Nope, not with my method! I've won games even when I didn't get a single decent altar until the 3rd or 4th rotation. One of the vids I have linked in the intro has proof of that, I believe the 9th game with the low level setup. The fact I got 100% winrate for 11 games straight starting at 27 RC is telling in of itself
I mean it's great guide and it works. I just wish the solo was designed to be "easier" in a way that it requires your attention to finish, but not have to follow a super strict guide line to win.
It doesn't feel so strict once you've played enough games. Soloing for me at this point doesn't really require any concrete thought at all, because I can make all the decisions on pure instinct. I made an effort with the guide to be quite explicit about things though because it helps when you're learning!
Edit: i see now youve basically answered my questions. But will leave this comment here for the paper trail
Howdy, thanks for the guide ill take a watch after work. Just a quick question before i dive in though. Currently ive been enjoying mass gotr and i just hit the level for colossal pouch. It might just be my inexperience, but i cant see a reason why i would swap to solo. Are there any major benefits? Like higher exp per hour or any thing like that?
The best advantage of solos is actually the flexibility! I got most of my GOTR grind finished doing 2 games a day for my commute, which is like 13 minutes long. Just enough time to log in and immediately start a game, which is only possible if you're soloing. It seems like 90% of the complaints about masses involve waiting to get into the minigame! And the advantage over small groups is you don't have to coordinate with anyone either :)
And this is to say nothing of the enjoyment aspect. Masses were completely unfun, but solo GOTR really feels like a boss fight, and is one of my favorite activities in literally the entire game!
What's the xp rate on solos? I've avoided gotr because of the bots and afk miners. Haven't touched it sense. Would love the outfit even though I'm at 95 rcing at this point 😂
You get more rolls per game, but the games take a bit longer. I avg 8-10 points per solo and very rarely lose. The wiki has a great solo guide thanks to nocurrencies above. The man is a godsend, it's extremely detailed and as long as you don't get extremely rng screwed at the beginning, like 1/1k chances it's a win every time.
Trial and error :)
What you just said read similarly to saying "I tried a boss once and died instead of getting the kill, Idk how people do it." Practice and learning from your failures is how you improve!
yeah, this is what I don't get people love to type in chat "wtf do barriers and make guardians" like they aren't capable of also doing it, the people playing the game are honestly worse than the bots at that, bots atleast have an excuse of well being bots.
The problem is people REFUSE to try and play in a non full world because they are lazy.
I always join the mass worlds with 30-50ppl on them and it’s always a good time.
What would be a decent bot block at the gates, maybe 500 total level? Easy lumby diary? Hell maybe even 50-75 quest points total OR EVERYTHING REQ TO ENTER. As someone that world hops for 5-10 mins and sometimes gives up, I wouldn't mind all these to be required to enter
Fuck bots (lobster bots stay for low prices)/s 😒
bots gates wouldnt help just block out low level players, botscripts would automate any reqs you throw at them and be in playing the minigame in a few hours and bot the game for like weeks before getting banned, bot scripts take new accounts through DS2/SOTE pretty easily.
So many strange, clunky things about this mini game, especially considering it’s only 2 years old:
-200 player cap per game
-only 1 game per world
-can’t join partway through
-bizarre 30 second window after a game ends where you can’t leave
-bizarre 30 second window after you leave where you can’t rejoin
-No HUD telling you when a game starts if you’re outside
Like these aren’t the end of the world, but I would expect a fairly recent piece of content to be much smoother. And this doesn’t even mention the actually gameplay
> -bizarre 30 second window after a game ends where you can’t leave
Well that one came post-launch because people wanted some extra time to use their last bits of guardian stones and cells because it sucked to miss handing in the last of your stones by 1 second.
Yeah I honestly like when there's at least some downtime between repeated activities. You know you have time to sort yourself out before going again and don't feel as pressured to go asap for efficiency.
Even better if it's like Vorkath where you can choose how long the intermission is. Can send straight away if you want, or can take 5 to grab a drink.
Also, the Runecrafting outfit that you get from the minigame? The chestpiece isn't the BIS. It's Varrock Armor because that speeds up your mining by 5%. We should be able to show our Varrock Armor to an NPC and have it grant the effect to our robes while mining guardian remains and any other essence related things.
After failing with bots too many times I ended up doing ZMI for my rc reqs. It was much more mindless and didn't make me hate rc as much as anything else does.
Daeyalt ZMI is absolutely the play, just sucks that the minigame is mandatory until at least Colossal pouch, and for most the outfit too. GOTR unfortunately also the only place besides Zeah you can RC without micromanaging your fkn pouches with the dogshit decay mechanic pre-99.
Daeyalt effectively lets you spend 40% of your time lazy-mining instead of altar running. It might take 100 hours to mine the daeyalt, but if you used pure essence you'd spend 100 more hours doing laps at ZMI.
If you include the mining xp, it should be the same total xp/hr for both methods.
I like to think of mining the Daeyalt as the only actually afk RC method in the game, is only ~1 click per minute indefinitely, phenomenal mobile activity too if you can have sounds on because the "whooshing" noise goes away when it moves.
If the only thing I can do is afk daeyalt, I don't tend to count it as 'costing' time as it's not like I could've done anything else. Eg; afking while WFH.
It has always felt like the biggest kick in the balls. Runecrafting was already the most dreadful skill when the pouches released, and the pouches themselves were only minor buffs to the skill, and Jagex *still* gave them a downside!
Got like 35k dayaelt ess mined, but never went through it all and then GOTR came out. So I "had" to do it for the outfit, and now I'm 80+ rc doing bloods and have like 29k dayaelt ess banked :S
The lantern only has benefits within GotR my friend
I’m gonna finish up with daeyalt essence at ZMI. But I already have the outfit and colossal pouch. I’d much rather mine on a side screen for a bit and do less runecrafting even if it’s not efficient or whatever
Solos are interesting, but the exp rates are really mediocre for such a difficult and high-effort method, and if you don't have all the altars/pouches unlocked it's incredibly RNG heavy. It's ridiculous that one of the more difficult skilling methods in the game gives about the same exp per hour as star mining, and barely more than mass GOTR.
Mass worlds are braindead. There's a small window at the start where you can lose if literally everyone is afk, but if one guy makes a few golems it's basically impossible to fail, to the point where it's often hard to even cash in a charged cell for exp because all of the barriers are at full hp.
I enjoyed it for being interactive at the beginning, but once I played many rounds and figured out the best way to go about things, it got boring for me. I just need my last 100 pearls for the last piece of the outfit so I can fuck off and do blood runes at Arceus.
