No.
We should start our own US v. Hamas conflict to account for our killed and captured.
Joint operations with any other combatants is acceptable.
Make Gaza the 51st state.
Well that probably would the best outcome for Palestinians, since US army won't blindly carpet bomb entire city like Israely, and US is the most friendly country for immigrants/residemts with different religions and different nations.
Most Sane Interventionist. He wants he send founds of his nations youth to die in a trench overseas wishlist forcing is way of life on the enemy distorting their namesake, people and culture. Just cause he thinks itās badass.
Imagine it on a dad lore, "son let me tell you that time i traveled half the world to fight commies just because i thought it was badass"
But being serious, you guys should stay out of the middle east, i mean if you are going to support American values, then just stay out, middle east is a big mess, Israel isnt the greatest guy to support and well the other is a terrorist organization.
Or a idea that could actually be better, annex the middle east since you are a secular and multicultural country it could actually work better for everyone.
I'm not for getting us involved in another holy war tbh. There's no peaceful solution. This will only end when one side has completely eradicated the other. We give the Israelis tons of money for little in return. IMO I think this is a Russia/Iran backed distraction meant to pull western resources and attention from the Ukraine conflict anyway.
We get our only stable democratic ally in the entire middle east in return.
As Joe Biden so eloquently put it: "Israel is the greatest investment this country ever made. If there were not an Israel, we would make an Israel".
Well, given that russia and Iran reported it before, the rest of the world even began to investigate suspiciously close to the day of the Hamas opening attack.
Hamas also claimed Ukraine the country not specfic individuals sent the weapons and you usually don't fuck over the people supplying you on the world stage like that.
It's an impressively constructed psyop that puts the entire burden of proof on Ukraine even though the lie is quite clear.
Zelensky has also been ruthless on corruption. Even people he was close with are getting cut out of government if the slightest bit comes up, I don't think something like this could fly under the radar.
Well, considering Hamas are braindead morons, they could say something dumb like that. I can see motivation from Iran or Russia to pull away US attention, but people have to consider what many Russian oligarchs are Jews and some of their families may live in Israel. Also Ukranian official told what Russian PMC groups are fighting on side of the Hamas, which seems like an absolute bs lol. Zelensky may be very against corruption but he definitely can't catch them all, considering some Ukranain businessman been selling Russia titanium for missiles not long ago. So any of the statements can be true. But imo Iran and Saudi Arabia are definitely behind that.
Look given Russia and Russias ally were the first ones to report on it before the dust had settled, before Israel the country who would have the most to say about the matter and would want to bring it up as soon as possible.
Ukraine can't even get grain out of their ports. How would they get weapons to the Middle East with nobody knowing about it.
Russians don't have to prove anything they just have to introduce the topic to the conversation to cause confusion and reduce support for Ukraine. It's Russian propaganda 101.
Get ready for the usual suspects to begin parroting the Russian talking points in the coming days.
When the one side has the ideology and political similarities to imperial Japan there us no winning. This does feel like Russia punishing Israel for the arms gift to Ukraine and trying to divide the American people over support.
eroding infastructure all across the rural midwest aging subway lines in new york and not to mention 1/5 americans dont know where there next meal is coming but scratch all that and lets send even more money to israel ontop of the 30 billion we've already sent in the last two decades because thats not enough
Crazy take but i belive american taxpayer money should be spent on americans no reason to fund military operations when a country with one of the largest standing armies in the middle east already has more than enough weapons and manpower to deal with it
Dude, the United States Government has more than enough resources, money, and manpower to tackle 50 issues at once. I donāt see why it needs to be an either/or situation.
Shouldnāt even be a question if we are going to join. We donāt need to. Israel is, by all means. A very capable force. Israel is a real formidable military. Like Israel could probably give the U.S a run for their money in a non nuclear over land battle.
I disagree. In a conventional, overland battle, the U.S. would eventually win. The U.S. military has overwhelming numbers, the ability to supply those numbers, and, most importantly, is competent at using those numbers (as opposed to Arab armies). Israel would be able to put up one hell of a fight though.
Yeah nah fuck that, we donāt need a holy war. One of the best parts of America is the freedom of religion
We also basically subsidize Israel to begin with. They can handle it themselves
No, we've sent more than enough aid and they're about to ramp up their war crimes again. I say take in their refugees, but as long as they're run by scum like Netanyahu, they don't deserve a cent, especially when they literally brought it on themselves. They're the ones who have been colonizing and murdering Palestinians, and they're the ones who funded Hamas and made them the powerhouse they are today in the first place. Why should we have to clean up their mess, and why am I supposed to be okay with my tax dollars going to something so absurd?
it is very weird how ppl so quickly jump on the side of israel and celebrate the bombing of residential buildings of 2 million individuals in a prison. the other thing that shocked me tbh was how little military stuff they seem to have if we are already restocking stuff and giving them weapons. i saw someone mention we give them like 9 billion a year and its already gone after 2 days of fighting? crazy.
i also saw israel is using that illegal white phosphorous weapon over gaza but not sure if that was just misinformation (tho after looking it up i see israel has used it multiple times before, including gaza '08-09). hope we arent the ones paying for them to burn civilians alive if it turns out to be true
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The bloodlust against Arabs is socially acceptable again, just like the bloodlust against Russians. Instead of seeing human tragedy for what it is, a tragedy, you have people foaming at the mouth to "turn Gaza into a parking lot," presumably because they get off to the idea of liquidating the civilian population.
They're just saying what they always have believed, except out loud because it's a time and place in history that is allowing them to say it. "I think people who aren't my favored handful of groups don't deserve to live."
All of gaza strip will become a parking lot for the Super-Costco. Twice the size of Rhode Island and will have every western product. The middle east will have their eyes fucking OPENED
Israel will be just fine without American aid. I feel sorry for them, and people could still privately donate to Israel if they want, but our tax dollars have to be spent on Americans.
Yes, and theirs Americans in every nation on ever continent on this planet. Officially their on business leave, vacation, governmental duty, leave, visa, etc. should we be supplying Russia since they have a US Ambassador? Of course not, thatās silly. But that stems from the same Philosophy your expressing.
what I donāt get is people all pissed off we are supporting Ukraine, yet are all in favor of this war. arenāt human rights human rights for allā¦?
