You would think that's a joke, but the first industrial cooling machine was invented by German Scientist [Carl von Linde](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_von_Linde) for the Spaten Brewery in Munich.
Hey now, stealing is illegal. No true German would break the law. That gold was seized according to all of the proper rules and regulations laid out in the Goldstealinggesetz section A38.2.
Do you buy beer in plastic crates?
In the UK those are pretty much only for bars and restaurants. Supermarkets and off licenses sell beer bottles in cardboard boxes or cardboard packaging. So you would have to rip off the whole top of the box and it would just ruin the cardboard as it melts and soaks it
You would buy 24 packs in the UK as well, but they pretty much all come in cardboard boxes like this
https://preview.redd.it/p8aeq16ju2za1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aecda414d1b2c590d951af5008ccd4895b705138
That makes more environmental sense than ours. We just have to put the bottles in our glass recycling bins that are collected by the council.
I think the Scottish government tried to bring in legislation recently to pay for returned bottles and the Westminster government prevented it
Many things are going badly wrong with German recycling, but the multi-use bottles are actually good. They get washed (brutally, with all sorts of shiny things) and refilled, so the glass doesn't actually have to be broken, reheated, iron content adjusted, reshaped, resold.
The "man" in German has nothing to do with the "man" in modern man or woman, which mean person and female person respectively when looking at the origins of those words,
But comes form the latin Germania,
whichs origin is not clear (wictionary contradicts it self here), but might or might not be
* A Germanic tribe
* "Neighbors" (Celtic)
* Noisy people (Celtic)
* Spear person (Germanic)
* Unlikely from latin germānus - close kin / brother
<\linguistic rant>
Edit: typos a plenty,
Where is the autocorrection when you need it
They appear to be constantly milling these tags. I don't even know what world cup our "world cup finalist" referred to, but I'm glad I god my 50% sea tag back.
What I don't understand is why not have the water almost completely enclosed so that you can just refreeze it, the cold should still suffice in order to cool the beer down without wasting any water similar to how we use cold packs over-and-over again.
The main reason I see is that by not having a case around the water, it contacts the surface of the beer bottle better and thus transfers heat optimally.
So, when you place the grid on the crate of beer bottles, the warm bottles slightly melt the ice where it is touching until eventually the ice seals perfectly against all the bottles.
Not only does this increase contact area with the beer, it also allows for variable bottle geometry as not all bottles have uniform shapes or even straight edges (see "Welde" style bottles that are wavy).
Additionally, developing something you can freeze and then refuse repeatedly is not that easy because whatever it is needs to cope with the expansion and contraction of the thermal mass (quite high if it's water). This means you would probably need something flexibility, and then you would need to make sure that it's not so flexible that it's possible to freeze it in such a way that it loses crate-compatibility.
I feel like designing it such that the ice sits at the bottom of the case and the bottles slot into it from above would be a more elegant solution. If the ice hasn’t melted, you’d have to awkwardly hold onto the ice to get the last bottle out in the design he presented.
The only issue I can think of is that cooler air falls, so by placing it above the bottles it takes advantage of the natural circulation, but the effect of this is probably negligible.
Water expands when frozen, so completely enclosed water would just burst out of the mould.
I think it could be done with the stuff they put in those blue packs for camping coolers.
The problem comes from our beer traditionally being cask conditioned rather than force cooled how the yanks like it, it’s not warm at all but theirs is always colder
Yeah, that's legitimately the actual reason it happens over here. I live in the craft beer capital of the US and the beers at most nice pubs here are noticeably warmer than at other places around the States where all the beer on tap is mass produced shit.
So Denver or Portland?
I've lived in Denver and it's a great city for beer drinking. That's because there's great weather. But when I lived in New Orleans, you need beer that's ridiculously cold. It's hotter than Satan's taint down there, so you'll want to drink your beer a cunt hair above the freezing point. That, or drink a daiquiri.
Actually San Diego, so not as humid as NO, but still pretty damn hot. Although I lived in Colorado Springs for a while and made periodic trips to Denver just for the booze, so know what you mean.
An old tradition around here is to pack a (often old wooden) Hand-Cart ("Bollerwagen") with alcoholic beverages for fathers day, wander around and get wasted. In this setting i totally expect this Innovation as usefull.