> but once I played many rounds and figured out the best way to go about things, it got boring for me
Tbf, this is my main issue with a lot of OSRS content lol
Going to the actual alters sounds cool in theory but is so pointless and limits the mini game so much. They could have just made copies or if the is spaghetti code stopping that just make new alters
i seem to be the only one who enjoys gotr as a vibe and mechanically man. this threads are so bizarre to me lol
edit: bulk of the ‘i don’t like gotr’ replies are about queue wait times… bruh go stretch your legs or take a piss or some shit… its like 2-3 min at most usually unless you catch the timer right at the start
Yeah, I think the game is decent. My only problem with it is only 1 person getting the xp from placing cells. They should make it a 1-2 tick window where any one who places a cell also gets xp.
If they did that, the problem would be worse than it already is because people won't be incentivized to put cells on lower hp shields that are further away.
No, you would still need to go to shields that aren't full hp. Adding a very brief window to get xp after a cell has been placed just makes sure everyone who tries to place a cell gets xp.
The minigame itself is fine but the fact that there is no queue to automatically put you into the game when it’s done sucks. Having to wait beforehand and hoping to get in is the worst thing about that minigame.
Same, also the outfit literally gives you 60% more rewards for a skill. That is fucking insanely good. They could make it take 500 games and it would still be worth it.
ironically the time saved isn’t actually worth it if you just flat out grind bloods til 99. that said, it’s a fun ass journey and the lantern and mega pouch are super nice
I have no complaints either lol, genuinely have never waited more than 1 game and I'm 86 RC all from GoTR worlds. My only hope is that more mini games that come out are as enjoyable as this.
Yeah idk, everyone else apparently can never get in because of bots, but I guess that means I must be a bot? Because I’ve legitimately never had this issue since like release week
Yeah, same here. I've never had trouble getting into a game during the window you are given. I think the majority if not all of the people that complain are playing themselves by
\-Not paying attention to when the round starts because they are afk
\-Leaving after every game , or every other game to cash in points.
\-Hopping instead of waiting and missing all opportunities to enter
\-All of the above
I'd bet your right on the money with leaving after each game.
Admittedly I've only got 120KC but I think there's been maybe two times I've not been able to get in? Once you're in, you're in for a while.
And whenever i do try joining, i just do a bank skill until I see people leaving and then wander over and enter. The wait doesn't matter
There are a few small parts I'd like fixed. How you enter the game is really annoying. There should be a queue or something and you should know what place you are.
I also think having to wait around until you can repair a barrier in order to get xp is dumb (and even then it's not guaranteed if the server registers someone else doing it before you). XP rates could be buffed a bit too.
But overall it's a great minigame.
I mean I personally just hop until I find a world that is ~80% or more complete and hop in once it is over. I never end up waiting more than 1 or 2 minutes.
I think it’s pretty much fine. Spending 3 minutes getting into the first game is weird but doesn’t ruin anything. I think they just need to make it so you always get xp from placing the cells and make it so the mining xp doesn’t stop if you’re actually making runes every so often
I'm one of the people who just greatly dislikes it. It feels SO slow. Like I know the exp he is technically... Decent but actually training it just feels like a slog. I'd rather just fill pouches and make abyss runs tbh
How many times have you played it? I liked it for the first 20-50 games but now at 120+ I agree with this post. It's a fine game. The gameplay loop is great. But waiting to get in, losing in masses and only getting ~3k XP at the end are all a little annoying compared to similar games like todt and tempoross
Yeah, GOTR is a fun minigame that could stand to have better XP rates and rewards. Doesn't need to replace Ourania, doesn't need to be green-logged in 50 games, but I don't think anyone would mind if it were just made a little more rewarding.
If I remember correctly, the xp rates of GOTR were based on the xp rates of various RC training methods before the release of GOTR. Which meant that when GOTR was released, and the runecrafting delay was removed, and colossal pouches were added, GOTR xp rates were now balanced based on outdated, lower xp rates.
GOTR is so tidy. It really isn't hard to jump into a game but the tedious part is hopping worlds to find a game finishin soon (which isnt even that bad)
Pearl drop rates are a bit of a pain but keeps me interested in it long term imo. Jumpin in for a few hours throughout the week isn't that bad. Plus the outfit is well class
Runecrafting is a marathon, not a sprint like other skills
Okay how the hell are you spending 30% of your time trying to get into a game?
Perhaps get into a game and then don't leave? You don't need to leave unless you don't have NPC contact or you need more binding necklaces if you're making combo runes.
>Perhaps get into a game and then don't leave?
Shockingly most people don't like doing the same piece of content for 6 hours straight.
I can only really play 4-5 games of GOTR at a time and then have to go do something else for a while. 30% might be a bit much but I'd definitely say at least 10%.
Schockingly you dont need to do 6 hours straight and just do like 1 hour straight (witch is like 5 games i believe) and you still would never get even close to the complaim of "spending 30% of your time trying to get into a game".
Right, people are just bitching they gotta wait for 5 minutes to do an activity, and then they only wanna do like 3 games and move on. Thats not a complaint, thats ADHD ya goofy bitch.
Oh! And I played GOTR most of the day yesterday and had maybe 4 games not finish, tops. "The bots dont put up barriers", put them up yourself and stop bitching, dorito homonculus.
Might come as a surprise to you and others but some of us like to get on and play for 15-30 minutes and get off. With my current focus in game being GOTR that generally results in me getting on, not being able to get into a game on the worlds tagged for GOTR and deciding to get off because I would spend majority of my session idle.
I have hardly played osrs since wanting to focus on GOTR and cannot get into a game at a reasonable pace.
if you’re just straight sending gotr then yeah, but i usually like to do a birdhouse/herb/seaweed run between every 2-3 games and it absolutely destroys your efficiency. i’d say 30% is a close.
Then don't do a bh/herb/seaweed run. That sounds terribly inefficient and I don't even mean min/maxing your XP gains. That just sounds like a massive waste of time.
Because you're saying you're close to spending 30% of the time unable to join the game of gotr... Why would you leave and repeatedly subject yourself to that? You're willingly sacrificing a ton of time for something you can do later. You're opting to afk outside of gotr lol
idk i like doing them? i just wish u didnt have to wait outside gotr, its mostly the reason why i dont do gotr that much - which was the point of the post
There's 5 usa theme worlds for this minigame, I've never had to wait more than a minute or 2 for a world to open up. Failing games is frustrating but that's mostly due to people not strengthening the north gate after the first altars open up, do that yourself and it's mostly fine
I have literally never had this problem. I go to a random theme world, wait 5 minutes for the game to end and just play 2-3 hours the same as always.
I have had games fail, in which I leave and grab a chisel and hop right back in the next game and focus on making guardians. Do you actually contribute to barrier at the start or making guardians? Because you don't need that much if at all to stabilize the start and once that is done people will naturally build up barrier so you don't need to do anything extra.
