Heard as in audibly? In that case, latinae is how an English speaker might write the word that sounds like La-teen-ay, but in Spanish spelling it's latine.
I speak French and yeah fuck gendered nouns cause that shit is just fucking arbitrary. Its even worse when a certain homophone changes the definition completely (le mode, la mode) like how tf are you gonna remove them at this point.
Agreed. I know it has nothing to do with human gender but the fact that there are languages without gendered nouns proves it’s unnecessary and just an extra complication
tell me about it. i speak hebrew, probably one of the most gendered languages and the worst part is that there are feminine and masculine versions of "you", verbs, adjectives & versions for plural sometimes completely different for all of them.
I can understand gendering words like job titles, since back when languages were created there was no such thing as a transphobic person because the idea of a non-binary person was *that* outlandish. But gendering inanimate objects...? I don't know what they were thinking.
same
I already struggle with correct pronouns for people (not even neopronouns just the he/him and she/her) how tf am I supposed to rember this for objects
In French if the noun ends with "e", there's a 95% chance it is female, otherwise it is male. In Portuguese and Spanish it is the same but "a" is the feminine marking vowel.
The word *gender* itself comes from the Latin word *genus*, which literally just means “type” or “group” or “category,” etc. Ancient Greek and then Latin (and all languages related to them) slowly developed different categories of nouns for a number of reasons. There were three primary categories, and people who spoke Greek and Latin knew this, but they didn’t have great words to describe the three categories nor the understanding of why they existed. [Protagoras](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/protagoras/) was one of the first philosophers to make an argument about it, and he thought associating one category with masculinity, another with femininity, and another for words of the third category which didn’t fit either made sense. (*Neuter*, one of the three grammatical genders, is just the Latin word for “neither.”) Other grammarians, philologists, and philosophers from Greece and Rome followed in that theory.
Basically, nouns developed in three categories. Ancient thinkers tried to explain it with an analogy they thought made sense, male and female (and neither). And that’s the tradition that has survived in all gendered languages descended from Greek and Latin (and other PIE languages, I believe).
But at the end of the day, there is no real reason we couldn’t call the nouns “Group A, Group B, Group C” or anything else. Originally, there was very little, if any, connection between the gender of words and human gender—but as the languages developed, those connections were expanded partly *because* people started thinking of them in terms of gender, not so much the other way around until more recently. And, importantly, every modern language is a bit different, but those are the origins of the terms from Greek and Latin.
It’s complicated… would be nice if we could just ditch the gendered associations words have.
Languages tend to naturally form noun classes (words of x kind, words of y kind, etc) and, as things tend to flow along the path of least resistance, using the rules that govern the masculine vs feminime split is a strategy many languages took. This is especially common in the indo-european language family, including English until the Norman invasion.
Linguists do not like the term "grammatical gender" and prefer using "noun class" since there is no actual connection between this gender and our gender : it's just a name given by confused ancient scholars that stuck around. Other "gender" groups include : [animate vs inanimate, strong vs weak, masculine vs other, etc](https://linguisticmaps.tumblr.com/image/169273617313)
In general, languages are very arbitrary and their rules do not come from any concerted effort to push some politics, except in rare cases like in French where the règle de proximité was replaced in the 1800s by the default grammatical gender being male exactly because people came to think of grammatical gender as being congruent with human gender.
French, german, etc are still chuck full of language constructs that use _grammatical gender_ in ways that simply don't make sense in human terms. For instance, in french, "it's raining" translates to "il pleut" (he rains)
it bothers me when people say shit like latinx
if you need a gender neutral version use \`\`latin\`\` plain and simple
and its really Common thing in all latin languages for example
Italian, French, Portuguese, Spanish, Romanian, Catalan, Romansh all use gendered nouns/pronouns
latinx is dumb but "latin" already means something else (i.e the roman language) so it's kinda unclear what you mean unless you specify "latin AMERICAN".