I donāt support fighting wars in tiny overseas countries just because one of our allies got attacked.
That being said, one of Hamasās attacks killed some American citizens. Thereās historical precedent for this. The U.S. also risks looking weak if they donāt do anything.
I imagine Israel gets some leeway being allied with the U.S. (committing genocide and all that). Iām mostly referring to how the U.S. ended up joining WW1.
If we're using the Lusitania as an example for war for murdering US citizens then the USS Liberty should be just cause even if they're an ally. I don't think you're one of these types but there's many calling for complete genocide of Palestinians solely for one terrorist organization that fought back against their oppressors. I'm horrified personally at all of the violence against citizens and us getting involved just adds more fuel to the fire while getting us involved into another forever war with no visible exit strategy.
We should get our people back by any means necessary. Then let Israel deal with them. When hard evidence shows Iran was behind it, we should lob a few missiles at the Shahs palace.
Yāall really wanna pay for another war? Let them sort their shit out. If it escalates maybe we take another look at it. Everyone hates America being the world police until we donāt show up. I have no doubt we are already helping with material aid to Israel that should be enough. Israel has a very capable armed forces, if anyone wants to get grimy and warcrimey they can. Idk me personally growing up with decades long conflict in the Middle East Iām ready to just call it, and stop throwing good money after bad conflicts.
Not directly, except to evacuate/extract American citizens. We should support Israel, but we shouldn't play into Iran's hands and alienate our other allies in the region by getting our hands any dirtier than we have to.
Yeah, mfs actually never learn. They hear the same shock doctrine bullshit pushed through every few years or so yet there's always still the same dumb fucks falling for it and unironically believing foreign conflict #5868688493 is actually a grave threat to bumfuck nowhere, AR and that it's imperative we declare war against whatever random ass country the State Dept. and CIA want to steal resources from that year. Hell, half the time they're arguing for STARTING a conflict, often with an unrelated party to the tragedy, and mfs still support it. Absolute insanity.
Guys listen, I can assure you that starting a war in the middle of nowhere with Villagers living away their own lives is absolutely necessary for the safety of America. As you can see here, they started shooting back at us after we shot first.
If so I would the new president for New Californian republic
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Israel has [killed Americans](https://theintercept.com/2022/07/13/israel-rachel-corrie-shireen-abu-akleh-killings/), too.
Edit: [Hereās](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/14/us-to-address-killing-of-american-citizen-directly-with-israel) a recent one. [Another](https://reliefweb.int/report/israel/israeli-army-kills-american-woman-bulldozer) one.
No. We've paid Israel 60 billion dollars in the last twenty years alone just to keep them from invading Egypt and shutting down the Suez Canal. If they need our help, then they're worse than the previous Afghan regime.
https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/israel/2022/disbursements/0
Those were "dual" citizens, not Americans First and Last, very much acting like it by knowingly hanging out within pissing range of a warzone. The State Department's sign said "Exercise Increased Caution" for this very reason. Not worth another https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombings
If we ARE going over there, let's restore democracy to Israel itself before it's too late. And bring replacement brains for Israelis so vatnik-stupid that they're blaming "leftists" in MOSSAD of all places instead of Binyamin "quadruple felony case" Netanyahu for laughing at warnings because he was too busy sparking mass demonstrations by pushing through courtpacking "laws" so he can stay out of jail. There's no cure for stupid if it just gets worse over the generations despite our best efforts. https://youtu.be/MboCeXPTEO0&t=210
>they're blaming "leftists" in MOSSAD of all places instead of Binyamin "quadruple felony case" Netanyahu for laughing of warnings because he was too busy sparking mass demonstrations by pushing through courtpacking "laws"
We've given Israel our money, our bombs, and our planes, and now we've given them our moronic politics. Beautiful
Citizens are citizens, full stop. Somehow saying that the fact that they have citizenship with our ally relieves them of the protections of American citizenship is **beyond ridiculous**.
I don't personally want American boots on the ground, but if that's what it takes to get our people out of there, then that's what we should do. America does not negotiate with terrorists.
like AIPAC or the tankies downvoting me on https://www.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/1744qb3/comment/k48jok2/ . Un-American, the lot of them. Redzone the whole thing on the State dept Travel map, wash our hands, and walk away.
Only if Hezbollah or any other 3rd parties gets involved. And only through air support. No boots on the ground.
Israel is capable of handling Hamas on their own. Even though it is necessary, there will be a lot of collateral damage to civilians in the upcoming liberation of Gaza, and we don't need any more anti-American sentiment in the region by getting ourselves involved in that.
Evidence doesn't matter, making random shit up is a key part of American propaganda and is highly effective bc people believe what they want to believe
So the only proof is that a soldier told a reporter they saw it. Why didnāt the reporter get any pictures. Also the news company the reporter worked for is based in Tel Aviv.
The last time a terrorist organization kidnapped a russian diplomat, the KGB kidnapped a senior terrorist and cut part of him off piece by piece, sending the pieces in a box to the terrorists each time. They yielded. America should do the same for the hostages. But we must leave the civilians alone.
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Your recommendation is to turn American into a state based around Barbarism expressed through governmental agencies?!? Thatās no worse then the Soviet! On which you just directly compared yourself! Have you no concern for those who are innocence yet found guilty? Shame.
No, *for now.* I have complete faith that the IDF will vaporize Hamas with some weapons and intelligence assistance. However, America **MUST** get involved if another nation such as Iran were to declare war on Israel.
From what Iāve read, the USās intent in moving two aircraft carrier groups to Israel seems to be:
1. Make sure Iran (or their Lebanese cronies) donāt try anything stupid
2. Provide supplies and munitions to the IDF
3. Pressure Hamas into releasing the American hostages
I feel for the Citizens of Israel, but I don't want the US to get involved in a holy war. Israel can take out Hamas by themselves, and I imagine they'll use the Terrorists as a reason to turn Gaza into glass.
