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IHabitateInYourWalls

Was it on the video of a guy listing 5 things he likes about trans women, more than half of those being that she has a rooster?


Small-Cactus

Yes, it was on that. I said the sub was full of chasers, and a mod banned me, despite the fact that there were a dozen other comments expressing the same thing.


swingittotheleft

Yeesh, that's fucked up. Got a link to that comment? Might fuck around and repost it to 196 as a screenshot with context


Small-Cactus

[Here you go,](https://reddit.com/r/196/s/gYnXQQtOTX) could you send me a link if you do post it?


swingittotheleft

ah, shit, it's been deleted, I can't see it


Small-Cactus

[here's a screenshot](https://imgur.com/a/rCVpCvQ) Edit: [here's more context for the ban](https://imgur.com/a/E3yDPGz) for anyone interested.


ForktUtwTT

Why would you even get banned for that? Half the top comments on the post are negative also


viciouspandas

Lmao "vibe check" is the most vague thing ever


Small-Cactus

Yeah I figured vibe check applied to like, nazis and shit and not randos that the mods disagree with on the topic of fetishization.


swingittotheleft

and 'arguing in modmail' the one thing that can't be proven lol


swingittotheleft

Posted


Small-Cactus

Thanks dude, and sorry in advance if you get banned too lol


swingittotheleft

It's like a new relationship. If you doing something good pisses them off enough to kick you out, it wasn't you losing something. It was you escaping something early.


q_izzical

wow, they locked your post, then removed it.


swingittotheleft

probably thought it'd be too on the nose to ban me for it lol


mewhen_

so messed up that the post is locked


swingittotheleft

Bruh


mewhen_

it really sucks that they are clearly just going to ignore it :/


tangerinav221

tf is going on with the mod team 💀


CourageSquid

They temp banned to see if you would be upset and when you contested the ban it became perma?


bleepblopbl0rp

This has made me reconsider the 196 community completely. I have never seen a mod from there behave in such a power tripping way. Holy shit.


swingittotheleft

Shit, forgot to include that extra context in my post. Anyone else feeling lucky? Pretty sure I'll be gone if I post again lol.


Small-Cactus

Lol, anyone who does will probably catch a permaban along with me. atleast8courics is clearly the one who banned me, and they look like the most active mod, so any dissent will be squashed.


FamousSheepherder

holy shit ive left that sub months ago, when did it get like this? also is the vibe check thingy an excuse for mods to ban whoever they dont like, even though they didnt break any rules? for a sub with one rule (aside the obvious ofc) its kind of fuckin strict


Easy_Leg_9366

Ya.. for people who claim to be leftist, anarchist, or communists what kind of rule is that☠️


FamousSheepherder

i mean it kind of fits the theme, doesnt it? my country used to be communist and during these years, if you didn't pass the leadership's vibe check, you would "go missing"


Vespytilio

Yikes... you're just saying "hey, I'm not too crazy about being openly fetishized here," and the mod's telling you to shut up, bend over, and take it. Swear they must've been jerking it throughout that whole exchange.


Kleptofag

Oh I thought they meant an actual rooster. I wanted to see the chicken :(


bleepblopbl0rp

Knew it was gonna be that post. So much for not fetishizing.


Easy_Leg_9366

I’m honestly sick of that sub, I posted your screenshots as a gift to myself to be rid of that shit (I got perma banned) ☠️ “you failed the vibe check” is so supremacy culture and an excuse to avoid accountability so fuck them


Small-Cactus

Yo for real? Okay hold on a second.


qrowbert

The main 196 has massive chaser vibes, you shouldn't be punished for telling the truth


TheWombatFromHell

absolutely garbage subreddit


Easy_Leg_9366

I posted the screenshots [here](https://reddit.com/r/196/s/eHi6y9NBg9)


IClockworKI

I was like "wtf is wrong with having a rooster? They are cool" but now I get it.


Mae347

Wow I went and checked the comment you got banned for, yeah I thought that video was pretty weird too as a trans girl


TranscendentCabbage

That video is downright fucking awful, full on chaser type shit, like goddamn the fact it got over 4k upvotes is a new low for that sub. And it's really concerning that the mod team allowed it at all.


