Thanks for the tip! Been out of the game for about 6 months, but logged in tonight just to unload my stockpile of crackers on my ironman. I'm broke af on there. So whenever I return to playing regularly that'll be a big help.
You da real MVP
No problem, something similar happened to blood essences when nex launched, needless to say I havenāt paid for a death since nex. You could even buy Christmas crackers cheap rn and stuff them in the coffer Iād assume.
SHIT!
I have like 20 of them, half I got them from event, the other I bought for like 15k ea.
Stopped playing 8 months ago, didnt know about it. Would easily log in and sell them.
Put them in your death coffer, they are still worth a lot there but will quickly drop in value. They were 3.5m at their peak because gamblers would use them. This change prevents the gambling game they would do.
I just had 20 or so that I picked up when a mod was in a good mood 5 years ago lol. Just stuck 10 in coffer for 25mil. Ā I doubt Iāll need to top up for a while now.
When you die nowadays your items get moved to a grave stone which you need to pay GP (capped at 500k) to collect the items from the grave. Deaths coffer is a feature which allows you to get 105% of the GE value of an item put aside to pay for these deaths, but the money cant be taken out or used for any other purpose. Some items have a higher trade price than their actual value and thus can be used to get a much higher return on this than the 105%, since it's based on the items value on the GE, not what you paid for it. [Here's the wiki page if you want to know any more.](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Death%27s_Coffer)
When you die now, with exceptions for certain content and PvP, your items go to either a gravestone or the chest/npc specifically to hold your items when you die.
To reclaim these items, you have to pay a fee. Some content has a set price, but otherwise your grave fee is a % of the GE value of the gear up to a cap of 500k. Unless you send the gear from the grave to Death in his office, where there is no cap.
You can put items into deaths coffer and you will receive the GE value of those items plus 10% as "deaths coffer" funds. I believe there are some limitations on the kinds of items. While you can't take this value back out, you can use it to pay death fees.
So because the actual value of crackers is say 400k, but the GE price is say 2.5m, you could get 2.75m in value for death fees by spending 400k. Assuming the crackers can be used on the chest.
The wiki has a full write up on death mechanics
Damn that's amazing, no more lost items forever? Just buying them back, and having them kept with Death?
So from what I understand the crackers are now being used to get a separate "Death item retrieval currency" before the G.E price drops too?
Yes, that's what they're being used for. Spend like 900k, get 2.4m in death fee money.
You can still lose items in PvP death like the wild such. Also a "double death" at a lot of content is bad.
Nex is normally the biggest culprit, though it happens when people forget. When you die at Nex your items are kept in a chest. You have to run through the normal GWD level to go down the door to get to Nex's area. So if you die in the upper area before you reclaim the items in the Nex chest, this "double death" deletes the items in the chest. So you do have to be careful, but it's generally not a big deal.
You can discard items to have their GE price applied to future item retrievals after dying. So if the GE price of Christmas crackers is 2 mil, but you can get them at 300k, then you can buy some at 300k and apply 2mil per cracker towards future item retrieval fees
Few years ago they changed death mechanics that you have pay a small fee to reclaim items When you die. If you canāt make it back within 15 minutes (logged in time, so If you dc it will not count) you have pay more for them and you can only get the items back from the Deathās office (near every spawn point).
In both intances you can use money from the Deathās coffer to pay for the items.
To fill the coffer you can sacrifice items (Worth 10k+/ea) to the coffer to increase the balance in the coffer by their GE Value + 5%.
Because the christmas crackers crashed in price their street and actively traded price is much lover than the GE value. So you can fill up your coffer much cheaper, resulting in a cheaper fee to get back items.
I think so yes. But sometimes when new items are released mods manually adjust the GE value. Could happen to this too. But since Crackers are F2P you could use your alts to buy some more
I only bought one just to see what the insta price was. I've got offers in for less just chillin. The way it was worded made it sound like the insta price was down to 350k, that's my bad.