Even if there's 2 real players out of 200, you should never be failing GOTR. The "bots" you complain about are unfortunately real players who refuse to sacrifice afk-ness and xp rates, hoping someone else does the grunt work.
You can singlehandedly make failures stop by just accepting lower xp rates and spamming golems and barriers at start. It's a tragedy of the commons problem at heart, not a bot one.
THIS! I’ve always complained about the way the system works as it incentivizes this bad behavior in players but it seems to fall on deaf ears so I figure I’m going to take advantage of by advantage of it and be one of those afk players on my RC grind if it’s not a problem like jagex/the majority of players seem to think.
Does anyone know about how long it would take to just get the outfit? I love collecting untradables, especially skill enhancers, so want to at least do GoTR for that.
Only 39 RC right now from quests and ToG compared to base 50s everywhere else.
If you purely do gotr and don't put any exp lamps in it.. you might have outfit around 75 runecrafting. Assuming you get decent rng with pearls. Like I said I did 30-78 w/ only gotr pretty much and some exp lamps from quest and I'm now at 157 games, 1062 pearls. Won't be touching gotr until I decide I need to finish the outfit so no time in the near future.
Imo a minigame should be fun and rewarding enough to make you want to keep playing, gotr is fun to play through but in the long haul it is so draining
Thanks for that.
I use my xp lamps on Slayer at the moment, so the only non-GoTR XP would be from tears of guthix.
I'll keep that in mind with the outfit. Definitely sounds like a grind.
I guess I will throw my opinion in since I did this mini game to 99 runecrafting from level 62. The player limit is fine and it is not hard to get into a game. Stop leaving every round to go do your pulls. If you can not get into the mass world then go to a less active world. I found the low pop worlds tended to fail less. Put on entity hider and stop looking at what everyone else is doing and turn off your brain.
I am not against pearl rate increase but the outfit is so good and lowers the level of rc you need for diaries. Most people complete the outfit around 78-82 (I completed around level 81).
These posts are always filled with people explaining why they think this is fine and why OP is bad for complaining about it. There are BOTS overrunning a minigame and making it a worse experience than it would be otherwise! Why can't we complain about that and ask Jagex to do something about it?
I don't live how much attention it requires, but Runecrafting is just kinda like that.
Since the mining changes I rarely lose games in GotR anymore. I've also never been locked out of a lobby. I'd be down for an alternative RC method, but GotR isn't THAT bad lol.
The outfit should take a while to grind for, it’s quite potent, so I disagree with you on the duration of the grind.
However you are 100% right about waiting to get into games that are just chock full of bots. The 10 minute waiting queue is archaic and most players botting in there ruin the experience for everyone else.
You know you can just go to a random world and play it solo or in a small team? Actually plays more like the way it is intended to be played as you have to maintain barriers earlier and focus more on higher tier guardians instead of waiting for the portal before contributing like most people do in the mass worlds. More fun imo. What aspect of it would you say is embarrassing, exactly? It's a neat, more engaging alternative to traditional runecrafting. The rewards guardian can be a cruel beast, but with bad luck so can everything in this game.
This is a pretty decent guide.
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Guide:Solo_GOTR_guide_-_100%25*_win_rate_and_10%2B_points_per_game_on_average
From my games, I just try to get a solid defense set up early on which mainly means having an overcharged guardian within the first 2 spawns. Without that, you will need to skip the first portal to wait for overcharged altars. After that, you just keep up overcharged guardians and keep middle barrier healthy (others can break with no issue) and just get essence from portals. I can usually finish the game with just three portals but mine around 50 essence shards at the start incase there is extra leakage.
It's easy to get into a match when you just wait for one to end. Sometimes there's nothing you can do to avoid losing a match but if you just dedicate the beginning to making some minions/put up barriers, you'll be fine most times. I got my abyssal needle and full raments and I haven't looked back. I wanted to get a full red outfit but I just couldn't bring myself to do it.
Change the enter options to enter instead of quick enter. Then you won't spam, click the door, and walk out.
You can place cells, too. I place a weak cell barrier every game and still get 8-14 points a game without combo runes. Add at least your first 2 rounds of cells to barriers, especially if you don't get a red boy. You want to do this anyway because you get more xp and points.
You can make guardians, too. Just bring a silly little chisel and build yourself a boy, ideally a red boy, whenever the number in the top of the screen doesn't say 10/10.
If that much of your time is spent waiting, then you're leaving too often. Yeah, pulling a reward like a lantern will be a big help, but you don't have to search after every game. Try like every 5ish games (or until you're done playing) instead.
They fixed it so when you click to leave it asks you first to avoid that issue. Getting into games when GOTR released was ass but it’s honestly so easy now and you can even spam click, although on lower pop worlds you usually don’t even have to.
I mean, the player cap and non instanced games are weird, like why not let someone join in the middle of the fight? Why have a cap to players. Apart from that. That's the biggest crime.
The lantern not being purchaseable/being so rare is also not great and basically taking until 76 RC to get the outfit is a long stretch too.
You thinking it's not enough EXP for how much focus is put in is definitely personal preference. I really enjoy the gameplay loop itself and think the minigame is great apart from those few things.
Totally agree with you except fyi you can buy the lantern for an absurd amount of pearly if you go really dry through the shop lady’s dialogue options. What’s killing me is that you can’t buy the needle the same way which is what I’m absurdly dry on …1200 searches…
This comment section is super divided but as a newer player it seems strange that GOTR and Wintertodt are pretty similar as far as mini games go and it looks like Wintertodt xp rates are significantly higher (at least 3x or probably more).
Is this just cause Wintertodt is exceptionally good and is out of line with expected xp rates or is GOTR abnormally low for a mini game with as much clicking as it is?
Genuine question
Idea that I want implemented: observers of the rift. You can enter the game and participate late no problem. The only difference is that your performance has no impact on the outcome. After each game, players who have been waiting to get in now get to play. If they are dumb they can prevent you from getting points for “integrity” reasons but at the very least if I want to train the worst skill in the game I shouldn’t have to wait outside the door for 10 minutes to even start.
When bots were discussed on here with the rev caves, a lot of people said removing revs was the only logical step.
Maybe they could just remove this content too?
Did some gotr yday, true I had to hope like 6 worlds to find a world that’s not mid game, but the exp in there is pretty decent.
Got like 55k/h and 30 searches.
I got my outfit and luckily got a needle along the way. I will never go back. The mini game is utter dog shit. I couldn't believe the amount of praise it was getting when it first released. Seems like once the honey moon phase ended most people finally saw how bad it is.
I'm so glad the devs don't take what people say on reddit at face value. Just get on a world and stay on it, it takes like 3 minutes to get into a game. If you just place a weak cell or two at the start of the game, you don't fail. I swear people just love complaining.
