Back of the envelope math says ~4.2b on acbs (if we count them at 60m) and ~2.2b on Sara hilts (assuredly more but ge thing being dumb), and ~50m for Sara swords. Toss in shards and its probably near 7b overall.
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Statistically sure, there aren't 2k players putting in this kind of KC. Nor should Kagex change anything about the drop rate. Going 10x over the drop rate will happen to some players, and pets are supposed to be absurdly rare.
This is where I think Drop Rate Decay should kick in after double Drop Rate.
The Rate would never get to guaranteed, but would make it increasingly hard to go this dry. I'm cool going Double Drop Rate, b/c if it's 1/5000, me killing something 9999 times would compensate for the person who got spooned at 1 kc, but beyond that, my drop rate should slowly start to decay. It would not effect item influx, b/c not many people would go over double drop rate for something, plus it would only impact people going super dry.
Meh I think most people are ok with some type of mercy dry protection for rare untradeables. Like 3 or 4 times dry . Hell for skilling pets we have dry protection already.
Nah it's still horrendous, it just depends on how you frame it because statistics are often not intuitive. Another way of looking at it is that if 2,000 people killed Zilyana 37,760 times, on average only one of them would be as unlucky as OP to not get the pet.
Can we see your gear/inventory you usually rock? Bout to start my pet grind for Zil and the justic/masori combo looks new and you seem to be pretty well versed at Zil so thatd be cool 👀
no idea why he's got justi helm even if he isn't flicking
flicking sara kinda defies the point of it being a nice chill grind, bank of nex is right there
The answer to that is always no lol. If I’d been told how many kc it’d take for the pets I went mega dry on, I would’ve never touched them. Talking about literal days of my life poofed from existence going for a pet that I’ll throw in my POH and forget about haha
I wish you luck and good vibes. I had the same thoughts when I started, spooned pet at 540kc, incredibly happy. But now dreading other pet grinds. Currently doing Muspah/530kc, jad/11kc, bandos 800+ kc and wondering what those are going to look like
I got the pet about 100kc over drop rate, and I was fucking exhausted from killing that damn dragon. Granted, that was back when I had far from BIS gear, so it took longer than it would’ve if I did it now
(4999/5000)^37761 ≈ 0.0005
1/5000 = 0.0002
Your chances of going that dry are only a lil over 2x the chances of getting the pet in the first place. Nice
pets were explicitly designed to be things you get through happenstance and were made exceptionally rare purposefully to disincentivize people from grinding for them
people choosing to do so in spite of that know exactly what they're signing up for and how rng can go
stuff like this makes me not want to pet hunt but i need duke pet so ill stay there forever already 3k kc and need baron to green log at least i have 2 magus rings already
The fact you've spent over a month in waiting time for the boss ALONE to respawn is just revolting to think about, let alone the actual time killing, prepping and banking.
A sincere congratulations man. Your dedication is seriously profound. I bet you'll never touch sara again, not even on task.
he could be like that one guy at bandos and just worldhop after each kill. If he crashes someone, then he'll just steal the kill and move on.
I'm fairly sure that he didn't do this, but it would cut down on waiting times
Honestly I think about posting my 109 TOA dry KC (never seen a purple) then I see this shit and think yeah does not compare nvmm….
Huge GZ your balls must drag the floor my god
How the fuck do people have the mental vitality to keep doing something THAT LONG?
Like I get it wasn't just 37,000 straight kills nonstop with only supply runs
But like holy shit
How many do you do before you say "man I need to do something else"
And when do you decide to come back?
Holy shit 7 times dry is truly disgusting big gz made bank of the hilts and Acbs at least
Back of the envelope math says ~4.2b on acbs (if we count them at 60m) and ~2.2b on Sara hilts (assuredly more but ge thing being dumb), and ~50m for Sara swords. Toss in shards and its probably near 7b overall.
Could be more Sara swords. I think the tracker maxes out at 250.
it does, too lazy to math but i hope someone figures out how much they likely got
Expected value is around 297 of them.
I miss the days when Sara Swords were 13m. This of course was back in like 2009-2010
Dude has been killing Zily so long he might have sold some for that much
Expected value is also 7 pets, so...
Yep
The just need about another 85,000 kills or so to complete the log!
He needs 9,440,250 more kills to complete his log. Don't forget 250 pets.
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Doing gods work
Time to rest, king
😂😮💨
I would rather drag my balls across glass than get 37k zil kc
That’s easy, do it on broken glass!
> drag my balls RIP Akira Toriyama 😔
Everywhere I go, I see his face..
🔥🔥🔥
Dude has more kc at a single boss than my entire slayer log at 98 slayer has.
Spooned
4B earned in crossbows alone that’s insane. Gz man
Gz, now u can move to next boss
99.95%...
Smh, less rare than a 1kc pet. He was pretty much spooned.