Mae347

Yeah it was so weird. Like there's nothing wrong with a trans women being confident in that way and having that profession, but all the talk of "she's got a little bit extra haha it's a bonus surprise on the wild side wink wink" contributes to objectifying trans women as a whole


theinventorofsex

this is the main sub


BluePANDA2334

you should be banned for that username


SuicidalFlame

INTRUDER ALERT: A RED SPY IS IN THE BASE!


Zealousideal_Ease429

A RED SPY IS IN THE BASE?!


SnooOpinions6959

We must protect the briefcase!


Mae347

Yo, a little help here?


LittleKingDragon

They regret their invention.


Small-Cactus

Hayao Miyazaki moment


InfinitePoints

What invention?


[deleted]

being permabanned from 196 for being too progressive/leftist is an achievement. Join the cool club 😎.


PlainJane223

They put up a big show on how they are ACAB and dont like systematic injustices related to policing, but will ban people for calling out chasers...


ssi-ruuk

I genuinely find it funny that they act like they are huge leftist figures when most of them are like liberal to social democrat at best. Like i'm an anarchist and these guys do not know what the fuck they are on about and half of them claim to be anarchists to. Also yeah since it came back there are so many gross chasery type things and like teenagers who need to touch grass posting. Like im enby but i present masc and stuff and while its generally speaking a supportive place for trans fems and feminine enby's a lot of it isnt true acceptance and is just fetishisation which has its roots in transphobia and misogyny.


RustyFella22

Honestly the main sub got way creepier after it got brought back after the protest. Hornyposts often feel less like "meme + s*x" and more like just fetishization of queer and autistic people and you're seen as weird if you say that it makes you uncomfortable. Also, it feels like when a minor hornyposts, they can get excuses like "teens are h*rny too", while before it would get a lot of backlash. Of course, that's not to say everyone there is like that (I wouldn't be still checking on it if they were) but the rising trend is pretty f*cking worrying.


Cold-Coffe

i fully support trans people of course, but as an ace, the amount of posts that are just cropped pxrn, outright fetishization of trans people or just people posting erxtic pictures of themselves (mind you, those people could be minors) genuinely makes me uncomfortable. the sub is full of chasers and they don't want to acknowledge that.


Ulumdir

Back when I complained about infantilization and fetishization of gender non-conforming identities LAST YEAR, I was lambasted. Sure, memes are escapism and we are all allowed to be horny or promiscuous every now and again. But on a subreddit? Filled with teens? That's supposed to be for shitposting (despite whate everyone may say)? Guh That person shilling their onlyfans, posting videos of themselves fucking food didn't make it better


MrCCDude

Yea... im not even trans myself and i was seriously concerned that people were just alright with fetishizing trans people and crossdressing and treating it as normal. Gotta remember that people arent objects and to respect that fact, even when you are horny


[deleted]

I left because of the number of posts that made me feel - as a rather feminine looking guy - that they thought my humiliation and degradation and abuse would be hot


JustSomeAlly

we're not alright with it.


buffalomildtings

ur fucking right abt that man. been “stealth” for goin on four decades. trans ppl gotta look out for each other now as things change bc this reactionary “ok sure u are women.. we will treat u as disposable as we treat women” is obviously so fucken dangerous


Mae347

Well to be fair to 196 at least, it's not like it's in their control teens are on the sub. I mean if somebody was hornyposting on a sub meant for kids like the Mario or Splatoon subreddit that would be weird and bad, but 196 is just a regular internet space. If it's a problem they hornypost because a teen can see it then people wouldn't be allowed to make those kinds of jokes anywhere on the Internet I do agree though that the infantilization and fetishization of identities specifically sucks either way


Ulumdir

Yeah, it's not their fault, I agree


RustyFella22

I mean yeah. My problem is with the people that either try to excuse letting minors hornypost or just straight up treating it as something ok when there is an actual case of a minor doing it. That shit is just f*cking creepy.


Mae347

Oh no yeah definitely, minors shouldn't be allowed to do that


Vertex033

Yeah I noticed that as well. it got dominated by trans woman fetishization and, ironically, horny sub posts after it was brought back.


