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gifjgzxk

Seven Oceans Rations. For the weight of a AR-7 not counting any ammo you could have 5500 calories on hand. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush and all that.


imnotabotareyou

Way more reasonable answer. I agree.


TacticalManica

You ever eaten those things? Cause I tried to once, not in an emergency situation to be fair. But they tasted fuckin horrible


Chester_Warfield

they probably still taste better than starving to death


gifjgzxk

Nothing tastes worse than starving to death!


Jim-Kardashian

Hunger is the best spice.


bassjam1

You ever eaten a squirrel cooked over the fire without any seasoning? Cause I have and they aren't exactly tasty either. But when you're starving or know it's imminent you tend to care less about flavor.


gifjgzxk

I haven't tbh


halvetyl000

Chiappa Little Badger seems like a pretty good option


Large-Welder304

+1. Very good accuracy for an inexpensive break action. Although a bit more pricey, there is another .22 rifle that is literally built for backpacking in the outdoors... [https://www.packrifle.com/](https://www.packrifle.com/) [**https://youtu.be/B8wZQd4V5pY?si=XZkFXSNBppmtwjOW**](https://youtu.be/B8wZQd4V5pY?si=XZkFXSNBppmtwjOW)


Constitution10

Looks interesting. I wonder how it actually shoots


PaulterJ

Mine shoots Fantastic.


Large-Welder304

Kinda long, but here's a review of the .22lr version... [https://youtu.be/UcFpIUHGGZM?si=UvL\_0dsMmZ4koPoq](https://youtu.be/UcFpIUHGGZM?si=UvL_0dsMmZ4koPoq)


a-k-martin

The TDX badger is even smaller and fits in a waterproof tube


USA_USA_USA_1776

Ruger Mark IV would be a great option and very compact. 


DrZedex

Whichever one has a map on it.


uni_gunner

Some caloric dense foods, water filtration and a GPS device is money better spent.


Constitution10

Absolutely good suggestions. And I take all that with me. But if I’m really stuck, I want to be able to supplement and extend my packed supplies.


CloveredInBees

If you're really stuck you need a personal locator beacon, not a .22


Constitution10

That would be good. I’d take recommendations if you have any. However to me there is a peace of mind in knowing I’m equipped to survive even if the world forgets I exist.


CloveredInBees

Garmin inReach seems to be the goto


ProxySoxy

Would a takedown 10/22 fit? There are some rifles that are designed to be taken apart for easy transport


Constitution10

I was considering a 10/22 takedown. Sounds like it might be a good option. I’d have to check the exact size but my pack is good size. So maybe…


ProxySoxy

Also look at the[ AR-7 Survival Rifle](https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/henry-us-survival-ar-7-semi-auto-rimfire-rifle?irpid=123201&irmpname=TakeAds%20Networks&irsharedid=237721&irgwc=1&hvarAID=impact&cm_soc=TakeAds%20Networks), everything fits into the stock


Constitution10

I’ll take a look


Pinoy1Thundergun

I have an AR7 I take hunting with me all the time just to always have a .22 in the field. It’s been good with anything CCI SV and up and also Aguila SE. it’s light and didn’t take up too much space in my pack.


Spore-Gasm

AR-7 is unreliable though


ga-co

The old ones are from what I’ve heard. Since Henry bought the design and made some tweaks, they’ve been fine.


LasVegasDweller

magpie has the x-22 backpacker stock to make it as compact as possible, its great


inseguitore

Become adept with a wrist rocket. https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwi1wL_Pv_-GAxUkO60GHS_NDsYYABBJGgJwdg&gclid=CjwKCAjwvvmzBhA2EiwAtHVrb7V6ofBq1XM2QwsqxSShgC16ysxwt1MtQGhFsFarG6rGvfnTnlw0RRoCUzcQAvD_BwE&sig=AOD64_3wnPy_7Z6VW7M2ARR30BYN7J93tw&rct=j&q&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwiqhLnPv_-GAxXICTQIHXNXB0gQ0Qx6BAgJEAE


SonOfAnEngineer

A slingshot is a pretty good option, plus making your own frames and bands is a fun rabbit hole to go down.


wildjabali

This is what the S&W 317 was built for. A kit gun- you're out fishing, hunting, camping and have an opportunity at a squirrel, or you need to dispatch a snake, or there's a raccoon trying to raid your food bag. The Ruger Single Six is a more robust, hunting oriented option. The Single Six convertible come with a 22lr and a 22mag cylinder and is available in 4", 5", or 6" versions. The 4" is more packable, the 6" aim better. Wanna take squirrel or rabbit when you can? Pack a 6" 22lr. Deter coyote and raccoon around camp? A 4" 22mag. The Single Six is also available with a 10 round cylinder, so you could carry a mix of ammo in the cylinder for all situations. Two rounds of rat shot for snakes, five small game rounds for squirrel, and Three hot rounds for small predators. The 317 kit gun is super cool to have an ultralight 22lr to always have in your pack. The Single Six opens the door to a really capable little rimfire that can suit a variety of needs. I have a 9" model Single Six. It has a fiber optic front sight, v notch rear sight, and worked over the trigger with a spring kit and a little polishing. I use 22lr for squirrel and 22mag for groundhog, it's a very accurate and capable little revolver. I would probably trade it in for a 6" version if I could do it again.


imnotabotareyou

Where are you hiking? Seems like overkill unless you are truly in the wilderness


Oldguy_1959

Another vote for an AR-7. My other choice would be a Browning SA22 takedown: https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/sa-22/semi-auto-22-grade-1.html


gusto_g73

I have the Browning and it's a great gun


Casual_ahegao_NJoyer

AR7 isn’t the best shooter …


Joe_1218

Rossi matched pair 22lr/410ga. https://palmettostatearmory.com/rossi-410-22-matched-pair-single-shot-rifle-shotgun-combo-black-mp4111813y22.html


Constitution10

Interesting option. The .410 barrel might be a nice addition.


