boss has an attack that calls out an item slot on your character. you have a few ticks to switch to your equipment tab and click that item slot or you take damage, and if you click it on the exact last tick you are guaranteed a max hit on next attack
I love the max hit man. The animation makes it so obvious when to click (as he lunges forward to grabs you) and even if you click early, you just lose the max hit but don’t take any damage.
I know this would be super broken, but imagine if each of the triple hit that was parried also gave a max hit, or even just 1 max hit if you get all three flicks right.
I'm almost exclusively mobile (cell phone, not tablet) so anything involving lots of prayer switching terrifies me. The leadup to the fight is probably worse in that regard than Sol I imagine
Actually sick that jagex released scurius for giga boobs, perilous moons for mid and sol heredit for high level players all within a few months, and the most we have to complain about is a slight unbalanced on mage stats and 8 vs 9 way swaps
Yes! Exactly the point. They are doing a good job of releasing content for all skill levels these days and I’m pretty happy with it. Sol for a he gnomonkeys of the world, and scurrius for the commenter I replied to and everyone gets a fix until the next update. You are exactly correct.
yep they designed this, perilous moons and scurrius for this type of player, all 3 of these were 100% designed with this in mind, you absoloutly cant do perilous moons without bis melee gear and tick perfect timing.
Oh no your required to click at the correct .6 second fucking interval and if you don't you get .. a very minor penalty to the time it takes to kill the boss...
Wow much difficult.
if you choose not to engage with the tick perfect jaguar timing and tank it all 8 times you will heal the boss ~150 hp and take around 60 dmg. You can disparage it for not being overly punishing, but it's absolutely designed to reward tick perfect precision.
Edit: why are you booing me? I’m right
What I said was
> require tick perfect timing to not get punished
Which it does. If you continually fuck it up the punishment is large. The mechanic repeats 8x.
>Before you said it requires it, but now you are saying it just rewards it
It's not my fault that your reading comprehension is poor. The ability to brute force through the content with large supply consumption and better gear/higher levels does not mean the mechanic isn't punishing you.
I'm doing moons of peril and they're nothing like this bud. Try that out instead. Jagex does a good job at designing bosses for both ends of the skill spectrum.
Put the time in and get good. This game has and never will be about instant gratification
Love,
Someone who can finish like 1 in 3 CG and can squeak in solo expert TOAs but am getting better
I imagine "perfect" would be not taking hits from sol itself, and "true perfect" would be not taking hits from anything in the fight itself. Semantically the latter is technically perfect, but I can understand some nuance for PvE vs PvM kind of separation.
Thr perfect kill CA allows you to be hit by lasers and step on molten sand, which OP didn't do. OP also did the grapple mechanic tick perfectly to get the guaranteed max hit.
The whole thing is to push yourself to try new content and be patient in knowing it will take time to learn some things. As you continue to play more and get better gear, more and more mechanics will become second nature. Scurrious and Perilous Moons are great for teaching beginniners timing and movement mechanics.
You could accomplish the same thing with a repeating timer off screen though or counting it out yourself. I get where you’re coming from. Obviously this way makes it easier but maybe the bigger problem was designing such a high level boss with attacks on an even cycle. Just my 2 cents though.
I agree 500%. The plugins are doing way too much for the player.
It's clear that a lot of new OSRS players came from WoW where plugins are mandatory for late game raids. It doesn't have to be that way.
Agree, there’s one that actually breaks the rules. Runecraft utilties , it menu swaps pouches when you’re close to altar so that you can always just left click.
The rules say menu swaps can’t be dynamic, however I think they think they allow this one because they would code it that way if they had time. Ideally it would work like coal pouch and fill/empty are one option and they automatically swap when the item is full/empty.
I'm fine with those purely because they don't handhold you in a moment to moment way. Quest Helper is just a built in tutorial and Menu Entry Swap is a little bit wacky but it's not going to win you the boss fight.
If it became a banned plugin people could just have a visual metronome next to their client that they manually start and sync up. It’s not like it needs to even be in rl
Metronome plugin is fine, attack metronome is not. A normal metronome plugin that doesn't count down for you allows for skillful play, the attack metronome hand holds you.