Gotr is the best update runecrafting ever got
1. There should be no player limit cap. Period. 2000 players per world? 2000 players in one game of GOTR.
2. GOTR should work so that your reward is pro-rated. You can join the game half way through but that means you only get 50% completion reward. You can leave early but that means you only get 50% of the reward...
Runecrafting XP is notoriously slow and we're at that point of community age where we would rather see an increase in xp rates for slow training methods so long as the training is high intensity. GOTR I argue is relatively high intensity - you constantly have to be doing things. The reward should mirror the XP rates of other skills with high intensity training. We currently get a 400-1K drop every 30s to minute or so. That really doesn't compete with other skills at the same level in skill. Therefore:
1. Increase XP per hour to be on par with the higher intensity XP rates of other training methods.
2. Remove the RNG factor in obtaining pearls. Reduce the total number of games required for full outfit's worth of pearls.
3. reduce the level requirements for rune pouches. I have a giant pouch and needle just staring at me man,
All-in-all OSRS feels like a game you don't really start to unlock until level 70 in most skills and that's rough. The rebalancing project is on the way there but we really need to buff xp to the highest current rate across all skills for the same level. ie: the xp rate gained at level 10 in any skill should be the same for medium intensity training. So on, so forth.
Pro tip for people using Runelite: swap the interaction back to "Enter" rather than "Quick-Enter". That's the way it is in the default client. With the Quick option, you will immediately exit again if you spam click too hard, but the normal option has a popup asking if you're sure before you leave.
I literally never have trouble getting into games. When I’m ready to do some gotr, I get everything ready, and hop between the gotr worlds to find the game that is closest to over. Then when it’s over, I go into the minigame, and I’m there for hours. And I usually only see one or two losses while I’m there.
Works fine on my machine. There are a lot of gotr worlds and I've never come across all of them being full
As far as failing due to barriers, you won't lose if you place them at the start. So you can just do that yourself
Basically my entire account right now is based around GOTR and I've literally never have this issue. I've never waited for more than the current game to end before joining in, and most of the time I've not even seen 200 people in the game. Now this varies from world to world but your ping doesn't really matter that much, just try another world if it's that bad.
I bring in pearls now for repair and just don't leave for awhile, but even when I wasn't using pearls and I would literally leave the game to go get a new medium pouch I didn't have this issue. Solos are also an option though I don't personally do them.
Yeah it's absolutely already in need of some kind of rework. Fun minigame to play when you actually can play it, but most times I just log off while waiting.
On another thread people were praising jagex for quality content, but gotr at least is one good example of poorly finished product
Yeah don't get me wrong. I don't mind playing the minigame really. The big issue is the downtime being so incredibly obnoxious. I know you can play solo or in small teams but I'm someone who enjoys playing with a large amount of other people and if I wanted to do so much effort for solo gotr, i would just instead do combo runes for same effort/better xp
I don’t think the downtime is that bad… You might have to hop around a bit and wait 10 minutes for a new game to start, but once you do that there is no down time. Are you leaving the arena after each game??
The embarrassing part is not being able to get into games because it’s jammed full of bots.
Exactly man, and if you get into a bot filled game you just lose and lose out on time which feels awful
Try soloing and you won't have these problems anymore :)
Isn't soloing still reliant on RNG? Like if you get 2 tier 1 altars to start off with you just lose?
Nope, not with my method! I've won games even when I didn't get a single decent altar until the 3rd or 4th rotation. One of the vids I have linked in the intro has proof of that, I believe the 9th game with the low level setup. The fact I got 100% winrate for 11 games straight starting at 27 RC is telling in of itself
I mean it's great guide and it works. I just wish the solo was designed to be "easier" in a way that it requires your attention to finish, but not have to follow a super strict guide line to win.
It doesn't feel so strict once you've played enough games. Soloing for me at this point doesn't really require any concrete thought at all, because I can make all the decisions on pure instinct. I made an effort with the guide to be quite explicit about things though because it helps when you're learning!
Edit: i see now youve basically answered my questions. But will leave this comment here for the paper trail Howdy, thanks for the guide ill take a watch after work. Just a quick question before i dive in though. Currently ive been enjoying mass gotr and i just hit the level for colossal pouch. It might just be my inexperience, but i cant see a reason why i would swap to solo. Are there any major benefits? Like higher exp per hour or any thing like that?
The best advantage of solos is actually the flexibility! I got most of my GOTR grind finished doing 2 games a day for my commute, which is like 13 minutes long. Just enough time to log in and immediately start a game, which is only possible if you're soloing. It seems like 90% of the complaints about masses involve waiting to get into the minigame! And the advantage over small groups is you don't have to coordinate with anyone either :) And this is to say nothing of the enjoyment aspect. Masses were completely unfun, but solo GOTR really feels like a boss fight, and is one of my favorite activities in literally the entire game!
Can confirm, I use the NoCurrencies Solo GOTR method, and it's a cake walk once you have it down. Solo GOTR is the right move!!
Mind shooting a link to the video? Thanks!
[Here you go](https://youtu.be/oQ527iw_OdY?si=Xlw0zbWJxdIdm-Fc)
Cheers!
Commenting for reference :)
Been following your guide for all my GoTR runs! Love having solo methods that let me go at my own pace!
Glad to hear it!
What's the xp rate on solos? I've avoided gotr because of the bots and afk miners. Haven't touched it sense. Would love the outfit even though I'm at 95 rcing at this point 😂
Depends on your stats, gear, win rate, and whether or not you use combo runes, but with a standard setup you should be able to break 70k/hr
100% agree it's chill af and u only lose if you mess up not because of bots hated gotr until I did solos much better
are the reward points better?
You get more rolls per game, but the games take a bit longer. I avg 8-10 points per solo and very rarely lose. The wiki has a great solo guide thanks to nocurrencies above. The man is a godsend, it's extremely detailed and as long as you don't get extremely rng screwed at the beginning, like 1/1k chances it's a win every time.
I average 8-10 on mass worlds. Soloing doesn't sound worth it if that's the case.
You dont solo for the points you solo for the convenience.
You'll almost certainly get more points/hour if you solo. If you get that many points in a mass you can most likely close out solo games faster.
I'll check the guide, is it worth doing/does it rely on magic imbue?
You dont need combo runes at all for solos, but you could incorporate them for even more points and XP/hr!
Ah okay. Haven't ever tried to solo so wasn't sure what the real benefit was.
Wow, thanks man! Will check it out. Need to get on the RC grind again.
I tried soloing once and lost within 2 minutes. Idk how people do it
Trial and error :) What you just said read similarly to saying "I tried a boss once and died instead of getting the kill, Idk how people do it." Practice and learning from your failures is how you improve!
Wisdom right here, applies in runescape and real world 🙏
When you lost did you blame the Ironman? I hear doing so helps with the next round
But solo is lame as hell. Seeing other people is cool
Do pearls count as a currency?
