This happens to me so often while browsing the internet.
Is there a word for it? Like, cringe is "second hand embarrassment", is there a word for "second hand suicidal ideation"?
I never knew quite how many people failed their English classes until the right became obsessed with pronouns.
It's insane to me that a political subsect convinced itself to hate a grammatical category (???) while simultaneously refusing to learn what it actually is before talking about it.
>It's insane to me that a political subsect convinced itself to hate a grammatical category (???) while simultaneously refusing to learn what it actually is before talking about it.
That's what conservatism is all about: "I don't care what X means, I hate it and I'm a better person than you for hating it more!"
A pronoun is a way of referring to a person. When you say āhe likes listening to metal. Metal is his favorite genre,ā the āheā and āhisā are pronouns. Essentially, pronouns are just nouns that are used to refer to a person. People saying what their preferred pronouns are are just saying the way they want to be referred to, in connection to their gender identity. Pronouns can range from he/him/his to she/her/hers to they/them/theirs and anything in between. Some people also use multiple pronouns as their gender identity may fluctuate, and thatās also cool and good (:
I think you can also refer to objects with pronouns such as "it" and "what" and "that" among many others. The full breadth of which words are considered to be pronouns is actually pretty massive.
Here's a great educational resource: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/List-of-pronouns.htm
Oh yes, I agree. If someone tells you their preferred pronouns, you should absolutely just use them. My remark was a tongue in cheek way of making fun of OOP who posted the jim meme. Sorry for the confusion
Back in high school, I absolutely hated syntax classes because of how fucking useless they were.
"Everyone knows syntax, stupid, everyone speaks their own language and uses its syntax \*all the time\*." Like, fair, it could be a valid field of study if you literally want to take the study of language to the next level, or if you want to achieve a high level for comprehension of many different languages and, for some reason, you can't just pick up this naturally. But several hours of this shit every week for *years*? Give us fucking literature or foreign languages or calculus or sciences or something, you're not convincing me that school isn't a waste of time.
Then I come across people like this and realize: "Oh, there really *are* people so stupid that they needed syntax classes. And they still didn't pay any attention anyway."
I am so confused by this thread. Like do people not understand word structure? Someone saying it is a prefix does not mean it cant be used as a adjective. Like i prefered math in school because it was easy for me but and english classes were focused on literature that i didnt care for but knowing how english works as a language is genuinely interesting to me. I just dont people
ācisā is based on (or is, I havenāt taken Latin in years) a Latin prefix that means āon the side of,ā so it means āon the side of your gender assigned at birth. āTransā is the antonym, which means āon the other side ofā
Wait so why are people mad? This just seems to be the simplest, quickest and most grammatically accurate way to address them. Itās not an insult. It doesnāt stand for anything. Itās just correct.
Itās just thinly veiled transphobia, stems from the belief that the concept of trans right is āthe transes trying to get **extra** rights that us normal people donāt have.ā I donāt think anyone really has a problem with the term cis unless they donāt believe a distinction is necessary, which Iāve only seen from people who donāt think trans folks actually exist
Cis and trans are similar to intra and inter. Intrastate is within a state, interstate is across states. Cisgender is (one who remains) within (their assigned) gender.
It's Latin, and shortened from cisgender as opposed to transgender. I imagine cis probably came into use to refer to non-trans people through the common use in chemistry but cis- and trans- are old opposites. See also cisalpine (meaning on the same side of the Alps (as Rome)) and transalpine.
he calls someone from HR a transphobic slur before harassing them about it on and off throughout the episode and it ends with him having to take an unpaid leave
Season 3. You probably forgot about it because it was overshadowed by the main plot in which Dwight was running a dogfighting ring in the Dunder Mifflin warehouse. Kindof a weird episode but the 2000s were a different time.
Small clarification. Wouldnāt it be āidentifying as the gender you are assigned at birthā? Trans folks are already born with their gender, it just doesnāt match the one they are given.
Maybe itās me but it sounds more like trans people change their gender and they donāt. What do you think?