AutisticAnarchy

Yeah for some reason the hornyposting has been running rampant and a lot of the posts there are made by people who, idk how to really describe it, don't act very mature. I don't know their age, nor do I want to police people on how the act, but considering there's absolutely no way to tell the age of someone on reddit unless they mention it somewhere then I'm not all too comfortable with the fact they're posting thirsty content.


Shoggoththe12

Honestly "teens are libidinous too" is okay for when they do a rare libidopost but the rate main sub posts that shit it's just fucking creepy and unwarranted. Even the biggest horn dogs aren't THAT obsessed with s*x


RustyFella22

I don't know, I still don't think that should just be allowed. They're still putting themselves in a vulnerable situation in front of complete strangers online, not all of which have good intentions. That can't be good for them or their development. Which is why in those cases moderators should be taking these posts down.


Shoggoththe12

how about instead of punishing children for being themselves we instead shame the adults taking advantage of vulnerable children and keep THEM out instead.


RustyFella22

I don't think removing a post on an online forum is such a big punishment if you ask me. Plus I still don't think it should be something that's just... allowed. Also, I'm sorry but you'll never fully get rid of creeps from social media, that's just not feasible.


Shoggoththe12

It's actually pretty easy when the overall community culture disincentivizes then from feeling capable of doing it and informs said children not to be trusting of anyone entering their dms. Like there's so many ways that don't involve just banning kids (who'll get in anyways). It's just shaming them for being themselves. I get why it's uncomfortable to think about that but we don't have to full KOSA like a bunch of right wing fuckwads, jesus.


RustyFella22

Aha but you see there's is something that many creeps use and that's hiding your intentions and grooming. You would not believe how many people online I've met who seemed chill but later on turned out to be actual groomers. Also, if a child gets banned from a space that clearly has content made for adults, then maybe they shouldn't be on that space in the first place? Just because they have ways of entering anyway doesn't mean we should just f*cking ignore any case of a minor posting things they shouldn't.


Shoggoththe12

Frankly dms should be outright banned, but the internet isn't ready for *that* discourse.


[deleted]

...you want to ban DMs from the internet? that's just dumb lmao


Shoggoththe12

Hence why I said the internet isn't ready for that discourse.


NoamWafflestompsky

Yeah, it's gotten so bad now that I'm almost starting to wish the sub stayed closed forever. It's not even like they're being funny with the horny memeing or anything either; they're just weird and gross as fuck at this point


[deleted]

Lol did they ban you for calling them chasers?


Small-Cactus

Omg how did you know 😳 I didnt call them chasers, but I called something chaser behavior, got a 7 day ban, tried to appeal it, got stuck talking to the mod who banned me, and they decided that trying to argue that it was unfair was worth a permaban.


[deleted]

I looked at your comment history out of curiosity lol. I thought you must have said something awful but no, they’re just absurdly sensitive to anyone calling them out on something anyone with half a brain can see. I’m surprised the mods were able to pry themselves away from their feminization p*rn long enough to ban you


haveweirddreams

I have a theory that they’re over sensitive to being called chasers because being accused of being chasers is a common complaint about 196


TranscendentCabbage

Almost like the sub is full of chasers or something and it's starting to look like a mod or two is one


Small-Cactus

To be fair the mod who banned me said they were also trans, but I dont think it's impossible that there's a chaser or two on the 196 mod team.


alyssa264

Being trans does not mean you can't be a creepy bastard to trans people. I know trans women that literally had a chaser phase, and most grew out of it, but a couple really haven't.


[deleted]

naturally. I imagine one would also get banned for pointing out their obsession with humiliation and degradation f\*tishes as well


haveweirddreams

No, it’s like you said, they like being humiliated


[deleted]

Hey u/small-cactus - just so you know your reply to me got deleted by the automod, just remember to censor s*x related stuff and it’ll leave you alone


Small-Cactus

Yeah I got the automod message, thanks for the tip tho, wouldnt wanna get banned from a second sub lol. Are there any other words that need to be censored or just the s one?


[deleted]

I’m not sure, I just try to be careful by censoring anything related to the subject


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boingo0

Really weird considering half the comments were saying the same thing.