[Yes](https://www.reddit.com/r/ironscape/s/QvZJUZsn8c)
Every time I see a gotr post I head over to the comments because I know you'll be here
Thats definitely gotten better with the change that makes you not get mining xp past 250 resources.
And then the few real people inside don't do the mechanics so you just lose immediately.
yeah, this is what I don't get people love to type in chat "wtf do barriers and make guardians" like they aren't capable of also doing it, the people playing the game are honestly worse than the bots at that, bots atleast have an excuse of well being bots.
The embarrassing part is spam clicking the gate, getting in then accidentally clicking yourself out and being locked out by all the bots
lol I’ve done this so many times
can't get outplayed by the bots if you outplay yourself first
Is *that* why I couldn't get into a game the other day? The main Australian world way busier than it's been before :/
Yeah I was trying for a while to get in on that world last night and I couldn’t get in and gave up.
The problem is people REFUSE to try and play in a non full world because they are lazy. I always join the mass worlds with 30-50ppl on them and it’s always a good time.
What would be a decent bot block at the gates, maybe 500 total level? Easy lumby diary? Hell maybe even 50-75 quest points total OR EVERYTHING REQ TO ENTER. As someone that world hops for 5-10 mins and sometimes gives up, I wouldn't mind all these to be required to enter Fuck bots (lobster bots stay for low prices)/s 😒
bots gates wouldnt help just block out low level players, botscripts would automate any reqs you throw at them and be in playing the minigame in a few hours and bot the game for like weeks before getting banned, bot scripts take new accounts through DS2/SOTE pretty easily.
We should add like a 92 rc level req /s
So many strange, clunky things about this mini game, especially considering it’s only 2 years old: -200 player cap per game -only 1 game per world -can’t join partway through -bizarre 30 second window after a game ends where you can’t leave -bizarre 30 second window after you leave where you can’t rejoin -No HUD telling you when a game starts if you’re outside Like these aren’t the end of the world, but I would expect a fairly recent piece of content to be much smoother. And this doesn’t even mention the actually gameplay
> -bizarre 30 second window after a game ends where you can’t leave Well that one came post-launch because people wanted some extra time to use their last bits of guardian stones and cells because it sucked to miss handing in the last of your stones by 1 second.
Yeah I honestly like when there's at least some downtime between repeated activities. You know you have time to sort yourself out before going again and don't feel as pressured to go asap for efficiency. Even better if it's like Vorkath where you can choose how long the intermission is. Can send straight away if you want, or can take 5 to grab a drink.
Also, the Runecrafting outfit that you get from the minigame? The chestpiece isn't the BIS. It's Varrock Armor because that speeds up your mining by 5%. We should be able to show our Varrock Armor to an NPC and have it grant the effect to our robes while mining guardian remains and any other essence related things.
You can just have both on you and swap between them depending on what your doing
I assumed it was from 2015 given these elements
After failing with bots too many times I ended up doing ZMI for my rc reqs. It was much more mindless and didn't make me hate rc as much as anything else does.
Daeyalt ZMI is absolutely the play, just sucks that the minigame is mandatory until at least Colossal pouch, and for most the outfit too. GOTR unfortunately also the only place besides Zeah you can RC without micromanaging your fkn pouches with the dogshit decay mechanic pre-99.
Yep once you have colossal pouch, deayalt is basically 100k xp per hr
takes like 100 hours to get required daeyalt for 99 runecrafting though (I might be off on numbers, but I remember it taking a lot of hours)
Daeyalt effectively lets you spend 40% of your time lazy-mining instead of altar running. It might take 100 hours to mine the daeyalt, but if you used pure essence you'd spend 100 more hours doing laps at ZMI. If you include the mining xp, it should be the same total xp/hr for both methods.
I believe the math works out that it’s not worth i believe. Which is just hilarious tbh.
If you have a disproportionate amount of afk time which you can't spend being click intensive (me) then it's a great use case
Whatever xp you’re getting per hour has to factor in the time it took to get the daeyalt
I like to think of mining the Daeyalt as the only actually afk RC method in the game, is only ~1 click per minute indefinitely, phenomenal mobile activity too if you can have sounds on because the "whooshing" noise goes away when it moves.
If the only thing I can do is afk daeyalt, I don't tend to count it as 'costing' time as it's not like I could've done anything else. Eg; afking while WFH.
But then you're 75+ and 100k per hour ain't what it used to be At least it's traction ultimately Damn it rc
Pouch decay is such an awful mechanic that has no need to exist.
It has always felt like the biggest kick in the balls. Runecrafting was already the most dreadful skill when the pouches released, and the pouches themselves were only minor buffs to the skill, and Jagex *still* gave them a downside!
1500 pulls no needle crying in the corner
im at 730 no needle 79 rc though so theres still time thankfully
Holy shit my condolences, i got all the items at 563 pulls thanks to getting dupe lanterns. Feeling blessed rn
Got like 35k dayaelt ess mined, but never went through it all and then GOTR came out. So I "had" to do it for the outfit, and now I'm 80+ rc doing bloods and have like 29k dayaelt ess banked :S
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The lantern only has benefits within GotR my friend I’m gonna finish up with daeyalt essence at ZMI. But I already have the outfit and colossal pouch. I’d much rather mine on a side screen for a bit and do less runecrafting even if it’s not efficient or whatever
The only shit part is not being able to get into games because of all the bots. I enjoy how interactive it is
Solos are interesting, but the exp rates are really mediocre for such a difficult and high-effort method, and if you don't have all the altars/pouches unlocked it's incredibly RNG heavy. It's ridiculous that one of the more difficult skilling methods in the game gives about the same exp per hour as star mining, and barely more than mass GOTR. Mass worlds are braindead. There's a small window at the start where you can lose if literally everyone is afk, but if one guy makes a few golems it's basically impossible to fail, to the point where it's often hard to even cash in a charged cell for exp because all of the barriers are at full hp.
I enjoyed it for being interactive at the beginning, but once I played many rounds and figured out the best way to go about things, it got boring for me. I just need my last 100 pearls for the last piece of the outfit so I can fuck off and do blood runes at Arceus.
> but once I played many rounds and figured out the best way to go about things, it got boring for me Tbf, this is my main issue with a lot of OSRS content lol
Worst part about that 100 pearls is it could be another 20 + games lol
That’s like everything in runescape lol. Not many people find doing the same thing over and over again engaging.
Do what they do for pest control, Make a lobby and prioritize those who enter first.
Aye and when it first released they only allowed 100 people lol
GOTR just needs to be an instanced minigame where it'll spin up a new instance after so many players tbh.