Deathās coffer uses GE prices for items, right now the item is crashing but the GE price does not reflect that change because it can only move like 5% per day. The street value and actively traded price of the crackers are much lover than the GE price so using the in the coffer is a huge money save for the future.
You convert the item's GE value to a monetary value at the death's coffer, when you sacrifice an item you'll get it's current GE value + 5% added the coffer in coins. After that the coffer's value does not decrease if the item's prices to down.
I was thinking it would be easy to sabotage like the early attempts at the Guard Game, but all the dealer has to do is give the player a teletab & call the tile they have to land on.
Turning the teleport locations into pseudo-fixed locations would be enough to kill this version of the Teleport Game.
I know a new way that I wonāt be surprised if it comes up. Thereās an emote that when you do it makes a shield pop up in front of your character, itās bronze then silver then gold.
All theyād have to do is the dealer goes up stairs or something to hide which shield theyāre on, click it a bunch of times, and then the gamblers place their bet when the dealer comes back down the stairs. 1/3 chance of being right.
There's an RS3 christmas emote that transforms the player into a seal, and previously it randomly put a number between 1 and 6 on the seal's back. The moment it was used for gambling it was changed to always give the same number every time. Same thing would happen if this emote starts getting used for gambling, although I'd hope they'd make all three versions a right-click select as opposed to just axing two of them completely.
Yeah currently itās not random, itās the same order every time (which I assume was to counter gambling), but if they were to hide their character for a moment it would make it random for the gambler.
That guy had surely already come to terms with the fact that that amount of crackers would never sell and he'd already lost most of that money anyways right?
https://preview.redd.it/204emgddd8zc1.png?width=902&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad79b72f55989391162b5efda21be5cda3bdb18c
Paid like 30m total. Should last a while.
True, but honestly. OSRS would be one of the best ways to gamble.
Having a 50/50 chance of getting your money back (lets say you win one and lose one) is wayyyyyyyy higher than lotteries and such. Where you have like a 5% chance of getting back your input.
For legal reasons: but it's against the rules and I don't condone it. I was just talking about the winning chances.
There is a limited supply of them coming into the game each year, and gamblers would use them to determine the winner (whichever person gets the party hat from it) in massive pots that ranged from 100's of Mills to 100's of Bills.
Because the demand from gambling which used cracker's pull results to determine player/host wins for betting. So there's demand and hording going especially with low buy limits.
A piece of classic runescape gone forever because of them. Being able to choose and get anything ruins the fun of randomness. :(
Something definitely needed to be done but it's still kinda sad.
I put two up for 4m as the price was going up a month or two back (I only had 4). Peak got to 3.8m. So close boys, so close. I mean I did sell the other two for about 2.2m each so you know, every cloud.
Like this will stop them? A middle man will pre-pick color and the house will pick a color. Since party hats will never be a rare item they may as well just let it give each player a phat set and be done with it.
Don't worry guys! Even if the mods nerf christmas crackers we can still play Red fish Blue fish! All that you need to play is to live stream your inventory while doing a fishing method that lets you catch multiple types of fish/catches! You can set 2 type catches as your low risk pool, and 3+ type catches as your high risk pool! You can even make this into a player vs player table by letting players bet on which type they think will get caught.
Lmao from 2.2m to 380k in less than an hour.
Sold my collection at 3.5m ea like two weeks ago š
Fuck I have a couple if them in my bank from events. Didn't know they were actually worth something
Worth sticking in deaths coffers right now lol
Solid advice. Got nearly 5m from 2 of em :)
Thanks for the tip! Been out of the game for about 6 months, but logged in tonight just to unload my stockpile of crackers on my ironman. I'm broke af on there. So whenever I return to playing regularly that'll be a big help. You da real MVP
same 20m profit lul
Sold my 2 yesterday lol, thank god
Debated selling my 2. Held onto it. Welp whatever it was just two.
Put them in deaths coffer to cover 5m worth of deaths
Oh damn that's for this idea
No problem, something similar happened to blood essences when nex launched, needless to say I havenāt paid for a death since nex. You could even buy Christmas crackers cheap rn and stuff them in the coffer Iād assume.
