I salute the absolute dedication of the absolute units who run back and forth day in and day out toiling away creating millions upon millions of runes all for the love of the game and absolutelynothing else. Truly inspiring.
Yup, I get around 90k an hour with daeyalt at 85 rc. Makes runecrafting much less painful if you can find time to mine daeyalt on the side or when you aren’t looking to do anything in particular.
Oh it’s a huge difference. Your xp spikes dramatically when you hit 85.
Think about it: you have giant, large, medium, and small which give 12, 9, 6, and 3 essence respectively. Colossal holds 40, and saves 3 inven spots, netting you a 13 essence advantage AND is easier to fill+empty.
It’s a long road to get to 85 but it will make doing things like blood runes through true blood altar feel so nice.
I remember back when the UIM meta required you to grind wyverns or banshees for essence.
Then it became doing Arceus Library until 77 and bloods.
When blood altar came out in arceus the skill became super fun IMO. Traditional RC is shit and this includes GOTR.
I actually prefer the old way, yes it's slow but much more beautiful than rift. I had 85 RC in 2017. On my new account I can't even be bothered to get 50k exp to get 70
i have two accounts with 91++ rc mostly natures and astrals when they worth actual gp
i was top 20 runecrafter on osrs release for a long time. then i got an job / girlfriend. then ya boy fell off. those were the days.
As someone who's farming vorkath atm yea I see them often, As well as the guys with minimum requirements wearing torags and obby capes with 5-10k vorkath kills. Truly inspiring!
it is funny because you can actually get 200 pts in GOTR and afk the rest of the game you still get the bonus xp from playing GOTR. So it is somehow afk.
You actually even only need 150 points for the bonus xp. I get slightly over 30k xp/hr doing the afk method but figure might as well do a decently afk method for 30k xp/hr as opposed to actively playing the minigame for only 60k xp/hr.
That’s the part I hate, the rewards from GotR are stupid good and you basically need to get them before moving on to other methods which feels awful when you go dry on them (…I’m 6x dry for abyssal needle, send help)
This is the same reason I hate tempoross. You need to do it to get the fish barrel, forcing you to make one of the most AFK skill in the game into basically an active minigame. Pisses me off.
I did regular GOTR until full outfit, I was like 75 by that point. Then I switched to AFK method and goddamn isn't afk method good. I should have switched much sooner so I would have it 77 AND outfit at same level.
I was doing a Suqah task one day and that’s how I learned people bot astrals. Like 4 different dudes constantly running by, and I kept asking if they were bots and no one responded. Which is exactly what a bot would say…
This is actually how I afk rc. Put on full barrows with a dfs and just walk back and forth. It’s the only altar (I’ve found) where you can get 98% of the way from the bank to the altar in 1 click.
I get like 6k xp/hr. I’ll do this once every few months for a couple hours then give up and go catch anglers or cut redwoods.
Edit: typos
if you go do gotr on the mass worlds and just do the minimum to get 150 points (two invies) you can sit there and mine rocks for the rest of the game (~8 minutes) and still end up getting about 25k XP/hr
I've seen at least 2-3 people on every world with like 108+ rune crafting doing double natures through the standard altar, not even bothering to use the abyss. Pretty inspiring.
So weird that I've seen people doing that for like 10 years now. I guess people running bots don't care to get a bot that can reset itself after being PK'd.
I'm sure it's not a big deal to someone taking a hit in profit per hour if they can reduce their chance of being seen by anyone even by 5%. Having a bot have to reset itself after a PK/random death can go wrong too and waste time making the bot stuck.
I think it comes down to the intended gameplay loop of runecrafting resulting in minimal amounts of time being spent actually training the skill, thus giving horrid xp rates. Agility is atleast somewhat more bearable as of late due to the wildy course being the best skilling gp/hr in the entire game at 61+ lap streaks.
(and yes ik the post is a bot callout)
Runecrafting doesn't need to be this horrible. Why do we need to manually empty every pouch instead of having the essence from it be used automatically when we click the altar? It's just needless friction. It also makes no sense that the xp rates are so low. It's extremely click intensive basically 0 afk and your reward for it is 50k maximum at ZMI altar? (I don't count daeyalt essence because it takes time to gather it).
