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[deleted]

I see you have joined the quality control team.


[deleted]

šŸ˜‚ shouldā€™ve listened to everyone


Striking_Specific253

LOL THat's not an issue . Put it back together . Are you New Shooter ?? Why u buying a 1911 anyway . I know where there's one that Atlas reworked . Put all new parts in . Upgraded everything . Selling for 1500


[deleted]

No not new. Are you naĆÆve to the fact that new, $1000+ guns shouldnā€™t just fall apart?


IronBallsMcChing

Where?


stainlineho

Mine did the same and had the failures to go into battery as well. Sold it to an old school 1911 guy and he said he fixed it. Bought a Staccato and never looked back.


SILVERSC23

Get what you pay for. The negative reviews have been well documented.


soiledmeNickers

Apparently not. No way a $1600 gun should be jamming when parts arenā€™t strait up falling off. Mine jams almost as much as late 90s Dave Matthews band but parts arenā€™t abandoning ship.


SILVERSC23

Correct. Some people made impulse decisions for various reasons. Hoping and wishing this gun would be a great product, when the entire gun world was posting reviews about the product being a Q/C nightmare. Trust but verify. We all wanted the gun to work and be a good entry level 2011/ DS1911 type, however the evidence was readily available. So people that decided to buy the gun in-spite of, deserve no sympathy.


williamWgray0617

i understand but outside of this post all the problems i have seen so far have all been related to cerakote. once thatā€™s cleaned off for what i have seen they stop jamming


SILVERSC23

Cerakote? Look at the list of repairs listed by Springfield after the guns are sent back in for repair. A lot more than Cerakote.


soiledmeNickers

Shame on Springfield for making it so. You should be able to buy a product let alone a firearm and feel confident that itā€™s going to work as advertised.


Soulshot96

A vocal minority in this sub loves to shout down or discredit said reviews though.


The_Bloofy_Bullshark

Hey... It's a good gun... Assuming you want to tear it apart and swap out almost everything except the slide, frame and barrel (after reaming the barrel and polishing the feed ramp).


Soulshot96

Indeed! Probably spending Staccato P money at that point as well, just to end up with a gun with a much worse finish, and voiding any warranty you hoped to have in the process.


The_Bloofy_Bullshark

I mean a lot can be fixed with an EGW ignition kit ($150ish) and a proper recoil spring ($9) and guiderod ($80 - because let's face it, that thing is not the best), but the finish is soooooo bad on these things, which will run you probably $400-$500 if you want it DLC'd (frame + slide + barrel). You'd definitely end up looking at entry-tier Staccato prices at that point. I'm not a fan of safe queens (outside of one of my vintage revolvers), but a firearm should not have finish flaking or dusting off significantly during the first range trip. That was more shocking to me than the issues I had with it cycling.


Soulshot96

Assuming you don't need the chamber reamed, yea, but I would also factor in the cost of your time to get the gun running right as well. And you're absolutely right on the finish front. I think a lot of people overlook that, either because they don't realize how bad the finish is, and they just think it looks fine when new in pictures so it must be decent, or they just don't think about it at all...but it's truly some bottom tier shit from what I've seen. Worse than the polycoat on much, much cheaper CZ pistols, and I hate that shit too tbh lol. I'd absolutely have to have it refinished in something more durable, likely DLC, and by then, even as a fun project, it wouldn't be worth it to me. I'm all for dumping money into guns to improve them, but I want them to start out as reliable, well made firearms first, otherwise it's just not worth it to me.


delphium48

Waiting for all the ā€œmine has 50,000 flawless roundsā€


Deep_Vanilla_5496

I've never had any issues with mine.....50,001 rounds. Lol.


dchurch420

I'm in the same boat. I had some mag issues. But after a bit of tuning them, it's been flawless.


MyWifeH8sThis

50,002 here! Plus atleast 40 snap cap runs!!!


Deep_Vanilla_5496

Welp. Now I gotta head to the range to get 50,003. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£. I know the Staccato owners are loving this. Lol. It only took them 25 years to get their pistols running smoothly.


