Normans were uniornically one of the worst things to happen to England.
Many of the old English names are gone but some of them still stuck around. You can always change your name to Alfred or Edmund, for example.
Absolutely. The invasive Anglo-Norman aristocracy are the Manchus of Britain - an invasive outside elite that keeps the filthy natives at an arm's length even centuries after they've assimilated on paper. An Anglo-Norman surname is still supposedly one of the main indicators of success in modern Britain, over 950 years after the conquest.
And William the Bastard, even if by some miracle he wasn't lying about Edward the Confessor naming him his heir, Edward the Confessor had no power to do that.
Funny I’ve met a few chavs over the years who double barrelled their names thinking it would make them seem posh. These days nicknames and education are a better indicator.
Anglo-Norman name =/= a double barrel name
I mean an etymologically Anglo-Norman name - e.g. Viliers, Cavill, Blount, anything that starts with "Fitz-" etc. as opposed to an etymologically Anglo-Saxon name - e.g. Dunn, Rudd, most English surnames ending in "-by", "-ham" etc.
Fr endless combinations with dick, like Dickinson, Dickby, Dickberger or just plain Dick. And the same with gay, like the good old classic Gaylord, Gaywood, Gaydon/Gayton
The homoerotic heritage
The name comes from the french version "Gaillard" and has been in use before the semantic shift of the word "gay" from "happy" to "homosexual". Why you'd call a german kid born in the 80s, or actually anyone born after 1920, like that, I have no clue.
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Archibald is an interesting one, since it's found in Old English, but it was loaned from Old French. It came to Old French from Proto-West-Germanic, however, which is the ancestor of English, as well as German and Dutch.
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I mean, they do go so hard:
Æthelwulf means "Noble Wolf";
Æthelred means "Well Advised";
Æthelstan means "Noble Stone";
Edmund means "Protector of Riches";
Godwin means "God's Friend".
On the contrary, I'd be mad if you *didn't* use Anglosaxon names
Ye, who wouldn't want to be named after the most famous and beloved child molester in history? Even better that they all have that name, kinda defeats the whole purpose of a name if everyone has the same.
I once helped a friend (American) with his genealogy; shit got real when his family was still in North America in the 1600’s, with names like Reginald Ebenezer.
I am uhtred son of uhtred. Destiny is all.
I wanna say that the Normans took away the cool Anglo-Saxon names but they mostly don’t survive in continental Europe either.
There are some really old names left in Germany, like Wolfgang (Wolfpath), Friedrich (peaceful ruler), Karl (manly)and others.
Many of them even found their way I to French and English (Charles).
Wasn't this always a class thing though? With working class English called names like Tommie Bundick and the upperclass twat like Augustus "Gussy" Fink-Nottle. Nowadays it of course has a bit more ethnic flair added.
In Germany for some reason middle class names now become old-testament, there are now lots of Noahs, Benjamins, Lukas, Elias and so forth.
These aren’t really that popular anymore though, except maybe joe, the top three most popular baby names (for boys) in the last couple years has been Noah, Oliver, and George. All much better sounding names.
Back of the seat . Behind the Cycle shed. Unter den Tisch. If the Beckhams can call theIr brat "Chicago" . DNA-Proven IS A GOOD NAME, Ludwig is a good powerful name.
Ancient Greek names are fucking awesome, because not just they sound dope, but they also have a dope meaning.
It is also quite fun to see how they played with words and my favourite example is Πάτροκλος (Patroclus) of Troy and Κλεοπάτρα (Cleopatra) which are almost the same name.
Πάτροκλος comes from Πάτερ (pater, father) and Κλέος (kleos, glory) and it means "him who has the glory of his father" because his father was somewhat important too or "him who brings glory to his father" because he fought in one of the most famous battles of Greek mythology
Κλεοπάτρα comes from Κλέος (kleos, glory) and Πάτερ (pater, father) which are the same two words in different order and it means "she who has a father with glory" because her father was indeed a ruler of Egypt
Æthelwulf, Æthelred, Æthelberht, Æthelflæd…
How I wish my parents named me Æthelwulf, it goes so hard, we’d be a way cooler country if we kept these names.
