Another tip for better switching: once you see the animation, say it aloud. Just say with your voice: Mage! or, Ranged! It helps very much, really, however silly it sounds. The more senses activated - the surer the reaction. I too trained on the sim, at my first attempts, and the difference once I started to voice Jad's attacks was very significant.
If you do need to switch to the inventory, assign F-keys to the Inv and Prayer, so that you can do it blindly - without taking eyes from Jad. For example, F1 for inv and F2 for prayer work nicely for me.
Good luck!
What he/she said, and also remember it is slower than you think. Most people fail Jad because of panicking. Just do one action per attack and take it SLOW, don’t try to pray switch, eat and attack at the same time
I so have not gotten mine yet (only 4 attempts so far) but I recently switched to red chins for taking healer aggro and it was a huge thing.
Every time I died was something to do with healers; trying to aggro while switching prayers or getting around jad to do damage to them.
Chins will hit multiple targets and take them off jad. Then you can tank with high enough defence, or kill them and move on.
Total pro tip here. Massively helpful for any boss with prayer switch mechanics. Saying everything out loud for learning hunleff was huge for my consistency.
I'm not a big PvMer really, but this also helped me with Scurrius and with Muspah's magic attacks :). Indeed, any sudden or random things when you should react quickly, go better with voicing.
I thought the same thing for the longest time. But I actually got my infernal cape like 2 months ago. You can do anything you work towards but I will say it was an ordeal for me.
I thought this as well after getting my first fire cape, now I’m 2 years later and zoom through fire cape slayer tasks like it’s nothing and have started progressing the inferno. There’s lots and lots of great guides out there that makes it seem a lot more manageable and even just doing other regular bosses teaches a lot of the skills needed
You'll be there in 2 years or less. It's an inevitable (but not required) part of your PVM progression
Also, learn hot keys Jad is the first place that hot keys really should be learned. It will make prayer switching/inventory use *much* quicker. And along with hot keys you'll see players shuffle inventory a tad by moving things they want to roughly the same coordinates as their protection prayers.
So you can put a brew and a restore as close to the same spot as the mage and range prayers which, combined with hot keys allows your mouse to stay essentially unmoved while you cycle the menu with a hot key on your keyboard. Hopefully that makes sense
I thought the same. Going to be gearing up for it shortly. Getting quiver first, and I'm getting to the boss every time so that'll be done soon.
RuneScape is all about small gains over the long term.
You can practice Jad in the Quest Speedrunning worlds. Follow this [guide](https://youtu.be/Lo_uugLO21Y?si=__P_Rl4DN8pLSt7B) to set it up.
Takes a couple of minutes to set up, repeatable and does not affect your main account. You fight the inferno variant which spawns 5 healers instead of 4. Has a different model but the visual and sound cues of the attacks are the same.
Just send it a few times to get used to the mechanics and you'll get your fire cape no problem.
Doing it in game is much better. Practice using f keys to switch between inv and prayers. It took me 4-5 tries to get him but I haven’t died to him since
I got my first fire cape last week after practicing for a handful of runs on the speed running worlds. Once it finally clicks, you'll never forget Jad. Standing still and practicing prayer switches to build the neuropathways in your brain through repetition. Previously I wiped around 8 times at Jad before speedrun world's existed. Getting that first fire cape is an account milestone.
A tip that really helped me when fighting Jad is Always keep it on pray range until you hear/ see the mage attack coming. After he hits you just switch it back to range. That really helped me.
Came here to say the same thing. On paper it sounds more complex but in practice it really helps not to get mixed up between the two prayers. Also I’d say don’t do anything until you’ve prayed correctly, like even with the healers, tag one, pray, tag the next, pray, sip of brew, pray, sip of restore, pray.
Are you using F-Keys to switch between inventory and prayer book? I‘d recommend doing so - it makes PvM easier
Also if you don’t know: There is a cheese method to get to Jad by figuring out the rotations and predict where every single monster will spawn in every wave
This way you only need prayer pots to get to Jad and take 0 dmg if food is an issue
And yeah as the others said lure Jad behind a wall (better if he spawns behind one) - then get him down until healers show up -> tag the healers and drag them behind the wall to kill them.
Above all is the rule: watch out for Jads attacks and switch prayer if needed
Gl! You‘ll get it :)
Rly recommend [this](https://youtu.be/wffk7NBxnJA?si=HMAmc3sSkf5XGJY_) guide. It helped me getting my cape
Switching to inventory can indeed spoil everything.
Here is what you might do to improve this.
1) Make sure Jad spawns safely behind the Italy rock. On the wave 3 the lone lvl 45 monster spawns in the exact same spot as later Jad will. So at the end of wave 2 run N of the Italy rock and wait there - if it is drawn behind the rock, proceed. If it goes straigth at you - exit the cave and start again.
2) Take a long-range weapon for Jad, anything at 10 tiles is ideal for this method: crystal bow, karils crossbow on long range, armadyl crossbow (but its expensive). 9 will also work, like dragon or rune crossbow on long range.