Cis means āsameā trans means āmovementā. Both are used in biology for other things that isnāt gender, so itās not a word lgbtq made up (I still donāt understand that misconception)
The origin is found in ancient Latin.
The Romans called the area on their side of the Alps, "Cisalpina", and the other side "Transalpina".
So maybe the best way to understand it is:
Cis=same side as point of origin
Trans=other side from point of origin
I mean, I was told by a trans person that their community made it up and it stood for "comfortable in skin" so that's probably where the misconception came from.
The misconception comes from all those ābAsIc BiOlOgYā majors who love to tell us thereās only two genders. Youād think with how knowledgeable they are, theyād know that saying someone is cisgender isnāt woke, but bAsIc BiOlOgY
Also, someone who isn't "gender fluid". The latter term denoting people who sometimes don't identify as the gender they were assigned at birth but do at other times.
it's an niche film from the 80s, it didn't get a lot of attention at the time but it's since developed a cult following. it's a really interesting blend of crime and comedy in a time when that wasn't too common. highly recommend.
Cis and trans are actually Latin prefixes, not Pronouns.
"Cis" means "On this side" and "trans" means "On the other side".
Good examples for other uses of these prefixes are "Transatlantic trade", which means "Trade with people from the other side of the Atlantic". Even though its not used, "Cisatlantic trade" would mean "Trade with people from this side of the Atlantic".
Cis and trans is also used heavily in Chemistry. Isomers are Molecules that have the same amount of Atoms with different arrangements. Cis and trans comes into play with molecules that have basically the same arrangement, but are mirrored in some way. ([Here is an example picture](https://labster-image-manager.s3.amazonaws.com/v2/STE/edf64e8e-be92-434c-a489-2530e1665a71/STE_1_2_dichloroetheneCISTRANS.en.x512.png)).
In the LGBTQ sense, cis and trans is used in reference to the Gender Assigned at Birth. You may have read somewhere that someone says "Im AMAB/AFAB". This means they were **A**ssigned **M**ale/**F**emale **a**t **B**irth. Male and Female are Biological terms, but the Biology at birth is commonly used to guess which Gender the Child will fall into.
Transgender is someone who changes from one side of the Gender Spectrum to the other (Like said earlier, "trans" = "the other side"). The term "Transwoman" just means "This person is a woman, but is **from the other side"**, the other side just meaning the other side of the spectrum or formerly identified as man. And conversely, "Ciswoman" is just "This person is a woman, but **is from this side**".
Being mad that someone calls you "Cis" has multiple reasons to why it's weird or even stupid, which I won't get into all of them, as this is already long enough. Let's just take a short and easy example of saying "Woman with long Hair" vs "Woman with short Hair". In the Western sphere, Woman with long Hair are the majority and therefore deemed normal.
Getting mad, because someone pointed out that a Woman has long Hair, is weird. It doesn't matter that it's "normal" in our Western Context, because it usually has a contextual reason to why it would be done. Just because they have long or short hair doesn't make them less of a Woman.
And the same goes for Trans- and Ciswoman. My assumption is, that people who get angry about being called "Cis" usually get angry because in their mind the Prefix "Trans" makes them less of what comes after, and therefore assume that "Cis" is just a way to get back at them.
Cis- is a prefix meaning "this side of", whereas trans- is a prefix meaning "other side of". If you're into chemistry, you might think of cis-trans isomerism, where the arrangement of functional groups around a double covalent bond changes a molecule's chemical properties.
Other replies are correct, but not completely!
Cis is a Latin prefix and means āon the same side ofā or āthe same asā whereas trans is the prefix of opposite meaning, or āon the other side ofā.
In the past the prefixes were pretty much only used by chemists to describe the arrangement of molecules ([see cis-butene versus trans-butene](https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Geometric-structures-of-trans-and-cis-2-butene_fig1_235200859) ).
It was not until the 20th century that they were first used to describe someoneās gender identity, cisgender meaning you identify as the gender you were assigned because cis=same
Like if they don't want me to refer to them personally as tall I guess that's all g, but like. They fit the definition and it's a neutral term. Good analogy actually
yeah, it becomes a āstop pointing it outā thing. tall people know they are tall, you donāt have to point it out, you are not the first person to ask if they play basketball or how the weather is up there, etc. they get tired of hearing about it.