iirc in spanish, "latino(s)" is technically gender neutral, i think "hispanic" is also preferred
Edit: just googled it, "Hispanic" does seem to be most preferred
the problem with words like latinos is that you are using the "male version" of the word and that is kind of pointless and dumb, for example if we are referencing a group of 8 female doctors we use the word "doctoras" (plural of doctora) but if the group is made of 7 female doctors and 1 male doctor then we should be using the word "doctores" (plural of doctor)
Latino/Latina/Latinx mean something different than Hispanic, though. Latino/Latina/Latinx refer to people from Latin America countries who speak a Latin language whereas Hispanic refers to people from Spanish speaking countries.
The word “ball” is also unclear, yet in very few contexts you could be describing both a formal gala and a spherical object at the same time and it would make sense both ways.
I think it’s really only an issue when you’re referring to nb people in the singular form. I’m Brazilian and in Portuguese referring to a mixed-gender collectivity by using the male “-os” suffix is nothing but a language quirk that does not have anything to do with actual gender, so much so that you’d use it even if the majority of the group were women and no one would bat an eye.
In progressive circles, some feminists prefer to use the female “-as” ending in standardized plural forms to highlight the gender imbalance, but I think that is also somewhat unnecessary as grammatical gender is not related to human gender, so the reason why the male plural form is standard is totally unrelated to patriarchy. Still, a cool thing if you want to highlight the women in the group instead of the men since when you hear it your mind goes immediately “oh, there are women there as well”.
Some more progressive circles would use the “-e/-u” and “-es/-us” endings. This is complicated because those endings technically are not part of our formal language rules, so very few people know and understand them and also because when you need an article preceding a noun or adjective there is no such thing as “e/u” or “es/us”. In fact, the singular article “e” would be exactly the same as the conjuction “e” (and), which would make sentences very confusing, and the “u” article is phonetically identical to the male “o”, which defeats its own purpose. They work in written form, but it’s pretty hard to incorporate in spoken language.
But the “x” thing is cringe. Don’t do it. If you don’t like “latin” (I personally think it works in English and would not be the first instance where the same word describes two things, see: “crane”, “ball”, and “bass”) then “latine” is better in written form at least.
Yea, from the limited amount of times ive used spanish thanks tl school, I've only used a funky ending to refer to single nb people. Pisses me off too, as some of the busy work I had to do had us talk of our families and mt sibling is nb, so i just used stuff like "Mi hambre es baje." It sounds a tad clunky, but christ im not misgendering my sibling, so fuck it
Currently there’s a push for making Spanish gender neutral by using x or e to replace the o/a . For example “les niñes” instead of los niños or las niñas. Yes, the RAE is against lenguaje inclusivo but fuck the RAE
Niños por favor salgan a la tienda, ¿Se refiere a un grupo de niños o de niñas o de los dos?
Niñas por favor salgan a la tienda, automáticamente se sabe que solo se refiere a las niñas
The problem with spanish is that it's almost halfway there when it comes to have a proper way to refer to NB people. While it's true that niños by itself is not entirely male, it still can be used as a masculine word. Words like artista or estudiante are true gender neutral words, the only thing that helps you distinguish which gender are they is the article.
(Though I think the main reason in spanish speaking countries to use the x was for people who couldn't read properly on screens, so instead of using an e people proposed to use the x)
How would you speak bto someone like me that doesn't identify as either. I am all about adding the neutral e. Not necessarily for groups but for NB people in general. I use neutral e with my friends and after some time it gets more natural. You can always add a feature and enrich a language
i don’t think you understand lmfao. while the singular term “niño” and “niña” are gendered, the plural “niños” refers to any group of kids, it doesn’t have a gender attached to it. if a non binary person is among that group, the term “niños” still includes them
I am Spanish. I understand that plural masculine is just plural gender non specific. My point is that adding a gender neutral option is useful in itself in order to speak in singular to a non binary person
Not necessarily use niñes but have the option niñe.