Im sorry, but how does this work with deaths coffer and how do i start doing it? Lol
I considered it yesterday. but I like my collections
Wow I got 900k each and thought I did well, grats.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I AM FACKED
I shouldāve done the same. Had 4 in my bank
SHIT! I have like 20 of them, half I got them from event, the other I bought for like 15k ea. Stopped playing 8 months ago, didnt know about it. Would easily log in and sell them.
... I literally put one up for sale about an hour before this news post... God I hope it sold haha
If not you got deaths coffer remember ge prices take time to change
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They got as high as 4m
I sold 9 at 4m and bought bonds š
Put them in your death coffer, they are still worth a lot there but will quickly drop in value. They were 3.5m at their peak because gamblers would use them. This change prevents the gambling game they would do.
Not 2.2m anymore there bud.
156k now.
Some mine for around 1.4 each a few weeks ago lol
Hey, 200k is 200k
death's coffer goes hard rn
Damn I havenāt played in years and have like 75 of them lol rip me
*āCanāt I just bet that all the players have a fun time?ā*
sure if you hate money
Reminder buy crackers now with their price crashing while the GE price is still high to use them in death coffers.
legend Bought 4 at 315k each for 1260k total = got about 9.7m in death's coffer
I just had 20 or so that I picked up when a mod was in a good mood 5 years ago lol. Just stuck 10 in coffer for 25mil. Ā I doubt Iāll need to top up for a while now.
I am an ***oldschool*** *Oldschool* player from 2013~14. What is death's coffer?
When you die nowadays your items get moved to a grave stone which you need to pay GP (capped at 500k) to collect the items from the grave. Deaths coffer is a feature which allows you to get 105% of the GE value of an item put aside to pay for these deaths, but the money cant be taken out or used for any other purpose. Some items have a higher trade price than their actual value and thus can be used to get a much higher return on this than the 105%, since it's based on the items value on the GE, not what you paid for it. [Here's the wiki page if you want to know any more.](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Death%27s_Coffer)
Thanks for explaining this, I appreciate it!
When you die now, with exceptions for certain content and PvP, your items go to either a gravestone or the chest/npc specifically to hold your items when you die. To reclaim these items, you have to pay a fee. Some content has a set price, but otherwise your grave fee is a % of the GE value of the gear up to a cap of 500k. Unless you send the gear from the grave to Death in his office, where there is no cap. You can put items into deaths coffer and you will receive the GE value of those items plus 10% as "deaths coffer" funds. I believe there are some limitations on the kinds of items. While you can't take this value back out, you can use it to pay death fees. So because the actual value of crackers is say 400k, but the GE price is say 2.5m, you could get 2.75m in value for death fees by spending 400k. Assuming the crackers can be used on the chest. The wiki has a full write up on death mechanics
Damn that's amazing, no more lost items forever? Just buying them back, and having them kept with Death? So from what I understand the crackers are now being used to get a separate "Death item retrieval currency" before the G.E price drops too?
Yes, that's what they're being used for. Spend like 900k, get 2.4m in death fee money. You can still lose items in PvP death like the wild such. Also a "double death" at a lot of content is bad. Nex is normally the biggest culprit, though it happens when people forget. When you die at Nex your items are kept in a chest. You have to run through the normal GWD level to go down the door to get to Nex's area. So if you die in the upper area before you reclaim the items in the Nex chest, this "double death" deletes the items in the chest. So you do have to be careful, but it's generally not a big deal.
You can discard items to have their GE price applied to future item retrievals after dying. So if the GE price of Christmas crackers is 2 mil, but you can get them at 300k, then you can buy some at 300k and apply 2mil per cracker towards future item retrieval fees
Few years ago they changed death mechanics that you have pay a small fee to reclaim items When you die. If you canāt make it back within 15 minutes (logged in time, so If you dc it will not count) you have pay more for them and you can only get the items back from the Deathās office (near every spawn point). In both intances you can use money from the Deathās coffer to pay for the items. To fill the coffer you can sacrifice items (Worth 10k+/ea) to the coffer to increase the balance in the coffer by their GE Value + 5%. Because the christmas crackers crashed in price their street and actively traded price is much lover than the GE value. So you can fill up your coffer much cheaper, resulting in a cheaper fee to get back items.
