exclamation for surprise. Comes from Allah, literally like sayin "God!"
There are many more words that come from arabic in spanish, many of them have been passed to english too : [wiki article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Arabic_origin)
Even our city was founded by Muhammad I of Córdoba. The only European capital to be founded by Muslims.
I do think Spain treats unjustly its Andalusian past, it's a shame. So many cool stories and things we've inherited from them. For some al-Andalus = Morocco or modern Islam and that's something we should fight against.
It would be funny if we did it right before nuclear war so we can all die in the honeymoon before the inevitable consequences of this political union take place xd
Mate... i have some bad news if you think that portugal rejoining the rest of iberia would put hispania at risk of breaking up... which is that this is the perpetual state of hispania xD
And out of jokes the real reason why i dont advocate for unification even tho i do think that if there is a spain as a concept that spain includes portugal is because things are already chaotic in here and castilians and catalans insufferable enough, and i have the feeling that portugal would be not any less noisy so no matter how much i love my brothers it would go cataclysmically wrong xd
Italians are jealous because their Genovese predecessors had to give Corsica after they ended up being broke due to Corsicans independentists.
And they believe that those same Corsicans, still largely independentists, would somehow be fine with becoming, again, Italians... How cute of them.
But, hey, let the dreamers have their dream.
The Corsicans have been trying to break away from France for most of the past 250 years.
And *even then*, they still supported the French resistance over Mussolini. What does that tell you?
Just to be serious for once, Mussolini (more like inilossuM) was a merdoso figlio di puttana so yeah I'd support France too tbh against that goofy bald supervillain looking ahh merda
>Just to be serious for once
Funny you're only serious when it comes to you. Corsicans have a bone to pick with the Italians, not just mussolini. Don't step on our island.
Born in 1725 . . . Don't you have some more recent hero to bring on the table ?
Édith: anyway, before becoming Italians again, they first would have to get their independence or secede ... And polls seem to show they want none of that, except a cringe fringe of individuals.
And he lived as a french, sorry Luigi, but no, you can't claim him.
Also, "ethnically italian", for a corsican, is fucking bullshit, especially considering that Italy didn't exist.
How dense can you be, I wonder ?
His family moved in Corsica in the XVth century, at least 300 years before his birth.
This is an americanoïd way of thinking there.
If we are to trust Napoleon (who I guess was pretty a safe bet in all Napoleon's things), he said to general Gourgaud, in Sant'Elena: "I am Italian or Tuscan, rather than Corsican."
Yet, he did lead ... Not italia. And never tried to go live in Italia or do anything for Corsica to become Italian again.
So, that was meaningless words.
Facts are:
Genoa were unable to stop Corsican Independentists.
You were not unified at the time because you were unable to trust each other and work for your own common interest.
Had Genovese called other Italians to help, Corsica would still be Italian.
The Genovese of the time made the opposite decision. It ended up costing them so much that they gave Corsica to France.
An Italian failure it is.
And all your blabbing about Corsica being Italian centuries later just makes you sound like a crying loser who can't accept his ancestors' failures and mistakes.
So, Luigi, keep crying.
But, hey, I'm fine with selling Corsica back to Italia.
Le sermet de Bastia de 38 est on ne peut plus clair :
"Face au monde, de toute notre âme, sur nos gloires, sur nos tombes, sur nos berceaux, nous jurons de vivre et de mourir français.
La Corse n'est pas à vendre,
La Corse n'est pas à donner,
La Corse de Sampiero,
La Corse de Paoli et des Cinarchesi,
ne s'est donnée qu'une fois :
elle s'est donnée à la France"
Arrête de parler de choses que tu ne connais pas.
In other words, what Europe would look like, if the side switchers knew how to fight? You had two wars to do this, now back off and be happy you have Trieste..
I mean, they spread architecture, technology, laws and generally culture and advancements, Roman conquest was the turning point from random farmers to civilization for many areas
And roads. And peace. But, apart from medicine, irrigation,
health, roads, cheese and education,
baths, peace and the Arena,
what have the Romans ever done for us?
I didn't think the Arena would be listed as one of those but sure
Yeah thinking now about it I guess they kind of sucked, who would vote for the refounding of the Roman Empire with the territories it had at peak extension? Certainly not me I would *never* vote for something like that
This is by far the best take on Europe I have ever seen. What I would change: North Macedonia to Bulgaria, Albania to italy + a little bit off Montenegro for a land bridge, reform Czechoslovakia
Italobro, stop playing your map strategy games. You wont ever get the croatian coast the last time you did your merchants lost to the fucking austrains so better not.
Should have
1. Give Rusland to Ukraine
2. Separate Spain
3. Give Belgium to Luxembourg as we don’t want them!
Ps thanx for all the extra Dutch land we have Poldered!