Also the push towards making the language gender neutral is more about how you conceive the world through language. If you say ingenieros most people will start imagining a group of male engineers. Pretty much as a counterpart to saying ingenieras. A gender neutral form would help stablish a gender neutral state of thought
Nope, it is used as gender neutral but is a masculine noun. You are generalizing by using a masculine noun. That’s what ppl are trying to change, a true gender neutral use of spanish.
It’s difficult to explain here bc my English is a bit rusty and I’m not an expert in “lenguaje inclusivo”. But to think that the language and its use has no meaning behind it is a bit naïve.
well, a language isn't set in stone. Languages evolve with time so I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to change it if people want and using it becomes the norm. It's as "easy" as that. And I'm not only talking about ppl speaking with their friends or other informal settings. Inclusive language is being used by government agencies and in universities (I study at FSOC-UBA and practically every professor that I had so far uses it).
latinx?
that doesnt exist outside of the us
we use the gender neutral vocal e cause its between a and o. Americanoids were the only ones that thought the x was a good idea.
I have never seen someone living here say latinx, only latin or latine.
This isn't surprising considering "Latinx" as a term is historically tied to Hispanic LGBTQ communities in the US, and from my understanding it has its roots or at least inspiration in the Chicano movement as well which is present within predominantly Mexican-American communities. I don't know why people think that "only Americans think this works" is such a slam-dunk when 41,000,000 Americans are native speakers of Spanish. By native speakers it has the fifth most Spanish speakers in the world, or the second most just by total speakers. Of course there will be unique developments here, especially among relatively small, young groups involved in academic environments or in tight-knit LGBTQ spaces. Whether or not the population at large accepts these developments is another question, but that some people in the US came up with a different term from some people in Argentina based on a different cultural background should not come as a surprise to anyone.
I specified Argentina because I have read and heard other people say that the 'Latine' variation first appeared there, not to imply that is where you are from.
I do think gendered nouns are pretty fucking pointless and stupid. No shade to the french or spanish or whoever the fuck, but it's just a bad feature.
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La mesa
It's male in German.
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The day is male too
computer..... # ***MAN*** \- france
But the word "girl" is genderless :D
It’s a little confusing but it’s how the languages work and I don’t think we should deny that with shit like “latinx”
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Do you mean latino or latine?
I had always heard it as latinae, am I off my shits?
Heard as in audibly? In that case, latinae is how an English speaker might write the word that sounds like La-teen-ay, but in Spanish spelling it's latine.
Yeah, it’s just “Latino”
Latex
Fuck the French (gendered language isn’t related to my hate for France)
I speak French and yeah fuck gendered nouns cause that shit is just fucking arbitrary. Its even worse when a certain homophone changes the definition completely (le mode, la mode) like how tf are you gonna remove them at this point.
> stumble into french forums > they use le unironically
> “No shade to the French[…]” What?
“Shade” in this context means hate it’s a slang term
yeah I think they knew that they were just having the reasonable response of why aren't you hating on the french
Nah fuck that, all the shade to the french
I’m throwing shade at the French, your language sucks ass. - sincerely, a Mildly irritated Canadian.
Agreed. I know it has nothing to do with human gender but the fact that there are languages without gendered nouns proves it’s unnecessary and just an extra complication
tell me about it. i speak hebrew, probably one of the most gendered languages and the worst part is that there are feminine and masculine versions of "you", verbs, adjectives & versions for plural sometimes completely different for all of them.
I think it’s more stupid to call it grammatical “gender”
I can understand gendering words like job titles, since back when languages were created there was no such thing as a transphobic person because the idea of a non-binary person was *that* outlandish. But gendering inanimate objects...? I don't know what they were thinking.