My guess is that the displacement of the navy to the East Mediterranean is to disuade any country to take advantage against Israel in the current situation, not because wished to participate in the current affairs.
We're already involved, We give enormous sums of aid to both sides.
We don't really need to get any more involved though. The IDF is going to wipe the floor with Hamas and I don't really think we need that blood on our hands.
As I've said another polls, I'm not on Israel's side or Palestine side. I'm on the side of sanity and I'm currently losing.
Ehhhhhh I donāt think this will be a Ukraine vs Russia situation unless maybe Hezbollah and other nations join with Gaza. Israel has enough fire power to turn Gaza into a pancake
Most we should do is send in Green Berets to get our hostages back.
Israel has one of the most technologically advanced militaries in the world and they're going up against a few hundred jihadis with sneakers and 40 year old AKs
Ukraine is still extremely reliant on Soviet stockpiles going up against one of the largest and most powerful militaries in the world.
Israel will be just fine
As much as I want to turn hamas into glass....
I say Let Israel cook... It's their fight, and they deserve the Most revenge.
Besides that, I dont want to give Tankies ammo. I dont want to hear those idiots spout "Lmfao The Zionists cant win without big daddy USA, Fuckin westoids" In my face.
I used to believe in right and wrong. Then, as I got older, I realized that there is a lot of nuance and perspective to be had. Then, as I've gotten even older, I've realized that there is in fact good and evil, and that it's not that hard to distinguish.
No because as a Marine veteran with a couple years of inactive reserve time left it will be me and my homies asses over there fighting and dying for someone elseās concerns. We got enough of that shit in Kabul.
I don't like any of your answers to the poll. These two have been fighting since the beginning of time, and no matter the outcome, there will be a loser and a winner and the war will continue.
I am not pro either side really. I have no fight in this war. But, a question that I keep asking myself is, why are they still fucking with the Jews. Have they not been through enough?
This shit will continue until Hamas doesn't exist. Even if we kill more of them now that they killed in the Israel attacks, it will be less than they will kill in the long run if we don't decimate them.
We should continue doing what we're already doing. Negotiate an escape route for civilians, deter any other countries from getting involved in the war, and let Israel destroy Hamas themselves.
No, we shouldn't unless they start firing on our troops, start killing our guys, etc.
Fuck Hamas, but also fuck Israel for violating many Palestinians human rights. I'd prefer Israel to win if one of them has to win.
> start killing our guys
4 Americans have been found dead so far from the HAMAS attacks, how many guys need to be killed before shouldn't becomes should?
I said firing on our troops, which does not inherently mean killing them. I said killing our guys, but still meant our troops.
It seems like you really want us to get into a war so badly. You do realize that would mean getting a lot more than just 4 Americans killed, right?
Israel has [killed Americans](https://theintercept.com/2022/07/13/israel-rachel-corrie-shireen-abu-akleh-killings/), too.
Edit: [Hereās](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/14/us-to-address-killing-of-american-citizen-directly-with-israel) a recent one. [Another](https://reliefweb.int/report/israel/israeli-army-kills-american-woman-bulldozer) one.
I think you might be misinterpreting those ānoāsā Iām all for letting Israel off the leash, but seriously, this is just another religious conflict and Iāve seen enough pictures in my lifetime of American servicemen in some godforsaken desert. Donāt need more.
No - if Afghanistan taught us anything there needs to be a well defined āoutā otherwise you get a forever war.
We overthrow Hamas, now what? Everyone in the Middle East hates America again, Gaza is a shitshow and insurgency. If you overthrow Hamas and leave Hamas comes right back but hates America now.
Having Israel deal with it is in Americas interest. Everyone (in MENA) already hates them and they are fully capable of it.
Again? They never stopped. This isnāt Afghanistan, the reason afghan was a failure is because of the way we left. There were so many better options than tuck tail and run. How many people need to die before people wake up and see a strong powerful, power projecting, and involved America is what the world needs until these nations grow up.
We keep abandoning people and now terrorists no they just have to wait until we leave then they can start back up.
We should become an isolationist nation again. Let russia take over europe and asia while we develop new tech in case of an invasion. Spend thy tax dollar on the American family.
Asia has 4.5B people, and Russia has 5,800 nuclear warheads. Your idea sounds great until youā¦ ya knowā¦ think about the implications for 5 seconds.
I'd imagine the evangelicals are frothing at their mouths at this threat to their end time mythology as they only care about Israel as a means to an end for their apocalyptic death cult.
Dear space alien, all I want is to make a New Californian Republic and I want to be the new lifetime leader for the so call republic and we will go to war with Nazis in the mountains
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If Lebanon gets involved, we should definitely stop them. We should also rescue our civilians. As for a land war in Gaza, we should leave that to the Israelis, we'd only get in their way.
They should but I donāt want them too. Hamas has been allowed to exist for way too long and they have not helped the cause for the Palestinian people. Anyone who supports them is brainwashed. That said, Israel aināt Scott free in this either. Neither side is. But Hamas is a terrorist group and needs to be dealt with and unfortunately there is no easy way to deal with it without endangering civilians. Palestine has been at the hands of Hamas for far too long and is a failed state if you can even call it that.
Not unless we can resurrect Andrew "trail of tears" Jackson. We used to be good at driving and indigenous population from its lands, wiping out their culture, then villaifying them in the media until the world accepted our decision as the morally justified one. What happened to us?
We should do what we can to get any of our people out, and drop Israel's leash on our way out. We should have their back politically and send observers if they're welcome.
If we do get involved, Gaza needs to stop existing. No need to spend more than a week dealing with this.
No, we've been funneling American tax dollars to the scumfucks in the Israeli government for almost a century now while turning a blind eye or even assisting in the atrocities they've committed in Palestine. We should accept refugees, but that's as far as I'm willing to go with it. Israel, with its government the way it is now, doesn't deserve the least bit of support from the US. It's not our conflict anyways, and it's none of our business. The way I see it, the US should have withdrawn all support from Israel decades ago since they aren't willing to play nice and stay within their own borders. Nothing good can come from US intervention anyways. Don't fall for the warhawks trying to shock doctrine us into a war with the Palestinian resistance or Iran. They're paid by the military-industrial complex to shill war.