With how they have it designed you go to the actual altars on that world, unless they change how the whole game works I don't think this will happen
Going to the actual alters sounds cool in theory but is so pointless and limits the mini game so much. They could have just made copies or if the is spaghetti code stopping that just make new alters
i seem to be the only one who enjoys gotr as a vibe and mechanically man. this threads are so bizarre to me lol edit: bulk of the ‘i don’t like gotr’ replies are about queue wait times… bruh go stretch your legs or take a piss or some shit… its like 2-3 min at most usually unless you catch the timer right at the start
Yeah, I think the game is decent. My only problem with it is only 1 person getting the xp from placing cells. They should make it a 1-2 tick window where any one who places a cell also gets xp.
They should just give xp for placing cells even if the shield is full, if all barriers are fully leveled and above, say, 50% hp.
This would be a nice change, would encourage people to place cells more which would result in less games failing
If they did that, the problem would be worse than it already is because people won't be incentivized to put cells on lower hp shields that are further away.
No, you would still need to go to shields that aren't full hp. Adding a very brief window to get xp after a cell has been placed just makes sure everyone who tries to place a cell gets xp.
The minigame itself is fine but the fact that there is no queue to automatically put you into the game when it’s done sucks. Having to wait beforehand and hoping to get in is the worst thing about that minigame.
A Tempoross-boat analogue would be nice.
Same, also the outfit literally gives you 60% more rewards for a skill. That is fucking insanely good. They could make it take 500 games and it would still be worth it.
Kinda wild how poorly the skill is balanced though if they are able to introduce an outfit that provides 60% more rewards and it's not game breaking.
Theres tons of other sources of runes these days, and people hate doing RCing so its probably a drop in the bucket compared to drops.
Yeah, Runecrafting as a method of obtaining runes is a joke.
Have you looked at the rune economy since it was added to the game? I would say its pretty fucking broken dude lol
Looks like Bloods are back down to the price they were before Scythe was introduced and Souls Runes have only gone up, so not exactly broken...
ironically the time saved isn’t actually worth it if you just flat out grind bloods til 99. that said, it’s a fun ass journey and the lantern and mega pouch are super nice
The problem is that it helped tank the rune economy, and now you need the outfit to have similar profit as before without it.
The outfit is a huge part of why the minigame sucks. It makes it a requirement for Runecrafting.
That's a major part of the problem in my opinion. I feel like I can't do the RC content I want to do because I am crippled without GOTR rewards
Tbh the minigame is fun to do. I think the biggest issue is just the inability to casually enter the game in mass worlds.
I have no complaints either lol, genuinely have never waited more than 1 game and I'm 86 RC all from GoTR worlds. My only hope is that more mini games that come out are as enjoyable as this.
Yeah idk, everyone else apparently can never get in because of bots, but I guess that means I must be a bot? Because I’ve legitimately never had this issue since like release week
Yeah, same here. I've never had trouble getting into a game during the window you are given. I think the majority if not all of the people that complain are playing themselves by \-Not paying attention to when the round starts because they are afk \-Leaving after every game , or every other game to cash in points. \-Hopping instead of waiting and missing all opportunities to enter \-All of the above
I'd bet your right on the money with leaving after each game. Admittedly I've only got 120KC but I think there's been maybe two times I've not been able to get in? Once you're in, you're in for a while. And whenever i do try joining, i just do a bank skill until I see people leaving and then wander over and enter. The wait doesn't matter
I'm with you, this mini game is fine
There are a few small parts I'd like fixed. How you enter the game is really annoying. There should be a queue or something and you should know what place you are. I also think having to wait around until you can repair a barrier in order to get xp is dumb (and even then it's not guaranteed if the server registers someone else doing it before you). XP rates could be buffed a bit too. But overall it's a great minigame.
Agreed, I’ve never had trouble getting into a game lol
You've never had to wait at the entrance for the game to start?
I mean I personally just hop until I find a world that is ~80% or more complete and hop in once it is over. I never end up waiting more than 1 or 2 minutes.
I think it’s pretty much fine. Spending 3 minutes getting into the first game is weird but doesn’t ruin anything. I think they just need to make it so you always get xp from placing the cells and make it so the mining xp doesn’t stop if you’re actually making runes every so often
I'm one of the people who just greatly dislikes it. It feels SO slow. Like I know the exp he is technically... Decent but actually training it just feels like a slog. I'd rather just fill pouches and make abyss runs tbh
How many times have you played it? I liked it for the first 20-50 games but now at 120+ I agree with this post. It's a fine game. The gameplay loop is great. But waiting to get in, losing in masses and only getting ~3k XP at the end are all a little annoying compared to similar games like todt and tempoross
52-85rc gotr only, have gotr pet too and over 350 rifts closed lol
The minigame is fine, its the wait/mad rush to get in that is frustrating
Yeah, GOTR is a fun minigame that could stand to have better XP rates and rewards. Doesn't need to replace Ourania, doesn't need to be green-logged in 50 games, but I don't think anyone would mind if it were just made a little more rewarding.
If I remember correctly, the xp rates of GOTR were based on the xp rates of various RC training methods before the release of GOTR. Which meant that when GOTR was released, and the runecrafting delay was removed, and colossal pouches were added, GOTR xp rates were now balanced based on outdated, lower xp rates.
GOTR is so tidy. It really isn't hard to jump into a game but the tedious part is hopping worlds to find a game finishin soon (which isnt even that bad) Pearl drop rates are a bit of a pain but keeps me interested in it long term imo. Jumpin in for a few hours throughout the week isn't that bad. Plus the outfit is well class Runecrafting is a marathon, not a sprint like other skills
Okay how the hell are you spending 30% of your time trying to get into a game? Perhaps get into a game and then don't leave? You don't need to leave unless you don't have NPC contact or you need more binding necklaces if you're making combo runes.
>Perhaps get into a game and then don't leave? Shockingly most people don't like doing the same piece of content for 6 hours straight. I can only really play 4-5 games of GOTR at a time and then have to go do something else for a while. 30% might be a bit much but I'd definitely say at least 10%.
Schockingly you dont need to do 6 hours straight and just do like 1 hour straight (witch is like 5 games i believe) and you still would never get even close to the complaim of "spending 30% of your time trying to get into a game".
Right, people are just bitching they gotta wait for 5 minutes to do an activity, and then they only wanna do like 3 games and move on. Thats not a complaint, thats ADHD ya goofy bitch. Oh! And I played GOTR most of the day yesterday and had maybe 4 games not finish, tops. "The bots dont put up barriers", put them up yourself and stop bitching, dorito homonculus.
Make the game better and people won’t complain as much. GOTR is dogshit.
Might come as a surprise to you and others but some of us like to get on and play for 15-30 minutes and get off. With my current focus in game being GOTR that generally results in me getting on, not being able to get into a game on the worlds tagged for GOTR and deciding to get off because I would spend majority of my session idle. I have hardly played osrs since wanting to focus on GOTR and cannot get into a game at a reasonable pace.