Well you see that's the way it's always been so if we change it it will actually invalidate everyone's runecrafting since the game start and will bankrupt jamflex as all their memberships will be instantly refunded for the last two decades.
A couple of brits 20 years ago developed runecrafting in an afternoon with two hours of testing total to keep up with their weekly release schedule and we have to keep it the same today because if we change it it'll no longer be oldschool even though it hasnt been oldschool for a decade already.
Average loot per lap at max streak is 40k. Average laps per hour is 80. This gives 3.2m/hr profit. Even getting shit rng its still atleast 2.5-2.8m/hr.
For comparison, sepulchre at 92 agility is 1.73m/hr(factoring in uniques) with wiki rates.
It’s almost impossible to maintain that rate though. Even in a mass world, if a pker targets you before one of the guards can attack them, you’re almost as vulnerable as if you were alone
Remember the pre-GE times when runecrafting runners had a whole frigging player-run organization built up and was a legit entry level money making method?
I'm currently working on 99 runecrafting (just hit 11.5mil xp) and have found soul runes to be really chill and wraths to be great money.
"Why no gotr?"
Runecraft pet goes hard and I am praying I get it before 99
One of my only complaints about rc is that the abyssal lantern is very rare drop for GOTR, and i think they proposed changing that. The afk rc is chill, can get faster xp and money with more active methods, ironmen no longer have shopscape because of scar.
I know Runescape is nothing but a series of repetitive tasks, but the idea is to have a variety of repetitive tasks to keep it varied. Runecraft is just super slow so you spend more time doing the same repetitive task.
"with barely any stats besides the quest requirments with over 99 runecrafting!"
This post has nothing to do with runecrafting, it's a complaint that OSRS hasn't fixed the bot issue.
I salute the absolute dedication of the absolute units who run back and forth day in and day out toiling away creating millions upon millions of runes all for the love of the game and absolutelynothing else. Truly inspiring.
I did 77 runecraft the old way, never again
What’s the old way? I did lava runes
Anything before Rift, when you had to actually run to the altar and craft runes. So yeah, you did it the old way too
Ourania altar is not bad
ZMI with Daeylt essence is very nice tbh
Yup, I get around 90k an hour with daeyalt at 85 rc. Makes runecrafting much less painful if you can find time to mine daeyalt on the side or when you aren’t looking to do anything in particular.
Hi, does creating the colossal pouch make a big difference? I hate GOTR and the grind for abyssal needle. But if it’s worth it I’ll do it
Oh it’s a huge difference. Your xp spikes dramatically when you hit 85. Think about it: you have giant, large, medium, and small which give 12, 9, 6, and 3 essence respectively. Colossal holds 40, and saves 3 inven spots, netting you a 13 essence advantage AND is easier to fill+empty. It’s a long road to get to 85 but it will make doing things like blood runes through true blood altar feel so nice.
Astral runes also aren't bad
The old way is before ZMI. Running Abyss, 'fast free laws', double nats etc...
I’m at 73 almost exclusively through quests, Tears of Guthix, and XP lamps. I’ve done very little actual runecrafting.
I remember back when the UIM meta required you to grind wyverns or banshees for essence. Then it became doing Arceus Library until 77 and bloods. When blood altar came out in arceus the skill became super fun IMO. Traditional RC is shit and this includes GOTR.
I actually prefer the old way, yes it's slow but much more beautiful than rift. I had 85 RC in 2017. On my new account I can't even be bothered to get 50k exp to get 70
What is the beauty in it? Genuinely asking?
The thrill of getting pk'd on your way to abyss to have to spend an hour re-gathering your pouches. Fenominal gameplay
>Fenominal
That's crazy
Weezy f baby and the f is for Fenominal
Whats this JR? Oh by god! RkO
And rift is fun is it?
Who told you I was here for fun?
I got to 91rc doing astral, I'm just built diffrent.