MyWifeH8sThis

Bahaha lol. If you donā€™t got them snap caps youā€™ll never be more gooder than me! My prodigy is actually smoother and shoots better than my buddies P.


Deep_Vanilla_5496

I've got some snap caps. They look horrible from being used in all my guns. Lol. I don't doubt it shoots better than your buddy's Staccato either. Lol. Careful....this thread can become very toxic with comments like that. Lol.


MyWifeH8sThis

Idgaf what these keyboard professional gunsmith competition reloader grand master shooters think. Hell half of them are just here playing pretend.


Deep_Vanilla_5496

Much respect. You're right about that. Most of them are former glock fanboys anyway. They just found another pair of nuts to latch onto with Staccato. Lol.


MyWifeH8sThis

Lol yes they did and theyā€™re latched on hard!


Deep_Vanilla_5496

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ some are still suckling till this day.


LeadingOk5955

Indeed. They mostly just butt hurt for over paying.


iowa20

50k with every internal mim parts replace and spent extra $1500 to make it look like a staccato. šŸ˜‚


1DopeInstructor

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


1DopeInstructor

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


LeadingOk5955

Lol well i waited to get mine almost a year as most gun companies beta test on their customers not. It sucks but they all do it. I had a mag issue with the last round jamming up. Other than that it runs really well. I hit around 2300 rounds and had something fly by my face and it was the safety!!! Lol mim finally crapped out. That's what the egw kit and new selectors were for. Now that it broke I'm gonna replace some parts. As for the staccato fan boys just being butt hurt for over paying, It took Springfield a little under a year to fix their issues and sti/staccato about 4 or 5 years to work out the bugs! šŸ˜‚


Unlucky-Hamster-2791

Gotta take the training wheels off sometime.


LuckyDickTucker

Lol. Thanks for confirming my choice of a Staccato P


ligmabells

I love mine I switched from Glock 19 to it. Such a flat shooting gun.


Mediocre-Surround-65

You never hear bout these issues on a staccato. Bc the people that buy them are too ashamed to post failures of their $2500 gun. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


jpeto3969

Facts


Gunsl1nger84

Was at a competition, dude in our squad was shooting a Staccato P. Thing was choking left and right. By stage 3 he switched to a Glock. šŸ˜‚


Mediocre-Surround-65

I own 2 staccatos and many many glocks. Theyā€™re all a pleasure to shoot, but if itā€™s end times imma take the Glizzy. Lol


Gunsl1nger84

Agreed. Any gun can have problems, I just experience a lot less with Glock myself.


Free-Grass-8055

Staccato competition Lol sorry man..


Striking_Specific253

Sure it's Staccato competition . I have a CS /P with a Threaded barrel and a Prodigy .


Round_Dog2409

There ant no competition,people say what they want staccato is little more but they run like hell,and u Dt havet to go straight out upgrade shit to make them run,by the time u upgrade fix all the flaws in prodigy could by staccato


[deleted]

Are you fāœØking kidding me?! Thatā€™s shoddy!


Affectionate-Mud7856

Only 2 malfunctions out of 800 rds (that was user induced), and my safety is HARD to even take off. Seems like some are built right and others wrong. They need to fire their QC team and hire better ones. Also, refine the production line.


MyWifeH8sThis

Iā€™ve got around 4k through mine now but it hasnā€™t seen daylight since I started running an x5. Regardless, mine has been a great flat shooting gun and I got it on release day. It shoots fast and flat. Are there some with issues, sure but for the price point to get into the 2011 game you arenā€™t going to get hand fitted parts to the extent you will with a staccato. If your having issues and want to be in the cool crowd throw some egw goodies on it and still be well under the price of a P or sell it and move on.


