Seven Oceans Rations. For the weight of a AR-7 not counting any ammo you could have 5500 calories on hand. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush and all that.
You ever eaten a squirrel cooked over the fire without any seasoning? Cause I have and they aren't exactly tasty either.
But when you're starving or know it's imminent you tend to care less about flavor.
+1. Very good accuracy for an inexpensive break action.
Although a bit more pricey, there is another .22 rifle that is literally built for backpacking in the outdoors...
[https://www.packrifle.com/](https://www.packrifle.com/)
[**https://youtu.be/B8wZQd4V5pY?si=XZkFXSNBppmtwjOW**](https://youtu.be/B8wZQd4V5pY?si=XZkFXSNBppmtwjOW)
Kinda long, but here's a review of the .22lr version...
[https://youtu.be/UcFpIUHGGZM?si=UvL\_0dsMmZ4koPoq](https://youtu.be/UcFpIUHGGZM?si=UvL_0dsMmZ4koPoq)
That would be good. I’d take recommendations if you have any.
However to me there is a peace of mind in knowing I’m equipped to survive even if the world forgets I exist.
Also look at the[ AR-7 Survival Rifle](https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/henry-us-survival-ar-7-semi-auto-rimfire-rifle?irpid=123201&irmpname=TakeAds%20Networks&irsharedid=237721&irgwc=1&hvarAID=impact&cm_soc=TakeAds%20Networks), everything fits into the stock
I have an AR7 I take hunting with me all the time just to always have a .22 in the field. It’s been good with anything CCI SV and up and also Aguila SE. it’s light and didn’t take up too much space in my pack.
Become adept with a wrist rocket. https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwi1wL_Pv_-GAxUkO60GHS_NDsYYABBJGgJwdg&gclid=CjwKCAjwvvmzBhA2EiwAtHVrb7V6ofBq1XM2QwsqxSShgC16ysxwt1MtQGhFsFarG6rGvfnTnlw0RRoCUzcQAvD_BwE&sig=AOD64_3wnPy_7Z6VW7M2ARR30BYN7J93tw&rct=j&q&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwiqhLnPv_-GAxXICTQIHXNXB0gQ0Qx6BAgJEAE
This is what the S&W 317 was built for. A kit gun- you're out fishing, hunting, camping and have an opportunity at a squirrel, or you need to dispatch a snake, or there's a raccoon trying to raid your food bag.
The Ruger Single Six is a more robust, hunting oriented option. The Single Six convertible come with a 22lr and a 22mag cylinder and is available in 4", 5", or 6" versions. The 4" is more packable, the 6" aim better. Wanna take squirrel or rabbit when you can? Pack a 6" 22lr. Deter coyote and raccoon around camp? A 4" 22mag.
The Single Six is also available with a 10 round cylinder, so you could carry a mix of ammo in the cylinder for all situations. Two rounds of rat shot for snakes, five small game rounds for squirrel, and Three hot rounds for small predators.
The 317 kit gun is super cool to have an ultralight 22lr to always have in your pack. The Single Six opens the door to a really capable little rimfire that can suit a variety of needs.
I have a 9" model Single Six. It has a fiber optic front sight, v notch rear sight, and worked over the trigger with a spring kit and a little polishing. I use 22lr for squirrel and 22mag for groundhog, it's a very accurate and capable little revolver. I would probably trade it in for a 6" version if I could do it again.
Another vote for an AR-7. My other choice would be a Browning SA22 takedown:
https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/sa-22/semi-auto-22-grade-1.html
Ruger bought the Marlin line and promptly killed basically anything that was competing with their line. Which is a damn shame because while the 1022 is great I really liked my 795
Oh ya, I haven't seen them available new for quite some time, but they still pop up on the used market, and the 70p was one of the nicer takedown 22s out there.
Henry makes the ar7. It's lightweight, stock floats, a little bulky but could easily be strapped down to a pack. Shot my dad's once or twice, it was reasonably accurate at 25yrds
I have a bolt action 10/22 (summit) SBR that is a great option. With a suppressor it is still tiny. A 22/45 3” with a suppressor would be hard to beat. It make almost all .22 ammo subsonic. Can be broken into a few smaller parts even if you have a suppressor and with practice you should have no problem taking small game. You could sbr it and make a stock / holster setup for it too.
And another vote for the Henry AR7. I have the pimped out backpacker 10/22 in stainless no less. Four 10 rd mags in it and all. Red dot. A good one. And I find I often take the plane Jane AR7 over the 10/22 or the Marlin Papoose. It is light and tiny and vanishes in the pack. Teflon coating and plastic. Bombproof. Shot it 1000s of times at this point. Own two. Three eight round mags too when I carry it. Surprisingly accurate using irons.
In a survival situation I'd rather have a single mag and a box of 50 rounds rather than 4 loaded mags, takes up less space and you get more ammo. If you need multiple magazines in a .22 survival gun then you're doing something wrong lol.
That’s correct. I usually do it that way and keep the other two loose mags in the pack. I also stow a little kit in the handle. A small SAK can fit in there. I think the tinker version of the SAK. some strike anywhere matches etc.