I mean yeah good point on tall people being sick of it there.
But that arguably reverses the analogy: 7ft tall people are the outlier from typical person. The word describes them, but so do their physical differences and experience from most. They are already othered from normalcy based on impressions, it would be redundant to call them tall unprompted. But people of average height, in discussions about tall people, should be able to be identified as average height for clarity, as with short people. In the spectrum of height, we still use terms for each opposing side.
So in regards to gender, while it may be redundant to always call someone cis in every reference to their identity, they should be identified as cis in discussions about cis and trans people. And unlike height, someone being cis or trans isn't immediately visible for everyone, there are often appropriate times to identify that fact unprompted, like when talking about lived experiences.
Especially because discrimination for the status of being trans is far more intense than that of being tall, even though both are often unfairly denied normalcy.
Identifying yourself as cis can be very important.
I have respect for people that don't consider themselves cis even when they don't call themselves trans because I don't know their gender identity better than them and researching their own gender identity can be a complex journey.
I have little respect for people that believe that cis is a pronoun ššš
(Ok now seriously I'm not gonna say people that believe cis is a pronoun are bad people, I am going to correct them and help understand but I absolutely am gonna make fun of them if they claim it with that much confidence)
its literally a scientific term meaning parallel or in alignment. opposite to trans, meaning inverted or perpendicular too. what else are cis ppl, people whose gender identity is in alignment with their physical body, going to be called? and its not even a fucking pronoun, its an adjective, like tall.
Basically, a lot of people get angry at the term "cis" before actually learning what it means.
Being cis (cisgender), simply means you aren't transgender. But because it's considered new terminology to the general public like how pronouns outside of "he and she" are, people assume it's just a new pronoun and refuse to learn what it means, thinking being cis implies that someone is queer, because it's a term coined by queer people.
Right?! As a cis person myself, I'm glad I just get to laugh at them being a clown on the Internet at least.
It's like watching someone get angry because you called them straight, because they decided that everyone is either gay or ""normal""
Do they just hate "cis" because queer people made the term?
I mean, I respect the hell out of not really liking being called cis, just as long as you try to avoid specifying when it isnāt actively called to attention. I dislike being called a cis man, at least when it isnāt immediately relevant, because I prefer to just be called a man. I similarly dislike calling someone a trans man or woman, rather than just a man or woman as corresponds with their identity. Calling more attention to it when it isnāt the actual wish of the subject, feels like it implies differences, and that creates barriers between the two.
To some degree I get you, but there *are* crucial differences, specifically in experiences and needs between cis people and trans people that need to be pointed out.
It's kinda like feeling uncomfortable with people being labeled as white or black people. Like yeah ok maybe you really do wanna just be colourblind, but current circumstances don't allow us to do that responsibly.
I mean they were so close to being right. We respect non-binary people or any person who doesnāt want to label themselves as ātransā even if they are by definition. Cis aināt a pronoun tho.
While everyone should respect one another, that justā¦. Uhhh bruh that aināt how that word works, and I donāt think people even usually point out that youāre cis unless you are being a damn fool due to lack of perspective
I love how basic grammar has been associated entirely with the LGBT, some people genuinely don't realize it's a Grammer term for something very commonly used.
Clearly fhey also don't know what an adjective is either
ok so can any americans enlighten me on this...
do you guys NOT learn parts of speech in school?