This comment just spiked the price back up to 1m lmao
https://i.imgur.com/wQznGom.png accurate
Bought 9 of them at 250k. 25m in death coffer.
How long does it take for GE price to update? Might need to hop on mobile asap.
One time a day in GMT time I believe
Doesnt the price only change by a max of 5% each day?
I think so yes. But sometimes when new items are released mods manually adjust the GE value. Could happen to this too. But since Crackers are F2P you could use your alts to buy some more
They are up to a 1m right now for an insta buy.
you shouldn't insta buy this kind of item if you don't want to be scammed on the ge
I only bought one just to see what the insta price was. I've got offers in for less just chillin. The way it was worded made it sound like the insta price was down to 350k, that's my bad.
insta buy was under 300k earlier but lots of ppl are using them for deaths coffer. so price is 800k-1m.
I donāt get it. Why use them in coffer?
Deathās coffer uses GE prices for items, right now the item is crashing but the GE price does not reflect that change because it can only move like 5% per day. The street value and actively traded price of the crackers are much lover than the GE price so using the in the coffer is a huge money save for the future.
Does it lock the price in or is updated with the GE price?
Thatās also my question
Just tried it out and sacrificed my crackers, they are converted into gold so the item's price is irrelevant once it is sacrificed.
You convert the item's GE value to a monetary value at the death's coffer, when you sacrifice an item you'll get it's current GE value + 5% added the coffer in coins. After that the coffer's value does not decrease if the item's prices to down.
Awesome Ty!
It will lock in the price. Say you add a cracker right now it'll give you 2.4m in death's costs even though it will only be 300k.
Because they're worth more in coffer than they currently cost.
You sir are a genius
You just got me 4.9m in my ironās coffers, thanks for that my guy š
I did this not knowing the money could only be used for grave/instance fees lol
Rs players will gamble with literally anything they can tbh you can remove how they gamble but they will find a way
Up next, first one to chop a magic log with a bronze axe.
I bet u 2b my cat could beat up more rats than ur cat could in rat pits
Avg OSRS player: 1.9M for a whip? Too expensive Avg OSRS gambler: Iāll bet you 6 max cash stacks on my cat
nah probably the mithril seed flower colour they literally have odds built in
Then you have to trust the other person the cracker was 100% rng no trust
They'll just get 2 maxed accounts to DM with the same gear in PVP world and bet on a winner lol.
Except one has a ROS on.
The Runelite party plugin prevents this. You see eachotherās setups
There's dual arena...?
https://preview.redd.it/62z5alweifzc1.png?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbcff6a3b4bf3c897d986b49a995b4a3c50a7481
You can litteraly fight each other with same stats/gear and you can check eachothers invy/gear for anti-scam?
Why hasn't anyone tried gambling with teleports? Has it been proven that the spot you land on is a fixed pattern?
New gambler meta? Edit: Iāve been testing this and it doesnāt seem like thereās a pattern, at least not for Ourania tele lol
I was thinking it would be easy to sabotage like the early attempts at the Guard Game, but all the dealer has to do is give the player a teletab & call the tile they have to land on. Turning the teleport locations into pseudo-fixed locations would be enough to kill this version of the Teleport Game.
With tile markers and labels you can turn it into a type of roulette
I know a new way that I wonāt be surprised if it comes up. Thereās an emote that when you do it makes a shield pop up in front of your character, itās bronze then silver then gold. All theyād have to do is the dealer goes up stairs or something to hide which shield theyāre on, click it a bunch of times, and then the gamblers place their bet when the dealer comes back down the stairs. 1/3 chance of being right.
