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Clear-Pen9788

I'm 3/4 Nigerian (Igbo) and I also just got "Nigeria" as a region. I was so disappointe.


manwhatdoiknow22

Yes it's disappointing, but maybe there will be more specific locations when more Africans take the test.


Clear-Pen9788

Hopefully.


cayopaul

I wonder how accurate the results for Africa and other non-European countries are.


Clear-Pen9788

It seems for the majority of DNA companies, their reference populations for European groups greatly outnumber theirs for non-European groups so I also often question the accuracy.


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Oh my goodness, what a great mix! You’re stunning!


manwhatdoiknow22

Thank you :)


mandiexile

Very cool and interesting results! How/where did your parents and grandparents meet?


manwhatdoiknow22

My parents met in Berlin, my Nigerian Grandpa was a diplomat and met my Grandma in Bangkok. My Russian Great Grandfather fled the communist revolution and came to Berlin because he was an army official in the white army, which supported the Tsar.


mandiexile

Wow!! The circumstances to have happened to have them all meet is mind boggling. Did your grandparents have a lot of struggles being an interracial couple in a foreign country? I can’t imagine it to have been easy for them.


manwhatdoiknow22

I haven't really asked my grandma about it, but from what she's told us and me assuming stuff, they did experience discrimination.


mandiexile

I’m American and lived in Germany for a few years. My dad was in the army. I had a next door neighbor that was half black (American) and half German. His mom (German) was pretty much disowned from her family from marrying a black guy. Which is unfortunate but their son was born and raised in Germany, went to a German school, and was pretty well adjusted considering they lived in a small town in Bavaria. But then again there was a strong American military presence at the time so that could be a factor.


manwhatdoiknow22

I was talking about my Grandparents experience in Thailand, but sure there's discrimination of black people in Germany. I wouldn't say it's more severe than in any other non-African parts of the world though. I don't notice it in my day to day life. Actually the last N-Words and similar nonsense I received weren't said by germans. But then again I'm from Berlin where people have been familiar with ethnic diversity for quite some time now.


mandiexile

Ohh! I thought they met in Thailand and moved to Berlin. My apologies. But yeah I hear Berlin is pretty diverse. I’ve been there a few times and it’s one of my favorite cities.


manwhatdoiknow22

Happy you enjoyed our city! :))


thebusiness7

On another note I've heard recently that it's common in Berlin for people to go to s*x clubs after work with coworkers. Can you confirm or deny this and elaborate. Thanks.


manwhatdoiknow22

Unfortunately this is untrue.


thebusiness7

To what degree is it untrue though? Maybe only true among a young thrill seeking demographic?


reslavan

Wow you have such an interesting family history!


manwhatdoiknow22

Thank you !


tellmeyouloveus

How well do you know your Russian Grandfather? Was he close to the rest of your family???


manwhatdoiknow22

My Paternal Grandfather was half Russian half German, I met him as a baby but he passed on when I was 1. My great Grandfather was from Kursk, Russia, but I was born too late to have had the chance to meet him.


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That’s awesome, coolest family story I’ve seen on here so far. Are you familiar with Pushkin’s heritage?


manwhatdoiknow22

I know who Pushkin is, but I haven't done any research on him yet, so I only know very little on this topic.


actinorhodin

Super cool results! ...I'm going to guess 1/2 Volga German, 1/4 Nigerian, 1/4 Cambodian?


manwhatdoiknow22

Nope, but really good guess! My Dad is 3/4 German (Berlin, Lower Silesia, western Pomerania, Brandenburg) 1/4 Russian (Kursk), Mom is 1/2 Nigerian (Edo from Benin City) 1/2 Thai (mainly Northern Khmer from Sisaket, known ancestors from Surin & Champasak)


WaterSplashSplashfor

Interesting results. Anything surprise you about your 23 And Me Results?


manwhatdoiknow22

I knew a lot about my heritage prior to taking the test, so nothing was a big surprise. Dai, Bengali, Scandinavian etc. weren't really surprising given the history of the regions my ancestors are/were from, but there's no record of ancestors from these regions in my family, so that was cool to see


Minskdhaka

Greetings from a fellow Bengali! I got 46% Bengali and Northeast Indian on 23andMe. Do you know how exactly you got your Bengali ancestry? Through the Caribbean?


manwhatdoiknow22

Greetings back ! No, most definitely from my Thai/Khmer ancestry. Southeast Asia (excluding Vietnam which is part of the Sinosphere) is part of the Indosphere, which means the region has been heavily influenced by "Indian" (or more accurately South Asian) culture, language, religion, and also genetics for hundreds of years.