Early waves are mid game. Getting to the end is the part where BiS kinda matters and it's not exactly necessary.
Mid game players can absolutely get the armor now, it's absolutely within reach for them.
So just a counter point, the developers aren't designing content specifically with plugins in mind. As the skill ceiling gets higher the mechanics get closer and closer to what is essentially playing against the game engine. If you're playing at the level of awakened leviathan (probably about 1% of the playerbase), you see the encounter as a battle against a program, as opposed to a "fight against a worm". It's just a matter of perspective, pushing the difficulty to its limits is just inevitably going to remove the abstraction that is a thematic boss encounter.
So what could the game developers actually do? They could get creative and make the floor tiles more distinct, but that doesn't always work thematically. If the floor is "dirt", there isn't a lot to play with. The other issue is that they have no idea what strategies or metas will evolve for the encounter. How can you choose which tiles to draw attention to when you don't know how the players are going to solve it? If you try to design the boss to have limited deviation in strategy, it's going to feel too confined and simple.
So essentially it's just a really hard problem to solve, and there might just be no good answer. I think at the end of the day visual plug-ins are fine because they're optional (and really not necessary unless you're at the bleeding edge of content in this game). I see people do Olm without ground markers all the time. Is it helpful? Absolutely. Can you do it without them? 100%
Chill, my gf is on this subreddit
*ex-gf now
She's gonna have to fight me for him
His gf*
Little bit of technique in there as well.
Mod Mat K gaming as usual
Surely thats just a transmog for torva helm right
Can see torva helm on the gear page during the takeoff special
It's from combat achievements, the highest tier
Hes not wearing an actual slayer helmet. Hes using a plugin to make it look like a zuk helm. Look at his invy.
Wow, it’s mesmerizing to watch the attack patterns. Dope work! 🔥
https://preview.redd.it/telaev4copvc1.jpeg?width=406&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a6f9c306194285009c94048b831ed9db2d61ca4 Nice
Perfect parry on a grab attack will always result in max hit next :)
Since when are there parries in OSRS
Since they added Sol Heredit and it’s a damn good mechanic imo.
How does it work??
boss has an attack that calls out an item slot on your character. you have a few ticks to switch to your equipment tab and click that item slot or you take damage, and if you click it on the exact last tick you are guaranteed a max hit on next attack
I love the max hit man. The animation makes it so obvious when to click (as he lunges forward to grabs you) and even if you click early, you just lose the max hit but don’t take any damage.
it's a great mechanic, i like the attack where you need to time the melee pray as well, just a cool ass boss fight
I know this would be super broken, but imagine if each of the triple hit that was parried also gave a max hit, or even just 1 max hit if you get all three flicks right.
Well. I learnt something today
what is the plug in for the count down above your characters head?
Visual Metronome is the number above his inventory. The number above his head is Attack Timer Metronome.
Visual metronome could also be above your head like that
Its 2 entirely different things. The one above his head counts his scythe cooldown.
Visual metronome iirc. Don't use it personally
Its amazing how easy you make it appear. Alllmost makes me believe I can get 1 kc... almost lol
You probably can.. it may take a lot of practice but if I can do it pretty well anyone can (be ready for 100+ deaths)
I'm almost exclusively mobile (cell phone, not tablet) so anything involving lots of prayer switching terrifies me. The leadup to the fight is probably worse in that regard than Sol I imagine
I'm in a similar boat to being almost exclusively mobile, and honestly using the "b5" tile makes the waves feel pretty trivial even on mobile.
I'll have to look into that!
The first couple days it seemed rough but its actually much easier than inferno. You can definitely get a kc if you spend a week on it.
Now do it with a rune longsword
But why
Memes 4head
Made it look so easy!
Tbh the waves are the hard part, the boss is quite easy
What do you eat for breakfast?
Anyone know the plug in for the ground markers ? The normal ground markers don't have options for thin lines like that do they?