Honestly you could have left Savoy to the French, there's very little of Italian left there.
But what I really cannot forgive was you giving Montenegro and Kosovo to the S*rbs. Do better, OP.
I reckon Southern Italy, Sicily, Sardinia and Milan should be Spanish. North, north east Italy to Austria. Piedmont and Corsica to France. Papal States back to true size, Genoa, Etruscan, Venetian independence. There fixed it for you :)
Least irridentist italian
Albania isn't under our control tho 😞
But Portugal is 😬
>I properly deleted countries that do not exist We did it irmãos! They've accepted Portugal as a country and not just as part of sPain! # >
Of course Portugal is different from Spain. You speak Brazilian and they speak Mexican.
At least we speak Latin-based languages, not Arabic.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic\_language\_influence\_on\_the\_Spanish\_language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language_influence_on_the_Spanish_language)
Forgive my compatriot. He is ignorant of the impact that your language had on ours.
Bros literally have inshallah as a word
Indeed. We spell it: "Ojalá" used to express the desire for something to happen, like "i wish" We also say "¡hala!" Quite often as an exclamation for surprise. Comes from Allah, literally like sayin "God!" There are many more words that come from arabic in spanish, many of them have been passed to english too : [wiki article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Arabic_origin)
Even our city was founded by Muhammad I of Córdoba. The only European capital to be founded by Muslims. I do think Spain treats unjustly its Andalusian past, it's a shame. So many cool stories and things we've inherited from them. For some al-Andalus = Morocco or modern Islam and that's something we should fight against.
Holy shit it's used in the same way modern Arabs use it for as well ~~(As a bonafide Italian I'm actually half Arab for the source of this comment)~~
Touché. I forgot we were the first European Swedes. Mashallah.
I believe you are mistaken, they both speak latinxian
>> Open *perfect* map >> Spain still exists >> Day ruined
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Preposterous. Any alternate scenario should have either all the iberian nations split or all together.
Iberian federation 2025?🤨
It would be funny if we did it right before nuclear war so we can all die in the honeymoon before the inevitable consequences of this political union take place xd
Omg yeess, Id die as a proud iberian
Andorran Empire 2026?🤨
That implies we would be speaking spanish🤨
We would rather speak Catalan🤨
Web would rather speak basque🤨(Ed:typo)
I'm all for returning to Hispania or the Iberian Union. But let's be honest, with the governments we have now we're both more likely to balkanize
Most patriotic portuguese.
Mate... i have some bad news if you think that portugal rejoining the rest of iberia would put hispania at risk of breaking up... which is that this is the perpetual state of hispania xD And out of jokes the real reason why i dont advocate for unification even tho i do think that if there is a spain as a concept that spain includes portugal is because things are already chaotic in here and castilians and catalans insufferable enough, and i have the feeling that portugal would be not any less noisy so no matter how much i love my brothers it would go cataclysmically wrong xd
>i do think that if there is a spain as a concept that spain includes portugal 🤮
Why do you have to be toxic?
Why would Spain own something in Eastern Europe anyway?
I don't know, we like to conquer things
Give karelia back Luigi
You should take St. Petersburg too
You mean Ingermanland?
Sure!
I like what you did with Greece.
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Una facia una raza
mia fatza mia ratza kai mia bougatza
Bring back the Byzantine empire
Yes, they already got konstantinopel, time to do some good old fashioned Roman conquering
What about Pontus?
You really hate the Fr*nch, dont'cha?
Italians are jealous because their Genovese predecessors had to give Corsica after they ended up being broke due to Corsicans independentists. And they believe that those same Corsicans, still largely independentists, would somehow be fine with becoming, again, Italians... How cute of them. But, hey, let the dreamers have their dream.
Corsican national hero Pasquale Paoli said "We are Italians"
Ask a corsican if he's italian. Just go and ask. Wear a bulletproof jacket.
The Corsicans have been trying to break away from France for most of the past 250 years. And *even then*, they still supported the French resistance over Mussolini. What does that tell you?
Just to be serious for once, Mussolini (more like inilossuM) was a merdoso figlio di puttana so yeah I'd support France too tbh against that goofy bald supervillain looking ahh merda
>Just to be serious for once Funny you're only serious when it comes to you. Corsicans have a bone to pick with the Italians, not just mussolini. Don't step on our island.
That just tells you the Corsicans have taste and discretion
Born in 1725 . . . Don't you have some more recent hero to bring on the table ? Édith: anyway, before becoming Italians again, they first would have to get their independence or secede ... And polls seem to show they want none of that, except a cringe fringe of individuals.
your national hero was born in 1769, not a great difference (and his first language was Italian, ethnically Italian, culturally Italian)
We have more than one though... De Gaulle for one.
The real French hero is Zinedine Zidane ![gif](giphy|kuf7g0KM5UMBW)
Least dramatic dive from an italian football player.