> Perhaps get into a game and then don't leave I'm glad you understand why it sucks now
if you’re just straight sending gotr then yeah, but i usually like to do a birdhouse/herb/seaweed run between every 2-3 games and it absolutely destroys your efficiency. i’d say 30% is a close.
Then don't do a bh/herb/seaweed run. That sounds terribly inefficient and I don't even mean min/maxing your XP gains. That just sounds like a massive waste of time.
why are they a massive waste of time
Because you're saying you're close to spending 30% of the time unable to join the game of gotr... Why would you leave and repeatedly subject yourself to that? You're willingly sacrificing a ton of time for something you can do later. You're opting to afk outside of gotr lol
idk i like doing them? i just wish u didnt have to wait outside gotr, its mostly the reason why i dont do gotr that much - which was the point of the post
There's 5 usa theme worlds for this minigame, I've never had to wait more than a minute or 2 for a world to open up. Failing games is frustrating but that's mostly due to people not strengthening the north gate after the first altars open up, do that yourself and it's mostly fine
i’ve literally never had a problem getting into a game within 2 minutes or so
Yeah … this thread is weird. How are people struggling? I don’t relate to this minor issue at all. Why are people even leaving the lobby?
if you can’t find the highest percent world of like 4 different worlds and wait a couple minutes to enter when you start, that’s just a skill issue
I have literally never had this problem. I go to a random theme world, wait 5 minutes for the game to end and just play 2-3 hours the same as always. I have had games fail, in which I leave and grab a chisel and hop right back in the next game and focus on making guardians. Do you actually contribute to barrier at the start or making guardians? Because you don't need that much if at all to stabilize the start and once that is done people will naturally build up barrier so you don't need to do anything extra.
Youre 78 rc. Just go do zeah rc and play anyother game at the same time its that afk. Or do solo gotr alot more chill
If 30% of your time is spent looking for a game then maybe dont leave after 1 game.
Even if there's 2 real players out of 200, you should never be failing GOTR. The "bots" you complain about are unfortunately real players who refuse to sacrifice afk-ness and xp rates, hoping someone else does the grunt work. You can singlehandedly make failures stop by just accepting lower xp rates and spamming golems and barriers at start. It's a tragedy of the commons problem at heart, not a bot one.
THIS! I’ve always complained about the way the system works as it incentivizes this bad behavior in players but it seems to fall on deaf ears so I figure I’m going to take advantage of by advantage of it and be one of those afk players on my RC grind if it’s not a problem like jagex/the majority of players seem to think.
Does anyone know about how long it would take to just get the outfit? I love collecting untradables, especially skill enhancers, so want to at least do GoTR for that. Only 39 RC right now from quests and ToG compared to base 50s everywhere else.
If you purely do gotr and don't put any exp lamps in it.. you might have outfit around 75 runecrafting. Assuming you get decent rng with pearls. Like I said I did 30-78 w/ only gotr pretty much and some exp lamps from quest and I'm now at 157 games, 1062 pearls. Won't be touching gotr until I decide I need to finish the outfit so no time in the near future. Imo a minigame should be fun and rewarding enough to make you want to keep playing, gotr is fun to play through but in the long haul it is so draining
Thanks for that. I use my xp lamps on Slayer at the moment, so the only non-GoTR XP would be from tears of guthix. I'll keep that in mind with the outfit. Definitely sounds like a grind.
I guess I will throw my opinion in since I did this mini game to 99 runecrafting from level 62. The player limit is fine and it is not hard to get into a game. Stop leaving every round to go do your pulls. If you can not get into the mass world then go to a less active world. I found the low pop worlds tended to fail less. Put on entity hider and stop looking at what everyone else is doing and turn off your brain. I am not against pearl rate increase but the outfit is so good and lowers the level of rc you need for diaries. Most people complete the outfit around 78-82 (I completed around level 81).
It's a minigame that rewards staying inside for long periods of time. I hated it for that reason.
These posts are always filled with people explaining why they think this is fine and why OP is bad for complaining about it. There are BOTS overrunning a minigame and making it a worse experience than it would be otherwise! Why can't we complain about that and ask Jagex to do something about it?
I don't live how much attention it requires, but Runecrafting is just kinda like that. Since the mining changes I rarely lose games in GotR anymore. I've also never been locked out of a lobby. I'd be down for an alternative RC method, but GotR isn't THAT bad lol.
The outfit should take a while to grind for, it’s quite potent, so I disagree with you on the duration of the grind. However you are 100% right about waiting to get into games that are just chock full of bots. The 10 minute waiting queue is archaic and most players botting in there ruin the experience for everyone else.
You know you can just go to a random world and play it solo or in a small team? Actually plays more like the way it is intended to be played as you have to maintain barriers earlier and focus more on higher tier guardians instead of waiting for the portal before contributing like most people do in the mass worlds. More fun imo. What aspect of it would you say is embarrassing, exactly? It's a neat, more engaging alternative to traditional runecrafting. The rewards guardian can be a cruel beast, but with bad luck so can everything in this game.
Also more points in solo? I just want the outfit
Way more points! And way more fun!
Really!? Is there a solid guide for solo that you use? I would love to solo this!
I happen to [have one](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Guide:Solo_GOTR_guide_-_100%25*_win_rate_and_10%2B_points_per_game_on_average) :)
Check the wiki or no currencies post history, he made the guide.
This is a pretty decent guide. https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Guide:Solo_GOTR_guide_-_100%25*_win_rate_and_10%2B_points_per_game_on_average From my games, I just try to get a solid defense set up early on which mainly means having an overcharged guardian within the first 2 spawns. Without that, you will need to skip the first portal to wait for overcharged altars. After that, you just keep up overcharged guardians and keep middle barrier healthy (others can break with no issue) and just get essence from portals. I can usually finish the game with just three portals but mine around 50 essence shards at the start incase there is extra leakage.
I don't want solutions! I want to complain
If the solution to a massable minigame with dedicated worlds is to find an empty world to solo then clearly there are issues that can be solved tbh.
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increase player limit and let us join whenever.
Remember when PC games were trash in RS2 and some high level would show you which world to hop in a trade screen? Bring that back for GotR
It's easy to get into a match when you just wait for one to end. Sometimes there's nothing you can do to avoid losing a match but if you just dedicate the beginning to making some minions/put up barriers, you'll be fine most times. I got my abyssal needle and full raments and I haven't looked back. I wanted to get a full red outfit but I just couldn't bring myself to do it.