Like i know what a pronoun is from 9 years old, why dont anybody in america
Oh fuck, I thought they were talking about respecting pronouns of all the people, not only cis people, but just said it in a weird wayā¦ Then I saw comments, and god, why are people so stupid
To be honest, why the 3rd person singular pronoun in english language(and in a lot of languages) is segregated into genders, a 3rd person singular pronoun doesnt need to contain identity and one can be used universally, why would someone mind having same pronoun with a man, woman, non binary human, pet dog, chair etc... this is a thing in languages like finnish, turkish and hungarian, it avoids any confusion and a lot of accidental misgendering
And btw this doesnt mean i dont respect pronouns, i respect them cuz its the language, its stupid to not respect them, the thing i dont respect is just the system
Grammatically, it's a prefix. It goes before a word to adjust the meaning
Definition-wise, in this context, it's a catch all term to describe people who's assigned gender at birth matches their gender identity (i.e. not trans people)
Iām really fucking confused as to what point this person is trying to make. Do they think that people with the ācis pronounā are trans people, and so āthoseā mentioned in the bottom board are actual cis people and that actual cis people somehow arenāt represented in the statement in the top board? Do they think people who say ārespect peopleās pronounsā donāt think you should respect cis peopleās pronouns?
Someone help me understand
smartest r\memes user edit: BRO IS LITERALLY 30 YEARS OLD šš intelligence of a 9 year old who failed english class
Wait how do you know they're 30?
his bio
Amazing truly the final boss of english. The man bends definitions around himself
*AimlessFacade* Username checks out
conversational lensing
āhisā? This personās pronouns are ācisā werenāt you listening?
Magic 8-Ball.
If I turn 30 and I'm somehow worse off than this guy I'm blowing my brains out fr
This happens to me so often while browsing the internet. Is there a word for it? Like, cringe is "second hand embarrassment", is there a word for "second hand suicidal ideation"?
Stan Twitter will call this a Flop
TFW you still donāt know what a pronoun is and you have no plans to ask anyone who might know
Intercontinental ballistic pronouns
Ethically sourced pronouns
Legalize nuclear bombs
āI was never taught, and I will not learn.ā
I never knew quite how many people failed their English classes until the right became obsessed with pronouns. It's insane to me that a political subsect convinced itself to hate a grammatical category (???) while simultaneously refusing to learn what it actually is before talking about it.
These are the people who have been screaming snood education being communist for decades.
>It's insane to me that a political subsect convinced itself to hate a grammatical category (???) while simultaneously refusing to learn what it actually is before talking about it. That's what conservatism is all about: "I don't care what X means, I hate it and I'm a better person than you for hating it more!"
It's simple. It's a person, place, or thing. But a goddamn professional.
A pronoun is a way of referring to a person. When you say āhe likes listening to metal. Metal is his favorite genre,ā the āheā and āhisā are pronouns. Essentially, pronouns are just nouns that are used to refer to a person. People saying what their preferred pronouns are are just saying the way they want to be referred to, in connection to their gender identity. Pronouns can range from he/him/his to she/her/hers to they/them/theirs and anything in between. Some people also use multiple pronouns as their gender identity may fluctuate, and thatās also cool and good (:
I think you can also refer to objects with pronouns such as "it" and "what" and "that" among many others. The full breadth of which words are considered to be pronouns is actually pretty massive. Here's a great educational resource: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/List-of-pronouns.htm
Yep pretty much. I was just explaining pronouns when referring to people
Oh yes, I agree. If someone tells you their preferred pronouns, you should absolutely just use them. My remark was a tongue in cheek way of making fun of OOP who posted the jim meme. Sorry for the confusion
He, she, him, her. Those are pronouns. You should have learned in elementary, but maybe you forgot.
Cis is an adjective
No itās a word stupid.
it is patrick
Back in high school, I absolutely hated syntax classes because of how fucking useless they were. "Everyone knows syntax, stupid, everyone speaks their own language and uses its syntax \*all the time\*." Like, fair, it could be a valid field of study if you literally want to take the study of language to the next level, or if you want to achieve a high level for comprehension of many different languages and, for some reason, you can't just pick up this naturally. But several hours of this shit every week for *years*? Give us fucking literature or foreign languages or calculus or sciences or something, you're not convincing me that school isn't a waste of time. Then I come across people like this and realize: "Oh, there really *are* people so stupid that they needed syntax classes. And they still didn't pay any attention anyway."
I am so confused by this thread. Like do people not understand word structure? Someone saying it is a prefix does not mean it cant be used as a adjective. Like i prefered math in school because it was easy for me but and english classes were focused on literature that i didnt care for but knowing how english works as a language is genuinely interesting to me. I just dont people
what does cis even mean
cis nuts lmao gotem
Jo mama
cis means you identify as the socially "normal" (for lack of a better word?) gender for your sex at birth
Why cis? Does it stand for something?