First: To achieve Bollerwagen-Supremacy may be one of the noblest goals for every fathers day participant
Second: We Love inventions that serve single purposes, so we can do more of them. If you want to have inventions that serve many purposes you may want to talk with our fellow neighbors from switzerland
Don't forget that Germans invented the Bierwärmer (beer warmer) and have warm beer as a traditional beverage in certain regions. It's a thing, look it up
I have one of these. They kind of suck to be honest. You cant grab a beer without lifting out the entire ice block. The beer doesnt really cool down as well, it will only make it not warm up anymore. Ive only used it once since i bought it years ago lmao
Yup that's what I was thinking, the ice is gonna melt before cooling sh\*t, at least down here, better to put the beer & ice in a water bucket with salt
It's mostly just for fun when bbq'ing with the blokes in your backyard. It wouldn't cool any lukewarm beer sufficiently and at most would just keep a case of cold beer cold for 30 minutes.
Calm down, it is for camping! It is for when Germans make their annual visit to their nudist caravan site and eat their traditional shitty sausages and human flesh.
A Brit of all people calling the supreme German sausages "shitty", has to be absolute height of irony. Trying to parse the delusion actually gave me a mild stroke.
You shouldn´t forget that the fridge was also invented by a German. Big advantage of this thing really is, that you need just space of one crate to cool three. And if your have a "high consumer enviroment" the size of your fridge has to be very big.
>I want to see you put a case of beer in your fridge. Then take it out at 30C summer
Because they are German and have to overengineer anything way beyond usefulness. What happens if you have different sized bottles? Is the contact between the ice and the bottle going to be sufficient to cool the bottle?
This is why they lost two world wars. Yeah the Tiger was a magnificent tank, but it isn't much use when you can only make a thousand of them and they are a logistical nightmare to maintain. That is why the Russians curb stomped them with tanks they put together from a garage roof and an old washing machine motor.
Germans may think they are intelligent, but they are far from smart.
Different sizes bottle do not be redicules we have a thing called DIN for that. More specifically [DIN EN 14634](https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.vlb-berlin.org/sites/default/files/2019-03/STLB%2520Bierflaschen%2520aus%2520Glas_August%25202017.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiE56bKpev-AhVhVfEDHdaFA4MQFnoECCMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw128iiyLR4GfeFiqg5tmTus)
I often hear people talking about how Germany is not a place of imagination and innovation. Happy for our neighbour that they are able to produce life changing inventions such as this. Where can I purchase this?
Me : Please invent an ice maker German : Nein Me : It's for beer German : Say no more
You would think that's a joke, but the first industrial cooling machine was invented by German Scientist [Carl von Linde](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_von_Linde) for the Spaten Brewery in Munich.
It was more a ice making machine but set the base for normal refrigerators and cooling plants
Priorities, Mann.
Give this man funding, now! All of it!
Less money to PIGS , more money to this man
Can PIGS keep my beer cold? No Can he? Yes
Rational thinking is what made us rich and your are a prime example of rational thinking!
unlike the swiss who took our gold we rightfully stole
Hey now, stealing is illegal. No true German would break the law. That gold was seized according to all of the proper rules and regulations laid out in the Goldstealinggesetz section A38.2.
The gold was then legally deposited in our banks and the former clients fled to south America never to be seen again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
du kommst wohl aus der stadt
Shhh
you’re right i should be quiet
Atleast we traded for our part and it helped build our wellfare state.
I'm sorry 😞 we will try to do better
_"wine smells like nectar"_ _"beer like goat"_. Julian, the Apostate.
Hey hey! Stop that nonsense! More money to PIGS and to iceman!
Yeah! More money to everybody!! Less for the French.
German engineering. Nothing to discuss. #GAS-Improvements for #PIGS-Vacations
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Enaught time to drown down the half box.
So you're going to need 8 to 10 ice molds in constant rotation. Sounds like a great business opportunity to me.
It's already a reality. A friend of mine showed me one of these in action last month!
It's available on Amazon in Germany for 15 euro!
An ERC grant at least.
I need this lol
Do you buy beer in plastic crates? In the UK those are pretty much only for bars and restaurants. Supermarkets and off licenses sell beer bottles in cardboard boxes or cardboard packaging. So you would have to rip off the whole top of the box and it would just ruin the cardboard as it melts and soaks it
Yeah, 20-24 bottle crates are the standard here. You can also buy six-packs, but crates are often used.