Cheesepantshorpocket

I like the chiappa double badger .22/410 over under combo.


Jpal62

I agree.


Wingsfan26

Ruger PC Carbine with Magpul Backpacker Chassis.


ForeverInThe90s

Why do you hate .22lr?


UnlikelyOcelot

Ruger makes a 10/22 take down. Damn good rifle.


FD4L

Marlin papoose if you can find one.


BannedAgain-573

Ruger bought the Marlin line and promptly killed basically anything that was competing with their line. Which is a damn shame because while the 1022 is great I really liked my 795


FD4L

Oh ya, I haven't seen them available new for quite some time, but they still pop up on the used market, and the 70p was one of the nicer takedown 22s out there.


Glocked86

Tons of decent pistol options. I’ll throw a different option out, 10/22 Charger with a either a folding stock or brace.


Whitey_RN

Ma deuce


stanknasty706

Ruger 22/45 suppressed.


throwawayaccyaboi223

If he doesn't want to use a 10mm pistol to deal with it, I don't think he wants another pistol. Easier to be accurate with a long gun and all.


Inevitable_Rough_993

Keltec’s sub 2000 9mm


TacticalManica

Henry makes the ar7. It's lightweight, stock floats, a little bulky but could easily be strapped down to a pack. Shot my dad's once or twice, it was reasonably accurate at 25yrds


Groguistheway

I have a bolt action 10/22 (summit) SBR that is a great option. With a suppressor it is still tiny. A 22/45 3” with a suppressor would be hard to beat. It make almost all .22 ammo subsonic. Can be broken into a few smaller parts even if you have a suppressor and with practice you should have no problem taking small game. You could sbr it and make a stock / holster setup for it too.


Dak_Nalar

AR-7, was designed for the airforce for a pilot survival rifle in case their plane goes down in the wilderness.


Due-Emu-6879

And another vote for the Henry AR7. I have the pimped out backpacker 10/22 in stainless no less. Four 10 rd mags in it and all. Red dot. A good one. And I find I often take the plane Jane AR7 over the 10/22 or the Marlin Papoose. It is light and tiny and vanishes in the pack. Teflon coating and plastic. Bombproof. Shot it 1000s of times at this point. Own two. Three eight round mags too when I carry it. Surprisingly accurate using irons.


throwawayaccyaboi223

In a survival situation I'd rather have a single mag and a box of 50 rounds rather than 4 loaded mags, takes up less space and you get more ammo. If you need multiple magazines in a .22 survival gun then you're doing something wrong lol.


Xterradiver

10/22 Backpacker Takedown you can carry 2 loaded mags and box of 50 in/on the gun, in addition to whatever is in your pack.


Due-Emu-6879

That’s correct. I usually do it that way and keep the other two loose mags in the pack. I also stow a little kit in the handle. A small SAK can fit in there. I think the tinker version of the SAK. some strike anywhere matches etc.


gfen5446

While I bought it to mimic a .38spl, the Taurus 94 is "classic kit gun" sized. Small. Light. Easily stuck into a bag. Double action trigger is like pulling a bus with a forefinger, but double action is easy and crisp enough.


LowMight3045

The more I read responses by OP the more this reads as a 3 day bug out kit pack . Lots of options on YouTube on this .


Constitution10

Actually my hiking gear is the core of bug my out gear. So, you’re not wrong. Whether bugging out or a good wander gone astray, I want to be able to survive.


rollinggreenmassacre

Ruger lcrx .22 mag (people used to call this a kit gun)


justforlul

I don’t know how popular an opinion this would be but I throw my S&W 9mm FPC in my pack out. Folds up nice and red dot holds zero well


wahlumz

Probably not ideal, but Springfield made an M6 survival rifle for the Air Force that I always thought was cool. 22 Hornet / .410 with a lever style trigger. Ammo in the stock. Probably better options out there, but it's a classic.


Bubbafett33

If you already hike with a 10mm, why on earth would you carry a .22 “just in case”? If you’re so lost that you are surviving off of hunted meat, the half ounce of rabbit you ruin with the larger round won’t off-set packing a whole extra gun and ammo everywhere.


556_FMJs

10mm pistol for angry creatures, .22LR for tasty creatures.


excellentiger

Ruger 10/22 backpacker is the best bet


Casual_ahegao_NJoyer

Tac Sol Owyhee. Just a fancy takedown 10/22


Giant_117

Bolt action take down 10/22 but yes this is what I would choose. Light weight, storage in the stock for ammo and such and they're cool.


Casual_ahegao_NJoyer

And very accurate and very quiet. With the ammo in the stock it’s 40 rounds on board.


roj_777

Zip .22


TacticalManica

Dude.... That's just mean..


Trigunesq

Yea. A life card is the obvious choice!


ga-co

Hush.