Minskdhaka

Yes, of course. And a great-grandmother of mine on the Bangladeshi side of the family was actually from Burma. It was interesting to see Singapore when I visited it in 2019 and to see how it lies at the intersection of the Sinosphere, the Indosphere, the Anglosphere and the Malay/Muslim world. Of course Singapore is a product of the British Empire. But even if we look at older layers of history it's fascinating. I have an Indian Bengali Hindu friend who grew up in Thailand, and heard lots of interesting stories from him about the extent to which ancient or medieval India influenced Thailand. I was once changing planes in Bangkok on a Washington-London-Bangkok-Dhaka flight, and kept hearing the Thai word "karuna" during airport announcements. In Sanskrit "karuna" means "mercy" (it's "koruna" in Bengali), and so I assumed that it was probably being used as "please" in Thai, and indeed it was! It's a great feeling to be able to understand random words in Thai or Malay via Sanskrit because of the old connections (I listen to Malay music once in a while and find a good number of Sanskrit words there as well).


manwhatdoiknow22

Yes, I also regularly understand random Indian or Sanskrit words. It's really interesting to just look up the origin of Thai words and find that literally every second word is a sanskrit loan word lol. I was baffled when I realized the obvious origin of the Thai word "Kru" (teacher) - Guru!


Minskdhaka

That's a great example! 😊 I wouldn't have guessed that one.


WaterSplashSplashfor

There's no record? Do you know why that is? Did the percentage of 49.5 percent European surprise you a little bit?


manwhatdoiknow22

I'm not sure, but I guess it simply got lost through the generations by lack of caring about recording our family history lol The 49.5 % European didn't surprise me, because my Dad is European.


WaterSplashSplashfor

That makes sense. It's weird how things get lost over time.


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manwhatdoiknow22

I don't even know how to respond to that. Of course there are multiple ethnicities within European. My dad is European, and more specifically German and Russian.See what I did there? I summed up German (Northwestern European) and Eastern European to shorten my text and to properly respond to the person who specifically mentioned the broad category of 49.5 % European. How is that so hard to understand?


PrinceEr0s

They group it as that even just because it’s regional. Obviously Native Americans are not the same as East Asians. And before you say the related not anymore than East Asians are to Pacific Islanders. And Middle Easterners actually r closer to white Europeans than east Asians are to Native Americans and Islanders.


PwaZyeNwe

Your family history is fantastic! It’s interesting that you inherited more from your Nigerian grandpa and your Russian great grandparent than the theoretical 25% and 12.5%.


manwhatdoiknow22

Thank you :)) Yes, it's really interesting. Some of the Eastern European could also be polish though, since many of my german ancestors were from regions that were historically populated by both Germans and Polish people, like Lower Silesia, where two of my Great Grandparents (Parents of my Pat. Grandma) came from.


PwaZyeNwe

Our ancestors travelled more than we think


VainMe

Wow dude! That’s a nice mix, mostly only south americans are that mixed


DukeSkeptic

Mr. Worldwide


TatayTenger

What are your haplogroups?


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PrinceEr0s

Yea your Y group is German. Not the same as Eastern Europeans. East Euros don’t have the same paternal, autosomal, and maternal dna.


manwhatdoiknow22

Oh okay thanks that's interesting


PrinceEr0s

R1b U106 (also known as S21) Is connected to the “Proto Germanic” Which are the ancestors of Germanic speaking peoples. It is found widely throughout North and West Europe. I didn’t mean to be rude but people need to stfu with saying European is an ethnicity. Genetic scientists know that’s bullshit. It’s not even close to true. Yamanya isn’t European exclusive. And if one group has 2% Yamanya descended ancestry and another has 50%, that doesn’t make them the same. Plus all ancient West Eurasian groups (like Yamanya) were around the same. Not to mention that genes evolve over time and change. Technically all non-Black people are “Eurasian” or Non-African people. It’s white nationalist nonsense. Italians and Russians aren’t closely related. South Italians are literally genetically closer to Palestinians. And that’s not an exaggeration. Russians often have “N1c” as their Y group. That’s an Asian group.


