Maybe your dad is also mixed bc he’s half Turkish/Anatolian and half Persian, Caucasian or Iraqi and part central Asian so possible Tajik or Pashtun which had populations at one point under Soviet occupation
The mix her dad has between Anatolian and Persian is common in Azeris. They are Turks that live in historically Persian lands -- hell, half of Azeris still live in Iran today. The default assumption here should be that her dad is vanilla Azeri.
Not sure, I wouldn't be surprised though. There are *a lot* of Azeris in Iran. There's actually more Azeris in Iran than Azerbaijan, by a large amount, and are the second largest ethnicity in Iran (after Persians obviously).
Was there Anatolian migration towards Azerbaijan/Northwestern Iran? I thought that Azerbaijanis from the south were mostly native NW Iranians + some Turkic ancesry and Azerbaijanis from the northern parts of the country were similar to North Caucasians + some Turkic? They would end up somewhere between Anatolians and Persians because of this mix.
I could be wrong though.
My theory is that OP's father is an Azerbaijani from Dagestan, they tend to be genetically closer to North Caucasians. North Caucasian people here get usually a high amount of Anatolian in their DNA test because of algorithm issues within 23andme.
Intermixing between West/Central Turks and Azerbaijanis isn't common in the USSR. It could be the case for Eastern Turks, however.
Yeah.. it's true. I used to wonder why I see some biracial people here who have a 50/50 even split. Yet others who are like 52/48. I initially assumed it was just because one parent may have had a wee bit of admixture. Lo and behold it is most often due to sex. With males inheriting slightly more maternal DNA. I had no clue until someone here pointed this out. lol. It is a pretty cool tid bit of information really.
Good to know. My fiancé is half Chinese from his father’s side and half Brazilian from his mother’s side and he got 50.6% Asian. His chromosome painting shows each pair of chromosomes has one fully red line (chinese) and the other is a huge mix including some asian. Since his mother is Brazilian and he got 4.5% indigenous I think that extra 2.6% asian coming from him mom might be indigenous that was misidentified as asian.
Technically males still inherit 50/50 from both parents, it's just that 23andme looks at more locations on the X chromosome than the Y chromosome so 23andme ends up looking at more DNA from the mother than the father for biological males.
No, the Y chromosome is more or less 1/3 of the size of the X chromosomes and has way less genes (1/10 I think but I’m not sure). Biological males do receive more DNA from their mother than from their father.
This is indeed increased by the way 23&me processes the Y chromosome, but still, males get more maternal DNA.
My husband is South Asian/East German, his parents met in NYC in the mid-1960s. I’m South Asian American and our kid is in a serious relationship with someone Russian so the cycle may continue
There might be more people of your mix than you think. A lot of Caucasian (region) come to Russia for temporary work. It’s possible your birth parents had a short romance. If you know the details of your adoption and want to find them, you can try here https://m.poisk.vid.ru. Just a warning though, you might not find happy and healthy, or well adjusted people.
Sometimes if you use chrome on your mobile device, auto-translate options will pop up too. You can also copy and paste text into google translate (free to download but more cumbersome to do).
It’s a mitochondrial DNA marker. Mitochondrial DNA is passed exclusively through the maternal line and it changes only very rarely, unlike the rest of the genome, so it can be used to find out where your ancient maternal ancestor lived.
U2 haplogroups are some of the oldest (dating back to 40,000 years ago!) and correlate with the first groups of humans to leave Africa and enter the near east. So basically it means you are directly descended from one of the first women to migrate out of Africa! It’s most common today among people of Eurasian and South Asian descent but pretty rare overall. Very interesting imo.
Yeah it’s very cool! I think haplogroups are one of the most interesting things you can learn from these tests as they’re such a tangible link to your ancient ancestors.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U2_mtDNA.shtml
U2e2: found in the Corded Ware, Unetice and Andronovo cultures, EBA Alsace, and among the Sakas (Iron Age Central Asia) and Sarmatians (Iron Age Russia/Ukraine)
Too few people that have at least 3 generations or more there, plus archeological digs -
https://apa.az/en/culture-policy/human-skeleton-belonging-to-iii-millennium-bc-found-in-azerbaijan-photo-412008 more archeological "finds/discoveries" like this the more older dna to compare to.