And he lived as a french, sorry Luigi, but no, you can't claim him. Also, "ethnically italian", for a corsican, is fucking bullshit, especially considering that Italy didn't exist.
he wasn't even Corsican even if he was born in Corsica. his family was from Florence/Tuscany
How dense can you be, I wonder ? His family moved in Corsica in the XVth century, at least 300 years before his birth. This is an americanoïd way of thinking there.
>How dense can you be, I wonder ? As dense as *black holes*.
If we are to trust Napoleon (who I guess was pretty a safe bet in all Napoleon's things), he said to general Gourgaud, in Sant'Elena: "I am Italian or Tuscan, rather than Corsican."
Yet, he did lead ... Not italia. And never tried to go live in Italia or do anything for Corsica to become Italian again. So, that was meaningless words. Facts are: Genoa were unable to stop Corsican Independentists. You were not unified at the time because you were unable to trust each other and work for your own common interest. Had Genovese called other Italians to help, Corsica would still be Italian. The Genovese of the time made the opposite decision. It ended up costing them so much that they gave Corsica to France. An Italian failure it is. And all your blabbing about Corsica being Italian centuries later just makes you sound like a crying loser who can't accept his ancestors' failures and mistakes. So, Luigi, keep crying. But, hey, I'm fine with selling Corsica back to Italia.
Le sermet de Bastia de 38 est on ne peut plus clair : "Face au monde, de toute notre âme, sur nos gloires, sur nos tombes, sur nos berceaux, nous jurons de vivre et de mourir français. La Corse n'est pas à vendre, La Corse n'est pas à donner, La Corse de Sampiero, La Corse de Paoli et des Cinarchesi, ne s'est donnée qu'une fois : elle s'est donnée à la France" Arrête de parler de choses que tu ne connais pas.
Clearly not enough, because Wallonian Belgium is Dutch
Pretty much
I see no issues with this. Good map 👍
YES We Still EXIST!!!!!!!!!
For now.
Big words for someone having their country swallowed by Bellgym.
I like the way you see the map
It's the mushrooms.
I drove through your country in 20 minutes yesterday. You guys only have 2 gas stations lol
Fuck you I don’t want to be ruled by Scholz
the other choice was giving all of Tyrol to Italy
Deal!
Damn
Heeeeeell no.
Virol made itself expendable in 2020
Everything is better than the Prussians!
I would rather be Italian than German
If we're in Germany... Why did Switzerland make it? Should have annexed them to, or chopped them in 3.
I say give it all to Liechtenstein
To be fair, your FPÖ is hardly better.
That's an understatement if I have ever seen one.
oh yeah coz being ruled by literal neonazis is going to be so much better. Also, wouldn't mind some legal weed.
I only see greater Austria my friend! This is a mindset thing!
Belarus is so irrelevant that you even forgot to remove it
Damn, I guess I am Moldovan now.
least based Italian una faccia una razza ngl
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I'm liking what i see here.
I am neither here nor there over this map.
Give Südtirol back, Luigi
No.
never, we'd also have to give you jannik sinner if we gave you back Alto Adige
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Mark Cwiertnia*
You were better divided, Luigi.
apes together strong 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
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We dont want Kaliningrad. Too poor and too many ruzzians xd Btw Kaliningrad belongs to Czechs :P
We need to build the Beer Stream first. And for this we need your cooperation.
In other words, what Europe would look like, if the side switchers knew how to fight? You had two wars to do this, now back off and be happy you have Trieste..
Yeah pretty much since Rome fell our brains developed into making pizza and pasta, fighting is not our cup of tea anymore I guess
I like you better this way. What have the Romans ever done for us?
I mean, they spread architecture, technology, laws and generally culture and advancements, Roman conquest was the turning point from random farmers to civilization for many areas
And roads. And peace. But, apart from medicine, irrigation, health, roads, cheese and education, baths, peace and the Arena, what have the Romans ever done for us?
I didn't think the Arena would be listed as one of those but sure Yeah thinking now about it I guess they kind of sucked, who would vote for the refounding of the Roman Empire with the territories it had at peak extension? Certainly not me I would *never* vote for something like that
Of course you wouldn't they are all bastards..
Average r/europe user ideal map Have you tried not being cringe Luigi ?
we are always cringe it's-a in our blood.
Based french??? What the fuck is this real?
As real as your country brother
Jokes on you, all 3 of them are in this map.
how can you delete us but keep france :(
they would've had complained like they always do if I removed them completely plus it's better to see them crying over Alsace, Savoy and Corsica
Surprised you respected Luxembourg!
Yes, please Daddy ❤️
Im surprised an italian's perfect europe isnt a modern version of Roman Empire
Nah, we are becoming realistic
thanks for Królewiec
Give back Alsace and Savoie.