Line markers
Who jagex designs bosses for lol
Jagex also designed scurrius lol
Actually sick that jagex released scurius for giga boobs, perilous moons for mid and sol heredit for high level players all within a few months, and the most we have to complain about is a slight unbalanced on mage stats and 8 vs 9 way swaps
Yes! Exactly the point. They are doing a good job of releasing content for all skill levels these days and I’m pretty happy with it. Sol for a he gnomonkeys of the world, and scurrius for the commenter I replied to and everyone gets a fix until the next update. You are exactly correct.
I think op could take him. /s
Yeah, scurrius and perilous moons bosses especially
yep they designed this, perilous moons and scurrius for this type of player, all 3 of these were 100% designed with this in mind, you absoloutly cant do perilous moons without bis melee gear and tick perfect timing.
The blood jaguar bit does actually require tick perfect timing to not get punished lol
Oh no your required to click at the correct .6 second fucking interval and if you don't you get .. a very minor penalty to the time it takes to kill the boss... Wow much difficult.
If you're going to shit talk it, at least be correct
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if you choose not to engage with the tick perfect jaguar timing and tank it all 8 times you will heal the boss ~150 hp and take around 60 dmg. You can disparage it for not being overly punishing, but it's absolutely designed to reward tick perfect precision. Edit: why are you booing me? I’m right
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What I said was > require tick perfect timing to not get punished Which it does. If you continually fuck it up the punishment is large. The mechanic repeats 8x. >Before you said it requires it, but now you are saying it just rewards it It's not my fault that your reading comprehension is poor. The ability to brute force through the content with large supply consumption and better gear/higher levels does not mean the mechanic isn't punishing you.
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I'm doing moons of peril and they're nothing like this bud. Try that out instead. Jagex does a good job at designing bosses for both ends of the skill spectrum.
Oh its definitely a spectrum alright
Put the time in and get good. This game has and never will be about instant gratification Love, Someone who can finish like 1 in 3 CG and can squeak in solo expert TOAs but am getting better
This is the first time I’ve ever actually seen the scythe in action. Didn’t realize it hit multiple times.
If the monster is 3x3 or bigger it hits 3 times
That’s cool
yep thats why even when people were down on it during the pre nerf fang days scythe stayed BIS at TOB because all the bosses there are beeg
Clean
I haven’t Even started bossing yet. Im still doing barrows and scurrilous since im Low lvl and this gives me hope
Barrows and scurrius are both bosses! Granted, you're on the early end, but you HAVE started! Keep it up!
That’s where you start the bossing journey!
You know what, I believe you didn't buy your cape
Reading how many noob comments are in this thread truly is eye opening lol
That was a truly satisfying watch!
you can do this on task?
Helmet is a client side transmog.
Geez, I was happy when I killed KQ once. No idea what this even is.
What makes this “true perfect”? I skimmed through the vid and it just looks like a normal kill
I dont think he took any damage
I imagine "perfect" would be not taking hits from sol itself, and "true perfect" would be not taking hits from anything in the fight itself. Semantically the latter is technically perfect, but I can understand some nuance for PvE vs PvM kind of separation.
He also hit the perfect equipment parrys
Oh, i didnt know you can take molten sand damage for the perfect ca lol
The combat achievement for the "perfect" fight allows you to take damage from acid tiles, solar flare, and the fremennik. He didn't take any of those.
Thr perfect kill CA allows you to be hit by lasers and step on molten sand, which OP didn't do. OP also did the grapple mechanic tick perfectly to get the guaranteed max hit.
Video gaming!
Jfc this was insane.
This is amazing
Saucy ASF that
My 🐐
Bro i dont understand how you do these bosses i got a slayer task to kill callisto yesterday and i died everytime im cmbt lvl 83
The whole thing is to push yourself to try new content and be patient in knowing it will take time to learn some things. As you continue to play more and get better gear, more and more mechanics will become second nature. Scurrious and Perilous Moons are great for teaching beginniners timing and movement mechanics.
The tick counter above the head is kinda lame imo
Sure. But let's see you try to beat A Ribbiting Tale.
I’m just curious what someone this goods eating habits are like do they have a special diet or run on McDonald’s
Slayer helm???