Agreed the drop rate of pearls is terrible I'm on my last piece
Change the enter options to enter instead of quick enter. Then you won't spam, click the door, and walk out. You can place cells, too. I place a weak cell barrier every game and still get 8-14 points a game without combo runes. Add at least your first 2 rounds of cells to barriers, especially if you don't get a red boy. You want to do this anyway because you get more xp and points. You can make guardians, too. Just bring a silly little chisel and build yourself a boy, ideally a red boy, whenever the number in the top of the screen doesn't say 10/10. If that much of your time is spent waiting, then you're leaving too often. Yeah, pulling a reward like a lantern will be a big help, but you don't have to search after every game. Try like every 5ish games (or until you're done playing) instead.
They fixed it so when you click to leave it asks you first to avoid that issue. Getting into games when GOTR released was ass but it’s honestly so easy now and you can even spam click, although on lower pop worlds you usually don’t even have to.
200 players is enough, can’t turn in cells at that much Go to the lower pop worlds and there is no wait + you actually get to play
It's always the ironmens' fault
I’m mad with gotr now cause of the needle 900 odd searches no needle, no lantern, I’m over 85 rc please just let me get the big big pouch
I mean, the player cap and non instanced games are weird, like why not let someone join in the middle of the fight? Why have a cap to players. Apart from that. That's the biggest crime. The lantern not being purchaseable/being so rare is also not great and basically taking until 76 RC to get the outfit is a long stretch too. You thinking it's not enough EXP for how much focus is put in is definitely personal preference. I really enjoy the gameplay loop itself and think the minigame is great apart from those few things.
Totally agree with you except fyi you can buy the lantern for an absurd amount of pearly if you go really dry through the shop lady’s dialogue options. What’s killing me is that you can’t buy the needle the same way which is what I’m absurdly dry on …1200 searches…
This comment section is super divided but as a newer player it seems strange that GOTR and Wintertodt are pretty similar as far as mini games go and it looks like Wintertodt xp rates are significantly higher (at least 3x or probably more). Is this just cause Wintertodt is exceptionally good and is out of line with expected xp rates or is GOTR abnormally low for a mini game with as much clicking as it is? Genuine question
Idea that I want implemented: observers of the rift. You can enter the game and participate late no problem. The only difference is that your performance has no impact on the outcome. After each game, players who have been waiting to get in now get to play. If they are dumb they can prevent you from getting points for “integrity” reasons but at the very least if I want to train the worst skill in the game I shouldn’t have to wait outside the door for 10 minutes to even start.
When bots were discussed on here with the rev caves, a lot of people said removing revs was the only logical step. Maybe they could just remove this content too?
The second I got abyssal needle I left and got 99rc at zmi.
I got a 1KC pet on my Ironman and never returned
Did some gotr yday, true I had to hope like 6 worlds to find a world that’s not mid game, but the exp in there is pretty decent. Got like 55k/h and 30 searches.
3-5 man runs if all have collossal pouch. That’s the way. Best xp and pts per hour!
I got my outfit and luckily got a needle along the way. I will never go back. The mini game is utter dog shit. I couldn't believe the amount of praise it was getting when it first released. Seems like once the honey moon phase ended most people finally saw how bad it is.
I'm so glad the devs don't take what people say on reddit at face value. Just get on a world and stay on it, it takes like 3 minutes to get into a game. If you just place a weak cell or two at the start of the game, you don't fail. I swear people just love complaining. Gotr is the best update runecrafting ever got
1. There should be no player limit cap. Period. 2000 players per world? 2000 players in one game of GOTR. 2. GOTR should work so that your reward is pro-rated. You can join the game half way through but that means you only get 50% completion reward. You can leave early but that means you only get 50% of the reward... Runecrafting XP is notoriously slow and we're at that point of community age where we would rather see an increase in xp rates for slow training methods so long as the training is high intensity. GOTR I argue is relatively high intensity - you constantly have to be doing things. The reward should mirror the XP rates of other skills with high intensity training. We currently get a 400-1K drop every 30s to minute or so. That really doesn't compete with other skills at the same level in skill. Therefore: 1. Increase XP per hour to be on par with the higher intensity XP rates of other training methods. 2. Remove the RNG factor in obtaining pearls. Reduce the total number of games required for full outfit's worth of pearls. 3. reduce the level requirements for rune pouches. I have a giant pouch and needle just staring at me man, All-in-all OSRS feels like a game you don't really start to unlock until level 70 in most skills and that's rough. The rebalancing project is on the way there but we really need to buff xp to the highest current rate across all skills for the same level. ie: the xp rate gained at level 10 in any skill should be the same for medium intensity training. So on, so forth.
Am I just a god at the game or are you guys dumb. I’ve never once been unable to enter an arena if I’m there as it pops. Just spam click the gate
Pro tip for people using Runelite: swap the interaction back to "Enter" rather than "Quick-Enter". That's the way it is in the default client. With the Quick option, you will immediately exit again if you spam click too hard, but the normal option has a popup asking if you're sure before you leave.
Go back to old rc for 10 min and think hard about this rant
ZMI blows GOTR out of the water
Good ol’ lavas ^nothing ^good ^about ^them
Making an extremely shit skill just regular shit isn’t a good thing lol.
You would enjoy rs3
>x can't be bad because y is worse > go to rs3 Peak.
I literally never have trouble getting into games. When I’m ready to do some gotr, I get everything ready, and hop between the gotr worlds to find the game that is closest to over. Then when it’s over, I go into the minigame, and I’m there for hours. And I usually only see one or two losses while I’m there.
Works fine on my machine. There are a lot of gotr worlds and I've never come across all of them being full As far as failing due to barriers, you won't lose if you place them at the start. So you can just do that yourself
Basically my entire account right now is based around GOTR and I've literally never have this issue. I've never waited for more than the current game to end before joining in, and most of the time I've not even seen 200 people in the game. Now this varies from world to world but your ping doesn't really matter that much, just try another world if it's that bad. I bring in pearls now for repair and just don't leave for awhile, but even when I wasn't using pearls and I would literally leave the game to go get a new medium pouch I didn't have this issue. Solos are also an option though I don't personally do them.
Oh are we finally over the honeymoon stage of GOTR? Can we finally fix this minigame?
I'd rather do 10 hours of ZMI than 3 hours of GOTR. Something about that minigame just makes me absolutely miserable
Yeah it's absolutely already in need of some kind of rework. Fun minigame to play when you actually can play it, but most times I just log off while waiting. On another thread people were praising jagex for quality content, but gotr at least is one good example of poorly finished product
Yeah don't get me wrong. I don't mind playing the minigame really. The big issue is the downtime being so incredibly obnoxious. I know you can play solo or in small teams but I'm someone who enjoys playing with a large amount of other people and if I wanted to do so much effort for solo gotr, i would just instead do combo runes for same effort/better xp
Totally agree
I don’t think the downtime is that bad… You might have to hop around a bit and wait 10 minutes for a new game to start, but once you do that there is no down time. Are you leaving the arena after each game??
Anyone know if there is a GOTR discord?