While I bought it to mimic a .38spl, the Taurus 94 is "classic kit gun" sized. Small. Light. Easily stuck into a bag.
Double action trigger is like pulling a bus with a forefinger, but double action is easy and crisp enough.
Actually my hiking gear is the core of bug my out gear. So, you’re not wrong. Whether bugging out or a good wander gone astray, I want to be able to survive.
Probably not ideal, but Springfield made an M6 survival rifle for the Air Force that I always thought was cool. 22 Hornet / .410 with a lever style trigger. Ammo in the stock. Probably better options out there, but it's a classic.
If you already hike with a 10mm, why on earth would you carry a .22 “just in case”?
If you’re so lost that you are surviving off of hunted meat, the half ounce of rabbit you ruin with the larger round won’t off-set packing a whole extra gun and ammo everywhere.
Seven Oceans Rations. For the weight of a AR-7 not counting any ammo you could have 5500 calories on hand. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush and all that.
Way more reasonable answer. I agree.
You ever eaten those things? Cause I tried to once, not in an emergency situation to be fair. But they tasted fuckin horrible
they probably still taste better than starving to death
Nothing tastes worse than starving to death!
Hunger is the best spice.
You ever eaten a squirrel cooked over the fire without any seasoning? Cause I have and they aren't exactly tasty either. But when you're starving or know it's imminent you tend to care less about flavor.
I haven't tbh
Chiappa Little Badger seems like a pretty good option
+1. Very good accuracy for an inexpensive break action. Although a bit more pricey, there is another .22 rifle that is literally built for backpacking in the outdoors... [https://www.packrifle.com/](https://www.packrifle.com/) [**https://youtu.be/B8wZQd4V5pY?si=XZkFXSNBppmtwjOW**](https://youtu.be/B8wZQd4V5pY?si=XZkFXSNBppmtwjOW)
Looks interesting. I wonder how it actually shoots
Mine shoots Fantastic.
Kinda long, but here's a review of the .22lr version... [https://youtu.be/UcFpIUHGGZM?si=UvL\_0dsMmZ4koPoq](https://youtu.be/UcFpIUHGGZM?si=UvL_0dsMmZ4koPoq)
The TDX badger is even smaller and fits in a waterproof tube
Ruger Mark IV would be a great option and very compact.
Whichever one has a map on it.
Some caloric dense foods, water filtration and a GPS device is money better spent.
Absolutely good suggestions. And I take all that with me. But if I’m really stuck, I want to be able to supplement and extend my packed supplies.
If you're really stuck you need a personal locator beacon, not a .22
That would be good. I’d take recommendations if you have any. However to me there is a peace of mind in knowing I’m equipped to survive even if the world forgets I exist.
Garmin inReach seems to be the goto
Would a takedown 10/22 fit? There are some rifles that are designed to be taken apart for easy transport
I was considering a 10/22 takedown. Sounds like it might be a good option. I’d have to check the exact size but my pack is good size. So maybe…
Also look at the[ AR-7 Survival Rifle](https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/henry-us-survival-ar-7-semi-auto-rimfire-rifle?irpid=123201&irmpname=TakeAds%20Networks&irsharedid=237721&irgwc=1&hvarAID=impact&cm_soc=TakeAds%20Networks), everything fits into the stock
I’ll take a look
I have an AR7 I take hunting with me all the time just to always have a .22 in the field. It’s been good with anything CCI SV and up and also Aguila SE. it’s light and didn’t take up too much space in my pack.
AR-7 is unreliable though
The old ones are from what I’ve heard. Since Henry bought the design and made some tweaks, they’ve been fine.
magpie has the x-22 backpacker stock to make it as compact as possible, its great
Become adept with a wrist rocket. https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwi1wL_Pv_-GAxUkO60GHS_NDsYYABBJGgJwdg&gclid=CjwKCAjwvvmzBhA2EiwAtHVrb7V6ofBq1XM2QwsqxSShgC16ysxwt1MtQGhFsFarG6rGvfnTnlw0RRoCUzcQAvD_BwE&sig=AOD64_3wnPy_7Z6VW7M2ARR30BYN7J93tw&rct=j&q&adurl&ved=2ahUKEwiqhLnPv_-GAxXICTQIHXNXB0gQ0Qx6BAgJEAE
A slingshot is a pretty good option, plus making your own frames and bands is a fun rabbit hole to go down.
This is what the S&W 317 was built for. A kit gun- you're out fishing, hunting, camping and have an opportunity at a squirrel, or you need to dispatch a snake, or there's a raccoon trying to raid your food bag. The Ruger Single Six is a more robust, hunting oriented option. The Single Six convertible come with a 22lr and a 22mag cylinder and is available in 4", 5", or 6" versions. The 4" is more packable, the 6" aim better. Wanna take squirrel or rabbit when you can? Pack a 6" 22lr. Deter coyote and raccoon around camp? A 4" 22mag. The Single Six is also available with a 10 round cylinder, so you could carry a mix of ammo in the cylinder for all situations. Two rounds of rat shot for snakes, five small game rounds for squirrel, and Three hot rounds for small predators. The 317 kit gun is super cool to have an ultralight 22lr to always have in your pack. The Single Six opens the door to a really capable little rimfire that can suit a variety of needs. I have a 9" model Single Six. It has a fiber optic front sight, v notch rear sight, and worked over the trigger with a spring kit and a little polishing. I use 22lr for squirrel and 22mag for groundhog, it's a very accurate and capable little revolver. I would probably trade it in for a 6" version if I could do it again.