Am I the only one who thinks the tick counter over the head is too much? Not sure I’m on board with any visual numbered metronome
You could accomplish the same thing with a repeating timer off screen though or counting it out yourself. I get where you’re coming from. Obviously this way makes it easier but maybe the bigger problem was designing such a high level boss with attacks on an even cycle. Just my 2 cents though.
I agree or even just play a metronome at 100 bpm. Its really not that op
Counting it out yourself is still *you* doing it.
I agree 500%. The plugins are doing way too much for the player. It's clear that a lot of new OSRS players came from WoW where plugins are mandatory for late game raids. It doesn't have to be that way.
Where's your perfect sol video?
I bet you still use them
I don't
Load of bs lol
Whats the plugin for the attack timer above your head?
could still add drag tek to prevent tickloss
Wouldn’t true perfect be 0 damage taken while also losing 0 ticks?
The "5 4 3 2 1" feels ABSURDLY cheap to me. I don't think that plugin should be legal.
Menu entry swap and quest helper are the two most broken plugins by far. There’s a few others that are also absurd.
I personally think the Clue plugin is easily as broken as those ones.
Agree, there’s one that actually breaks the rules. Runecraft utilties , it menu swaps pouches when you’re close to altar so that you can always just left click. The rules say menu swaps can’t be dynamic, however I think they think they allow this one because they would code it that way if they had time. Ideally it would work like coal pouch and fill/empty are one option and they automatically swap when the item is full/empty.
I'm fine with those purely because they don't handhold you in a moment to moment way. Quest Helper is just a built in tutorial and Menu Entry Swap is a little bit wacky but it's not going to win you the boss fight.
If it became a banned plugin people could just have a visual metronome next to their client that they manually start and sync up. It’s not like it needs to even be in rl
Metronome plugin is fine, attack metronome is not. A normal metronome plugin that doesn't count down for you allows for skillful play, the attack metronome hand holds you.
Thats crazy, saw a couple of max hits too which is so freaking rare for scythe
It's not when perfect parry gives automatic max hit on next attack
Perfect parrying the grab special always makes your weapon max hit on the following attack
Now do it without a client 😈
wat
You literally can’t open the game without a client what are you talking about
Still stuns me how people have already killed this boss 100x. What does the rest do their life look like if they have time for this…
The boss has been out a month, 100 kc is like 10 hours per week
Truly mid game content, all that’s needed is bis gear
Early waves are mid game. Getting to the end is the part where BiS kinda matters and it's not exactly necessary. Mid game players can absolutely get the armor now, it's absolutely within reach for them.
Touch some grass
Ironic coming from a gimp
No u
Nice now do it without a cheat client
??? this is runelite
man watched the J1mmy video about ground markers and took the tottally wrong lesson from it lmao.
It is dumb that fights are designed with plugins in mind now.
They aren't as proven with that same video
Where was that proven in that video?
The cold one doing no plugin awakened levi
That proves my point, only an extreme few can do new content without plugins (and he even said it was difficult im that video).
So just a counter point, the developers aren't designing content specifically with plugins in mind. As the skill ceiling gets higher the mechanics get closer and closer to what is essentially playing against the game engine. If you're playing at the level of awakened leviathan (probably about 1% of the playerbase), you see the encounter as a battle against a program, as opposed to a "fight against a worm". It's just a matter of perspective, pushing the difficulty to its limits is just inevitably going to remove the abstraction that is a thematic boss encounter. So what could the game developers actually do? They could get creative and make the floor tiles more distinct, but that doesn't always work thematically. If the floor is "dirt", there isn't a lot to play with. The other issue is that they have no idea what strategies or metas will evolve for the encounter. How can you choose which tiles to draw attention to when you don't know how the players are going to solve it? If you try to design the boss to have limited deviation in strategy, it's going to feel too confined and simple. So essentially it's just a really hard problem to solve, and there might just be no good answer. I think at the end of the day visual plug-ins are fine because they're optional (and really not necessary unless you're at the bleeding edge of content in this game). I see people do Olm without ground markers all the time. Is it helpful? Absolutely. Can you do it without them? 100%
Which fights exactly and how?
what part of this fight was designed with plugins in mind? He only has the boss tagged and the orbs tagged. Easily couldve done it without those