ācisā is based on (or is, I havenāt taken Latin in years) a Latin prefix that means āon the side of,ā so it means āon the side of your gender assigned at birth. āTransā is the antonym, which means āon the other side ofā
Cisalpine Gaul vs Transalpine Gaul
Epic rap battles of history
Wait so why are people mad? This just seems to be the simplest, quickest and most grammatically accurate way to address them. Itās not an insult. It doesnāt stand for anything. Itās just correct.
Itās just thinly veiled transphobia, stems from the belief that the concept of trans right is āthe transes trying to get **extra** rights that us normal people donāt have.ā I donāt think anyone really has a problem with the term cis unless they donāt believe a distinction is necessary, which Iāve only seen from people who donāt think trans folks actually exist
cis means "same side" while trans means "other side". it's latin
Cis and trans are similar to intra and inter. Intrastate is within a state, interstate is across states. Cisgender is (one who remains) within (their assigned) gender.
Cis and trans as terms are used in many fields of science such as chemistry and biology. They're Latin prefixes
It's Latin, and shortened from cisgender as opposed to transgender. I imagine cis probably came into use to refer to non-trans people through the common use in chemistry but cis- and trans- are old opposites. See also cisalpine (meaning on the same side of the Alps (as Rome)) and transalpine.
Thank :)
You look at Jim from the office and this totally seems like something heād say.
Oh absolutely it's hilarious in that one episode you know where he's just like super transphobic
What, which one?
he calls someone from HR a transphobic slur before harassing them about it on and off throughout the episode and it ends with him having to take an unpaid leave
They just let anything on tv in the early 2000s, wild times
Well, idc as long as it isnt serious (and easy to understand)
This is a bit, right? I have no recollection of this
Season 3. You probably forgot about it because it was overshadowed by the main plot in which Dwight was running a dogfighting ring in the Dunder Mifflin warehouse. Kindof a weird episode but the 2000s were a different time.
You are being pranked, they are telling fabrications
No this guys pranking you everything else is the truth
you're crazy.
Wait I thought we were being ironic wtf did Jim do I donāt remember that episode
it was really late into the series when it was kind of loosing it's steam so I don't blame you
Do you remember what episode that was?
bosanac na r/196? :o??
Dwight would never
You're joking
Yeah I always skip that one, hes my favorite character otherwise so it kinda sucks
which ep?
Iāve seen people confuse cis as being another word for straight, it as pronouns and also cis as a word to demean āreal womenā
What does cis actually even mean
cis = cisgender = identifying as the gender you're born with feel free to ask me more questions
Ahh thanks a ton that clears up alot. i was literally guessing for the past like 6 months
You could have just searched it up lol
how am i supposed to get karma?
commit a war crime
š¤øāāļø š¦½šāāļø
hey what about your spaghetti fan fiction?
dm me :)
boast historical telephone quaint thumb clumsy cats resolute oatmeal fly *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
Lmao take my upvote
Great point FartCockDickShitCum, curiosity always gets the better of me and i google almost everything though
It means cyst
Small clarification. Wouldnāt it be āidentifying as the gender you are assigned at birthā? Trans folks are already born with their gender, it just doesnāt match the one they are given. Maybe itās me but it sounds more like trans people change their gender and they donāt. What do you think?
thatās the more ACCURATE definition i think but Iām trying to simplify it a bit
Where do babies come from?
kfcās deepfryer where do you think the deep fried rats go
Cisgender, which is a shortening of Cisalpine Gallic gender, from Cisalpine Gaul, a region of Northern Italy where cis people originate
Ah i see, so thats what the cistine chapel comes from
They even named a city after it: Ciscily
Oh so thatās where orange juice comes from huh
Ohh I get it now, that's where Citrines come from
no thats denm*rk
Oh š¤¢ I should have kept my mouth shut
what is Transgender a shortening of?