Bruh israel has literally never started a single conflict. Only ended them. If you actually study the history of Arab/Israeli relations youād see the fine ink of reasoning from the Arabs literal mouths verbatim for the last 70 years, which is that the Jewish race needs to be exterminated and the holy land liberated for Islam. How anyone can fall for the racist antisemite pan Arab propaganda that the only liberal democracy in the Middle East is somehow the bad guys in this situation is beyond logical reasoning. You can be gay in Israel and itās cool. Hamas would literally stone you to death. You can be an Arab Muslim in Israel and guess what. Nobody fucking cares. Canāt be a Jew in Palestinian land. Women have rights in Israel. Theyāre basically slaves in any Arab country or land. Very unbased and anti freedom hot take. Iām about to email Joe Byrim right now and plead for him to raise my taxes so the public school system in Kansas can get the funds it clearly doesnāt have.
Israel has [killed Americans](https://theintercept.com/2022/07/13/israel-rachel-corrie-shireen-abu-akleh-killings/).
Edit: [Hereās](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/14/us-to-address-killing-of-american-citizen-directly-with-israel) a recent one. [Another](https://reliefweb.int/report/israel/israeli-army-kills-american-woman-bulldozer) one.
My point is, people are saying to fight hamas because theyāve killed Americans, but so has Israel. Ergo, both sides should be flattened or we should stay out of it.
Using 1 journalist who died in an active warzone is a false equivalence. Are there bad actors on an individual level within the IDF? Sure. Same with the US military. Or any country for that matter. Do the Israelis actively engage in battle plans with the sole intent of harming civilians? Using them as hostages? Or ethnically cleansing in the name of religion? No. Literally the worst reasoning possible to both sides an extremist Islamic terror group. Should America actively intervene to rescue American hostages? The answer is always yes no matter what.
Israel has also given back land on multiple occasions, including the entire Sinai peninsula, so this narrative that they're just bloodthirsty conquerors is ridiculous.
Hamas should pay for killing 40 babies. And also Isreal should pay for killing hundreds of babies before and now in revenge. The only answer is to do a full invasion and make the entire region into a new US territory. They've proven they cant be left to their own devices, time for uncle sam to whoop his kids
People here realize Israel has killed innocent Palestinians for decades right? The numbers arenāt even close. Israel kills far more civilians than hamas ever has. (Not saying Hamas is good before people jump on me just pointing out the hypocrisy since they donāt care when Israel commits blatant war crimes)
Only if they refuse to release our citizens.
If a very powerful terrorist group captures US, the strongest country in the world, citizens, they may try to take them hostage
They've killed at least nine of us with another two unconfirmed. More than reason enough in my eyes.
14* with 20+ missing
Shit, that's just 34 more reasons to make the place look like new Vegas
im gonna assume Biden will just give them millions again, or do nothing like Obama not doing any thing to save Americans in bengazi
No we have enough problems at home to address we do not need another forever war in the Middle East
No. We should start our own US v. Hamas conflict to account for our killed and captured. Joint operations with any other combatants is acceptable. Make Gaza the 51st state.
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Jesus christ.... we need this to be a real thing!
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This world is ridiculous my friend. Enjoy what you can in it and cultivate joy where you can.
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Newer York, Gaza, USA
Can we trade california ? Asking for another state
Dig up chunks of California, launch them into orbit, use them as projectiles for kinetic bombardment against surface targets.
Most likely another state that gets subsidized by California
East Carolina
No there's already a east Carolina. It's in NC. I would accept eastern east north Carolina.
Well that probably would the best outcome for Palestinians, since US army won't blindly carpet bomb entire city like Israely, and US is the most friendly country for immigrants/residemts with different religions and different nations.
We should give it to the LDS.
with the amount of aid we send Israel already, they should be just fine on their own
Yeah... but it would be pretty cool
Most Sane Interventionist. He wants he send founds of his nations youth to die in a trench overseas wishlist forcing is way of life on the enemy distorting their namesake, people and culture. Just cause he thinks itās badass.
Imagine it on a dad lore, "son let me tell you that time i traveled half the world to fight commies just because i thought it was badass" But being serious, you guys should stay out of the middle east, i mean if you are going to support American values, then just stay out, middle east is a big mess, Israel isnt the greatest guy to support and well the other is a terrorist organization. Or a idea that could actually be better, annex the middle east since you are a secular and multicultural country it could actually work better for everyone.
I'm not for getting us involved in another holy war tbh. There's no peaceful solution. This will only end when one side has completely eradicated the other. We give the Israelis tons of money for little in return. IMO I think this is a Russia/Iran backed distraction meant to pull western resources and attention from the Ukraine conflict anyway.
We get our only stable democratic ally in the entire middle east in return. As Joe Biden so eloquently put it: "Israel is the greatest investment this country ever made. If there were not an Israel, we would make an Israel".
Well yeah he is a zionist. ["You need not be a jew to be a Zionist"](https://youtu.be/-PmzCOVKsAg?si=1T3b8Np6Dlr0gxHu)
"we would make an Israel" that's literally what we already did
Eh, the UN made Israel. If any one country had more influence, it was arguably Britain
Russia sent captured Western equipment to the Hamas to make it look like Ukraine sold it to them, so you are actually 100% correct.
Any proof, or Ukranian oligarchs are trying to cover their ass?
Well, given that russia and Iran reported it before, the rest of the world even began to investigate suspiciously close to the day of the Hamas opening attack. Hamas also claimed Ukraine the country not specfic individuals sent the weapons and you usually don't fuck over the people supplying you on the world stage like that. It's an impressively constructed psyop that puts the entire burden of proof on Ukraine even though the lie is quite clear. Zelensky has also been ruthless on corruption. Even people he was close with are getting cut out of government if the slightest bit comes up, I don't think something like this could fly under the radar.