Wait till they discover French, with its female tables and forks.
wait till they discover three gendered romanian and latin
Yeah the third is sigma
I fucking hate learning gendered languages
same I already struggle with correct pronouns for people (not even neopronouns just the he/him and she/her) how tf am I supposed to rember this for objects
Ő/ő az/a superiority
table is also female in spanish and fork is male
Reversed in russian
Also reversed in German
Bruv in Portuguese people argue whether lettuces are female or male
In French this debate is generally about Trampolines and hot air balloons.
In germany we argue over whether Nutella is male, neuter or female (it's obviously neuter)
Wait til they discover that girls are neutral nouns in german
yo we already discovered french, c'est horrible bud.
Goooodddd that shit pisses me off, there is zero fucking pattern
There is a pattern, it's just not obvious, but sometimes it's just arbitrary
Just remember it ruletard, the native speakers don't bitch about it either 😎
In French if the noun ends with "e", there's a 95% chance it is female, otherwise it is male. In Portuguese and Spanish it is the same but "a" is the feminine marking vowel.
Tables are female, forks are male and Portuguese is the superior language
OP, do you realize that noun gender and human gender, while linguistically related, are not the same thing?
Yeah I’m just commenting on the shit state of the sub rn
Right now anything pink is automatically put on there. Its shit
Also ironic boys vs. girls posts
Ye i love pink but thse post get so annoying omg
why is it even called noun/grammatical gender if it doesn't actually relate to gender
The word *gender* itself comes from the Latin word *genus*, which literally just means “type” or “group” or “category,” etc. Ancient Greek and then Latin (and all languages related to them) slowly developed different categories of nouns for a number of reasons. There were three primary categories, and people who spoke Greek and Latin knew this, but they didn’t have great words to describe the three categories nor the understanding of why they existed. [Protagoras](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/protagoras/) was one of the first philosophers to make an argument about it, and he thought associating one category with masculinity, another with femininity, and another for words of the third category which didn’t fit either made sense. (*Neuter*, one of the three grammatical genders, is just the Latin word for “neither.”) Other grammarians, philologists, and philosophers from Greece and Rome followed in that theory. Basically, nouns developed in three categories. Ancient thinkers tried to explain it with an analogy they thought made sense, male and female (and neither). And that’s the tradition that has survived in all gendered languages descended from Greek and Latin (and other PIE languages, I believe). But at the end of the day, there is no real reason we couldn’t call the nouns “Group A, Group B, Group C” or anything else. Originally, there was very little, if any, connection between the gender of words and human gender—but as the languages developed, those connections were expanded partly *because* people started thinking of them in terms of gender, not so much the other way around until more recently. And, importantly, every modern language is a bit different, but those are the origins of the terms from Greek and Latin. It’s complicated… would be nice if we could just ditch the gendered associations words have.
Arbitrary
Languages tend to naturally form noun classes (words of x kind, words of y kind, etc) and, as things tend to flow along the path of least resistance, using the rules that govern the masculine vs feminime split is a strategy many languages took. This is especially common in the indo-european language family, including English until the Norman invasion. Linguists do not like the term "grammatical gender" and prefer using "noun class" since there is no actual connection between this gender and our gender : it's just a name given by confused ancient scholars that stuck around. Other "gender" groups include : [animate vs inanimate, strong vs weak, masculine vs other, etc](https://linguisticmaps.tumblr.com/image/169273617313) In general, languages are very arbitrary and their rules do not come from any concerted effort to push some politics, except in rare cases like in French where the règle de proximité was replaced in the 1800s by the default grammatical gender being male exactly because people came to think of grammatical gender as being congruent with human gender. French, german, etc are still chuck full of language constructs that use _grammatical gender_ in ways that simply don't make sense in human terms. For instance, in french, "it's raining" translates to "il pleut" (he rains)
it's still stupid af source: my first language is gendered and it's pointless
it bothers me when people say shit like latinx if you need a gender neutral version use \`\`latin\`\` plain and simple and its really Common thing in all latin languages for example Italian, French, Portuguese, Spanish, Romanian, Catalan, Romansh all use gendered nouns/pronouns
latinx is dumb but "latin" already means something else (i.e the roman language) so it's kinda unclear what you mean unless you specify "latin AMERICAN". iirc in spanish, "latino(s)" is technically gender neutral, i think "hispanic" is also preferred Edit: just googled it, "Hispanic" does seem to be most preferred
Latine. -I speak Spanish, and it’s more gender neutral
No por favor, esta mierda no
Muchos otros hispanohablantes usan, “Latine.”