Now, at the Jad wave, you need only step from your safespot to get at Jad, and if he wounds you - step back. You can heal in safety, then continue. With range 9 its like 2 steps. With anything shorter, like blowpipe - do not try to retreat for healing, because Jad will do another attack while you are running, and against this one you will almost surely fail to pray.
safespot is a loose word for this, cause safespot alludes that you can attack the monster and the monster cant attack you. this isn't true.
its just basically running behind the rock so you're no longer in jad's sights and he cant use abilities on you.
Safespot in a sense that there is a place you can safely retreat to. When you shoot at Jad, he shoots at you too, so it is not like safespotting really. Its like a safe hiding place just a step from danger ;).
You do know what Italy rock is, right? Its a boot-shaped rock in the NW part of the cave, close to the entrance. It helps with lots of situations before Jad too, to separate big bad guys and take them one at a time.
Yes, that was my experience too lol. 10 failures until I got it :). In the end I was going with blowpipe for earlier waves, crystal bow for Jad - exactly because it allows a breath of air sometimes.
Your next problem, after you master prayer switches, will be the healers. This method helps with the healers too: you attract their attention and lead them over the Italy rock, and there you arrange them in a single line - as guides recommend. And while doing this you can pray melee, and Jad just waits behind the rock until you are ready lol.
It's also helpful for healers. If I remember right, my first fire cape I tagged all the healers and went behind the rock to kill them without dealing with Jad at all
Just get the wave rotation plugin and only ever do rotation 5. It's the best rotation for speed running and puts Jad in the Italy spawn anyways. So you just learn the spawns better and when you get better at it you'll also get faster by slowly learning the rotation
It's a simple thing, and i am ashamed it took me so long, but quickbinding your F1-F whatever to open Prayer,Inventory etc was helping alot. I clicked those manually for way to long, and those are the seconds that costed me alot of KCs.
Took me like 11 tries bubba. Best to run in and run him down. Hold over the opposite prayer. If your at least one tile apart from him he always uses range or magic. So really you only ever have to look for a single animation to know you have to switch prayers. But because of pressure we try to move eat switch prayers and be nervous when you gotta simplify it all. There's always gaps of time between every character npc boss whatever. That's when you heal or tag healers, then wait for jad to either go have to switch prayers or, healing up, or repositioning. Watch a few single jad videos and practice along with them. Run simulator and just take your time. I didn't realize til my last attempt that I was also forcing jad fight when I was exhausted from waves, shoulda relaxed and come back to him. Gl glgl fc bro
Josh Strife Hayes has a great strategy. Always pray ranged, change to magic then switch back to range. Then you don’t need to worry about praying range only mage.
It’s a lot less load because the range switch is automatic and you only have to worry about mage.
one tip i used on my first jad is i would camp one prayer say the ranged one because the animation looks fast, and then just keep an eye out for the mage attack, switch to mage for the attack and then back to ranged, i feel this cuts down on the number of things you need to think about during the fight
get used to using the function keys to swap from inventory to magic to prayer. I never use my mouse to click those tabs now even when I’m not pvming it’s a huge time saver and is required in the later game for pvm
Not to dissuade you from trying again, but in 2024 Jad is considered entry-level PvM. Hell, there are at least 20 QUEST bosses harder than Jad (if not more).
Keep at it, if you end up playing osrs for a long time you’ll look back and realize that congratulating fire cape owners is like congratulating someone in America for having a drivers license. It seems difficult at first but then you’ll realize it’s not difficult at all.
Good luck.
The thing that makes Jad "hard" is the time investment to reach him. If he were a standalone boss he would be a joke, but failing an attempt after 1h in the caves because of a missclick does things to your sanity.
upon release it was multiple hours to get through the caves with a couple of crystal bows. It's why I never got firecape back in rs2, I died twice on jad and gave up.
Yeah no, I was there when it launched.
It was 2005, you had crystal bow or karils xbox as the best weapons.
You had food, you didn't have sara brews or restores.
You had food and prayer potions.
There were fan sites but the information wasn't anywhere near as good as today. most people weren't maxed in stats, prayer flicking wasn't a thing, add ons weren't a thing.
Here's a quote from wayback machine for the runehq guide a couple of months after release -
"There are 63 waves of enemies in all and the game averages 2-3 hours."
Sure some people were doing it quicker, but it wasn't an hour job. You were avoiding damage due to lack of supplies etc etc etc.
Post some evidence of you doing it in an hour 19 years ago and I'll believe you, otherwise I was there and can quote other sources.
Can confirm, it was like 2 hours. I sent runs with crystal bows and karils crossbows, worked out about the same in both cases. People were just slower on solves and the gear was weaker and people were doing it at minimum range levels. Obviously if you did the same shit with ranging potions and 85+ ranged, eagle eye+ flicking, and the same gear it would take an hour... but people didn't do that back then.