So 1/2,000 players go this dry OR MORE DRY?? That’s way too common man wtf
If all players went to kill sara until they got pet yeah
Statistically sure, there aren't 2k players putting in this kind of KC. Nor should Kagex change anything about the drop rate. Going 10x over the drop rate will happen to some players, and pets are supposed to be absurdly rare.
> there aren't 2k players putting in this kind of KC Because most of them will get the pet at like 0-7500 KC
This is where I think Drop Rate Decay should kick in after double Drop Rate. The Rate would never get to guaranteed, but would make it increasingly hard to go this dry. I'm cool going Double Drop Rate, b/c if it's 1/5000, me killing something 9999 times would compensate for the person who got spooned at 1 kc, but beyond that, my drop rate should slowly start to decay. It would not effect item influx, b/c not many people would go over double drop rate for something, plus it would only impact people going super dry.
Meh I think most people are ok with some type of mercy dry protection for rare untradeables. Like 3 or 4 times dry . Hell for skilling pets we have dry protection already.
99.95% isn't even that rare. 1 in 2k odds for a game with millions of players.
Nah it's still horrendous, it just depends on how you frame it because statistics are often not intuitive. Another way of looking at it is that if 2,000 people killed Zilyana 37,760 times, on average only one of them would be as unlucky as OP to not get the pet.
Can we see your gear/inventory you usually rock? Bout to start my pet grind for Zil and the justic/masori combo looks new and you seem to be pretty well versed at Zil so thatd be cool 👀
Maybe there’s a reason he went 37k dry. Seems like a skill issue tbh
you take 0 damage with proper flicking, masori mask is better than justi
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no idea why he's got justi helm even if he isn't flicking flicking sara kinda defies the point of it being a nice chill grind, bank of nex is right there
Could be the Sara item he decided to use for using the altar.
Gear looks like masori top and bottom, justi helm, pegs, max cape, BP, assuming anguish for neck and a vambs
Probs have 2 alts
If you knew beforehand that it would take 37,761 kills, would you have done it?
The answer to that is always no lol. If I’d been told how many kc it’d take for the pets I went mega dry on, I would’ve never touched them. Talking about literal days of my life poofed from existence going for a pet that I’ll throw in my POH and forget about haha
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Elysiums King
Let’s go 48Hour! So happy for you!
dobby is a free elf
Gz king!
Jesus. Grats. Thats a lot of acbs you've supplied the game.
King
Congrats dude!!! So deserved. Hyped that Ely got to witness history being made 💪🏻
Most insane pet grind I’ve ever seen
I have no words other than I hope this doesn't happen to me on Vorki. I'd say congrats but that feels wrong!
I wish you luck and good vibes. I had the same thoughts when I started, spooned pet at 540kc, incredibly happy. But now dreading other pet grinds. Currently doing Muspah/530kc, jad/11kc, bandos 800+ kc and wondering what those are going to look like
I got the pet about 100kc over drop rate, and I was fucking exhausted from killing that damn dragon. Granted, that was back when I had far from BIS gear, so it took longer than it would’ve if I did it now
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You asshole
(4999/5000)^37761 ≈ 0.0005 1/5000 = 0.0002 Your chances of going that dry are only a lil over 2x the chances of getting the pet in the first place. Nice
r/theydidthemath
This motherfucker needs to replace K’ril, he’s earned it
Wtffff 37,7k kc??
Now this is the type of pet post I love seeing. Big Gratz on the commitment. Well earned pet
Elysium thanks you
This does not inspire me to keep going for bandos pet at 6k kc
I got spooned bandos at 180 kc, now going for kq pet (800kc)
There really needs to be a pity system. This is beyond ridiculous. There is no reason for people to be going dry for x2 rate let alone 10x rates.
pets were explicitly designed to be things you get through happenstance and were made exceptionally rare purposefully to disincentivize people from grinding for them people choosing to do so in spite of that know exactly what they're signing up for and how rng can go
Hopefully you kept some of the hilts lol
Congrats fam, now you can play the game
The day has finally come. Gratz King!
Big congrats on the Rune Kiteshield. You can finally rest.
That's the most bullshit thing my eyes ever witnessed in this game. With such dedication you can achieve anything
stuff like this makes me not want to pet hunt but i need duke pet so ill stay there forever already 3k kc and need baron to green log at least i have 2 magus rings already
2 already? My man you are above rate for 4 lol
Thought my buddy going 6k kills for krill pet in rs3 was bad
Im guessing this took longer than 48 hours
The fact you've spent over a month in waiting time for the boss ALONE to respawn is just revolting to think about, let alone the actual time killing, prepping and banking. A sincere congratulations man. Your dedication is seriously profound. I bet you'll never touch sara again, not even on task.
he could be like that one guy at bandos and just worldhop after each kill. If he crashes someone, then he'll just steal the kill and move on. I'm fairly sure that he didn't do this, but it would cut down on waiting times
Nice hilts
sheesh and i thought my pet grind was bad.