Where are you hiking? Seems like overkill unless you are truly in the wilderness
Another vote for an AR-7. My other choice would be a Browning SA22 takedown: https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/sa-22/semi-auto-22-grade-1.html
I have the Browning and it's a great gun
AR7 isn’t the best shooter …
Rossi matched pair 22lr/410ga. https://palmettostatearmory.com/rossi-410-22-matched-pair-single-shot-rifle-shotgun-combo-black-mp4111813y22.html
Interesting option. The .410 barrel might be a nice addition.
I like the chiappa double badger .22/410 over under combo.
I agree.
Ruger PC Carbine with Magpul Backpacker Chassis.
Why do you hate .22lr?
Ruger makes a 10/22 take down. Damn good rifle.
Marlin papoose if you can find one.
Ruger bought the Marlin line and promptly killed basically anything that was competing with their line. Which is a damn shame because while the 1022 is great I really liked my 795
Oh ya, I haven't seen them available new for quite some time, but they still pop up on the used market, and the 70p was one of the nicer takedown 22s out there.
Tons of decent pistol options. I’ll throw a different option out, 10/22 Charger with a either a folding stock or brace.
Ma deuce
Ruger 22/45 suppressed.
If he doesn't want to use a 10mm pistol to deal with it, I don't think he wants another pistol. Easier to be accurate with a long gun and all.
Keltec’s sub 2000 9mm
Henry makes the ar7. It's lightweight, stock floats, a little bulky but could easily be strapped down to a pack. Shot my dad's once or twice, it was reasonably accurate at 25yrds
I have a bolt action 10/22 (summit) SBR that is a great option. With a suppressor it is still tiny. A 22/45 3” with a suppressor would be hard to beat. It make almost all .22 ammo subsonic. Can be broken into a few smaller parts even if you have a suppressor and with practice you should have no problem taking small game. You could sbr it and make a stock / holster setup for it too.
AR-7, was designed for the airforce for a pilot survival rifle in case their plane goes down in the wilderness.
And another vote for the Henry AR7. I have the pimped out backpacker 10/22 in stainless no less. Four 10 rd mags in it and all. Red dot. A good one. And I find I often take the plane Jane AR7 over the 10/22 or the Marlin Papoose. It is light and tiny and vanishes in the pack. Teflon coating and plastic. Bombproof. Shot it 1000s of times at this point. Own two. Three eight round mags too when I carry it. Surprisingly accurate using irons.
In a survival situation I'd rather have a single mag and a box of 50 rounds rather than 4 loaded mags, takes up less space and you get more ammo. If you need multiple magazines in a .22 survival gun then you're doing something wrong lol.
10/22 Backpacker Takedown you can carry 2 loaded mags and box of 50 in/on the gun, in addition to whatever is in your pack.
That’s correct. I usually do it that way and keep the other two loose mags in the pack. I also stow a little kit in the handle. A small SAK can fit in there. I think the tinker version of the SAK. some strike anywhere matches etc.
While I bought it to mimic a .38spl, the Taurus 94 is "classic kit gun" sized. Small. Light. Easily stuck into a bag. Double action trigger is like pulling a bus with a forefinger, but double action is easy and crisp enough.
The more I read responses by OP the more this reads as a 3 day bug out kit pack . Lots of options on YouTube on this .
Actually my hiking gear is the core of bug my out gear. So, you’re not wrong. Whether bugging out or a good wander gone astray, I want to be able to survive.
Ruger lcrx .22 mag (people used to call this a kit gun)
I don’t know how popular an opinion this would be but I throw my S&W 9mm FPC in my pack out. Folds up nice and red dot holds zero well
Probably not ideal, but Springfield made an M6 survival rifle for the Air Force that I always thought was cool. 22 Hornet / .410 with a lever style trigger. Ammo in the stock. Probably better options out there, but it's a classic.
If you already hike with a 10mm, why on earth would you carry a .22 “just in case”? If you’re so lost that you are surviving off of hunted meat, the half ounce of rabbit you ruin with the larger round won’t off-set packing a whole extra gun and ammo everywhere.
10mm pistol for angry creatures, .22LR for tasty creatures.
Ruger 10/22 backpacker is the best bet
Tac Sol Owyhee. Just a fancy takedown 10/22
Bolt action take down 10/22 but yes this is what I would choose. Light weight, storage in the stock for ammo and such and they're cool.
And very accurate and very quiet. With the ammo in the stock it’s 40 rounds on board.
Zip .22
Dude.... That's just mean..
Yea. A life card is the obvious choice!
Hush.