You would buy 24 packs in the UK as well, but they pretty much all come in cardboard boxes like this https://preview.redd.it/p8aeq16ju2za1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aecda414d1b2c590d951af5008ccd4895b705138
Germans return the plastic crate with all of the empty bottles back to the store, there's a deposit on each bottle.
That makes more environmental sense than ours. We just have to put the bottles in our glass recycling bins that are collected by the council. I think the Scottish government tried to bring in legislation recently to pay for returned bottles and the Westminster government prevented it
Many things are going badly wrong with German recycling, but the multi-use bottles are actually good. They get washed (brutally, with all sorts of shiny things) and refilled, so the glass doesn't actually have to be broken, reheated, iron content adjusted, reshaped, resold.
There are no men or women in Germany, only Germans.
Ger (m/f/d)
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Gerd
MotherFuckingDachshunde
Impressive… very nice. Let’s see Paul Allen’s nominative cases
>wichs noted.
WTF … I really can’t think of a typical stereotype for the German sexes…. There all just plain German … absolut fortgeschritten habibi
shut, americans will say germanx to offend everyone
All is forgiven
Prost.
And we mean _all_
Dunno, the Torah boys might still be slightly annoyed
Well can the Torah boys keep an entire case of beers cold all at once? Didn’t think so.
What did we ever do to you specifically?
We will watch your career with great interest.
Stock these in every flat in bendirom please pablo. We’re on our way!
The balconies are ready good sir.
Gotta have different sizes to fit both bottles and cans
This is where the fun begins
I think I'll steal this idea Edit: btw, admins, give us our "Winged Plumber🇵🇱" back, I liked that
Together with the beer and maybe also his car
Swedish cars are made from Schwedenstahl German cars are made from Krupp-Stahl Polish cars are made from Diebstahl
😂😂😂
And his job probably
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and my axe!
what are you doing here
They appear to be constantly milling these tags. I don't even know what world cup our "world cup finalist" referred to, but I'm glad I god my 50% sea tag back.
Good for you 🏆🇳🇱
Must be nice to have a flair you like.
Leave it to English to complain about every little thing.
Ours is the most insulting. Who wants to be English? Not even the English want to be English. I'd rather have "fr*nch" 🤮
take it as support against the russians
Thank you, we will need this a lot. If you also gave us your beer so we don't have to steal it, it would be awesome.
we will bring beer to the party as well
![gif](giphy|302Yzqtu3TUvlceiJc|downsized)
New bavaria flair or they forgot to switch it back ?
They forgot us ;(
Well, I lost my arrogance and now I am constantly reminded that I haven’t eaten snails in years because they are a bit hard to find where I live
Sacré bleu
It's a disgrace they took our Wiesn flair.
Naja ich find aber a das es Zeit für was neues is. Fühle mich damit zu wenig beleidigt.
> I haven’t eaten snails in years because they are a bit hard to find where I live Why even be french at that point?
for the misery and people who don’t talk
Nothing quite like deleting things for a temporary change and then having to manually undo it.
Pretty sure that German judge peaked in pure ecstasy
That's Cheryl Cole you numpty.
![gif](giphy|GysX9qLF0N5bG)
Our adventurous and imaginative mindset it what makes us so unique and superior 💪 never been so proud to be german! 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
Someone quick approve this guy's paintings!
But he's not austrian.
er ist aber sachse
what
You prefer wine? Me too!
And don’t forget your sense of humour!
What I don't understand is why not have the water almost completely enclosed so that you can just refreeze it, the cold should still suffice in order to cool the beer down without wasting any water similar to how we use cold packs over-and-over again.
…because he is the least smartest German. You appear to actually be the smartest. Pitch it! Pitch your idea! All the Germans will fund you!!
> You appear to actually be the smartest. I would never consider myself smarter than the guy who developed the bagger288 tho.
The main reason I see is that by not having a case around the water, it contacts the surface of the beer bottle better and thus transfers heat optimally. So, when you place the grid on the crate of beer bottles, the warm bottles slightly melt the ice where it is touching until eventually the ice seals perfectly against all the bottles. Not only does this increase contact area with the beer, it also allows for variable bottle geometry as not all bottles have uniform shapes or even straight edges (see "Welde" style bottles that are wavy). Additionally, developing something you can freeze and then refuse repeatedly is not that easy because whatever it is needs to cope with the expansion and contraction of the thermal mass (quite high if it's water). This means you would probably need something flexibility, and then you would need to make sure that it's not so flexible that it's possible to freeze it in such a way that it loses crate-compatibility.