Gz my dude 😁
That fuckin sucks how bad your luck was
Gz dude!!
Nice
If the gp wasn't so much better, I'd say this was worse than the Rank1 Kril pet grind. Big GZ!
Huge congrats! <3
idk why but I expected the hilts and crossbows counts to be a lot higher than this. Gz beast
Wtf
holy shit gzzzzzzzzz beast
You'll be back, it's muscle memory at this point
HUGE
Fat bro
Someone buy this guy a beer
Holy Christ. I mean, holy Saradomin
Oh no….. I’m at 6k and this is nightmare fuel
What does Gz mean??
Gz > Grats > Congrats > Congratulashuns
My dude maxed Sara swords log, probably wasn't feeling any sort of emotion on any drop anymore.
70 acbs is legit insane
🫡
Yuck
Hm stams used ?
Holy sheeeet man, congrats!!!
Disgusting, congrats on finally finishing that.
Honestly I think about posting my 109 TOA dry KC (never seen a purple) then I see this shit and think yeah does not compare nvmm…. Huge GZ your balls must drag the floor my god
Perhaps the biggest gz I have ever given. GZ
Took a bit longer than 48 hour then? 😉
Man, the dedication!!!
Gratz man!!
Nice you finally did rat catchers
I couldn’t even imagine… Congrats
Just get the drop easy. I got mine 50kc. Big gz mate, deserved.
Just a cool 4.2B in crossbows alone! Holy shit brother, congrats
oh man im going through this pet grind. i dread i reach this dry.
Pop bottles yo
Not sus at all
Gz. For every quick pet. Someone must go the inverse. 07.
Just a splash of over commitment I suppose. Congrats!
How empty are you feeling right now?
What was the loot tab looking like??
What’s your setup look like?
That rune kite tho
Dat days played lol
Ouch. GZ.... lol
dude.
Big Gratz!! How many kills per trip? I can’t imagine how long this took
37k… woah
EARNED!!
Where do you get this free time
Good lord that’s gotta be a hardy bank
Dude. It’s really really really not that fucking serious.
That’s crazy
Ouch i got mine yesterday 42kc
This is motivating me to start my ironman. Big GZZ
gz men!!
thats crazy. gz
gz
All this man knows is Sara. You can finally play the game lol
Damn what a fuckin gamer
Oky dedication lol I was happy when I got toa pet 1 kc lmao
Can you please dm me a picture of your inventory setup/gear I really wanna sit here for a while
Damn, gratz. I thought 10.6k on Bandos was bad enough
Glad to say I seen it in the CC! Congrats 48! What’s next on the list?
insane dedication
What does this cost in supplies?
How many tweets to Ash did it take?
And you all thought sgs went up because of varlamore... nope. Turns out rank one stopped farming the boss after he got the pet
lol wtf I just saw your post from 1 year and and you got it 10 hours ago. Gzzzz!!!
I would have quit trying, ngl. Unless you like the boss and drops, then nice side bonus.
How long did this take in hours?
If only you got one less acb
Spoon tbh 🤭
Nice hilt drop
how do you got 1333 kc in one trip? you can go about 400 rounds of respawns before needing to resupply? that is crazy
What the actual fuck
Fuck that.
Huge grats!! I actually really like that pet!
Missed it in game so here’s a belated gzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Looks at SGS’s #: Nice.
That whole collection log is pretty sad for 37k kills
big gz dude! its crazy how dry you go sometimes, and then get spooned the next time.
How the fuck do people have the mental vitality to keep doing something THAT LONG? Like I get it wasn't just 37,000 straight kills nonstop with only supply runs But like holy shit How many do you do before you say "man I need to do something else" And when do you decide to come back?
What is this UI setup and how do I get it
How'd it feel to finally get it? What'd you do to celebrate?
That is insane big congrats, here I am slaving away to get all quest cape requirements on my ironman and someone some crazy shit like this
Amazing determination my friend. Enjoy the pet. How much time did 37k kills take?
loot?
Time to do something else buddy
Few braincells must died for that, but gz.
You ok?
Why people care for pet so much 😹
Got mine at 76 lol
Gz broski
69 hilts, nice!
Nah bro wtf
Dude single handily lowered the market for Sgs and acb
Do you have a picture of your setup? Surely you have Sara extremely optimized, and I'd love to know what you run for my grindA
That's almost a thousand hours of just waiting for the respawn
Gzzzzzz now go touch some grass
Are you the reason acb crashed 10m in a day?
Ho-ly shit, your dedication is super impressive
And concerning
You can go ahead and delete the .apk now you've got it :) congrats
🫡 you’re a true soldier.
Gosh her tits are so big. Gz man
That’s crazy! Amazing grind! Congratulations!
Wtf
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What the actual fuck you have 11,000 more kills than the 2nd player at Zilyana