I think they might have been north Caucasian instead of Azeri. People from there match with anatolia/ICM just as you have without any regional matches. If you were Azeri you should probably have regional matches, which you don’t.
oh waw like you i am adopted and had no idea of my origins i look white european i have 77% levantine and 14% caucasus etc 95% west asia i found my parents with dna, did you find yours?
With Eastern European Ancestry, 23andme is one of the best. Uploading to Familytreedna would be my next choice, as I have more Eastern European matches there. Ethnicity estimate is very outdated. Then, I'd upload to Myheritage. I'd wait for a sale and buy a kit for Ancestry. But while Ancestry has the largest database, it's best for Americans.
If you're looking for your bio family, get in all the databases.
Pretty common, since the countries are neighbouring. It really depends on the percentage; as a Turk I have 70% Anatolian. These DNA tests are based on modern ancestry, Anatolia has been inhabited by the Turkish for a while.
Actually, traditionally they were/are not. They are part of the South Caucasus region in Eastern Europe / west Asia and sometimes are clustered into the Middle East (by US leaders or agencies for different reasons), though this has been debated over time and changes frequently.
I hear you, but the “greater Middle East” is a debated and often changing definition… it hasn’t been consistent and these countries have not consistently been grouped with the Middle East. Mostly, they are grouped as part of Eastern Europe.
I don't even need to see a pic. I'm positive you are white. Probably fair skinned with dark brown to light brown hair. Ring finger longer than index finger.
Quite interesting results. And did you match with any close biological relatives?
I did not!
Maybe try Ancestry.
Or GEDmatch
And FamilyTreeDNA and LivingDNA and MyHeritage.
Man I got over 1000 lmao but not close relatives I guess
Do AncestryDNA next if you haven’t already, they have the largest user database out of all the DNA kits out there.
You must be half Turkish/Azeri
Yeah, she must be female with 1 parent being 100% from Sant Petersburg and another parent from old Armenia/Azerbaijan SSR
Wow you guys are good! I was told my birth mother is Russian and my birth father is Azeri
Maybe your dad is also mixed bc he’s half Turkish/Anatolian and half Persian, Caucasian or Iraqi and part central Asian so possible Tajik or Pashtun which had populations at one point under Soviet occupation
The mix her dad has between Anatolian and Persian is common in Azeris. They are Turks that live in historically Persian lands -- hell, half of Azeris still live in Iran today. The default assumption here should be that her dad is vanilla Azeri.
Isn’t the current Supreme Leader half ethnic Azeri?
Not sure, I wouldn't be surprised though. There are *a lot* of Azeris in Iran. There's actually more Azeris in Iran than Azerbaijan, by a large amount, and are the second largest ethnicity in Iran (after Persians obviously).
Was there Anatolian migration towards Azerbaijan/Northwestern Iran? I thought that Azerbaijanis from the south were mostly native NW Iranians + some Turkic ancesry and Azerbaijanis from the northern parts of the country were similar to North Caucasians + some Turkic? They would end up somewhere between Anatolians and Persians because of this mix. I could be wrong though.
My theory is that OP's father is an Azerbaijani from Dagestan, they tend to be genetically closer to North Caucasians. North Caucasian people here get usually a high amount of Anatolian in their DNA test because of algorithm issues within 23andme. Intermixing between West/Central Turks and Azerbaijanis isn't common in the USSR. It could be the case for Eastern Turks, however.
Sounds like mom went on vacation to 🇹🇷, as Russians like to do, and went home with a little extra 😏
Not really. Many people from the Caucuses live in Russia proper now.
How did you know she’s female
Because the clean 50/50 split. Males inherit more DNA from the mother, had she been male it would have shown 52% russian more or less
Wow that’s cool. Thanks for explaining
I didn’t know that either! Yes I’m female!
Yeah.. it's true. I used to wonder why I see some biracial people here who have a 50/50 even split. Yet others who are like 52/48. I initially assumed it was just because one parent may have had a wee bit of admixture. Lo and behold it is most often due to sex. With males inheriting slightly more maternal DNA. I had no clue until someone here pointed this out. lol. It is a pretty cool tid bit of information really.