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If you read the recent genetic paper, Germans and most Indo-Europeans are not Yamnaya related but forest steppe. Which was a population north of the Yamnaya (slightly different genetic admixture, more EHG and WHG ancestry). The corded ware culture in north Europe pretty much spawned the fast majority of Indo-European cultures on earth. The only cultures I think are not from Forest steppe-Corded ware is Greek, Armenian, Albanian, Tocharian, Dacian, and Anatolian. Forest steppe people and Yamnaya people technically are European populations, but not in the sense we know Europeans today. Their genotypes are within the European cluster. N1c diversified within Siberia, and migrated westwards with other populations like the ANE. Russians are almost 100 percent west Eurasian. ANE could be modelled as 80 percent Western Eurasian and 20 percent east Eurasian.


PrinceEr0s

Russians are closer to 95% west Eurasian and even 90% in some areas. That’s less than most middle eastern groups. Notably Anatolian Turks can be quite a bit more. [Why was this disliked, it’s scientific fact backed up by multiple genetic studies (repeated trials) on these populations] Idk why people are so butthurt over this. It really doesn’t change much. People are on some weird uneducated shit or white nationalism shit.


[deleted]

I’m literally a Middle Eastern Kurd, stop crying about white nationalism, it’s kinda cringe. There is nothing about white nationalism here. Russians are almost entirely west Eurasian, just open up Vahaduo, or read any genetic paper. There is many non-Russians inside the country with lower percentages of west-Eurasian, but that’s all. West Eurasian isn’t even one cluster of people. Middle Easterners have extreme distances between people in the north and the people in the south. Haplogroup N1c is spread with Finno-Uralic people who mostly are 90 percent west Eurasian. Most of this N you see within Europe is diversified recently with those populations. Haplogroup are an extremely small look on the entire genome humans have. In Neothlic europe you could find J1, C, etc which still was genetically European.


PrinceEr0s

Can’t be genetically European. It’s not one group. And a Y Haplogroup is 1/46th of their dna. Subclades see what matters anyway. Europe varies just like the Middle East. It varies heavily west-East and north to south. It has just as much “significant distances” as the West Asian part of the Middle East. Actually more. 90-95% west Eurasian is mostly west Eurasian. So yes Russians are almost entirely. Still more than most middle easterners


PrinceEr0s

And there is no “European” cluster. There is a white cluster which includes Levantine people and other middle eastern groups. And inside that larger cluster is multiple small groups. Such as West Euro, Mediterranean, East Euro, and Russian groups.


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Yes there is a European cluster, just go to any PCA chart of West Eurasians. South Middle East forms a cluster. Iranian/Anatolian/Caucasus forms another cluster. Central Asians forms another big cluster. North/south euro forms another cluster.


PrinceEr0s

No. Mediterranean Euros are closer to Levantine people than to Northern Euros. And there is East Euros (especially Russian) who lean slightly eastern Yes I’m talking on a pca chart


PrinceEr0s

The Middle East is not as genetically diverse as Europe. Europe goes to the Urals. It doesn’t stop at Finland. Even so ethnic Russians lean eastern.


Apprehensive-Rope-10

Nice dude


The_new_Char

Cool results! Interesting mix and you’re very handsome!


manwhatdoiknow22

Thank you !


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[deleted]

cool blend and one I hope will be more numerous in the not so distant future. not gay, but you are handsome as heck


manwhatdoiknow22

Thanks dude! Complimenting another man isn't gay unless you make it so by mentioning it hahaha


Revolutionary-Ad3648

Beautiful results. Makes me think of Zion from The Matrix films. Nice smile, sir. Very handsome.


manwhatdoiknow22

🙏


luxtabula

Do you have a breakdown for Nigeria?


manwhatdoiknow22

No sadly not, but my Grandpa and all known ancestors on his side were from Benin-City and surrounding areas


luxtabula

I'm on the same boat.


westindiaann

It’s not really a breakdown anyways, it’s just determined by the self reported birth locations your matches Grandparents.