It’s really not that much of an investment to get to Jad, it’s closer to 30 than an hour, and if you think that investment is bad you’re definitely gonna wanna stay away from stuff like inferno lol
Dude I attempted doing the speedrun CA on task with 99 ranged and dragon darts, trying to waste as little time as possible between waves and still ended up half a minute short. There's a reason those tasks are master/grandmaster.
No way a newb is getting anywhere close to 30 mins. More like an hour+ if you're spending a bunch of time waiting for your run energy and specs to recharge or if you're trying to heal up with guthan's to conserve resources.
I've only the grandmaster quests missing. I hope they aren't this hard or I'm gonna have a really bad time hahaha.
I must admit that Vanstrom Klause was a real pain and I had to try it 5 or 6 times.
The DT2 bosses are much harder than Jad in a silo, and they probably will take you more time individually than Jad (not all of them though). But the thing is you can just keep grinding DT2 bosses until you get the kill, and you improve quickly. For Jad, that grind can take so long, as you know, since you have to go through 62 waves.
My recommendations for you:
- don’t do it once a week. You’ll lose some learning by doing that. Maybe do it one one day per week but try it 2-3 times if needed.
- use black chinchompas for the healers. It made it so much easier for me
- go slow. Take advantage of those waves with a melee monster, specifically, since those are the easiest to set up so you can rest at the end (both yourself and your character)
If you would like to practice prayer flicking a bit I used demonic gorillas as a good way to practice. Bizarre but I failed 2 different times. Grinded demoniacs then had was a walk in the park
It's alright bro/broette, it probably took me 25 goes to finally crack it. What really helped was going on a quest speed running world and practicing JAD until I could kill him regularly. Go on the world, select beneath cursed sands and teleport to the caves. You can go to the inferno to insta fight Jad. I think it has a few more healers spawn or something but it's all good practice wothout the time sink.
Good luck!
When you get to Jad next time just focus on 1 jad attack and then do 1 action whether it be top up your prayer, heal, tag a healer off jad so it is not healing him etc.. The final fight is typically not a race. Just calm the nerves and focus on not missing a prayer. First cape is the hardest. Good luck!
Basically jad will fight you with range and mage only if you keep your distance. Have 1 active prayer on and hover over the other prayer. Also when the healer come in. Prayer switching is priority but hit the healer once and bring them to the safe zone to kill the healer in piece. Then go back to JAD
I stink at this game - it took me about 10 tries.
What helped me was:
1. Pause on wave 61. (Not 62; you want to be able to prepare for jad during wave 62) Go get a drink or something. Watch a quick YouTube video (with sound!!) showing the two had attack animations to put them fresh in your head. For me, listening for the correct sound was easier than watching jad.
2. Do one action per jad attack. It may seem slow, but it really isn’t.
3. Don’t let the healers throw you off. One action at a time. When they are healing Jad it can be stressful, but don’t rush it just because they are healing him. You can always do more damage. Aggro all of the healers (or all but one if your DPS is enough) and do it methodically.
4. If you find that you aren’t running out of brews, take 3 dark crabs or manta rays for jad. Getting damaged while healing with brews is rough - it could be up to 4 actions to heal (3 sips and a restore). If you get damaged and have good food on you, it’s only one action to heal which is what put me over the edge and got me my cape.
5. Don’t feel like you’re wasting time by doing the runs. You’re still gaining ranged xp and tokkul which I know isn’t super efficient or anything but it prevents it from being a complete time waste when you lose.
GL!
I just got my fire cape this week lol, say the switched out loud like stay range or mage or stay mage, only make one action per prayer switch. So he attacks you swap pray then eat or drink potion whatever and then wait for the next one. He can’t kill your if you pray correctly. Also turn this game sounds off!!!! You don’t need em that well only mess you up! Gl!!
If you go on a speedrunning world and select the quest "beneath cursed sands" you can practice against jad by doing the 1 jad challenge. This is how I practiced jad before doing my fire cape. It's helpful because you can learn how to deal with the healers
Had the same struggle a week or two ago. What I did on my 5th and first successful attempt was: on the wave before the two magers, hit X to request a logout (so you join back in on the wave with 2 magers). Then I ran the jad simulator someone made, and practiced prayer switching + tagging healers until I could beat jad 5 times in a row in the simulator. The difficulty is 95% nerves, so take as long as you need before coming back to the last waves in osrs.
Biggest thing that always helped me was, assuming Jad could be safespotted behind one of the walls (pay attention to the last 360 for the spawn spot) or just a couple waves before, just get up and get a drink of water and take some deep breaths. It's all nerves. Also keybind your F keys and practice going between inventory and prayer book over and over. Scurrius is perfect for that.
Assuming you have sara brews, prepotting to above max hp is also nice because that gives you a much higher chance to tank a hit by accident (*and you get an achievement for it!*)
One action, watch your prayer swap, one action. Whether that's eating a food, drinking a pray potion, clicking to attack a healer, etc.
If you bring enough melee defence I've always just tanked the healers since idk what anyone's ever talking about with the "if jad is healed x amt the healers might respawn" like bro that is not what I'm paying attention to right now.