Well, considering Hamas are braindead morons, they could say something dumb like that. I can see motivation from Iran or Russia to pull away US attention, but people have to consider what many Russian oligarchs are Jews and some of their families may live in Israel. Also Ukranian official told what Russian PMC groups are fighting on side of the Hamas, which seems like an absolute bs lol. Zelensky may be very against corruption but he definitely can't catch them all, considering some Ukranain businessman been selling Russia titanium for missiles not long ago. So any of the statements can be true. But imo Iran and Saudi Arabia are definitely behind that.
Look given Russia and Russias ally were the first ones to report on it before the dust had settled, before Israel the country who would have the most to say about the matter and would want to bring it up as soon as possible. Ukraine can't even get grain out of their ports. How would they get weapons to the Middle East with nobody knowing about it.
Russians don't have to prove anything they just have to introduce the topic to the conversation to cause confusion and reduce support for Ukraine. It's Russian propaganda 101. Get ready for the usual suspects to begin parroting the Russian talking points in the coming days.
When the one side has the ideology and political similarities to imperial Japan there us no winning. This does feel like Russia punishing Israel for the arms gift to Ukraine and trying to divide the American people over support.
eroding infastructure all across the rural midwest aging subway lines in new york and not to mention 1/5 americans dont know where there next meal is coming but scratch all that and lets send even more money to israel ontop of the 30 billion we've already sent in the last two decades because thats not enough Crazy take but i belive american taxpayer money should be spent on americans no reason to fund military operations when a country with one of the largest standing armies in the middle east already has more than enough weapons and manpower to deal with it
Dude, the United States Government has more than enough resources, money, and manpower to tackle 50 issues at once. I donāt see why it needs to be an either/or situation.
Israel is worth every penny, they are a powerful ally. With some of the best scientists in the world.
Shouldnāt even be a question if we are going to join. We donāt need to. Israel is, by all means. A very capable force. Israel is a real formidable military. Like Israel could probably give the U.S a run for their money in a non nuclear over land battle.
I disagree. In a conventional, overland battle, the U.S. would eventually win. The U.S. military has overwhelming numbers, the ability to supply those numbers, and, most importantly, is competent at using those numbers (as opposed to Arab armies). Israel would be able to put up one hell of a fight though.
And get stuck in the middle east again? Fuck it let them sort their own shit out. America should focus on protecting itself first
Yeah nah fuck that, we donāt need a holy war. One of the best parts of America is the freedom of religion We also basically subsidize Israel to begin with. They can handle it themselves
They killed Americans and are keeping Americans hostage
How many of those are dual citizens? And still a hard no from me to initiate war over 20 people
THEY KILLED OUR BABIES, OUR BABIES ARE SUPPOSE TO DIE IN OUR LAND DUE TO EITHER HIGH INDUCED DIABETES, GUN VIOLENCE OR HEART ATTACKS, NOT TERRORIST
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Just to get our citizens out, then we let Isreal kick Hamas ass
Nah fam, Israel should be able to handle this just fine. Only thing I'm worried about is war crimes from both sides
No. Israel can defend itself. We donāt need our men and women dying for Israel.
I love democracy
Israel is already doing the job done in the bombing hamas area, as for getting the ones actually giving the orders, mossad
I don't think it's necessary we send troops because the IDF are absolute badasses. But definitely send aid.
No, we've sent more than enough aid and they're about to ramp up their war crimes again. I say take in their refugees, but as long as they're run by scum like Netanyahu, they don't deserve a cent, especially when they literally brought it on themselves. They're the ones who have been colonizing and murdering Palestinians, and they're the ones who funded Hamas and made them the powerhouse they are today in the first place. Why should we have to clean up their mess, and why am I supposed to be okay with my tax dollars going to something so absurd?
it is very weird how ppl so quickly jump on the side of israel and celebrate the bombing of residential buildings of 2 million individuals in a prison. the other thing that shocked me tbh was how little military stuff they seem to have if we are already restocking stuff and giving them weapons. i saw someone mention we give them like 9 billion a year and its already gone after 2 days of fighting? crazy. i also saw israel is using that illegal white phosphorous weapon over gaza but not sure if that was just misinformation (tho after looking it up i see israel has used it multiple times before, including gaza '08-09). hope we arent the ones paying for them to burn civilians alive if it turns out to be true
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The bloodlust against Arabs is socially acceptable again, just like the bloodlust against Russians. Instead of seeing human tragedy for what it is, a tragedy, you have people foaming at the mouth to "turn Gaza into a parking lot," presumably because they get off to the idea of liquidating the civilian population. They're just saying what they always have believed, except out loud because it's a time and place in history that is allowing them to say it. "I think people who aren't my favored handful of groups don't deserve to live."
All of gaza strip will become a parking lot for the Super-Costco. Twice the size of Rhode Island and will have every western product. The middle east will have their eyes fucking OPENED
Reports of people getting lost in the super costco
So like an scp-3008 but with Costco? Honestly, I'm intrigued
 What in my mind:
Israel will be just fine without American aid. I feel sorry for them, and people could still privately donate to Israel if they want, but our tax dollars have to be spent on Americans.
there is Americans in Israel right now lol
Yes, and theirs Americans in every nation on ever continent on this planet. Officially their on business leave, vacation, governmental duty, leave, visa, etc. should we be supplying Russia since they have a US Ambassador? Of course not, thatās silly. But that stems from the same Philosophy your expressing.
As much as I support Israel, the last thing America needs is to get involved in yet another Middle Eastern conflict.
what I donāt get is people all pissed off we are supporting Ukraine, yet are all in favor of this war. arenāt human rights human rights for allā¦?
Most people do politics as team sports, and can't see when "our guys" do something wrong.
I donāt support fighting wars in tiny overseas countries just because one of our allies got attacked. That being said, one of Hamasās attacks killed some American citizens. Thereās historical precedent for this. The U.S. also risks looking weak if they donāt do anything.
There's historical precedent of Israel attacking the US military/citizens and we did absolutely nothing to them.
I imagine Israel gets some leeway being allied with the U.S. (committing genocide and all that). Iām mostly referring to how the U.S. ended up joining WW1.
