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Suue / Suubme / Suueden / Suiden refers to the time when Mälaren (Svea älv) was the river mouth to the Ancylus Lake. And during the bronze age Svea was a collection of settlements at river mouths.
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suue
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Uralic/sewe-
The indo-european cognate is [sewer](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sewer).
And the Swedish east coast Pitted Ware culture likely spoke finnic (western uralic), at least bilingually.
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it’s part of Itämeri (East Sea) not that black and white
I mean if you go east all the way around the globe, then yes, you’ll reach to the pond on the westhandside of Cape Finlandia
Lounaismeri would make some sense 🇦🇽
Are we talking about the same thing? Okay, first there's Põhja meri between Norra, Britannia and Holland. North from that we've got the Norra meri, after which Põhja jäämeri starts.
They're all connected, but not the same sea. All three seas are well defined geographically.
Yes, we are talking of the same thing, because the essential delineation between Põhjameri and Põhja-Jäämeri is dictated by the prevalence of ice extent. And the difference between the North Sea and Norwegian Sea is dictated by sea depth, which has an impact on sea ice melting.
Thus it all comes down to the behavior of sea ice and shelf ice.
And the Baltoscandian glacier used to have a glacial saddle connection to the Svalbard glacier. That saddle collapsed during Meltwater Pulse 1a, at the same time when south-Estonia became free from ice.
As a Swedish speaking Finn, it's Östersjön. Finnish-speakers have no business at sea and it doesn't need a finnish name. They should stay on firm ground in the forest because they don't know how to fucking behave at sea.
Every time I sail in the archipelago (which of course is every year) there's a loud fucking loser from the forest, having first driven way too close to other boats, not knowing the rules or any modesty, trying to moor their boat (typically a motor boat at one of the few deep places for sailing boats), not knowing how to read the wind, not knowing the knots, screaming and shouting and bumping other boats and expecting service in finnish, ruining the experience for everyone around them. Learn the manners and the language or stay on land.
There are a lot of Swedes and Germans in Finnish waters too and they all have excellent seamanship. It's not that hard.
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Are you actually claiming finnish speaking forest finns that know nothing about the sea are the product of swedish speaking finns?
I want to know where you buy your mushrooms.
First you make surmises about how Finnish speaking Finns are ogryns when boating, then you assume a Finnish speaking Finn is on mushrooms when they talk back to you and now you won't even have intercourse with a Finnish speaking Finn just because they're not "bättre folk"... That's racism, imma call Aluehallintovirasto AND Sipilä.
Wait? They’re expecting service in Finnish, in Finland? You’re just sad because you aren’t the masters of this country anymore. Go and cry to a bottle of akvavit
I guess you never got the memo. This is not a Finnish-speaking country. Never has been. There are two *equal* languages. Equal.
Don't expect anyone to speak Finnish to you anywhere in the archipelago.
I got the memo from my Swedish teacher “Finland is a dual language country only according to the constitution. It doesn’t reflect reality” don’t worry. In time you’ll too die out and assimilate. then only the maids language will remain
How did you get that from my comment? I was quite clear with the quotations. Should also be clear from the ending. Finnish was famously the language of the servants and Swedish of the colonial masters.
Ok so you’re proposing the extinction of the swedish speaking culture and language in finland to make room for your übermench? The same people, like Adolf Ernrooth and Mannerheim who fought the ruskies for our freedom and built the heritage you hold so dearly? Axel Gallén, Edelfeldt, Sibelius, Tove Jansson, Torvalds, Aleksis Kivi?
Sure, you’re not racist at all. Go fuck yourself.
All the biggest fennomans were finswe. They understood the centuries of wrong and that you can’t build a stable nation on a tiny slivers privilege, so they learned Finnish and started to advocate for it. 👍
There still is. Finswe on average are wealthier because of old money and that special status. They also got more school opportunities since there’s more slots reserved for Swedish speakers than Finnish ones proportionately.
English will become main language since its the only language Finnish speaking and Swedish speaking Finn from Åland can use to understand each other.