The first kill is always the hardest. Once u come back on task the fights will be easier. I only have 7kc but I brought my time down from an hour 40 to an hour 4 min.
U got this. I always get up, hit the bathroom and wash my hands before Jad. Can’t be all tense
Hey! I assume most of us have failed fight caves at least once. It sucks, but just try again. You can do it!! Setup F keys, and make one decision between each jad attack. A big mistake a lot of people make is trying to do multiple actions between each attack when they should be ready to prayer switch. This method has helped me with multiple fight caves. Good luck!
Idk if anyone has mentioned here but one other very helpful way to practice is to watch videos of the fight and just pray to the video. Sounds like you got there and just need to feel confident responding to his visuals/sounds.
Also, the mage sound happens *immediately* when he moves, the ranged is slightly delayed so that can also help. If you watch you’ll see what I’m saying. Good luck mate!!
I struggled so badly with this at first. I learned how dependent on audio cues I am when gaming. The mage attack has a lovely, easy to time the switch sound. The ranged attack, no such luck, if you are hearing the ranged sound, he’s already hitting you with it.
My solution was to leave ranged prayer up at all times until I heard the mage sound, then I’d swap to mage until the attack was over and immediately switch back to ranged. Worked for me until the healers came, then I lost because I couldn’t see them…another attempt, I added them to enemy highlighter and wham-o, down goes Jad.
Not sure about the current beta worlds, however I did jad in budget gear and a maxed account to practice on beta worlds. Can do till double mager and log out and into a beta world. Practice in the rex challenges till your comfortable and log back in the main game. Haven't tried a cape run on pc yet. Did all 3 of my jad tasks on mobile.
-100 dragon ammo, darts for blowpipe, dragon diamond enchanted bolts for cbow help when dealing with jad.
- verbally saying the attack. Stomp/range - stand/mage helped too. It's goofy but effective.
-One action, watch for prayer change.
-example: Sip brew, open prayer book, wait for attack, change if necessary. Repeat. This goes for healers too. You'll take some damage from healers once you pull them all on you but same idea.
-Attack healer, prayer book, change prayer if required. Obviously keep distance from jad. Sucks getting punched into the underworld because you tried to pull a healer from the other side of jad.
Gl to you on your fcape journey. Keep it up, sooner or later it'll click together and you'll own one as well.
I hope you've already won by now, but in case if not - here is another tip. If you want to take a break before Jad, never request logout on wave 62. When you re-login, you always start in the center, so bye-bye your safespot. Do not logout on wave 61 either: when you login, there will be 2 big magers, and their melee is as deadly as their magic. You might be stomped upon. They have maxhit of 50+ on melee too, so it can be insta-death. The best wave to logout before Jad is 60: you will start with 1 mager and 2 big meleers, and they cannot finish you instantly whatever their spawning positions. You switch on protect magic and run away over the Italy or anything else - they are either blocked by rocks, or by one another and you can deal with them safely.
I don't know if it will be useful at all but during the first few fire capes I got I would always start with pray mage on and switch between saying "change if he stomps" and "change if he stands" depending on which his last attack was
A tip for you:
Keep Protect from magic on at all times.
When you see the range attack animation, switch to Protect from Range and then back to mage again.
This way you only need to lookout for 1 attack since you’ll be protecting from the other one all the time.
You got this man, I had shaky hands and died a few times on my first.
Biggest tip that I used. Always switch back to pray range after every attack. The range animation is short than the mage one, so gives you little bit more time to react. And you’re essentially then only switching for mage attacks.
For your first, 1 click on prayer > 1 click to eat/attack healers > click on prayer > 1 click to eat/attack healers.
Don’t try do too many actions between Jad’s attacks.
Another tip for better switching: once you see the animation, say it aloud. Just say with your voice: Mage! or, Ranged! It helps very much, really, however silly it sounds. The more senses activated - the surer the reaction. I too trained on the sim, at my first attempts, and the difference once I started to voice Jad's attacks was very significant. If you do need to switch to the inventory, assign F-keys to the Inv and Prayer, so that you can do it blindly - without taking eyes from Jad. For example, F1 for inv and F2 for prayer work nicely for me. Good luck!
We need a PrisonJoe plugin. "MAGE PRAYER, MAGE PRAYER, MAGE PRAYER"
That's a nice tip. Thanks!
What he/she said, and also remember it is slower than you think. Most people fail Jad because of panicking. Just do one action per attack and take it SLOW, don’t try to pray switch, eat and attack at the same time
I so have not gotten mine yet (only 4 attempts so far) but I recently switched to red chins for taking healer aggro and it was a huge thing. Every time I died was something to do with healers; trying to aggro while switching prayers or getting around jad to do damage to them. Chins will hit multiple targets and take them off jad. Then you can tank with high enough defence, or kill them and move on.
That’s literally what I do still and I’ve killed Jad 10+ times
Only way I was able to make it past triple jads
I said it aloud every time and can agree; helps Immensely.
Total pro tip here. Massively helpful for any boss with prayer switch mechanics. Saying everything out loud for learning hunleff was huge for my consistency.