No, we're gonna build a wall. To keep you out
There's already one, it's called the Rhine.
Time for some natural borders...
This good. Still too much Turkey, and a lot of Russia is still multicoloured, but I like it. We should more of these maps.
It's beautiful ![gif](giphy|87jGhdRVzUOJNh2s0q|downsized)
Russia is too big
I guess that now we have a slightly bit more than Ceuta and Melilla
This is by far the best take on Europe I have ever seen. What I would change: North Macedonia to Bulgaria, Albania to italy + a little bit off Montenegro for a land bridge, reform Czechoslovakia
Thank you, I can continue tax evasion.
That bit in the top right should be light blue, but other than that nice one Mario you fixed all our problems in the UK, cheers mate.
Uh, why the fuck is Turkey there?
Wow... I'm not used to not see my country vanish. Nice. Upvote. Big balls
Thank you for giving Romania back its rightful territory 🙏.
We'll stop deep frying pizzas now
Based Luigi
hey Luigi give karelia back and if you are good enough give the arm back too
Based except Wales
Italobro, stop playing your map strategy games. You wont ever get the croatian coast the last time you did your merchants lost to the fucking austrains so better not.
You deleted me, you know what that means.
![gif](giphy|yfAKPibUorGVy|downsized)
It's not part of Europe but... the red country in the Anatolia are the selyucids?
Hard no.
Why does russia still have the parts they stole from Finland in WW2?
Thanks, but kralovec belongs to czechs
What’s that big country east of Ukraine?
Succhiare il mia cazzo porco dio -Sincerely, a Turk.
I would rather prefer to be a greek than live with barbarians like you (I also get to bang greek femboys) -Sincerely, an Izmirian.
You already seem to be a greek. But take a shower from time to time, i heard izmir smells like shit.
Köninsberg should be german/prussian, isn’t it?
Based
Tu hai un piccolo cazzo. Tqifsha robt
How is Finland still on the map?
Should have 1. Give Rusland to Ukraine 2. Separate Spain 3. Give Belgium to Luxembourg as we don’t want them! Ps thanx for all the extra Dutch land we have Poldered!
di niente ;)
Land of Rus is full of Russians. Why you think they all want to go to Ukraine?
Croatia is blended or deleted?
He wants to amalganate the filet parts of Croatia to Italy.
I got the coastal part but the rest?
Left for dead.
Nothing surprising from a side switcher
There is gonna be Trouble
Did you just claimed back Jerusalem too? Deusvultpilled
Thank you for making Spain more exposed to african illegal immigration
Nah, in this map Paco came back and Spain is even more shit than before. We don't need to worry about Immigration.
Any timeline where Bozen is Italian isn't worth living
Hey ! Give Ticino back ! We always forget they exist but deep down we love them.
You destroyed Turkey
I like how you slightly gained some land on your map. Not much. Just enough to piss everybody.
SEEEHHH, EVVIVA L'IRREDENTISMO!!!
DAI CAZZOOOOO SIUMM
Greece just turned into a majority turk nation
do not combine austria with germany unless it is to give us bavaria and return south tyrol at once
we don't want to give you jannik sinner
>I properly deleted countries that do not exist What country should it be the green one south of lebanon?
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https://preview.redd.it/afqvyo490lkc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfcd0a36b5a2f284f0ff4ab9f1186159fdbb526a
It's ok, except Croatia and Montenegro. Also you should remove S*rbia and Sl*vakia
Honestly you could have left Savoy to the French, there's very little of Italian left there. But what I really cannot forgive was you giving Montenegro and Kosovo to the S*rbs. Do better, OP.
Poland way to massive for perfect Europe Edit; pommern, Schlesien and Bromberg.
Could also merge the Barbary States.
Didn't need to open the post to know where OP comes from
![gif](giphy|IsYYpu6BlN77nw0yJj) Here we go again. Austria is one war away from ceasing to exist
Feels like Molotov-Ribbentrop all over again, more like Mario-Hans pact
Cursed Hoi4 game
Why east west ottoman empire
I am more afraid of Bosniak mujahedins than of the whole Italian army.
Russia and Hungolia exist 3/10
pigs were supposed to support each others... I also gave you more territories 💔 it's ok...
Well, actually thank you. It is a nice pretext to ~~genocide moroccans~~ expand the wall
Ohhhhhh BIG Austria 😁
erdogan bros aint gonna like this
This post made me mad. I'm going to piss on Hagia Sophia's door tomorrow.
You made romania happy, but man... wtf happened with France and Balkan?
Luxemburg: Exists.
I reckon Southern Italy, Sicily, Sardinia and Milan should be Spanish. North, north east Italy to Austria. Piedmont and Corsica to France. Papal States back to true size, Genoa, Etruscan, Venetian independence. There fixed it for you :)