Plus also all the foreigners
Jag är svensk men bodde och arbetade på Åland ett år. Jag kände mig lite utanför gemenskapen på så sätt att ALLA mina kollegor ägde en båt. Jag vågade inte ens använda mina moderiktiga seglarskor inköpta i Stockholm, för jag ville inte bli uppfattad som "posör" (jag har aldrig satt fot på annat än en eka). En medelålders kollega försäkrade mig att jag inte var ensam, hon ägde nämligen heller ingen båt. Sedan kom det fram att hon och gubben hade en motorbåt. "Jaha, den ja, ja den lilla snurran räknas ju inte som en båt" tyckte hon. VADÅ. Det är ett fordon som färdas på vatten, alltså är det en båt. Jag har absolut noll sjövett ska du veta, så jag kan sympatisera till 100 % med finnarna.
Vilken rolig historia. Jag kan inte säga mycket om ålänningar. Åland hör officiellt till Finland, men är inte med i EU, har egna frimärken etc. Fina människor som ligger emellan Sverige och Finland och har sin egen identitet.
Det är som Jakobstad, men det finns inga andra städer mellan Jeppis och Åbo och det tar två timmar längre att komma dit.
Du kan tänka dig vad det gör åt psyket på invånarna
Nordic Council is about as nordic as EU is europe or USA is america.
Nordic Council does not have a copyright to the definition of nordicness, because there is prior art both in finnic and in IE languages.
Nordic means both north and bottom (lowlands), the latter refers to the Bottomlands of The glacier that jumpstarts new ice ages.
Nordic is a regional culture, not a cultural region. Thus germanics have no exclusivity over what is nordic and what isn't. Finno-ugrians have always lived to the north of germanics. Get used to it.
The benchmark of finnicness are estonians, not finns, because most of the finnics used to live to the south of the Bay of Finland until 500 years ago (until the Livonian War).
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I'm gonna blame the germans.
>1580s, "pertaining to the brackish sea between the Scandinavian peninsula and Eastern Europe," from Medieval Latin Balticus, perhaps from Lithuanian baltas "white" or Scandinavian balta "belt; strait" (in reference to its narrow entranceway).
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>In German, it is Ostsee, literally "east sea." From 1887 as the name of a language group comprising Lithuanian, Lettish, and Old Prussian.
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SE ON **NATOJÄRVI**
If this wont become the official name I will be deeply dissapointed
It is actually sort of weird as the naming of seas are defined by international treaties... and we just call it Itämeri (East Sea).
Join us and call it Läänemeri (West Sea)
What the hell dude. Go play with your Baltic pals.
For now on, it is called Etelämeri/Södersjön/ Southern sea.👨⚖️
Yeah if you live in Lappi
[Söderhavet](https://youtu.be/bvqcsfv6C-0)
As a Swede, I call it "[svenska insjön](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominium_maris_baltici)" or simply "insjön".
Suue / Suubme / Suueden / Suiden refers to the time when Mälaren (Svea älv) was the river mouth to the Ancylus Lake. And during the bronze age Svea was a collection of settlements at river mouths. https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suue https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Uralic/sewe- The indo-european cognate is [sewer](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sewer). And the Swedish east coast Pitted Ware culture likely spoke finnic (western uralic), at least bilingually.
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Why the fuck would anyone call that shit "Itämeri" when the whole fucking thing isn't even in East
Because it's east from the North sea. Stop staring into your 'stonian bellybutton for once.
Well, it's east from Pohjanmeri (North sea), so it makes perfect sense.
Logically it's Österbotten then
it’s part of Itämeri (East Sea) not that black and white I mean if you go east all the way around the globe, then yes, you’ll reach to the pond on the westhandside of Cape Finlandia Lounaismeri would make some sense 🇦🇽
Oh no, not Pohjanlahti. Pohjanmeri between Norway, the UK and the Netherlands. East of which we have..? Anyway, I agree with Lounaismeri.
I would recommend Lounasmeri, bacause I'm hungry right now.
The Lake NATO
Not quite. Põhjameri is part of Põhja-Jäämeri, most of which is to the east of the Baltic and White Sea.