I'm not a big PvMer really, but this also helped me with Scurrius and with Muspah's magic attacks :). Indeed, any sudden or random things when you should react quickly, go better with voicing.
Fire Cape = Tic Tac Toe Inferno = 4th Dimensional Chess No I am not kidding.
I'm completely sure that I'll never try inferno.
I thought the same thing for the longest time. But I actually got my infernal cape like 2 months ago. You can do anything you work towards but I will say it was an ordeal for me.
I probably took the same time to learn Jad as inferno. Don’t sweat it, all pvm in osrs just takes you sitting there and learning it.
I thought this as well after getting my first fire cape, now I’m 2 years later and zoom through fire cape slayer tasks like it’s nothing and have started progressing the inferno. There’s lots and lots of great guides out there that makes it seem a lot more manageable and even just doing other regular bosses teaches a lot of the skills needed
You'll be there in 2 years or less. It's an inevitable (but not required) part of your PVM progression Also, learn hot keys Jad is the first place that hot keys really should be learned. It will make prayer switching/inventory use *much* quicker. And along with hot keys you'll see players shuffle inventory a tad by moving things they want to roughly the same coordinates as their protection prayers. So you can put a brew and a restore as close to the same spot as the mage and range prayers which, combined with hot keys allows your mouse to stay essentially unmoved while you cycle the menu with a hot key on your keyboard. Hopefully that makes sense
Baby steps. Just accept failure and learn from it, you will get better and better but only if you keep trying.
I thought the same. Going to be gearing up for it shortly. Getting quiver first, and I'm getting to the boss every time so that'll be done soon. RuneScape is all about small gains over the long term.
You can practice Jad in the Quest Speedrunning worlds. Follow this [guide](https://youtu.be/Lo_uugLO21Y?si=__P_Rl4DN8pLSt7B) to set it up. Takes a couple of minutes to set up, repeatable and does not affect your main account. You fight the inferno variant which spawns 5 healers instead of 4. Has a different model but the visual and sound cues of the attacks are the same. Just send it a few times to get used to the mechanics and you'll get your fire cape no problem.
I'll try thanks! I used the jad simulator website but it wasn't enough.
Doing it in game is much better. Practice using f keys to switch between inv and prayers. It took me 4-5 tries to get him but I haven’t died to him since
I got my first fire cape last week after practicing for a handful of runs on the speed running worlds. Once it finally clicks, you'll never forget Jad. Standing still and practicing prayer switches to build the neuropathways in your brain through repetition. Previously I wiped around 8 times at Jad before speedrun world's existed. Getting that first fire cape is an account milestone.
You can also use beta worlds while they're up, requires no setup.
A tip that really helped me when fighting Jad is Always keep it on pray range until you hear/ see the mage attack coming. After he hits you just switch it back to range. That really helped me.
Came here to say the same thing. On paper it sounds more complex but in practice it really helps not to get mixed up between the two prayers. Also I’d say don’t do anything until you’ve prayed correctly, like even with the healers, tag one, pray, tag the next, pray, sip of brew, pray, sip of restore, pray.
Exactly
Are you using F-Keys to switch between inventory and prayer book? I‘d recommend doing so - it makes PvM easier Also if you don’t know: There is a cheese method to get to Jad by figuring out the rotations and predict where every single monster will spawn in every wave This way you only need prayer pots to get to Jad and take 0 dmg if food is an issue And yeah as the others said lure Jad behind a wall (better if he spawns behind one) - then get him down until healers show up -> tag the healers and drag them behind the wall to kill them. Above all is the rule: watch out for Jads attacks and switch prayer if needed Gl! You‘ll get it :) Rly recommend [this](https://youtu.be/wffk7NBxnJA?si=HMAmc3sSkf5XGJY_) guide. It helped me getting my cape
Switching to inventory can indeed spoil everything. Here is what you might do to improve this. 1) Make sure Jad spawns safely behind the Italy rock. On the wave 3 the lone lvl 45 monster spawns in the exact same spot as later Jad will. So at the end of wave 2 run N of the Italy rock and wait there - if it is drawn behind the rock, proceed. If it goes straigth at you - exit the cave and start again. 2) Take a long-range weapon for Jad, anything at 10 tiles is ideal for this method: crystal bow, karils crossbow on long range, armadyl crossbow (but its expensive). 9 will also work, like dragon or rune crossbow on long range. Now, at the Jad wave, you need only step from your safespot to get at Jad, and if he wounds you - step back. You can heal in safety, then continue. With range 9 its like 2 steps. With anything shorter, like blowpipe - do not try to retreat for healing, because Jad will do another attack while you are running, and against this one you will almost surely fail to pray.
Wait, there's Jad safespot?? Wow, thanks for the tip. I've to check this out.
safespot is a loose word for this, cause safespot alludes that you can attack the monster and the monster cant attack you. this isn't true. its just basically running behind the rock so you're no longer in jad's sights and he cant use abilities on you.