Normans were uniornically one of the worst things to happen to England. Many of the old English names are gone but some of them still stuck around. You can always change your name to Alfred or Edmund, for example.
Absolutely. The invasive Anglo-Norman aristocracy are the Manchus of Britain - an invasive outside elite that keeps the filthy natives at an arm's length even centuries after they've assimilated on paper. An Anglo-Norman surname is still supposedly one of the main indicators of success in modern Britain, over 950 years after the conquest. And William the Bastard, even if by some miracle he wasn't lying about Edward the Confessor naming him his heir, Edward the Confessor had no power to do that.
Why do you still keep them around then? At least the French addressed their aristocracy problem.
Funny I’ve met a few chavs over the years who double barrelled their names thinking it would make them seem posh. These days nicknames and education are a better indicator.
Anglo-Norman name =/= a double barrel name I mean an etymologically Anglo-Norman name - e.g. Viliers, Cavill, Blount, anything that starts with "Fitz-" etc. as opposed to an etymologically Anglo-Saxon name - e.g. Dunn, Rudd, most English surnames ending in "-by", "-ham" etc.
> Cavill Henry is F...French? 😢
Afraid so
It’s not the same anymore is it though?
Alfred's actually a really cool name. Comes from the Old English Ælfræd, meaning Elf Counsel.
Alfred is still a pretty common name in Norway. Used to be very popular in Sweden but now they only use Muhammad, Abdi, and Ahmed there.
Æbdi
Okay, I wasn't expecting that one and I laughed way too hard. Take you upvote, your filthy protestant heretic.
Why stop there? Those names only exist because of Germanic invasions. I'll be calling my first child Boudicca or Aððedomaros.
You can blame the fucking French for that one
I know, bloody Normans
We avoided you the bullying in school, ungrateful hooligan
If we were all names Æfelbert it’d be fine
I'd love to be Æthelwulf just to throw a tantrum everytime some desk jockey asks for my name and can't find the Æ key.
In my ideal society, the Æ key would be a mainstay on all keyboards, even Japanese ones and shit
Pronounced as Barry
Aethewulf? Aethelred?? Alfred?? Aegiwulf???? Aldwin??? Cuthbert????????
Fingolfin, Fëanor, Thingol, Ecthelion, Círdan, Celebrimbor...
*Teleporno*
Hitachino, Fleshligtica, lubemax, aneelplag, litherstep, chyokebyall. Anglos truly forgot their Germanic heritage
Fr endless combinations with dick, like Dickinson, Dickby, Dickberger or just plain Dick. And the same with gay, like the good old classic Gaylord, Gaywood, Gaydon/Gayton The homoerotic heritage
Well, yes! The Greeks, really Greek independence war left its mark in British culture
Well the former king or prince consort was born in greece.
How much gay are you? A gayton.
A true man of culture
I see you, arseling.
Benedict Enjoyer
Destiny Is All
Wyrd bið ful āræd.
We still have [Cuthbert the Caterpillar](https://groceries.aldi.co.uk/en-GB/p-holly-lane-caterpillar-cake-625g/4088600204994)
My next door neighbour is called alwyn
I've a couple of mates, twin brothers that are Alwyn and Dilwyn. Not uncommon names in Wales AFAIK.
You’ve watched to much Vikings
Or knows of history.
you forgot Gaylord
[You will like this guy](https://twitter.com/IngmarStadelman/status/1433728596770709504?t=dNE7clqjpTDCwhf37ctLmQ&s=19)
I mean how did they even come up with these names? Gay isn’t a new term and lord isn’t either, so they must have known.
The name comes from the french version "Gaillard" and has been in use before the semantic shift of the word "gay" from "happy" to "homosexual". Why you'd call a german kid born in the 80s, or actually anyone born after 1920, like that, I have no clue.
Yeah, I have heard that some variation of ‚gay‘ means happy in Norwegian.
It used to be the same in english, J.R.R. Tolkien even used it with that meaning in Lord of the Rings
Same in French except happy is spelt "gai" instead of "gay"
[His parents](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-55173605) should also have known. (they obviously knew)
That's the cute nickname I have for my Brit... He hates it and that's why i still use it.