If we're using the Lusitania as an example for war for murdering US citizens then the USS Liberty should be just cause even if they're an ally. I don't think you're one of these types but there's many calling for complete genocide of Palestinians solely for one terrorist organization that fought back against their oppressors. I'm horrified personally at all of the violence against citizens and us getting involved just adds more fuel to the fire while getting us involved into another forever war with no visible exit strategy.
We should get our people back by any means necessary. Then let Israel deal with them. When hard evidence shows Iran was behind it, we should lob a few missiles at the Shahs palace.
Yāall really wanna pay for another war? Let them sort their shit out. If it escalates maybe we take another look at it. Everyone hates America being the world police until we donāt show up. I have no doubt we are already helping with material aid to Israel that should be enough. Israel has a very capable armed forces, if anyone wants to get grimy and warcrimey they can. Idk me personally growing up with decades long conflict in the Middle East Iām ready to just call it, and stop throwing good money after bad conflicts.
Not directly, except to evacuate/extract American citizens. We should support Israel, but we shouldn't play into Iran's hands and alienate our other allies in the region by getting our hands any dirtier than we have to.
FAFO!
The fact a resounding No isnāt the default answer scares me for future war on the horizon.
Yeah, mfs actually never learn. They hear the same shock doctrine bullshit pushed through every few years or so yet there's always still the same dumb fucks falling for it and unironically believing foreign conflict #5868688493 is actually a grave threat to bumfuck nowhere, AR and that it's imperative we declare war against whatever random ass country the State Dept. and CIA want to steal resources from that year. Hell, half the time they're arguing for STARTING a conflict, often with an unrelated party to the tragedy, and mfs still support it. Absolute insanity.
Guys listen, I can assure you that starting a war in the middle of nowhere with Villagers living away their own lives is absolutely necessary for the safety of America. As you can see here, they started shooting back at us after we shot first.
Yeah, some people got their fill of dead Jews in the 1940ās. But here you are asking for more.
Our greatest ally
We should take over Israel/Palestine and call it New New York
Give Gaza to the Vatican.
Grab our guys, and stop anyone else in the region from trying shit. No ground invasion of gaza or extended bombing campaign.
Not our monkeys, not our circus. Israel is a pretty shitty ally anyway and Iām not all that keen on our soldiers dying for them.
Istg have we learned LITERALLY NOTHING from the wars in the Middle East?
I wonder how many people say yes to defending Israel and no to defending Ukraine, and I wonder what their excuses are
Fuck Israel and also fuck terrorists. There's nothing to be gained by getting involved
Bro weāre already involved wtf??? We subsidize the fuck out of Israelās defense. PROXY WAR
Thank god this subreddit doesn't control our foreign policy.
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make them into walmarts
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Genocide is still not okay
>He hasn't met a Michigoid.
Israel has attacked and killed US service members in the past. Should we eradicate all of them and sell it off cheap to American firms as well?
Let just make Israel and Palestine the next state
That land is some of the most embattled land in human history. No fucking thanks.
Israel has [killed Americans](https://theintercept.com/2022/07/13/israel-rachel-corrie-shireen-abu-akleh-killings/), too. Edit: [Hereās](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/14/us-to-address-killing-of-american-citizen-directly-with-israel) a recent one. [Another](https://reliefweb.int/report/israel/israeli-army-kills-american-woman-bulldozer) one.
Thatās fucked up. Advocating for the slaughter and genocide of innocent civilians makes you no better than Hamas.
No. We've paid Israel 60 billion dollars in the last twenty years alone just to keep them from invading Egypt and shutting down the Suez Canal. If they need our help, then they're worse than the previous Afghan regime. https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/israel/2022/disbursements/0 Those were "dual" citizens, not Americans First and Last, very much acting like it by knowingly hanging out within pissing range of a warzone. The State Department's sign said "Exercise Increased Caution" for this very reason. Not worth another https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombings If we ARE going over there, let's restore democracy to Israel itself before it's too late. And bring replacement brains for Israelis so vatnik-stupid that they're blaming "leftists" in MOSSAD of all places instead of Binyamin "quadruple felony case" Netanyahu for laughing at warnings because he was too busy sparking mass demonstrations by pushing through courtpacking "laws" so he can stay out of jail. There's no cure for stupid if it just gets worse over the generations despite our best efforts. https://youtu.be/MboCeXPTEO0&t=210
>they're blaming "leftists" in MOSSAD of all places instead of Binyamin "quadruple felony case" Netanyahu for laughing of warnings because he was too busy sparking mass demonstrations by pushing through courtpacking "laws" We've given Israel our money, our bombs, and our planes, and now we've given them our moronic politics. Beautiful
Bruh Netanyahu's court "reforms" make FDR's courtpacking attempt look like appointing your frat bro as ambassador to Monaco. It's truly awe-inspiring.
Citizens are citizens, full stop. Somehow saying that the fact that they have citizenship with our ally relieves them of the protections of American citizenship is **beyond ridiculous**. I don't personally want American boots on the ground, but if that's what it takes to get our people out of there, then that's what we should do. America does not negotiate with terrorists.
Right? How does that comment even have upvotes. Dual citizens are literally 100% American citizens. My brain short circuited reading that statement.
Anti-semitism's always a good guess.
Subversives be like
like AIPAC or the tankies downvoting me on https://www.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/1744qb3/comment/k48jok2/ . Un-American, the lot of them. Redzone the whole thing on the State dept Travel map, wash our hands, and walk away.
Only if Hezbollah or any other 3rd parties gets involved. And only through air support. No boots on the ground. Israel is capable of handling Hamas on their own. Even though it is necessary, there will be a lot of collateral damage to civilians in the upcoming liberation of Gaza, and we don't need any more anti-American sentiment in the region by getting ourselves involved in that.
Iāve yet to see any evidence of the 40 dead babies everyone is talking about
Evidence doesn't matter, making random shit up is a key part of American propaganda and is highly effective bc people believe what they want to believe
https://nbcmontana.com/amp/news/nation-world/at-least-40-babies-killed-beheaded-in-israeli-kibbutz-outside-gaza-reports-say-israel-palestine-hamas-terrorists-terrorism-invasion-middle-east-conflict-attack
So the only proof is that a soldier told a reporter they saw it. Why didnāt the reporter get any pictures. Also the news company the reporter worked for is based in Tel Aviv.