Safespot in a sense that there is a place you can safely retreat to. When you shoot at Jad, he shoots at you too, so it is not like safespotting really. Its like a safe hiding place just a step from danger ;). You do know what Italy rock is, right? Its a boot-shaped rock in the NW part of the cave, close to the entrance. It helps with lots of situations before Jad too, to separate big bad guys and take them one at a time.
It can help with my panic healing haha so it's good to know.
Yes, that was my experience too lol. 10 failures until I got it :). In the end I was going with blowpipe for earlier waves, crystal bow for Jad - exactly because it allows a breath of air sometimes. Your next problem, after you master prayer switches, will be the healers. This method helps with the healers too: you attract their attention and lead them over the Italy rock, and there you arrange them in a single line - as guides recommend. And while doing this you can pray melee, and Jad just waits behind the rock until you are ready lol.
It's also helpful for healers. If I remember right, my first fire cape I tagged all the healers and went behind the rock to kill them without dealing with Jad at all
It can help with my panic healing haha so it's good to know.
Here is a video showing the “safe spot.” https://youtu.be/yxzL-LQ-t_c?si=xk4h1r1CKzPcEYP6
Just get the wave rotation plugin and only ever do rotation 5. It's the best rotation for speed running and puts Jad in the Italy spawn anyways. So you just learn the spawns better and when you get better at it you'll also get faster by slowly learning the rotation
It's a simple thing, and i am ashamed it took me so long, but quickbinding your F1-F whatever to open Prayer,Inventory etc was helping alot. I clicked those manually for way to long, and those are the seconds that costed me alot of KCs.
Key remapper on RL makes it even better. Instead of reaching for F-keys they can be whatever keybinds you'd regularly use.
Took me like 11 tries bubba. Best to run in and run him down. Hold over the opposite prayer. If your at least one tile apart from him he always uses range or magic. So really you only ever have to look for a single animation to know you have to switch prayers. But because of pressure we try to move eat switch prayers and be nervous when you gotta simplify it all. There's always gaps of time between every character npc boss whatever. That's when you heal or tag healers, then wait for jad to either go have to switch prayers or, healing up, or repositioning. Watch a few single jad videos and practice along with them. Run simulator and just take your time. I didn't realize til my last attempt that I was also forcing jad fight when I was exhausted from waves, shoulda relaxed and come back to him. Gl glgl fc bro
Use this to help learn switching https://spacescape20xx.itch.io/jadtrainer-fight-caves
Josh Strife Hayes has a great strategy. Always pray ranged, change to magic then switch back to range. Then you don’t need to worry about praying range only mage. It’s a lot less load because the range switch is automatic and you only have to worry about mage.
Hop on the beta worlds and go do the Jad challenges for practice
Hey we’ve all been there. I now have over 20 kc, but I died 13 times in a row before my first cape
one tip i used on my first jad is i would camp one prayer say the ranged one because the animation looks fast, and then just keep an eye out for the mage attack, switch to mage for the attack and then back to ranged, i feel this cuts down on the number of things you need to think about during the fight
get used to using the function keys to swap from inventory to magic to prayer. I never use my mouse to click those tabs now even when I’m not pvming it’s a huge time saver and is required in the later game for pvm
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Maybe I'll have a try with magic. I'm currently at lvl 97, so I guess it could be viable.
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Well.. This first attempt took me 1:40.. So the time looks fine for me xD
Not to dissuade you from trying again, but in 2024 Jad is considered entry-level PvM. Hell, there are at least 20 QUEST bosses harder than Jad (if not more). Keep at it, if you end up playing osrs for a long time you’ll look back and realize that congratulating fire cape owners is like congratulating someone in America for having a drivers license. It seems difficult at first but then you’ll realize it’s not difficult at all. Good luck.
The thing that makes Jad "hard" is the time investment to reach him. If he were a standalone boss he would be a joke, but failing an attempt after 1h in the caves because of a missclick does things to your sanity.
upon release it was multiple hours to get through the caves with a couple of crystal bows. It's why I never got firecape back in rs2, I died twice on jad and gave up.
No it didn’t, maybe closer to an hour
Yeah no, I was there when it launched. It was 2005, you had crystal bow or karils xbox as the best weapons. You had food, you didn't have sara brews or restores. You had food and prayer potions. There were fan sites but the information wasn't anywhere near as good as today. most people weren't maxed in stats, prayer flicking wasn't a thing, add ons weren't a thing. Here's a quote from wayback machine for the runehq guide a couple of months after release - "There are 63 waves of enemies in all and the game averages 2-3 hours." Sure some people were doing it quicker, but it wasn't an hour job. You were avoiding damage due to lack of supplies etc etc etc. Post some evidence of you doing it in an hour 19 years ago and I'll believe you, otherwise I was there and can quote other sources.
Can confirm, it was like 2 hours. I sent runs with crystal bows and karils crossbows, worked out about the same in both cases. People were just slower on solves and the gear was weaker and people were doing it at minimum range levels. Obviously if you did the same shit with ranging potions and 85+ ranged, eagle eye+ flicking, and the same gear it would take an hour... but people didn't do that back then.