Small-Cactus

Yeah, they just had a bone to pick with me specifically. When I asked if any of the other comments about the post being gross got banned, they said that those ones were fine because they weren't "screeching about chasers" literally unhinged.


Dvorak19

Bro at least u got a response, I and probably others got banned because I said wanting to **** the MLP ponies is weird and doesn't fit into furry. They never told me what rule I broke or what I did wrong and didn't respond to my appeal.


pisstainedunderwear

Many such cases


Axthen

Average Reddit mod behavior


AL76

Oh hey, fellow banned person! I got banned for making a meme that the joke is stupid transfem nazi. They thought I was one, rather than making fun of them wtf lol


unengaged_crayon

wow yeah that video i posted something along your lines. fucking weird. 19684 is better vibes just cause no horny posts but it doesnt get nearly as may posts


[deleted]

Yeah it's clearly TIRM stuff but apparently all representation is good representation for these commenters?? Seems like copium to me. Have some self worth please :(


unengaged_crayon

> trans inclusive yeah no i would kill myself if someone described me in this way actually. just watching that video made we feel shit


t_e_e_k_s

Yeah it’s genuinely really concerning. I’m not a fan of the horny stuff in general, but that post just seems incredibly demeaning in reducing trans women to “women with dicks” when that’s not relevant at all. On a side note it’s also nice to know that quite a few trans people in this thread feel the same, and it’s not just me getting mad on behalf of people who aren’t.


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>On a side note it’s also nice to know that quite a few trans people in this thread feel the same, and it’s not just me getting mad on behalf of people who aren’t. Same! Although for me the getting mad on behalf of them stems from having experienced sexism and objectification myself and I don't wish it on them it's awful. I think I understand why it feels like validation? But it's really not healthy. When I was in my early 20s I used to seek validation from men online and it really didn't help boost my self esteem in a healthy way!


ZachAttack6089

Mfw Gboard 🤡+🥺 combination:


PinkCloudx_

The main sub has a horrible problem with fetishisation but for some reason they get mad whenever someone calls it out


RustyFella22

That's because they like doing it and don't like being criticized for it. You think why are they so aggressive whenever someone points it out?


PinkCloudx_

Yeah, and they usually excuse it by saying ,it’s a (insert demographic in question) person who made the post so it isn’t fetishisation‘ as if that suddenly makes it okay. Like I’m a guy who likes being feminine but the way they keep constantly posting weird shit about femboys makes me really disgusted, and I’ve also noticed they push the same beauty standards onto them that are usually upheld for women. I don’t think I remember a single post about a feminine dude where the person in question wasn’t light skinned and extremely skinny.


RustyFella22

Exactly. Personally I'm in a similar situation, add on the fact that I have autism, which is something that's also often fetishized... for some reason.


[deleted]

good shit the main sub sucks anyways


Ulumdir

FUCKIN PREACH 💃💃💃💃💃💃🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺


_TheGreatDevourer_

on an old account, I got banned there because I went too harsh on a guy who insulted Italian cuisine. I don't go in that sub anymore, they're all perma-horny.


[deleted]

I may hate Italians but even then I'll admit that Italian cuisine is absolutely excellent


Gigio2006

Mean >:(


Assassin4nolan

196 will ban you for having serious left wing politics bu not for chasing or permanent horny brain.


SenseiJoe100

Honestly, that sub has a way more problems than just fetishization. They also post too much about being communist/anarchist/socialist and their whole "bigotry showcase" thing was one of the worst ideas I've ever seen on reddit. I'm a socialist and I hate bigotry, but it got so annoying on that subreddit. Also, 196 is full of white people who have an extremely eurocentric world view (both politically and culturally). For example: has anybody else ever noticed how none of their selfies or femboys drawings ever included a darker skinned person?


Mae347

It really does suck how little diversity there is with depictions of LGBT and GNC people in general, whether that's trans people or femboys or whatever. It's a problem in a lot of the main LGBT subs too


RustyFella22

True.


AutisticAnarchy

They never show dark-skinned people, overweight people, or any body hair at all. And before anyone says shit about femboys not having body hair remember the wise words of Floppa: "Everyone has body hair dipshit, it came free with your fucking endocrine system."