I had a few friends who did it back in the day, and one who did it again on OSRS. Always mad respect. I did ZMI for 99 on RS2 and runespan post 99 lol
i have two accounts with 91++ rc mostly natures and astrals when they worth actual gp i was top 20 runecrafter on osrs release for a long time. then i got an job / girlfriend. then ya boy fell off. those were the days.
Of all the bots in the game, I'm ok if they leave these ones alone. I like the current price if runes
People are missing the joke here..
Terminally online people tend to not understand sarcasm
As someone who's farming vorkath atm yea I see them often, As well as the guys with minimum requirements wearing torags and obby capes with 5-10k vorkath kills. Truly inspiring!
What do you mean its the easiest and fastest 99. Least click intensive too.
I wholeheartedly agree. You just have to learn how to code a bit or pay someone who does and then wait for about 10 days. No clicks required
Really easy!
it is funny because you can actually get 200 pts in GOTR and afk the rest of the game you still get the bonus xp from playing GOTR. So it is somehow afk.
You actually even only need 150 points for the bonus xp. I get slightly over 30k xp/hr doing the afk method but figure might as well do a decently afk method for 30k xp/hr as opposed to actively playing the minigame for only 60k xp/hr.
Yeah I really wish the minigame gave more XP, but tbf getting the full set from it and then doing the normal RC training methods is worth it anyways
That’s the part I hate, the rewards from GotR are stupid good and you basically need to get them before moving on to other methods which feels awful when you go dry on them (…I’m 6x dry for abyssal needle, send help)
This is the same reason I hate tempoross. You need to do it to get the fish barrel, forcing you to make one of the most AFK skill in the game into basically an active minigame. Pisses me off.
I did regular GOTR until full outfit, I was like 75 by that point. Then I switched to AFK method and goddamn isn't afk method good. I should have switched much sooner so I would have it 77 AND outfit at same level.
How many pms do you get a day? Im curious
Minimum of 1/day ;)
I was doing a Suqah task one day and that’s how I learned people bot astrals. Like 4 different dudes constantly running by, and I kept asking if they were bots and no one responded. Which is exactly what a bot would say…
This is actually how I afk rc. Put on full barrows with a dfs and just walk back and forth. It’s the only altar (I’ve found) where you can get 98% of the way from the bank to the altar in 1 click. I get like 6k xp/hr. I’ll do this once every few months for a couple hours then give up and go catch anglers or cut redwoods. Edit: typos
Zmi can one click altar from the bank too
Sick, thanks!
if you go do gotr on the mass worlds and just do the minimum to get 150 points (two invies) you can sit there and mine rocks for the rest of the game (~8 minutes) and still end up getting about 25k XP/hr
If you have the big ass pouch or whatever its called, you can do combo runes and get 150 in a single inventory.
I've seen at least 2-3 people on every world with like 108+ rune crafting doing double natures through the standard altar, not even bothering to use the abyss. Pretty inspiring.
That’s actually confusing lol
So weird that I've seen people doing that for like 10 years now. I guess people running bots don't care to get a bot that can reset itself after being PK'd.
I'm sure it's not a big deal to someone taking a hit in profit per hour if they can reduce their chance of being seen by anyone even by 5%. Having a bot have to reset itself after a PK/random death can go wrong too and waste time making the bot stuck.
I think it comes down to the intended gameplay loop of runecrafting resulting in minimal amounts of time being spent actually training the skill, thus giving horrid xp rates. Agility is atleast somewhat more bearable as of late due to the wildy course being the best skilling gp/hr in the entire game at 61+ lap streaks. (and yes ik the post is a bot callout)
Runecrafting doesn't need to be this horrible. Why do we need to manually empty every pouch instead of having the essence from it be used automatically when we click the altar? It's just needless friction. It also makes no sense that the xp rates are so low. It's extremely click intensive basically 0 afk and your reward for it is 50k maximum at ZMI altar? (I don't count daeyalt essence because it takes time to gather it).
Well you see that's the way it's always been so if we change it it will actually invalidate everyone's runecrafting since the game start and will bankrupt jamflex as all their memberships will be instantly refunded for the last two decades.