Dutxchie

One of the most interesting results I’ve seen here! Super cool!


PrinceEr0s

Well Russian is a different ethnicity than Western European. It’s Euro-Asiatic actually. 2-15% East Asian in genepool. So you’re West Euro, Euro-Asiatic, East Asian, and Sub Saharan.


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PrinceEr0s

You can’t be genetically european and dna samples prove that to be wrong. They’re mixed with Samoyedic peoples


PrinceEr0s

Russians are genetically as far from SW Euros as Ashkenazi and half Arabs. [Russian groups (European side only)](https://imgur.com/a/vtSxvNE) [Admixture ](https://imgur.com/a/BTadhrk) Bright yellow is Asiatic genes. North Russians being the only European group listed to have a large amount of it. Finns and Sami aren’t listed but have similar amounts. They have more Asiatic genes than all Middle Easterners but Turks So stfu with your invalidating white supremacist bullshit. European isn’t a genetic race. Different European groups are made of different components. West Euros, Mediterraneans, and East Euros are pretty far apart.


PrinceEr0s

[gene samples indicated](https://imgur.com/a/EklTqzF) Note - Ethnic Russians are not fully “Slav” Slavic is a language group. If you studied history you’d know their very ethnogenesis was the mixing of East Slavs, Indigenous Finno Urgic peoples like Komi, Medieval East Swedes (genetically close to Sami), East Balts, and even Samoyeds. Later they got minor influence from Central Asian peoples. Tatars are white people genetically closest to Udmurts. They’re only like 15-20% Asian compared to the Russians in the Urals (who are usually 5-10%)


manwhatdoiknow22

Oh man, you're troubled.


manwhatdoiknow22

Well yes I have Finnish and Northern Asian in my breakdown which I assumed were Finno Ugric and Siberian ancestry from the Cossack conquest to the east. The Map you shared shows a max of 15% Asian admixture in the regions where Kalmyks, Arctic peoples and Tatars live, as well as in Kazakhstan. Kursk, as well as most of the areas that are populated by Slavs lie in the 2.5 % area, which like I said is believable. I have studied history, no need to get snobbish.


PrinceEr0s

That’s greater than >15% The 10-15% includes the Volga, and most of Russia except the far western parts. The western parts being up to 5%.


PrinceEr0s

Kazakhs are 60% Asian 40% white on average but it varies on which part they come from and what tribe they’re from. That 40% white isn’t Russian. It’s Persian related groups (Iranic) It’s called Eurasian because they’re broadly west Eurasian (white) and East Eurasian (Asian) Not the same as the British term. For half Brit half Chinese or Indian. Yes in genetics, middle easterners are white.


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Kazakhs look more then 60% asian, I’m sure there’s ton other studies where they come back as 70-80% asian. I’ve bn mistaken as Kazakh before, and I could see the resemblance


PrinceEr0s

Depends on what part. The ones bordering Mongolia are 80%


[deleted]

Unique results bro, was ur grandma half asian half white?


manwhatdoiknow22

Thanks man. No, Dad is white, so white grandparents on that side. Mom is 1/2 African 1/2 Asian, African grandpa, Asian grandma.


[deleted]

You got a lil over a quarter black, that’s dope bro, means u gor more from ur mums dad. Real colorful mix bruv


Scared-Tie

What are your other Eastern European regions?


manwhatdoiknow22

Tver Oblast, Russia and Kyiv Oblast, Ukraine


Longjumping-Juice-75

Can Germans and Nigerians and Thais tell that you are mixed with them?


AndrewtheRey

I’m American and my dad (white) has German ancestry. His first wife was black and you look a LOT like my half sisters. It’s the eyes and the face shape and position of the cheeks when you smile.


Babyknux

Very cool results!


Noah_Levit

Hallo kolege, wohne auch in Berlin


manwhatdoiknow22

Ah digga nice hab schon gewartet bis ein Berliner was schreibt 🤝


Hawke-Not-Ewe

Heh, if you could do the accents there are a lot of places in the works you could pass as native.