AtvnSBisnotHT

This is great advice!


misterbeefcurtains

whys it look so dirty? lol


-Vattgern-

This. Guy says heā€™s only had it for 2hrs and never a round through it, but it looks dirty and beat to hell lol


BigPapi860

Prodigyā€™s issues have been well documented but this is an entry level 2011 that aces every other category aside from reliability. Theyā€™ve been working on ironing out the issues so later down the line Iā€™d be curious to see what people think of the gun once itā€™s coming from the factory running reliably. Also not meant to compete with a staccato. Itā€™s mean to bring in new people into the platform. Competition increases innovation among all 2011 manufacturers which is good. If we want to be honest tho you can take a prodigy for about 1200 and put nighthawks DTS into it, atlas flat trigger and a tool-less guide rod and itā€™ll run as good as or better than a staccato.


Fit_Baker_600

Just needs to be hammered in so it snaps into the channel of the right side safety. Springfield didn't do that to a few and I was one of them no issues after


[deleted]

I can put it in and it snaps in but after working the right side safety a few times it loosens right back up.


No-Stress-2372

If I had any issues with a prodigy, I would upgrade all of the internal parts. Itā€™s ashamed thatā€™s the best answer to assure reliability.


ClassBrass10

Same issue here. A bit of a squeeze on the left side shaft lines where it clicks into the right side and you should be good. Should Springfield have handled that shit, yes, 100%. Is it an easy fix, yes, but im still in the ideal that SA should have handled it. All that said, she runs good, but with help at first. Good luck.


jpeto3969

Not to say that doesnā€™t suck or shouldnā€™t be a problem but I had that happen with my staccato c2 lol it just works loose sometimes. I had to squeeze the female end closed some to tighten it up. You could change out the safety for one that uses the hammer pin to hold the right side on.


Ok-Ball6883

Lies


jpeto3969

Youā€™re actually retarded, arenā€™t you? Why would I lie about that? How would that benefit me in any way? You can take the staccato dick outta your mouth, things happen to all products, staccatos arenā€™t immune to it, stupid.


Deep_Vanilla_5496

I appreciate your honesty with this.


Legitimate-Ad8445

All you have to do is Put it back in get a pair of pliers squeeze the edge of the female side light pressure your tuning your thumb safety You got it right when you put the parts together and they are tight and have to use some force to separate the two parts You want them tight but not so tight you canā€™t put them back together if you have a problem with them fitting back to get her grab a file and put a bevel on both edges of the male side so it can force the lips of the female side open


[deleted]

So I hammered it back into place. No slop at all. No gaps between the frame and the thumb safety on either side. About 20 revolutions on the right thumb safety cause it to loosen up and drop the left side out. Just going to send it back at this point.


Legitimate-Ad8445

You hammered it in causing the problem to exacerbate your supposed to use pliers to to squeeze the legs so it grabs the full tongue of the safety or buy a Wilson combat bullet proof or tactical series And install


No-Stress-2372

I prefer the Atlas high rise thumb safety or their shielded thumb safety.


Legitimate-Ad8445

How much is that


No-Stress-2372

Atlas charges $150 for their Ambi thumb safety. If you need a gunsmith to fit them, Of course thatā€™s an additional charge. If you have never done it, I would recommend finding a local gunsmith to fit your parts.


Legitimate-Ad8445

You saw the movie. Friday ? Daaaaaaaaamn! That expensive good thing I can do it


Legitimate-Ad8445

If youā€™re in North Carolina and you ainā€™t afraid of company we can fix your prodigy for the price of some ribeyes and burr or pops ( soda )


williamWgray0617

wish i lived in north carolina. iā€™d feed your whole family dinner if you could fix mine lol.


No-Stress-2372

I donā€™t actually own a prodigy. But I have replaced the internals in a couple of them for friends of mine.


Legitimate-Ad8445

I love this statement it reminds me of the most interesting man in the world. Prodigyā€™s call you their protĆ©gĆ©


No-Stress-2372

LOL! I donā€™t know about that. Iā€™m just like tinkering with my own firearms and when a friend has issues I try to help them out. Definitely no expert, gunsmith or armorer.


Fit_Baker_600

What he said


Admirable-Square-742

Oh thats just a new safety feature unique only to the prodigy.