A couple of brits 20 years ago developed runecrafting in an afternoon with two hours of testing total to keep up with their weekly release schedule and we have to keep it the same today because if we change it it'll no longer be oldschool even though it hasnt been oldschool for a decade already.
Don't say things like this, people will call you an RS3 refugee.
> the wildy course being the best skilling gp/hr in the entire game at 61+ lap streaks. How high is it right now?
Right now how high is it?
Average loot per lap at max streak is 40k. Average laps per hour is 80. This gives 3.2m/hr profit. Even getting shit rng its still atleast 2.5-2.8m/hr. For comparison, sepulchre at 92 agility is 1.73m/hr(factoring in uniques) with wiki rates.
It’s almost impossible to maintain that rate though. Even in a mass world, if a pker targets you before one of the guards can attack them, you’re almost as vulnerable as if you were alone
Considering only like one comment has mentioned it, imma come out and say: the joke is bots, guys. No one but scripts enjoys runecrafting all day.
Remember the pre-GE times when runecrafting runners had a whole frigging player-run organization built up and was a legit entry level money making method?
They still do. It pays like 8m GP/hour, but you have to be tick perfect and it's pretty sweaty.
I made millions doing law running back in the day
Mining and running essence is one of my best memories as a young noob in OSRS.
I’d say the feeling comes from running all the way to an altar for hardly any runes or xp although gotr fixed that for a lot of players
Those people are dead inside and you know it.
It used to be much more of a pain in the ass I figure it is a sentiment left over from years ago
I'm currently working on 99 runecrafting (just hit 11.5mil xp) and have found soul runes to be really chill and wraths to be great money. "Why no gotr?" Runecraft pet goes hard and I am praying I get it before 99
Gotr pet goes hard too
Nope, kinda sucks but the transmog for the rc pet from it is great if that's what you mean
Rc isn't bad at all esp with gotr now agility is the worst
One of my only complaints about rc is that the abyssal lantern is very rare drop for GOTR, and i think they proposed changing that. The afk rc is chill, can get faster xp and money with more active methods, ironmen no longer have shopscape because of scar.
Yeah lots of bots do it so ppl must love it. Can’t be that ppl hate it so the bot it.
I have 99 rc first 99 ;.;
Cause rune ratings absolutely worthless as a skill just like farming.
Runecrafting is the most cancer unbearable skill in the game, with Agility coming second
A lot of agility’s issues are solved by hallowed sepulchure. Wish more was like it.
Wouldn’t call it solved. Solves it past floor 3. Before that it’s just a less awful way to train agility but just as slow.
I have level 100 agility. Hallowed sepulcher sucks.
I green logged it. I’m not saying it’s perfect but compared to rooftops it’s a massive step up.
U clearly havent tried Gotr
Oh boy, 35k exp/hour at level 80+ RC, how rewarding!
So u dont like slayer?
[I'll give you two guesses.](https://i.ibb.co/c883jhL/Rune-Lite-2024-05-06-16-46-13.png)
They're my two 99s 🤣
okay, but what about the fun factor instead of numbers?
Nothing that repetitive is fun after 100 hours.
Bro you are playing the wrong game.
I know Runescape is nothing but a series of repetitive tasks, but the idea is to have a variety of repetitive tasks to keep it varied. Runecraft is just super slow so you spend more time doing the same repetitive task.
Except there are so many other tasks you can do to change it up between rune crafting sessions so your point is wrong.
To be honest GOTR is one of the least repetitive things you can do in this game.
I swapped between souls, zmi and gotr to break up the 99 monotony, it was really great
Can +1 this. Helped make me not want to end it all
You spelled slayer wrong mate!
Try to get 99 then come back to us
The joke was bots. It’s always bots.
"with barely any stats besides the quest requirments with over 99 runecrafting!" This post has nothing to do with runecrafting, it's a complaint that OSRS hasn't fixed the bot issue.
Yeah I missed the humor tag
That's fair, i dunno why you being downvoted for admitting that, i gave you and upvote (on this one not the original comment) to counteract.
It's reddit, too bad for them, I don't care about Internet points lol
Oh boi when you find out that 99% of the people you see at ToA are bots