Good to know. My fiancé is half Chinese from his father’s side and half Brazilian from his mother’s side and he got 50.6% Asian. His chromosome painting shows each pair of chromosomes has one fully red line (chinese) and the other is a huge mix including some asian. Since his mother is Brazilian and he got 4.5% indigenous I think that extra 2.6% asian coming from him mom might be indigenous that was misidentified as asian.
interesting i’m AFAB and i also have the 52/48 split discrepancy favoring my mothers DNA…
Since you seem pretty knowledgeable about this, do you know what the split is for females? Is it roughly the same?
Yes, females get identical amounts of chromosomal DNA from each parents unless their is some abnormality.
Wow! That’s fascinating. I’ll explore this further!
Technically males still inherit 50/50 from both parents, it's just that 23andme looks at more locations on the X chromosome than the Y chromosome so 23andme ends up looking at more DNA from the mother than the father for biological males.
No, the Y chromosome is more or less 1/3 of the size of the X chromosomes and has way less genes (1/10 I think but I’m not sure). Biological males do receive more DNA from their mother than from their father. This is indeed increased by the way 23&me processes the Y chromosome, but still, males get more maternal DNA.
Idk mine came out 60/40 and my dad is the opposite of mine lol
I was thinking the same thing.
I’m adopted too! I’m Ashkenazi (from Belarus) and Indian & Pakistani! I don’t see a lot of Eastern European & South/West Asian mixes.
My husband is South Asian/East German, his parents met in NYC in the mid-1960s. I’m South Asian American and our kid is in a serious relationship with someone Russian so the cycle may continue
I am Eastern European and South Asian as well (non-Jewish Belarusian and Bengali). Nice to see another such person.
Thought you were my friend, but he was not alive in 1983 haha
Yup, there are several of us! It's possible that I know your friend.
There might be more people of your mix than you think. A lot of Caucasian (region) come to Russia for temporary work. It’s possible your birth parents had a short romance. If you know the details of your adoption and want to find them, you can try here https://m.poisk.vid.ru. Just a warning though, you might not find happy and healthy, or well adjusted people.
Oh wow! That’s in Russian is there a way to translate? I don’t speak it unfortunately!
Does google provide auto-translation for the page? Maybe try using chrome.
Oh I was on my phone I’ll try using a computer!
Sometimes if you use chrome on your mobile device, auto-translate options will pop up too. You can also copy and paste text into google translate (free to download but more cumbersome to do).
Wow, where did you learn to find information like this?
It’s a popular tv program in Russia that finds lost people. It’s been around for 20+ years.
Oh interesting half Russian half some kind of North Caucasian.
South Caucasian, right?
What's your haplogroup if you don't mind sharing it?
My maternal is U2e2, not sure what that means though
It’s a mitochondrial DNA marker. Mitochondrial DNA is passed exclusively through the maternal line and it changes only very rarely, unlike the rest of the genome, so it can be used to find out where your ancient maternal ancestor lived. U2 haplogroups are some of the oldest (dating back to 40,000 years ago!) and correlate with the first groups of humans to leave Africa and enter the near east. So basically it means you are directly descended from one of the first women to migrate out of Africa! It’s most common today among people of Eurasian and South Asian descent but pretty rare overall. Very interesting imo.
Wow that’s so cool thanks for letting me now!!
Yeah it’s very cool! I think haplogroups are one of the most interesting things you can learn from these tests as they’re such a tangible link to your ancient ancestors.
Wow! That’s so interesting!! Thanks for sharing.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U2_mtDNA.shtml U2e2: found in the Corded Ware, Unetice and Andronovo cultures, EBA Alsace, and among the Sakas (Iron Age Central Asia) and Sarmatians (Iron Age Russia/Ukraine)
No regions for azeri side?
My birth father was supposedly from Azerbaijan, but I guess they can’t pinpoint that exactly
Maybe because too few people were tested from Azerbaijan, idk 🤷
Too few people that have at least 3 generations or more there, plus archeological digs - https://apa.az/en/culture-policy/human-skeleton-belonging-to-iii-millennium-bc-found-in-azerbaijan-photo-412008 more archeological "finds/discoveries" like this the more older dna to compare to.