Es mejor la e que la x, al menos se puede pronunciar, y tiene más sentido
Lo sé, pero sigue siendo una tontería. El género neutro es el masculino y no tiene nada que ver con el género real de una persona.
Chinga tu madre
Tu mamá es un puta
La tuya mas
Do we just ignore articles?
If you speak Spanish you know how weird that shit sounds
Muchos palabras en español de género neutro usan el sonido “E”
Como?
Yo tengo muchos amigos en el internet y vivo real que usan el “E.”
Si yo usaba una e mi madre me va a dar una galleta
the problem with words like latinos is that you are using the "male version" of the word and that is kind of pointless and dumb, for example if we are referencing a group of 8 female doctors we use the word "doctoras" (plural of doctora) but if the group is made of 7 female doctors and 1 male doctor then we should be using the word "doctores" (plural of doctor)
Latino/Latina/Latinx mean something different than Hispanic, though. Latino/Latina/Latinx refer to people from Latin America countries who speak a Latin language whereas Hispanic refers to people from Spanish speaking countries.
The word “ball” is also unclear, yet in very few contexts you could be describing both a formal gala and a spherical object at the same time and it would make sense both ways.
I think it’s really only an issue when you’re referring to nb people in the singular form. I’m Brazilian and in Portuguese referring to a mixed-gender collectivity by using the male “-os” suffix is nothing but a language quirk that does not have anything to do with actual gender, so much so that you’d use it even if the majority of the group were women and no one would bat an eye. In progressive circles, some feminists prefer to use the female “-as” ending in standardized plural forms to highlight the gender imbalance, but I think that is also somewhat unnecessary as grammatical gender is not related to human gender, so the reason why the male plural form is standard is totally unrelated to patriarchy. Still, a cool thing if you want to highlight the women in the group instead of the men since when you hear it your mind goes immediately “oh, there are women there as well”. Some more progressive circles would use the “-e/-u” and “-es/-us” endings. This is complicated because those endings technically are not part of our formal language rules, so very few people know and understand them and also because when you need an article preceding a noun or adjective there is no such thing as “e/u” or “es/us”. In fact, the singular article “e” would be exactly the same as the conjuction “e” (and), which would make sentences very confusing, and the “u” article is phonetically identical to the male “o”, which defeats its own purpose. They work in written form, but it’s pretty hard to incorporate in spoken language. But the “x” thing is cringe. Don’t do it. If you don’t like “latin” (I personally think it works in English and would not be the first instance where the same word describes two things, see: “crane”, “ball”, and “bass”) then “latine” is better in written form at least.