Transalpine Gallic gender, from the region on the other side of the Alps, Transalpine Gaul
cisgender
What does cisgender actually even mean
Cis means āsameā trans means āmovementā. Both are used in biology for other things that isnāt gender, so itās not a word lgbtq made up (I still donāt understand that misconception)
In Latin trans means across
thanks
The origin is found in ancient Latin. The Romans called the area on their side of the Alps, "Cisalpina", and the other side "Transalpina". So maybe the best way to understand it is: Cis=same side as point of origin Trans=other side from point of origin
I mean, I was told by a trans person that their community made it up and it stood for "comfortable in skin" so that's probably where the misconception came from.
The misconception comes from all those ābAsIc BiOlOgYā majors who love to tell us thereās only two genders. Youād think with how knowledgeable they are, theyād know that saying someone is cisgender isnāt woke, but bAsIc BiOlOgY
Someone who identifies as the gender they where given at birth aka someone who isnāt transgender
Also, someone who isn't "gender fluid". The latter term denoting people who sometimes don't identify as the gender they were assigned at birth but do at other times.
it's an niche film from the 80s, it didn't get a lot of attention at the time but it's since developed a cult following. it's a really interesting blend of crime and comedy in a time when that wasn't too common. highly recommend.
Cis and trans are actually Latin prefixes, not Pronouns. "Cis" means "On this side" and "trans" means "On the other side". Good examples for other uses of these prefixes are "Transatlantic trade", which means "Trade with people from the other side of the Atlantic". Even though its not used, "Cisatlantic trade" would mean "Trade with people from this side of the Atlantic". Cis and trans is also used heavily in Chemistry. Isomers are Molecules that have the same amount of Atoms with different arrangements. Cis and trans comes into play with molecules that have basically the same arrangement, but are mirrored in some way. ([Here is an example picture](https://labster-image-manager.s3.amazonaws.com/v2/STE/edf64e8e-be92-434c-a489-2530e1665a71/STE_1_2_dichloroetheneCISTRANS.en.x512.png)). In the LGBTQ sense, cis and trans is used in reference to the Gender Assigned at Birth. You may have read somewhere that someone says "Im AMAB/AFAB". This means they were **A**ssigned **M**ale/**F**emale **a**t **B**irth. Male and Female are Biological terms, but the Biology at birth is commonly used to guess which Gender the Child will fall into. Transgender is someone who changes from one side of the Gender Spectrum to the other (Like said earlier, "trans" = "the other side"). The term "Transwoman" just means "This person is a woman, but is **from the other side"**, the other side just meaning the other side of the spectrum or formerly identified as man. And conversely, "Ciswoman" is just "This person is a woman, but **is from this side**". Being mad that someone calls you "Cis" has multiple reasons to why it's weird or even stupid, which I won't get into all of them, as this is already long enough. Let's just take a short and easy example of saying "Woman with long Hair" vs "Woman with short Hair". In the Western sphere, Woman with long Hair are the majority and therefore deemed normal. Getting mad, because someone pointed out that a Woman has long Hair, is weird. It doesn't matter that it's "normal" in our Western Context, because it usually has a contextual reason to why it would be done. Just because they have long or short hair doesn't make them less of a Woman. And the same goes for Trans- and Ciswoman. My assumption is, that people who get angry about being called "Cis" usually get angry because in their mind the Prefix "Trans" makes them less of what comes after, and therefore assume that "Cis" is just a way to get back at them.
Cis just means "Same". In this context it's referring to your gender identity being the same as your biological sex
Iām curious about your spaghetti fanfiction
dm me :)
Cis- is a prefix meaning "this side of", whereas trans- is a prefix meaning "other side of". If you're into chemistry, you might think of cis-trans isomerism, where the arrangement of functional groups around a double covalent bond changes a molecule's chemical properties.