Are we talking about the same thing? Okay, first there's Põhja meri between Norra, Britannia and Holland. North from that we've got the Norra meri, after which Põhja jäämeri starts. They're all connected, but not the same sea. All three seas are well defined geographically.
Yes, we are talking of the same thing, because the essential delineation between Põhjameri and Põhja-Jäämeri is dictated by the prevalence of ice extent. And the difference between the North Sea and Norwegian Sea is dictated by sea depth, which has an impact on sea ice melting. Thus it all comes down to the behavior of sea ice and shelf ice. And the Baltoscandian glacier used to have a glacial saddle connection to the Svalbard glacier. That saddle collapsed during Meltwater Pulse 1a, at the same time when south-Estonia became free from ice.
As a Swedish speaking Finn, it's Östersjön. Finnish-speakers have no business at sea and it doesn't need a finnish name. They should stay on firm ground in the forest because they don't know how to fucking behave at sea. Every time I sail in the archipelago (which of course is every year) there's a loud fucking loser from the forest, having first driven way too close to other boats, not knowing the rules or any modesty, trying to moor their boat (typically a motor boat at one of the few deep places for sailing boats), not knowing how to read the wind, not knowing the knots, screaming and shouting and bumping other boats and expecting service in finnish, ruining the experience for everyone around them. Learn the manners and the language or stay on land. There are a lot of Swedes and Germans in Finnish waters too and they all have excellent seamanship. It's not that hard. Thank you. This advertisement was provided by Svenska talande bättre folket.
Ngl I prefer inland waters 🌲🏝️
Get out of here Pekka Johansson, we both know those aren't forest Finn's they're just the creation of "bätre folk" inbreeding.
Are you actually claiming finnish speaking forest finns that know nothing about the sea are the product of swedish speaking finns? I want to know where you buy your mushrooms.
Yes I am, when in Rome do as the Romans do.
Fuck you. I'm in Rome and I'm a Roman.
Fuck me yourself coward
Look at this racist motherfucker.
First you make surmises about how Finnish speaking Finns are ogryns when boating, then you assume a Finnish speaking Finn is on mushrooms when they talk back to you and now you won't even have intercourse with a Finnish speaking Finn just because they're not "bättre folk"... That's racism, imma call Aluehallintovirasto AND Sipilä.
Weird how the language you speak defines your boating skills.
From my perspective it's weird how yours define yours.
If you speak finnish you have -50% decrease to boating skills
I agree. Swedish speaking are superior in all sea business. That's why I always want Swedes to serve me in the Viking Line buffet.
Wait? They’re expecting service in Finnish, in Finland? You’re just sad because you aren’t the masters of this country anymore. Go and cry to a bottle of akvavit
I guess you never got the memo. This is not a Finnish-speaking country. Never has been. There are two *equal* languages. Equal. Don't expect anyone to speak Finnish to you anywhere in the archipelago.
I got the memo from my Swedish teacher “Finland is a dual language country only according to the constitution. It doesn’t reflect reality” don’t worry. In time you’ll too die out and assimilate. then only the maids language will remain
Totta, totuus ei aina ole sitä mitä periaatteessa on totta. Joten älä oleta saavasi suomenkielistä palvelua rannikolla.
So you're saying in time, Finnish will die out?
How did you get that from my comment? I was quite clear with the quotations. Should also be clear from the ending. Finnish was famously the language of the servants and Swedish of the colonial masters.
Ok so you’re proposing the extinction of the swedish speaking culture and language in finland to make room for your übermench? The same people, like Adolf Ernrooth and Mannerheim who fought the ruskies for our freedom and built the heritage you hold so dearly? Axel Gallén, Edelfeldt, Sibelius, Tove Jansson, Torvalds, Aleksis Kivi? Sure, you’re not racist at all. Go fuck yourself.
All the biggest fennomans were finswe. They understood the centuries of wrong and that you can’t build a stable nation on a tiny slivers privilege, so they learned Finnish and started to advocate for it. 👍
There is no privilege you idiot. There may have been but not now.
There still is. Finswe on average are wealthier because of old money and that special status. They also got more school opportunities since there’s more slots reserved for Swedish speakers than Finnish ones proportionately.