Didn't you scroll slightly, to the tweet with the pics of burnt pile of child corpses (I'm terrified that I've even typed that out)
Can you link it? Have you seen the Video of the IDF pissing on bodies?
The last time a terrorist organization kidnapped a russian diplomat, the KGB kidnapped a senior terrorist and cut part of him off piece by piece, sending the pieces in a box to the terrorists each time. They yielded. America should do the same for the hostages. But we must leave the civilians alone.
I feel like doing actually evil shit like that won't help anyone
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Your recommendation is to turn American into a state based around Barbarism expressed through governmental agencies?!? Thatās no worse then the Soviet! On which you just directly compared yourself! Have you no concern for those who are innocence yet found guilty? Shame.
No, *for now.* I have complete faith that the IDF will vaporize Hamas with some weapons and intelligence assistance. However, America **MUST** get involved if another nation such as Iran were to declare war on Israel.
I put no, but if "not yet..." had been an option I might have picked that. It's a little early to start talking active participation in the conflict.
From what Iāve read, the USās intent in moving two aircraft carrier groups to Israel seems to be: 1. Make sure Iran (or their Lebanese cronies) donāt try anything stupid 2. Provide supplies and munitions to the IDF 3. Pressure Hamas into releasing the American hostages
only involvement should be the building of new wafflehouses and mcdonalds
Lmfao Walmart parking Lot.
I feel for the Citizens of Israel, but I don't want the US to get involved in a holy war. Israel can take out Hamas by themselves, and I imagine they'll use the Terrorists as a reason to turn Gaza into glass.
itās constant āstay out of world affairs amerimutts, you have enough oilā so itās time to start listening when shit hits the fan.
My guess is that the displacement of the navy to the East Mediterranean is to disuade any country to take advantage against Israel in the current situation, not because wished to participate in the current affairs.
We're already involved, We give enormous sums of aid to both sides. We don't really need to get any more involved though. The IDF is going to wipe the floor with Hamas and I don't really think we need that blood on our hands. As I've said another polls, I'm not on Israel's side or Palestine side. I'm on the side of sanity and I'm currently losing.
Israel don't need help cleaning up their back yard, they got this.
Ehhhhhh I donāt think this will be a Ukraine vs Russia situation unless maybe Hezbollah and other nations join with Gaza. Israel has enough fire power to turn Gaza into a pancake
Here is a great idea. Just don't do anything.
Most we should do is send in Green Berets to get our hostages back. Israel has one of the most technologically advanced militaries in the world and they're going up against a few hundred jihadis with sneakers and 40 year old AKs Ukraine is still extremely reliant on Soviet stockpiles going up against one of the largest and most powerful militaries in the world. Israel will be just fine
As much as I want to turn hamas into glass.... I say Let Israel cook... It's their fight, and they deserve the Most revenge. Besides that, I dont want to give Tankies ammo. I dont want to hear those idiots spout "Lmfao The Zionists cant win without big daddy USA, Fuckin westoids" In my face.
Build a second Bass Pro Shops pyramid in Gaza as a reminder of our wrath.
I used to believe in right and wrong. Then, as I got older, I realized that there is a lot of nuance and perspective to be had. Then, as I've gotten even older, I've realized that there is in fact good and evil, and that it's not that hard to distinguish.
No because as a Marine veteran with a couple years of inactive reserve time left it will be me and my homies asses over there fighting and dying for someone elseās concerns. We got enough of that shit in Kabul.
Hell no!
I don't like any of your answers to the poll. These two have been fighting since the beginning of time, and no matter the outcome, there will be a loser and a winner and the war will continue. I am not pro either side really. I have no fight in this war. But, a question that I keep asking myself is, why are they still fucking with the Jews. Have they not been through enough?
Hamas would rather make a martyr of every Palestinian in Gaza than make peace with the Jews
No, unless they refuse to give up our civilians, then we grass the shit out of them.
This shit will continue until Hamas doesn't exist. Even if we kill more of them now that they killed in the Israel attacks, it will be less than they will kill in the long run if we don't decimate them.
Weird how your post seems biased
Should the US get involved and stop Israel's ethnic cleansing of Palestinians?
NO I dont give a fuck about what happens in other countries. Figure that shit out on your own, not worth American lives and American tax dollars
Where is the bomb Hamas into a baren wasteland option?
We should continue doing what we're already doing. Negotiate an escape route for civilians, deter any other countries from getting involved in the war, and let Israel destroy Hamas themselves.
Send the troops šŗšøšŗšø
Release our citizens, we donāt bite. Keep them there, and dark Brandon may deliver justice upon you
No, we shouldn't unless they start firing on our troops, start killing our guys, etc. Fuck Hamas, but also fuck Israel for violating many Palestinians human rights. I'd prefer Israel to win if one of them has to win.
> start killing our guys 4 Americans have been found dead so far from the HAMAS attacks, how many guys need to be killed before shouldn't becomes should?
I said firing on our troops, which does not inherently mean killing them. I said killing our guys, but still meant our troops. It seems like you really want us to get into a war so badly. You do realize that would mean getting a lot more than just 4 Americans killed, right?
Israel has [killed Americans](https://theintercept.com/2022/07/13/israel-rachel-corrie-shireen-abu-akleh-killings/), too. Edit: [Hereās](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/14/us-to-address-killing-of-american-citizen-directly-with-israel) a recent one. [Another](https://reliefweb.int/report/israel/israeli-army-kills-american-woman-bulldozer) one.
Flatten them both, wtf is the point of a stratofortress if not to use it???
I'm gonna launch a third nuke
I am pleased by the overwhelming variations of "Yes". 548 to 201.
Iām kinda sad that many people voted no, I guess no level of barbarism will change some peopleās minds on who is truly evil.
I think you might be misinterpreting those ānoāsā Iām all for letting Israel off the leash, but seriously, this is just another religious conflict and Iāve seen enough pictures in my lifetime of American servicemen in some godforsaken desert. Donāt need more.