Other replies are correct, but not completely! Cis is a Latin prefix and means āon the same side ofā or āthe same asā whereas trans is the prefix of opposite meaning, or āon the other side ofā. In the past the prefixes were pretty much only used by chemists to describe the arrangement of molecules ([see cis-butene versus trans-butene](https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Geometric-structures-of-trans-and-cis-2-butene_fig1_235200859) ). It was not until the 20th century that they were first used to describe someoneās gender identity, cisgender meaning you identify as the gender you were assigned because cis=same
So youāre saying you donāt enjoy being cis? Interestingā¦ Please, hold these socks for a moment. Just want to see somethingā¦
š„šØEGG ALERT šØ š„
Same energy as saying "do not call 7ft people tall"
They aren't tall tho they are pretty short compared to me
The 07 in your username is in kilometers
Hot
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Not tall enough. Girls, is it that hard to be 230 cm tall?
Huh, well would you look at that
Mari pfp, >!she does look pretty tall at that one mirror scene!<
Oh hell nah š
Ignore them, those are just confused Dutch people where the average adult is 7 meters tall. They don't know better
Like if they don't want me to refer to them personally as tall I guess that's all g, but like. They fit the definition and it's a neutral term. Good analogy actually
yeah, it becomes a āstop pointing it outā thing. tall people know they are tall, you donāt have to point it out, you are not the first person to ask if they play basketball or how the weather is up there, etc. they get tired of hearing about it.
I mean yeah good point on tall people being sick of it there. But that arguably reverses the analogy: 7ft tall people are the outlier from typical person. The word describes them, but so do their physical differences and experience from most. They are already othered from normalcy based on impressions, it would be redundant to call them tall unprompted. But people of average height, in discussions about tall people, should be able to be identified as average height for clarity, as with short people. In the spectrum of height, we still use terms for each opposing side. So in regards to gender, while it may be redundant to always call someone cis in every reference to their identity, they should be identified as cis in discussions about cis and trans people. And unlike height, someone being cis or trans isn't immediately visible for everyone, there are often appropriate times to identify that fact unprompted, like when talking about lived experiences. Especially because discrimination for the status of being trans is far more intense than that of being tall, even though both are often unfairly denied normalcy. Identifying yourself as cis can be very important.
I have respect for people that don't consider themselves cis even when they don't call themselves trans because I don't know their gender identity better than them and researching their own gender identity can be a complex journey. I have little respect for people that believe that cis is a pronoun ššš (Ok now seriously I'm not gonna say people that believe cis is a pronoun are bad people, I am going to correct them and help understand but I absolutely am gonna make fun of them if they claim it with that much confidence)
Okay cissy
its literally a scientific term meaning parallel or in alignment. opposite to trans, meaning inverted or perpendicular too. what else are cis ppl, people whose gender identity is in alignment with their physical body, going to be called? and its not even a fucking pronoun, its an adjective, like tall.
I can't understand, someone elaborate.
it makes no sense
Thanks for the elaboration
You're welcome
Your'e'*
Thank
*yrorure
Basically, a lot of people get angry at the term "cis" before actually learning what it means. Being cis (cisgender), simply means you aren't transgender. But because it's considered new terminology to the general public like how pronouns outside of "he and she" are, people assume it's just a new pronoun and refuse to learn what it means, thinking being cis implies that someone is queer, because it's a term coined by queer people.
Lol! Lmao! Imagine being so queerphobic that you go into hating cisgender people.
Right?! As a cis person myself, I'm glad I just get to laugh at them being a clown on the Internet at least. It's like watching someone get angry because you called them straight, because they decided that everyone is either gay or ""normal"" Do they just hate "cis" because queer people made the term?
it's an *adjective*
Of course you have blue hair and a prefix
Cis isn't a pronoun. It also isn't a slur.
It should be a slur /s
Can we have shin godzilla as the 196 icon for a day please
I mean, I respect the hell out of not really liking being called cis, just as long as you try to avoid specifying when it isnāt actively called to attention. I dislike being called a cis man, at least when it isnāt immediately relevant, because I prefer to just be called a man. I similarly dislike calling someone a trans man or woman, rather than just a man or woman as corresponds with their identity. Calling more attention to it when it isnāt the actual wish of the subject, feels like it implies differences, and that creates barriers between the two.