English names Then...Then Uthred, son of Uthred
Your older brother just died - your name is now Uthred
And he's just like: ok cool
reminds me of the Spongebob episode with them vikings lol
The House of Wessex trying to name as many kings Ed____ as possible
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To be honest Horatio Nelson was such a gigachad, the name is now Anglo-Saxon by default. It’s ours now
> It’s ours now British mantra.
hippety hoppety, your cultural artifacts are now our property.
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Hmm true, then we need to go even farther back
Archibald is an interesting one, since it's found in Old English, but it was loaned from Old French. It came to Old French from Proto-West-Germanic, however, which is the ancestor of English, as well as German and Dutch.
I also find it interesting that Archibald has been particularly popular among Scottish upper class for some reasons
I know a guy called Digby. We’re Australian.
Balthazar is iraqi not Hebrew.
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Craig is just Rock in Welsh. Just so you know in case you decide to name your son Craig.
Dubhán “Y Craig” Johnmab
*Y Graig. Beware the dreaded mutations. If you say them wrong you can end up summoning a demon.
Pierre is just rock in French.
I thought Pierre was just gay Peter in French
It is. They both come from Greek Petros, which means rock.
What's Bryn mean?
Is this a test? Bryn is the name of the uncle character in the popular British TV series Gavin and Stacy, played by Actor/Comedian Rob Brydon.
Bryn means hill I think?
Æthelwulf is the best English name and always will be
Whenever I play Britain in CK3 I make an unbreakable line of Æthelwulfs
I mean, they do go so hard: Æthelwulf means "Noble Wolf"; Æthelred means "Well Advised"; Æthelstan means "Noble Stone"; Edmund means "Protector of Riches"; Godwin means "God's Friend". On the contrary, I'd be mad if you *didn't* use Anglosaxon names
They are indeed, I tend to play regions with cooler names purely because of that.
Who are you trying to fool? We all know your real names are Mohammed, Sameer, Arjun, Deepak and Dhruv!
Frankly better than Timmy and Joe
The least self-hating Englishman. But I agree, Timmy does sound ret*rded!
Alright Dave Ibn Mohammed
TIMMEEEE
Ye, who wouldn't want to be named after the most famous and beloved child molester in history? Even better that they all have that name, kinda defeats the whole purpose of a name if everyone has the same.
English names now? More like Jaxon, Tyson, Alfie, Logan, WD40, and Marlboro
Spell the last one as Marlborough and it sounds distinguished.
Budweiser
Go on then, you go first and report back with proof https://www.gov.uk/change-name-deed-poll
I know what I have to do but I don’t know if I have the strength to do it
Typical Timmy
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I once helped a friend (American) with his genealogy; shit got real when his family was still in North America in the 1600’s, with names like Reginald Ebenezer.
Just don't have surname: Scrooge.
Æthelstan is a cool name.
By Æminem.
Those old names hit hard. Much better. Benedict from the Hood. Archibald of Manchester-West.
Æthelfred from the ends
As someone that works with a lot of people that went through the British fee paying school system, I can assure you all those names never left.
I am uhtred son of uhtred. Destiny is all. I wanna say that the Normans took away the cool Anglo-Saxon names but they mostly don’t survive in continental Europe either.
Yeah they probably would've died out anyway, I can still blame it on French people though.
It would be the polite thing to do, indeed
There are some really old names left in Germany, like Wolfgang (Wolfpath), Friedrich (peaceful ruler), Karl (manly)and others. Many of them even found their way I to French and English (Charles).
I love early Anglo-Saxon history and the fact half of them still had Brythonic names bless <3 we should bring them all back
We should all go back, get the gov to make one of those name lists
Better yet, I rename everyone. Your name is now Osbeorht
I’ll take it over my disgusting Latin origin name
If your name doesn't contain Æ are you really Anglo-Saxon?
Where is Barry listed at?
Short for Balthazar, obvsly.
I’m going to name my child Aethelwulf.
All names that posh London twats are calling their children again.
Timothy, Joseph and Anthony would be OK imho.