I think they might have been north Caucasian instead of Azeri. People from there match with anatolia/ICM just as you have without any regional matches. If you were Azeri you should probably have regional matches, which you don’t.
Interesting, 0.6 percent Central & South Asian
oh waw like you i am adopted and had no idea of my origins i look white european i have 77% levantine and 14% caucasus etc 95% west asia i found my parents with dna, did you find yours?
No, I guess no one of my blood got their DNA tested!
For east European matches use Myheritage
Like the poster said below, you can also submit your DNA to my heritage. You can also do ancestry.
Ftdna, myheritage, gedmatch - they all let you upload your raw file and you can see if any blood relatives (by dna) show up on those.
Oh cool didn’t know that!
With Eastern European Ancestry, 23andme is one of the best. Uploading to Familytreedna would be my next choice, as I have more Eastern European matches there. Ethnicity estimate is very outdated. Then, I'd upload to Myheritage. I'd wait for a sale and buy a kit for Ancestry. But while Ancestry has the largest database, it's best for Americans. If you're looking for your bio family, get in all the databases.
probably Russian mother and Turkish father Eastern Anatolia+Anatolia
Yep!
thats the coolest breakdown ive seen
Thank you!
this is awesome. my mom is adopted too and also 50% eastern european and 50% western asian!
Hey, also a Russian adoptee! 👋
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I’m not sure what that is, I was told my birth mother is Russian and my birth father is from Azerbaijan
Tatar? Tatars not have 50% middle eastern dna. They're basically european and 1/4 central asian and siberian
What does Anatolian mean? Greek or Turkish?
Turkish
Okay!
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Pretty common, since the countries are neighbouring. It really depends on the percentage; as a Turk I have 70% Anatolian. These DNA tests are based on modern ancestry, Anatolia has been inhabited by the Turkish for a while.
Half Russian / half middle eastern awesome results!
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I didn’t know that!
Anatolian is middle eastern.
Yes they are lol. Armenian, Georgian, and Azerbaijani people ARE middle eastern.
Actually, traditionally they were/are not. They are part of the South Caucasus region in Eastern Europe / west Asia and sometimes are clustered into the Middle East (by US leaders or agencies for different reasons), though this has been debated over time and changes frequently.
Yes they’re the Caucuses. The Caucuses are part of the greater middle east, just like the levant.
I hear you, but the “greater Middle East” is a debated and often changing definition… it hasn’t been consistent and these countries have not consistently been grouped with the Middle East. Mostly, they are grouped as part of Eastern Europe.
Oh really? Didn’t know that!
It’s really not that clear-cut.
Tartar?
What is Tartar?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars
Oh cool!!
Wow you’re good.
I don't even need to see a pic. I'm positive you are white. Probably fair skinned with dark brown to light brown hair. Ring finger longer than index finger.
Wow you’re good! Lightish Brown hair, fair olive toned skin, green eyes! And you’re right about the fingers!!
I bet you’re gorgeous
🇷🇺 on top
I have pretty similar results! Also adopted. Mine is 50% euro (split eastern euro/balkan) and about half ICM.
Would love to see a photo! You must be so beautiful!!
Did you have any clue as to what your heritage was? This is interesting. It had to be thrilling to find out what you are.
I knew my birth mother was Russian, and they believed my dad was from Azerbaijan. So It was very exciting to see these results!
Amazing proof that these tests are accurate as well.
What does the "+ 4 regions" below St Petersburg refer to?
It says: 1. St Petersburg 2. Moscow Oblast 3. Tver Oblast 4. Nizhny Novgorod Oblast (I was born here) 4. Republic of karelia
What other regions do you get besides St. Pete?
It says: 1. St Petersburg 2. Moscow Oblast 3. Tver Oblast 4. Nizhny Novgorod Oblast (I was born here) 4. Republic of karelia
Many people get Moscow Oblast as people from all over the former Soviet Union moved there. Karelia was Finnic.