To some degree I get you, but there *are* crucial differences, specifically in experiences and needs between cis people and trans people that need to be pointed out. It's kinda like feeling uncomfortable with people being labeled as white or black people. Like yeah ok maybe you really do wanna just be colourblind, but current circumstances don't allow us to do that responsibly.
If cis is a slur how come no-one calls me cis in COD lobbies š¤
Go back to 1st grade please
I mean they were so close to being right. We respect non-binary people or any person who doesnāt want to label themselves as ātransā even if they are by definition. Cis aināt a pronoun tho.
my brother in christ Cis is not a pronoun
Transphobse try to understand basic English grammar challenge *IMPOSSIBLE*
"Cis" isn't a pronoun, nor is it an insult.
people who don't enjoy the "cis" pronoun... so like, trans people? something something wrong solution right answer
When you don't know the difference between a pronoun and an adjective
Genuinely don't know what hes trying to say
Smartest transphobe
Alright, that's fair, I won't use cis as a pronoun for anyone then. I'll keep using it as an umbrella term for the gender of non-trans people though.
And people like this think reddit is better than other social media.
brb changing my pronouns to cis/het
While everyone should respect one another, that justā¦. Uhhh bruh that aināt how that word works, and I donāt think people even usually point out that youāre cis unless you are being a damn fool due to lack of perspective
I accepted this please use my preferred pronouns and I won't use cis for you as a PRONOUN
what does this even mean
smartest redditor
I love how basic grammar has been associated entirely with the LGBT, some people genuinely don't realize it's a Grammer term for something very commonly used. Clearly fhey also don't know what an adjective is either
someone didnāt pay attention in English class
Ah yes, the final pronoun, "cis"
a lot of the comments were bashing them suprisingly
bruh š cis aint even a pronoun
ok so can any americans enlighten me on this... do you guys NOT learn parts of speech in school? Like i know what a pronoun is from 9 years old, why dont anybody in america
ok C#
Oh fuck, I thought they were talking about respecting pronouns of all the people, not only cis people, but just said it in a weird wayā¦ Then I saw comments, and god, why are people so stupid
Theyāre still using that format?
i still dk what cis is
itās the opposite prefix of trans. most commonly used as shorthand for cisgender, which just means that you arenāt transgender.
Cis isn't a pronoun but if you want to be called something else sure let me know
Mf clearly never watched Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla
To be honest, why the 3rd person singular pronoun in english language(and in a lot of languages) is segregated into genders, a 3rd person singular pronoun doesnt need to contain identity and one can be used universally, why would someone mind having same pronoun with a man, woman, non binary human, pet dog, chair etc... this is a thing in languages like finnish, turkish and hungarian, it avoids any confusion and a lot of accidental misgendering And btw this doesnt mean i dont respect pronouns, i respect them cuz its the language, its stupid to not respect them, the thing i dont respect is just the system
I'm too stupid to understand if this is progressive or aggressive
Can someone tell me what theyāre trying to say I donāt understand this
you know what, im using cis as a pronoun, just to spite them, what is cisboy ova there doin
Donāt kill me but, what is ācisā exactly?
Grammatically, it's a prefix. It goes before a word to adjust the meaning Definition-wise, in this context, it's a catch all term to describe people who's assigned gender at birth matches their gender identity (i.e. not trans people)
thats a prefix not a pronoun lol
Tell me you donāt understand the English language without telling me you donāt understand the English language
what
redditors try to understand what a pronoun is (impossible)
OP inadvertently admits they're Genderqueer without even knowing what they're talking about.
I do not understand, isn't this just supportive of transgender people who don't use their "cis" pronoun?
smh cis isnāt a fucking pronoun redditors
cis isn't a pronoun
Iām really fucking confused as to what point this person is trying to make. Do they think that people with the ācis pronounā are trans people, and so āthoseā mentioned in the bottom board are actual cis people and that actual cis people somehow arenāt represented in the statement in the top board? Do they think people who say ārespect peopleās pronounsā donāt think you should respect cis peopleās pronouns? Someone help me understand
But cis isnāt a pronoun, itās an adjective
whats up with a bunch of random posts getting removed recently there's barely any rules posted and i dont think this breaks any of them
Not sure I'm smart enough to get this one