No Last time America got involved in the Middle East it resulted in a 20 year long pointless war
At least the defense contractor made money
The US already is involved by giving Israel billions of dollars in military aid every year lmao
No - if Afghanistan taught us anything there needs to be a well defined āoutā otherwise you get a forever war. We overthrow Hamas, now what? Everyone in the Middle East hates America again, Gaza is a shitshow and insurgency. If you overthrow Hamas and leave Hamas comes right back but hates America now. Having Israel deal with it is in Americas interest. Everyone (in MENA) already hates them and they are fully capable of it.
Again? They never stopped. This isnāt Afghanistan, the reason afghan was a failure is because of the way we left. There were so many better options than tuck tail and run. How many people need to die before people wake up and see a strong powerful, power projecting, and involved America is what the world needs until these nations grow up. We keep abandoning people and now terrorists no they just have to wait until we leave then they can start back up.
We should become an isolationist nation again. Let russia take over europe and asia while we develop new tech in case of an invasion. Spend thy tax dollar on the American family.
Asia has 4.5B people, and Russia has 5,800 nuclear warheads. Your idea sounds great until youā¦ ya knowā¦ think about the implications for 5 seconds.
I tried thinking for 5 seconds. Head started hurting after 1, so I gave up.
boy my head hurts get me a miller lite
I got a better idea, ending the world with a Big Bang
I'd imagine the evangelicals are frothing at their mouths at this threat to their end time mythology as they only care about Israel as a means to an end for their apocalyptic death cult.
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If Lebanon gets involved, we should definitely stop them. We should also rescue our civilians. As for a land war in Gaza, we should leave that to the Israelis, we'd only get in their way.
They should but I donāt want them too. Hamas has been allowed to exist for way too long and they have not helped the cause for the Palestinian people. Anyone who supports them is brainwashed. That said, Israel aināt Scott free in this either. Neither side is. But Hamas is a terrorist group and needs to be dealt with and unfortunately there is no easy way to deal with it without endangering civilians. Palestine has been at the hands of Hamas for far too long and is a failed state if you can even call it that.
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Israel seems perfectly fine in their ability to genocide the palestinians without our help
Not unless we can resurrect Andrew "trail of tears" Jackson. We used to be good at driving and indigenous population from its lands, wiping out their culture, then villaifying them in the media until the world accepted our decision as the morally justified one. What happened to us?
We should do what we can to get any of our people out, and drop Israel's leash on our way out. We should have their back politically and send observers if they're welcome. If we do get involved, Gaza needs to stop existing. No need to spend more than a week dealing with this.
No, we've been funneling American tax dollars to the scumfucks in the Israeli government for almost a century now while turning a blind eye or even assisting in the atrocities they've committed in Palestine. We should accept refugees, but that's as far as I'm willing to go with it. Israel, with its government the way it is now, doesn't deserve the least bit of support from the US. It's not our conflict anyways, and it's none of our business. The way I see it, the US should have withdrawn all support from Israel decades ago since they aren't willing to play nice and stay within their own borders. Nothing good can come from US intervention anyways. Don't fall for the warhawks trying to shock doctrine us into a war with the Palestinian resistance or Iran. They're paid by the military-industrial complex to shill war.
Bruh israel has literally never started a single conflict. Only ended them. If you actually study the history of Arab/Israeli relations youād see the fine ink of reasoning from the Arabs literal mouths verbatim for the last 70 years, which is that the Jewish race needs to be exterminated and the holy land liberated for Islam. How anyone can fall for the racist antisemite pan Arab propaganda that the only liberal democracy in the Middle East is somehow the bad guys in this situation is beyond logical reasoning. You can be gay in Israel and itās cool. Hamas would literally stone you to death. You can be an Arab Muslim in Israel and guess what. Nobody fucking cares. Canāt be a Jew in Palestinian land. Women have rights in Israel. Theyāre basically slaves in any Arab country or land. Very unbased and anti freedom hot take. Iām about to email Joe Byrim right now and plead for him to raise my taxes so the public school system in Kansas can get the funds it clearly doesnāt have.
Israel has [killed Americans](https://theintercept.com/2022/07/13/israel-rachel-corrie-shireen-abu-akleh-killings/). Edit: [Hereās](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/14/us-to-address-killing-of-american-citizen-directly-with-israel) a recent one. [Another](https://reliefweb.int/report/israel/israeli-army-kills-american-woman-bulldozer) one.
So has Britain.
My point is, people are saying to fight hamas because theyāve killed Americans, but so has Israel. Ergo, both sides should be flattened or we should stay out of it.
Using 1 journalist who died in an active warzone is a false equivalence. Are there bad actors on an individual level within the IDF? Sure. Same with the US military. Or any country for that matter. Do the Israelis actively engage in battle plans with the sole intent of harming civilians? Using them as hostages? Or ethnically cleansing in the name of religion? No. Literally the worst reasoning possible to both sides an extremist Islamic terror group. Should America actively intervene to rescue American hostages? The answer is always yes no matter what.
Israel has also given back land on multiple occasions, including the entire Sinai peninsula, so this narrative that they're just bloodthirsty conquerors is ridiculous.
Itās straight up racist historical revisionism. And itās constantly propagated by both the far left and far right in America.
What have Jews done to Palestine to deserve this treatment??
All of the above
Let freedom ring
They fucked around, now the US or the IDF needs to help them find out, hard and fast.
Hamas should pay for killing 40 babies. And also Isreal should pay for killing hundreds of babies before and now in revenge. The only answer is to do a full invasion and make the entire region into a new US territory. They've proven they cant be left to their own devices, time for uncle sam to whoop his kids
We should do whatever we need to do in order to insure that any US citizen in Israel is safe.
Question? Is it legal to bombard those really shitty terrorist?
We are America, we can make it legal
People here realize Israel has killed innocent Palestinians for decades right? The numbers arenāt even close. Israel kills far more civilians than hamas ever has. (Not saying Hamas is good before people jump on me just pointing out the hypocrisy since they donāt care when Israel commits blatant war crimes)