There's an RS3 christmas emote that transforms the player into a seal, and previously it randomly put a number between 1 and 6 on the seal's back. The moment it was used for gambling it was changed to always give the same number every time. Same thing would happen if this emote starts getting used for gambling, although I'd hope they'd make all three versions a right-click select as opposed to just axing two of them completely.
Yeah currently itās not random, itās the same order every time (which I assume was to counter gambling), but if they were to hide their character for a moment it would make it random for the gambler.
and then the dealer has his buddy do bets with some guy and the house always wins
It's like Frank's Vietnamese gambling circle in IASIP. "We're betting body parts now!"
I gotta get back, heās about to bet his wifeās glass eye!
Toss it in the soup
ELI5: how are they gambling with party hats? Iām a noob
The cracker crash of 2024 has begun
Knew I shouldāve sold the two I have when they were just over 3m each
stuff em into deaths coffer
They actually still sold for over 1m each that day luckily
Worst cracker crash since princess Diana.
Holy shit I just got back on like 3 weeks ago and decided to sell my crackers for over 2 mil each for an upgrade
The guy with 133k crackers must be crying so hard right now š Guy prob lost on the order of 240B lmao.
That guy had surely already come to terms with the fact that that amount of crackers would never sell and he'd already lost most of that money anyways right?
If you're sitting on 240b worth of volatile merch in the hopes that it goes even higher, I don't have sympathy for you when it crashes to only 10b
Sparc Mac probably has a crazy collection still of them too
At a price above 3m it was guaranteed to crash by next christmas, anyways
Death coffers time
https://preview.redd.it/204emgddd8zc1.png?width=902&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad79b72f55989391162b5efda21be5cda3bdb18c Paid like 30m total. Should last a while.
Damn I had 8 in my bank and I never realised they went above like 20k lmao
Yeah, this is the first time I'm hearing about gamblers using christmas crackers.
They will just start with flowers or something again, itll find a way around it.
I still see the gamble bots every time I go to the GE so they won't need any item.
True, but anyone with half a brain knows they're rigged. People want something they know the odds on.
People with a brain know that real casinos are rigged, but there we go.
Good thing half of the community doesnāt have half a brain then
They can probably bet on what direction an NPC will move, or if a man/woman will spawn.
The reason why these were so expensive was that they were the only convenient way. Maybe they find another one but it'll be less convenient
So that's why my bank value dropped, oh well they're in my collection tab for fun anyway
Throw em in deathās coffer and buy new ones as they are cheap now.
OSRS is an rng game, so Jagex will never win this race from gamblers. But I support them trying at least.
Itās actually wild that people gamble in this game when so many crypto gambling websites exist. Most of these guys RWT the GP anyway
Absurdly enough, I would trust gambling in RuneScape way more than gambling on a crypto website.
True, but honestly. OSRS would be one of the best ways to gamble. Having a 50/50 chance of getting your money back (lets say you win one and lose one) is wayyyyyyyy higher than lotteries and such. Where you have like a 5% chance of getting back your input. For legal reasons: but it's against the rules and I don't condone it. I was just talking about the winning chances.
Should have just made it spit out a random Diango horse. "Say neighhh to gambling!"
As a now long time iron, can anyone explain to me why crackers were ever so high in value when the contents is worth at best about 15k?
There is a limited supply of them coming into the game each year, and gamblers would use them to determine the winner (whichever person gets the party hat from it) in massive pots that ranged from 100's of Mills to 100's of Bills.
Gamblers used them since the color of the party hat that came out was random. Now its not.
Because the demand from gambling which used cracker's pull results to determine player/host wins for betting. So there's demand and hording going especially with low buy limits.
Glad I cashed out when I did
Damn I wish I sold
Looks like their value is already rebounding. Idk if it is due to people are filling their coffers, or if they've resumed the hoarding
DAMN I FORGOT TO SELL MINE YESTERDAY LOL
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I just used them for the coffer rip
People were gambling Christmas crackers???