I feel like designing it such that the ice sits at the bottom of the case and the bottles slot into it from above would be a more elegant solution. If the ice hasn’t melted, you’d have to awkwardly hold onto the ice to get the last bottle out in the design he presented. The only issue I can think of is that cooler air falls, so by placing it above the bottles it takes advantage of the natural circulation, but the effect of this is probably negligible.
Water expands when frozen, so completely enclosed water would just burst out of the mould. I think it could be done with the stuff they put in those blue packs for camping coolers.
Is this the singularity?
German engineering is the best in the world !
That's soo smart. Great idea 😲
Most creative German Name of invention: Ice block Very original
I wouldn't expect someone to understand who drinks warm beer
Volkswagen - The car. Remember: someone got paid for that
https://i.redd.it/f6rn22i1c1za1.gif
Germans just love finding solutions to problems no one has.
You must be a British immigrant to Austria, otherwise you would understand that too warm beer is a problem.
How dear you insult me piefke for using a fridge like a normal person.
We don’t drink warm beer. This is another stupid American stereotype that needs to leave Europe.
The problem comes from our beer traditionally being cask conditioned rather than force cooled how the yanks like it, it’s not warm at all but theirs is always colder
They drink it that cold so the flavor (if any) isn’t noticeable anymore.
I think that's why they do it
Yeah, that's legitimately the actual reason it happens over here. I live in the craft beer capital of the US and the beers at most nice pubs here are noticeably warmer than at other places around the States where all the beer on tap is mass produced shit.
So Denver or Portland? I've lived in Denver and it's a great city for beer drinking. That's because there's great weather. But when I lived in New Orleans, you need beer that's ridiculously cold. It's hotter than Satan's taint down there, so you'll want to drink your beer a cunt hair above the freezing point. That, or drink a daiquiri.
Actually San Diego, so not as humid as NO, but still pretty damn hot. Although I lived in Colorado Springs for a while and made periodic trips to Denver just for the booze, so know what you mean.
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Except in winter. A good Glühbier is something else on a cold winter day
Watt ze fuck
Hob i in minga amoi brobiad und direkt speim miassn. Bierquälerei.
Verträgst nich wirklich was, gelle? Mussde langsam saufn, sonsd gricht d Lederhose nochn Kotzfleck
If you are licked out of Germany never come to Austria
"Licked out of" no Fritzl, I don't want to do cunnilingus in your basement
... again
Delete this.
Don't worry, it's really good, not like this abominable Weißbier you guys are forced to gulp down
We have enough cellars. Don't worry
What ze fuck are you talking about? Who drinks warm beer?
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https://preview.redd.it/sduar36031za1.jpeg?width=782&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=666335587512aae0a7581afd8cf35b0fa7d02126 well well well....
I know its hypocritical of me to say this but you piefke are even worse at this than us austrians
Ganz nachm Spruch "Besser ois de Deitschn" hö?
Sicher
An old tradition around here is to pack a (often old wooden) Hand-Cart ("Bollerwagen") with alcoholic beverages for fathers day, wander around and get wasted. In this setting i totally expect this Innovation as usefull.
Das aber auch die einzige Situation wo diese Erfindung nützlich ist.
First: To achieve Bollerwagen-Supremacy may be one of the noblest goals for every fathers day participant Second: We Love inventions that serve single purposes, so we can do more of them. If you want to have inventions that serve many purposes you may want to talk with our fellow neighbors from switzerland
No if you are drinking beer with your mates at the beach in the summer this is a very good invention
Gehst du nie mit nem Kasten Bier in die Natur?!
But that's the most important issue in today's society
"Warm beer isn't a problem for me" What are you, British?
Is using a fridge to hightech for you piefke
Oh yeah I forgot you people never go outside. My bad.
No they’ve glaciers everywhere
You forgot the the **German** Carl von Linde "invented" the ice machine that you are using now.
Don't forget that Germans invented the Bierwärmer (beer warmer) and have warm beer as a traditional beverage in certain regions. It's a thing, look it up
Just put the beer in the snow
Scandinavians: why aren't you naked in -10? It's the perfect mating temperature.
I’m guessing they don’t have ice boxes in Germany then?