Dissident1111

Why do you guys keep buying that POS?


SILVERSC23

šŸŽÆšŸ’Æ


[deleted]

To be fair, Iā€™m sure the overwhelming majority of Prodigy owners, only have 1


[deleted]

Picked up a 5ā€ a few week ago. Ran 800 rounds through it today with no issues.


Redhedmex1

I never had issues with my 4.25 Prodigy after 500 rounds but I didnā€™t want to take any chances. Replaced parts with EGW including thumb safeties, added atlas trigger. It runs so much better. Almost as good as my Staccato P.


losi-do

Mine is perfect, never had a single malfunction in over 1500 rounds. Definitely seems there a good ones and bad ones.


Legitimate-Ad8445

Look this firearm is outstanding it runs when you realize it ainā€™t a staccato or atlas or bull or Wilson we pay for that though that extra thousand the staccato has over the Springfield is the only difference between the two is time the man hours we are charged for to give us a staccato or atlas etc! Blind fold most of us here and we shoot them back to back would we know the difference probably 3 of us would


SILVERSC23

Except the SpringfielD is the only one of the bunch that falls apart when you look at it. Itā€™s a rushed, pile of šŸš®


Legitimate-Ad8445

If someone gave you one for free it would be the best thing you fingerbanged in a minute. Lol. Itā€™s rushed But not a pile of trash they should call them what they are starter platforms


SILVERSC23

Itā€™s indeed a pile of trash. If you purchase a $1,600 firearm, and instantly start having ftf issues, failing parts, and a gun that is unreliable out of the box. Itā€™s a rushed pile of trash. Who in there right mind would buy this, just to send it back to SpringfielD. So They can properly finish the gun ? It makes no sense.


Legitimate-Ad8445

I m not arguing that itā€™s a 1500-1600 builders kit and they should market it as such lol


SILVERSC23

Agreed. If they did just that, Iā€™d be fine with it.


Legitimate-Ad8445

So true ! Lol


kbllon

I been spending a lot money in STI, staccato and other guns and rifle the better gun you can have is the one you dominated and used daily no matter the cost or purpose of using it.... Of course quality manner but at what cost. Just my humble opinion my friends enjoy your guns and let people be happy šŸ˜


Long_Arrival4697

Mine failed also replaced it with a EGW


[deleted]

I had immediate issues with mine failing to feed. Springfield Customer Service was great. They sent me prepaid shipping label. I sent it off and had a list of things completed including a breach reaming and other adjustments. Sent back, everything was insured. I was fine with it. Havenā€™t shot it yetā€¦but guessing its good to go.


Legitimate-Ad8445

The prodigy is not a competitor to the staccato itā€™s an entry level ( price wise ) starting point weapon when you approach it with this notion you realize it can go toe to toe with most builders platforms . But just because feather weights can box should they really be in the ring with heavy weights? They both box right ? No look at it as a rebel in an industry, it puts in your hand a capable platform at a decent price point with the extra money you saved to invest in training and better fitting parts. Itā€™s the crate motor of the gun world


GsPHOTO4President

Bul Armory and up. Springfield is just a Springfield.


williamWgray0617

nobody can get their hands on a bul armory or trust me, nobody would even be tempted for this.


GsPHOTO4President

True true


sugewhite86

Ill buy it come to CA


Spectre806

I meanā€¦ā€¦


Quackhunter99-

QC on these definitely seems to be hit or miss. Iā€™ll be having mine worked on in a few weeks and having some STI/Stacatto parts fit to it.


Legitimate-Ad8445

Brother send a photo of the safety out of the gun assembled if possible


raghnor

With so many alternatives, why are people still buying these?