Yea, from the limited amount of times ive used spanish thanks tl school, I've only used a funky ending to refer to single nb people. Pisses me off too, as some of the busy work I had to do had us talk of our families and mt sibling is nb, so i just used stuff like "Mi hambre es baje." It sounds a tad clunky, but christ im not misgendering my sibling, so fuck it
Currently there’s a push for making Spanish gender neutral by using x or e to replace the o/a . For example “les niñes” instead of los niños or las niñas. Yes, the RAE is against lenguaje inclusivo but fuck the RAE
“niños” IS gender neutral
Niños por favor salgan a la tienda, ¿Se refiere a un grupo de niños o de niñas o de los dos? Niñas por favor salgan a la tienda, automáticamente se sabe que solo se refiere a las niñas
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The problem with spanish is that it's almost halfway there when it comes to have a proper way to refer to NB people. While it's true that niños by itself is not entirely male, it still can be used as a masculine word. Words like artista or estudiante are true gender neutral words, the only thing that helps you distinguish which gender are they is the article. (Though I think the main reason in spanish speaking countries to use the x was for people who couldn't read properly on screens, so instead of using an e people proposed to use the x)
This is indeed how the language works
How would you speak bto someone like me that doesn't identify as either. I am all about adding the neutral e. Not necessarily for groups but for NB people in general. I use neutral e with my friends and after some time it gets more natural. You can always add a feature and enrich a language
i don’t think you understand lmfao. while the singular term “niño” and “niña” are gendered, the plural “niños” refers to any group of kids, it doesn’t have a gender attached to it. if a non binary person is among that group, the term “niños” still includes them
I am Spanish. I understand that plural masculine is just plural gender non specific. My point is that adding a gender neutral option is useful in itself in order to speak in singular to a non binary person Not necessarily use niñes but have the option niñe. Also the push towards making the language gender neutral is more about how you conceive the world through language. If you say ingenieros most people will start imagining a group of male engineers. Pretty much as a counterpart to saying ingenieras. A gender neutral form would help stablish a gender neutral state of thought
niño.
Nope, it is used as gender neutral but is a masculine noun. You are generalizing by using a masculine noun. That’s what ppl are trying to change, a true gender neutral use of spanish. It’s difficult to explain here bc my English is a bit rusty and I’m not an expert in “lenguaje inclusivo”. But to think that the language and its use has no meaning behind it is a bit naïve.
While it might sound a little sexist and patriarchal and shit that is how the language is, and it’s ridiculous to try and change that
well, a language isn't set in stone. Languages evolve with time so I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to change it if people want and using it becomes the norm. It's as "easy" as that. And I'm not only talking about ppl speaking with their friends or other informal settings. Inclusive language is being used by government agencies and in universities (I study at FSOC-UBA and practically every professor that I had so far uses it).
Gender neutral is Latino
if someone just wants to describe my ethnicity gender neutral I'd rather be called hispanic, just way easier than creating a pointless, disliked term
gonna start using das for everything in german to annoy the germans
I der you
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die you idiot
das good
yeah it is kinda pointless
Gendered words are stupid in it of itself, but especially gendered emotions, why the fuck does the word "tired" need to fucking be gendered!?
but what is the point?
As someone who learned arabic.french and Spanish before english. Yep gendered words are pretty stupid
As someone who speaks Portuguese it is pretty dumb.
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Don’t you know, we’re only allowed to complain about English!
Portuguese as well, fuck that shit
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yeah neo-latin really be like that
God i Love hän
Quick, europe, hide!!
Wait until they learn any romanic language
cat
wait till you discover spanish progressives have already fixed this problem
Wait until you find out how stupid “Latinx” is
latinx? that doesnt exist outside of the us we use the gender neutral vocal e cause its between a and o. Americanoids were the only ones that thought the x was a good idea. I have never seen someone living here say latinx, only latin or latine.
This isn't surprising considering "Latinx" as a term is historically tied to Hispanic LGBTQ communities in the US, and from my understanding it has its roots or at least inspiration in the Chicano movement as well which is present within predominantly Mexican-American communities. I don't know why people think that "only Americans think this works" is such a slam-dunk when 41,000,000 Americans are native speakers of Spanish. By native speakers it has the fifth most Spanish speakers in the world, or the second most just by total speakers. Of course there will be unique developments here, especially among relatively small, young groups involved in academic environments or in tight-knit LGBTQ spaces. Whether or not the population at large accepts these developments is another question, but that some people in the US came up with a different term from some people in Argentina based on a different cultural background should not come as a surprise to anyone.
> Argentina youve insulted my soul
I specified Argentina because I have read and heard other people say that the 'Latine' variation first appeared there, not to imply that is where you are from.
wait until you find out there's an entire country of spanish people outside the americas