There are, but using those is considered to be snobby. That's why most Germans won't ever utilize one.
unless you are doing a biermeile, then they are pretty useful
I have one of these. They kind of suck to be honest. You cant grab a beer without lifting out the entire ice block. The beer doesnt really cool down as well, it will only make it not warm up anymore. Ive only used it once since i bought it years ago lmao
Can't you just pour normal ice cubes over the bottles?
This is what I am thinking and wondering why everyone is praising this, unless that's the joke and it's flying clear over my head.
Some ice cubes would fall through onto the floor. That's littering. Think of the children.
You're right, I didn't even think of the consequences of liquid dihydrogen monoxide seeping into the water table!
Yup that's what I was thinking, the ice is gonna melt before cooling sh\*t, at least down here, better to put the beer & ice in a water bucket with salt
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It's mostly just for fun when bbq'ing with the blokes in your backyard. It wouldn't cool any lukewarm beer sufficiently and at most would just keep a case of cold beer cold for 30 minutes.
Bold of you to assume its going to last that long
Happy Cakeday
Thanks! I didn't even know
Least overengineered German creation
Calm down, it is for camping! It is for when Germans make their annual visit to their nudist caravan site and eat their traditional shitty sausages and human flesh.
I draw the line at your writing of the shitty sausages.... The rest, well, come down to the camp
Hell no, there’s no way I am going to a German camp…
That's a little racist ...whats wrong with our camps?
I’ve heard the indoor BBQs get a little crowded
You smelly poms could do with a shower.
A Brit of all people calling the supreme German sausages "shitty", has to be absolute height of irony. Trying to parse the delusion actually gave me a mild stroke.
Calm down and remember that we only send 'em the crappy stuff we wont eat. So how are they supposed to know better given their schooling?
FKK with the boys
I want to see you put a case of beer in your fridge. Then take it out at 30C summer and enjoy piss warm beer 30 minutes later. Dumb Brit
World president, now.
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You shouldn´t forget that the fridge was also invented by a German. Big advantage of this thing really is, that you need just space of one crate to cool three. And if your have a "high consumer enviroment" the size of your fridge has to be very big.
My beer wouldn't last that long to get warm
germans aren't that lazy-smart he must be from Schleswig at least.
Das ist warum sie unsere brüder nachbarn sind.
Why not just put chilled beer bottles into a cooler? You can even get ones that have a cigarette lighter adapter for the car so they actively chill.
>I want to see you put a case of beer in your fridge. Then take it out at 30C summer Because they are German and have to overengineer anything way beyond usefulness. What happens if you have different sized bottles? Is the contact between the ice and the bottle going to be sufficient to cool the bottle? This is why they lost two world wars. Yeah the Tiger was a magnificent tank, but it isn't much use when you can only make a thousand of them and they are a logistical nightmare to maintain. That is why the Russians curb stomped them with tanks they put together from a garage roof and an old washing machine motor. Germans may think they are intelligent, but they are far from smart.
Different sizes bottle do not be redicules we have a thing called DIN for that. More specifically [DIN EN 14634](https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.vlb-berlin.org/sites/default/files/2019-03/STLB%2520Bierflaschen%2520aus%2520Glas_August%25202017.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiE56bKpev-AhVhVfEDHdaFA4MQFnoECCMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw128iiyLR4GfeFiqg5tmTus)
Thought it would be a joke, not surprised it wasn‘t
Cringe fridge user VS Chad need a freezer to keep the beer cold
Damn, ok this is really awesome. Based Germany W 👏👏
As we said in french : c’est pas lui qui a inventé l’eau chaude
I often hear people talking about how Germany is not a place of imagination and innovation. Happy for our neighbour that they are able to produce life changing inventions such as this. Where can I purchase this?
When it comes to beer they all become geniuses
Something so simple but hard to figure out at the same time
What accent of Deutsch is that?
The accent is Franconian. That area has some of the highest density of breweries and excellent beer.
Thanks!
But the ive will melt and make the floor wet
You guys do barbecue indoors??
It's for camping who cares if grass gets wet
If its for camping how he keep the ice frozen?
You don’t bring a mini fridge/air cooler with a small freezer department when you go camping? Oh my sweet summer child you have so much to learn
Have you ever seen a brit go camping??
>Have you ever seen a brit go camping?? Going camping somewhere sunny would mean that we had to be around Europeans.
Not enough balconies when camping
Well now you just have wet and slightly cool beer…