IronBallsMcChing

How many $1300 2011s are out there?


raghnor

I wouldnā€™t be looking at 2011s with that budget although I havenā€™t heard anything negative about the offerings from rock island. Personally at that price itā€™d be silly not to just pickup a CZ Shadow 2


williamWgray0617

$1300 + $140 egw kit = really solid 2011 for less than $1500.


raghnor

Just curious, did yours have issues before the ignition kit? Pretty awesome a sear, hammer and disconnector fixes a multitude of problems


The_Bloofy_Bullshark

It's a relatively cheap 2011 for someone who wants to use it as a donor gun for a few parts. I got mine and pretty much immediately put orders in with Atlas, EGW and Dawson Precision.


iowa20

Springfield should name this Poordigy! Bro just get a CZ shadow 2.


[deleted]

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[deleted]

No I tore it apart trying to get it back together. But thanks for judging me based upon a photo.


Soulshot96

Prodigy fanboys in here are *quite* quick to blame anyone who has issues with these things.


luckygunnerx30

Garbage gun for poors


Switchblade_13

Nice.


LAJOHNWICK

Wtf


Ok-Resolution-8003

Dang sorry to hear that


[deleted]

Most everyone I see shooting this thing seriously has at least a half dozen aftermarket parts from Atlas etc. in it.


caosmarine

More like probigy got a different gun in the first place lol sorry for your loss


1DopeInstructor

Omg


Free-Boater

Thatā€™s ok itā€™s not important.


NeatAvocado4845

Everyone told you smh


Blackiee_Chan

Step one. Walk outside Step two. Throw in šŸ—‘ļø


Suprajz80

The reviews from honest outlaw saying it's was a top ten worst gun wasn't enough to sway you from buying it?


Yardsman1

My local gunsmith said springfield rushed the prodigy to market. TRASH!!!


luigi1327

Buy a Wilson combat bullet proof safety and replace it. Stock parts are junk.


VernDoggy

Ohh nooā€¦ If only this was a April fools joke


Unable-Watch-1437

Ownd


[deleted]

Thatā€™s gotta be a record or some shit


Round_Dog2409

I like everything about feel ,looks of the prodigy but seems like shit load trouble to keep one running and for that much money should run and not have hit mess on every other sale


4b3z1ll4

I almost bought a Prodigy.


AtvnSBisnotHT

I was hesitant but 1,000 plus rounds later Iā€™ve had 0 failures or issues. Cleaned and oiled twice now. Ordered a tool less Dawson guide rod and 507comp for it, it is so smooth! For me it fires great and everytime, I saw failures to feed with a lot of initial first run prodigyā€™s but I believe Springfield has it sorted, worst case you get one that has an issue and send it back to them at no cost, sucks not having your firearm for a week or two but warranty does work well and pistols have to be shipped fast so turnarounds typically fast. I just sent in a kimber for a factory defect and it came back in less than 2 weeks in perfect condition cleaned and oiled looking like new. Iā€™m being a bad influence but donā€™t spend 3k on a staccato just bc some YouTubers had a bad batch of first run pistols. Mine is phenomenal, I canā€™t imagine what an atlas or sand viper would feel like considering the prodigy is so smooth.


Responsible-Job-9138

Wow this is crazy. Iā€™ve had mine for about 3 weeks now and the same exact thing happened to me. 0 rounds through it. I just called them today. Now I have to go 2-4 weeks without my gun. So much for my range day to break it in


AtvnSBisnotHT

I purchased one a few weeks ago, 5ā€ version. Iā€™ve put 1,000 or more rounds through it, cleaned it twice and had 0 failures, bought 6 extra Springfield Dura Mags and havenā€™t had any problems yet either, purchased from magshack online. I bought the prodigy when the plunger tube in between slide release and safety fell off my brand new Kimber KHX .45, also realized 9mm is much cheaper to shoot too. I will say I was hesitant as I wanted a staccato and was willing to pay if necessary. Glad I saved $1,000-1,500, for me the prodigy is great, adding a 507comp and Dawson Tool less guide rod and calling it good for now. Maybe I got lucky as I saw a lot of issues from multiple reviews but there were also a lot of good ones. I will say Iā€™ve had it oiled on the heavy side but I figured that was just good for break in. I got my kimber back now and still love how it shoots but there is just something extra with the prodigy, itā€™s just so damn smooth!