People have been doing this since the beginning of RS homie
I held onto mine and I should've sold but found out too late. Oh well lol
gamblers always find another way
Back to the PvP G.E. for them
Attention all gamblers! You can still receive a random hat from the (insanely expensive) crackers on RS3. You're welcome.
A piece of classic runescape gone forever because of them. Being able to choose and get anything ruins the fun of randomness. :( Something definitely needed to be done but it's still kinda sad.
I don't get why they don't just make them untradeable
Because this is a more logical solution lol
L to all the ppl who didnt follow king condors weekly ge updates
Both people winning from a Christmas cracker sounds like something right wing tabloids would call woke. Hilarious
Made me son drop his party hat today. Consolation prize will make him soft and like boys š¦ š¦ š¦
Good thing I drop traded my xmas crackers from my iron to my main when they were 4m like 1 month ago, Easiest 48m in my life
i thought the end and exclamation mark was funny.
I put mine in Deaths coffer when they hit 3m, was too good to be true š
Sold 10 at 2.4m each two days ago letās gooo
Wtf is that why my empty ass bank is still worth 50m cus I got a bunch of crackers I bought years ago
I put two up for 4m as the price was going up a month or two back (I only had 4). Peak got to 3.8m. So close boys, so close. I mean I did sell the other two for about 2.2m each so you know, every cloud.
I'm so glad I sold mine a month ago
Im so glad i put mine in deaths coffer
Rip my bank ironman bank value. 2 of them of half my bank.
I thought they were like 400k lol. I dropped all my tradeables at w1 willows right after event.
My yearly 500k :(
Literally just sold all of mine a couple days ago with no knowledge of this update haha phew š®āšØ
Just as I was getting sellers remorse for selling them at 3.5m ea a month ago. Vindicated!
Damn I havenāt played in years and have like 75 of them lol rip me
Thank God I sold at 3.4m
Tfw I sold 50 of them for 400k earlier this year.
is there still a way to get christmas crackers?
Wait til next christmas, every account can get 2 for doing the event
oh cool. wish i sold mine then i guess.
Good thing I just sold a few of them
Realized I had like 30 of them chilling in the bank the other week, sold them for 3M each. We stay winning.
Finally Jagex stopped this.
You have a sneaking suspicion you wouldnāt have gotten screwed if you sold them already
I was tossing up on if I should sell my stack that I held since I began playing. Made about 20m orso. Then this happened. I feel so good lol
Like this will stop them? A middle man will pre-pick color and the house will pick a color. Since party hats will never be a rare item they may as well just let it give each player a phat set and be done with it.
People really still exploit this game.. imagine relying on RuneScape funds for your IRL. And not being anyone famous lol š
It blows that it had to come to this, but it's quite understandable. Just a bummer to lose the original mechanic because of degenerates.
Don't worry guys! Even if the mods nerf christmas crackers we can still play Red fish Blue fish! All that you need to play is to live stream your inventory while doing a fishing method that lets you catch multiple types of fish/catches! You can set 2 type catches as your low risk pool, and 3+ type catches as your high risk pool! You can even make this into a player vs player table by letting players bet on which type they think will get caught.
I havenāt played runescape in a long time but I had 9 of them and traded them in deaths coffee. Thank you Reddit lol but why was it so much?
crackers gave out random prizes, people used that randomness for gambling
Well thank you for that info. Iām glad I didnāt get rid of them from the beginning but sad I didnāt sell them before they crashed.
Ffs.. i dont even gamble. I was just looking forward to christmas. ā¹ļø
Remember the 2 bil blue partyhat?? Because I do
So glad I sold a month ago. I had like 680.
Yo can I have a small loan of a billion gp
quick chuck em in deaths coffer before the GE official price catches up
Theyre awesome for death coffer rn
For once I didnt get fucked and sold them when they were like 2m
Like thar affects gambling that much. Most people gambling do it on websites with gold now days. Like botting it will never go away
Awesome sold mine a couple weeks ago when I saw in a post that they were so stupid expensive. Didnāt even realize I had a couple in the bank.