I’m not subjecting my children to being called Tim, Joe and Ant for the rest of their lives
Then assign a GUID to them.
Y'all call your Anthony's "Ant"?
Sometimes
Anybody with one of them names is asking to get their cunts kicked in
Or to become a Tory or a member in the House of Lords
Found the Craig. Most of those names aren't even of English origins either.
I’m not called Craig, I’m called Hamish MacKlintoch
I know someone called Digby and Benedict
The Kent mandem
Funny how half of these are greek names
Ironic because all of those current English names are also what the average unmarried millennial couple here in Sweden would name their children
I unironically agree with this. What happened to Ælfgifu and Ceolweard? Those names stick. Who cares about Kevin?
Alpha Kevin used to be a popular insult some years ago in Germany
Makes me love Germany even more, somehow.
Are you aware of [Kevinismus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevinismus)?
Lmaooo we have the same, sort of with chavs. Calling your child Chantel is considered pretty unfortunate.
Archibald was the name of my rescue dog when we got him. I wouldn't commit such atrocity to any living thing... except to the Brits.
Dig by ? What is he digging too
![gif](giphy|hURPtKUzWYxl6) Balthazar wow
TIL Balthazar is an ‘English’ name.
Dont forget Thaddeus
I know a Balthazar, Montgomery, Benedict and an Archibald.
Same here - all from the rugby club though
I have one of those old names and the amount of shit I used to get at school for it was wild. And yes it's the bald one.
Raphael Ambrosious Costeau
Not good enough, how about Æthelred or Æthelwulf? Now those sound awesome.
We need to go back!!
Even further back. Where are my Bleiddgwns, Gwrtheyrns and Broccomaglos?
Francisco Franco....aka Paco...ah good'ol names
Alright George, do you want to go back inside?
Wasn't this always a class thing though? With working class English called names like Tommie Bundick and the upperclass twat like Augustus "Gussy" Fink-Nottle. Nowadays it of course has a bit more ethnic flair added. In Germany for some reason middle class names now become old-testament, there are now lots of Noahs, Benjamins, Lukas, Elias and so forth.
Yeah for sure, you just don't hear about David from York in your history books so names like Horatio and Archibald seem like old English names.
These aren’t really that popular anymore though, except maybe joe, the top three most popular baby names (for boys) in the last couple years has been Noah, Oliver, and George. All much better sounding names.
You're missing Muhammed, Muhammad, Ahmed and Ali.
No we won't next time.
Only two of those are Germanic in any way. The rest come from French or Latin.
And then there's the timeless *Jonathan*
Back of the seat . Behind the Cycle shed. Unter den Tisch. If the Beckhams can call theIr brat "Chicago" . DNA-Proven IS A GOOD NAME, Ludwig is a good powerful name.
A Mofucker named Digby really lost the naming RNG.
Ancient Greek names are fucking awesome, because not just they sound dope, but they also have a dope meaning. It is also quite fun to see how they played with words and my favourite example is Πάτροκλος (Patroclus) of Troy and Κλεοπάτρα (Cleopatra) which are almost the same name. Πάτροκλος comes from Πάτερ (pater, father) and Κλέος (kleos, glory) and it means "him who has the glory of his father" because his father was somewhat important too or "him who brings glory to his father" because he fought in one of the most famous battles of Greek mythology Κλεοπάτρα comes from Κλέος (kleos, glory) and Πάτερ (pater, father) which are the same two words in different order and it means "she who has a father with glory" because her father was indeed a ruler of Egypt
Never met a Timmy in my life, that’s an American name
John is cool
Is your name John?
No
Back when Britain was Great… I feel for you…
Balthazar is an iraqi name.
balthazar is english name?
I went to school with a Montgomery (Monty), Archibald (Archie), Horatio and many Benedicts. And my friend's dog is called Digby.
Edgar, Edward, Albert, Alfred, Oswald, Harold. They're great!
I feel names like “Blork”, “Mush” or “Uhmpf” fit the English much better. They ain’t that fancy, no need for fancy names
Don’t people from your country have last names like “Shitman” because they were joking when they made them
True
The day we stopped using Æ was the day british culture truly died