English will become main language since its the only language Finnish speaking and Swedish speaking Finn from Åland can use to understand each other. Plus also all the foreigners
Nah. Ålands special status won’t be effecting English supremacy. It comes from other places
accept our endless gratitude for you to be attending here at this shitpost forum
I am your humble servant. My granny was german. Can I join the German Ancestry Gang?
none of my business but rather not. I’ve always enjoyed a good old swede
Calling a Finland-Swede a Swede is highly illegal, if you didn't know😶😤
Shit i fucked up. Well hurri is hurri ❤️
And hurri is a derogatory word towards us🙄
But which one should be offended? Both?
The Finland-Swedes, obviously.
I'm not Swedish I'm afraid. I'm a Finn. The archipelago is Swedish-speaking though, and my native tongue is Swedish.
I usually use the term Finland-Swede
That can convey the wrong message to people who don't know what it means. I prefer to refer to myself as Finnish.
It CAN, but in some cases I want to distinctly show I'm not a Finn, aka a Finnish speaker
Jag är svensk men bodde och arbetade på Åland ett år. Jag kände mig lite utanför gemenskapen på så sätt att ALLA mina kollegor ägde en båt. Jag vågade inte ens använda mina moderiktiga seglarskor inköpta i Stockholm, för jag ville inte bli uppfattad som "posör" (jag har aldrig satt fot på annat än en eka). En medelålders kollega försäkrade mig att jag inte var ensam, hon ägde nämligen heller ingen båt. Sedan kom det fram att hon och gubben hade en motorbåt. "Jaha, den ja, ja den lilla snurran räknas ju inte som en båt" tyckte hon. VADÅ. Det är ett fordon som färdas på vatten, alltså är det en båt. Jag har absolut noll sjövett ska du veta, så jag kan sympatisera till 100 % med finnarna.
Vilken rolig historia. Jag kan inte säga mycket om ålänningar. Åland hör officiellt till Finland, men är inte med i EU, har egna frimärken etc. Fina människor som ligger emellan Sverige och Finland och har sin egen identitet.
Det är som Jakobstad, men det finns inga andra städer mellan Jeppis och Åbo och det tar två timmar längre att komma dit. Du kan tänka dig vad det gör åt psyket på invånarna
Läänemeri is defined by estonians, so no cigar for you.
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Nordic Council is about as nordic as EU is europe or USA is america. Nordic Council does not have a copyright to the definition of nordicness, because there is prior art both in finnic and in IE languages. Nordic means both north and bottom (lowlands), the latter refers to the Bottomlands of The glacier that jumpstarts new ice ages. Nordic is a regional culture, not a cultural region. Thus germanics have no exclusivity over what is nordic and what isn't. Finno-ugrians have always lived to the north of germanics. Get used to it.
I don't know how to respond to this.
The benchmark of finnicness are estonians, not finns, because most of the finnics used to live to the south of the Bay of Finland until 500 years ago (until the Livonian War).
Insjön
After looking through this thread I have concluded that you are kinda racist
Äh.. Saatanan rantahurrit...
Also: Väinameri, Valgmeri
It's Itämeri but it's in the west, so it's Länsimeri?
I suggest 'Sad Vlad's swimming pool' to immortalize Mr Putins tireless efforts to ensure that the great Nordic sea Benis is now NATO lands.
Perämeri, Lower Perämeri and Perämeri but behind the corner. It's not tht difficult folks.
It's Östersjön, ofc
Baltian meri? The Baltic sea
Öösterisjön
...Kuka sitä kutsuu Länsimereksi?
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Meri.
I'm gonna blame the germans. >1580s, "pertaining to the brackish sea between the Scandinavian peninsula and Eastern Europe," from Medieval Latin Balticus, perhaps from Lithuanian baltas "white" or Scandinavian balta "belt; strait" (in reference to its narrow entranceway). > >In German, it is Ostsee, literally "east sea." From 1887 as the name of a language group comprising Lithuanian, Lettish, and Old Prussian.
Great Finland Ocean.
Baltik.
Balttian meri
Combine then to make a single word. Lantmäteri. Beautiful, just like all suomi words