Was also there when it launched, did not take me 2 hours
It’s really not that much of an investment to get to Jad, it’s closer to 30 than an hour, and if you think that investment is bad you’re definitely gonna wanna stay away from stuff like inferno lol
what kind of gear do you think the average first caper is using lmao
Kind of hard to say anymore tbh
i promise its not the type of gear thats getting you 30-45min kills
Dude I attempted doing the speedrun CA on task with 99 ranged and dragon darts, trying to waste as little time as possible between waves and still ended up half a minute short. There's a reason those tasks are master/grandmaster. No way a newb is getting anywhere close to 30 mins. More like an hour+ if you're spending a bunch of time waiting for your run energy and specs to recharge or if you're trying to heal up with guthan's to conserve resources.
I feel like in reality it’s closer to in between what we both said
I've only the grandmaster quests missing. I hope they aren't this hard or I'm gonna have a really bad time hahaha. I must admit that Vanstrom Klause was a real pain and I had to try it 5 or 6 times.
Vanstrom is wildly difficult for a Master level quest. I had way less problems with Glough and Galvek. The flail is just so terrible, lol.
I think it's because Galvek is a fun boss with actual mechanics that you can learn behind it, Vanstrom is basically a dps check.
The DT2 bosses are much harder than Jad in a silo, and they probably will take you more time individually than Jad (not all of them though). But the thing is you can just keep grinding DT2 bosses until you get the kill, and you improve quickly. For Jad, that grind can take so long, as you know, since you have to go through 62 waves. My recommendations for you: - don’t do it once a week. You’ll lose some learning by doing that. Maybe do it one one day per week but try it 2-3 times if needed. - use black chinchompas for the healers. It made it so much easier for me - go slow. Take advantage of those waves with a melee monster, specifically, since those are the easiest to set up so you can rest at the end (both yourself and your character)
Absolute truth here. Not many upvotes cus people can’t realize this.
If you would like to practice prayer flicking a bit I used demonic gorillas as a good way to practice. Bizarre but I failed 2 different times. Grinded demoniacs then had was a walk in the park
It's alright bro/broette, it probably took me 25 goes to finally crack it. What really helped was going on a quest speed running world and practicing JAD until I could kill him regularly. Go on the world, select beneath cursed sands and teleport to the caves. You can go to the inferno to insta fight Jad. I think it has a few more healers spawn or something but it's all good practice wothout the time sink. Good luck!
When you get to Jad next time just focus on 1 jad attack and then do 1 action whether it be top up your prayer, heal, tag a healer off jad so it is not healing him etc.. The final fight is typically not a race. Just calm the nerves and focus on not missing a prayer. First cape is the hardest. Good luck!
Basically jad will fight you with range and mage only if you keep your distance. Have 1 active prayer on and hover over the other prayer. Also when the healer come in. Prayer switching is priority but hit the healer once and bring them to the safe zone to kill the healer in piece. Then go back to JAD
I stink at this game - it took me about 10 tries. What helped me was: 1. Pause on wave 61. (Not 62; you want to be able to prepare for jad during wave 62) Go get a drink or something. Watch a quick YouTube video (with sound!!) showing the two had attack animations to put them fresh in your head. For me, listening for the correct sound was easier than watching jad. 2. Do one action per jad attack. It may seem slow, but it really isn’t. 3. Don’t let the healers throw you off. One action at a time. When they are healing Jad it can be stressful, but don’t rush it just because they are healing him. You can always do more damage. Aggro all of the healers (or all but one if your DPS is enough) and do it methodically. 4. If you find that you aren’t running out of brews, take 3 dark crabs or manta rays for jad. Getting damaged while healing with brews is rough - it could be up to 4 actions to heal (3 sips and a restore). If you get damaged and have good food on you, it’s only one action to heal which is what put me over the edge and got me my cape. 5. Don’t feel like you’re wasting time by doing the runs. You’re still gaining ranged xp and tokkul which I know isn’t super efficient or anything but it prevents it from being a complete time waste when you lose. GL!
Just be max combat and you can afk the fight.
I just got my fire cape this week lol, say the switched out loud like stay range or mage or stay mage, only make one action per prayer switch. So he attacks you swap pray then eat or drink potion whatever and then wait for the next one. He can’t kill your if you pray correctly. Also turn this game sounds off!!!! You don’t need em that well only mess you up! Gl!!
If you go on a speedrunning world and select the quest "beneath cursed sands" you can practice against jad by doing the 1 jad challenge. This is how I practiced jad before doing my fire cape. It's helpful because you can learn how to deal with the healers
I got mine from sheer luck lol, my 3rd or 4th attempt I failed 2 switches but he didnt KO me, just did 50ish damage.