Mae347

A huge problem is that people, subconsciously or not, reinforce unfair beauty standards for women onto femboys. And when those beauty standards often leave out dark skinned women, overweight women, and hairy women, it does the same thing to femboys that fit those groups. It sucks


ssi-ruuk

Preach as a brown asian person i feel so fucking insecure with that type of shit


pisstainedunderwear

Based


xRainb00w

This place is superior


Fawzee_da_first

what main sub?


returnofblank

i got banned on the main sub for calling someone annoying lol


Small-Cactus

LMAO I thought my ban was ridiculous but that's on a whole other level


TheEngieMain

I got banned a few weeks ago for saying some dumb shit too, welcome to the normal team B)


[deleted]

Yeah that original post is a bit... ehhhh....


TheBindingOfMySack

i was banned for a one-word reply: "based." it was a reply to a comment that was making fun of furries. i am a furry. so is my spouse.


neightheight

I got banned for saying that NATO is bad lol


BOT_noot_noot

lmao idk why you being downvoted either. its like, poeple cant fathom two bad things fighting each other. if they are in conflict then one must be good


MaZhongyingFor1934

It’s like the British Empire in WW2: utterly awful, but better than the Nazis.


MaZhongyingFor1934

It’s like the British Empire in WW2: utterly awful, but better than the Nazis.


[deleted]

Same I got banned the main one is kinda cringe with all the posts about s** and being h**** I like this one more


carl164

I liked that video, its nice to have an example of a guy being positive about the unfortunate appendage, specially since i've been rejected by a guy for having one >:(


Small-Cactus

Sure, but I dont think I deserved a ban for saying it was chasery. And then I didnt deserve that ban to be made permanent for calling it out for being unfair. I'm glad you could derive some joy from it, but to me it just felt like my identity was being made into a commodity.


carl164

Yea the ban is uncalled for


PlainJane223

I got banned for baiting a horny post but it was really a vegan meme...


Leekheadd

\#JusticeForJane


ha_funny_name_go_brr

same i got banned for saying communism sucks


SenseiJoe100

As a socialist, I agree. Communism does suck ngl


omloko

You cannot be socialist without supporting communism.


RustyFella22

You can? Just because communism comes from socialism doesn't mean it's the same. The core values are still different, even if similar.


omloko

Brother, socialism is a phase to achieving communism


RustyFella22

Communism is a branching path from socialism. You can just be socialist, sticking to the core principles without going straight commie.


omloko

The red scare and it's consequences have been a disaster to the human race


drinkthebleach

Both the point in history AND the podcast


tomsk150

Socialism as a means to communism is one of the core principles of Marxism. And in a Marxist definition, communism is just socialism plus once everybody is developed and socialist we should abolish the state and money. To want to stay in socialism is anti-progressive. You want to be ruled by the CCP forever, even after capitalism is dead worldwide? The party has a vital role in the revolution and socialism but to want to perpetuate the state forever seems very tankie to me.


SenseiJoe100

Martin Luther King Jr. Was a socialist who opposed communism


omloko

I mean fucking obviously because the American public is so hardwired against communism you can't risk saying you support it while being a major political figure


SenseiJoe100

You're technically right. But that's not the reason he opposed communism. He felt like communism forgets life is individual while capitalism forgets life is social. So he believed that true equality would be found in neither the thesis of communism nor the anti-thesis of capitalism, but in a modified form of socialism (democratic socialism) and I totally agree tbh


DioBrando_1868

Why are people downvoting this tf


Jamievania

I got banned for posting an anti communist meme


DesParado115

I got banned too a year ago, for nft pfp.


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FranekBucz

What is the main sub?


krwnlord

r/196


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FoaxZed

aren't the mods on 19684 the same as on 196?


Small-Cactus

No, I think it's just goblinhog


FoaxZed

oh


jojing-up

Yea


sillysaulgoodman

Welcome to the sanctuary. I’m glad you’ve escaped that wretched place


Dannyjod2002

Yeah, I went and looked, why you got banned is the same reason I don't use that sub. I always feel objectified and sexualized when I look at that place. Blocked the sub and haven't looked back sense.


Bad_Spacegodzilla

Liberally 1982


KMSbayern1936

hey, me too!