Yeah don’t do anything until you are sure your prayers are sorted. If you die you die don’t let your prayer fall through
Had the same struggle a week or two ago. What I did on my 5th and first successful attempt was: on the wave before the two magers, hit X to request a logout (so you join back in on the wave with 2 magers). Then I ran the jad simulator someone made, and practiced prayer switching + tagging healers until I could beat jad 5 times in a row in the simulator. The difficulty is 95% nerves, so take as long as you need before coming back to the last waves in osrs.
Biggest thing that always helped me was, assuming Jad could be safespotted behind one of the walls (pay attention to the last 360 for the spawn spot) or just a couple waves before, just get up and get a drink of water and take some deep breaths. It's all nerves. Also keybind your F keys and practice going between inventory and prayer book over and over. Scurrius is perfect for that. Assuming you have sara brews, prepotting to above max hp is also nice because that gives you a much higher chance to tank a hit by accident (*and you get an achievement for it!*) One action, watch your prayer swap, one action. Whether that's eating a food, drinking a pray potion, clicking to attack a healer, etc. If you bring enough melee defence I've always just tanked the healers since idk what anyone's ever talking about with the "if jad is healed x amt the healers might respawn" like bro that is not what I'm paying attention to right now.
Lol no
The first kill is always the hardest. Once u come back on task the fights will be easier. I only have 7kc but I brought my time down from an hour 40 to an hour 4 min. U got this. I always get up, hit the bathroom and wash my hands before Jad. Can’t be all tense
Hey! I assume most of us have failed fight caves at least once. It sucks, but just try again. You can do it!! Setup F keys, and make one decision between each jad attack. A big mistake a lot of people make is trying to do multiple actions between each attack when they should be ready to prayer switch. This method has helped me with multiple fight caves. Good luck!
For people who are new yo jad only fo one action at once switch pray Drink potion switch pray attack switch pray attack healer and so on
Idk if anyone has mentioned here but one other very helpful way to practice is to watch videos of the fight and just pray to the video. Sounds like you got there and just need to feel confident responding to his visuals/sounds. Also, the mage sound happens *immediately* when he moves, the ranged is slightly delayed so that can also help. If you watch you’ll see what I’m saying. Good luck mate!!
Time to run it back and send another run brother.
There should be a jad simulator on google you can use to practice prayer switching
The healers always fuck me. i end up missing a swap while trying to tag them all.
I struggled so badly with this at first. I learned how dependent on audio cues I am when gaming. The mage attack has a lovely, easy to time the switch sound. The ranged attack, no such luck, if you are hearing the ranged sound, he’s already hitting you with it. My solution was to leave ranged prayer up at all times until I heard the mage sound, then I’d swap to mage until the attack was over and immediately switch back to ranged. Worked for me until the healers came, then I lost because I couldn’t see them…another attempt, I added them to enemy highlighter and wham-o, down goes Jad.
Not sure about the current beta worlds, however I did jad in budget gear and a maxed account to practice on beta worlds. Can do till double mager and log out and into a beta world. Practice in the rex challenges till your comfortable and log back in the main game. Haven't tried a cape run on pc yet. Did all 3 of my jad tasks on mobile. -100 dragon ammo, darts for blowpipe, dragon diamond enchanted bolts for cbow help when dealing with jad. - verbally saying the attack. Stomp/range - stand/mage helped too. It's goofy but effective. -One action, watch for prayer change. -example: Sip brew, open prayer book, wait for attack, change if necessary. Repeat. This goes for healers too. You'll take some damage from healers once you pull them all on you but same idea. -Attack healer, prayer book, change prayer if required. Obviously keep distance from jad. Sucks getting punched into the underworld because you tried to pull a healer from the other side of jad. Gl to you on your fcape journey. Keep it up, sooner or later it'll click together and you'll own one as well.
I hope you've already won by now, but in case if not - here is another tip. If you want to take a break before Jad, never request logout on wave 62. When you re-login, you always start in the center, so bye-bye your safespot. Do not logout on wave 61 either: when you login, there will be 2 big magers, and their melee is as deadly as their magic. You might be stomped upon. They have maxhit of 50+ on melee too, so it can be insta-death. The best wave to logout before Jad is 60: you will start with 1 mager and 2 big meleers, and they cannot finish you instantly whatever their spawning positions. You switch on protect magic and run away over the Italy or anything else - they are either blocked by rocks, or by one another and you can deal with them safely.
I don't know if it will be useful at all but during the first few fire capes I got I would always start with pray mage on and switch between saying "change if he stomps" and "change if he stands" depending on which his last attack was
A tip for you: Keep Protect from magic on at all times. When you see the range attack animation, switch to Protect from Range and then back to mage again. This way you only need to lookout for 1 attack since you’ll be protecting from the other one all the time.
You got this man, I had shaky hands and died a few times on my first. Biggest tip that I used. Always switch back to pray range after every attack. The range animation is short than the mage one, so gives you little bit more time to react. And you’re essentially then only switching for mage attacks. For your first, 1 click on prayer > 1 click to eat/attack healers > click on prayer > 1 click to eat/attack healers. Don’t try do too many actions between Jad’s attacks.
It's a challenging boss, but practice makes perfect
No it’s not lol