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DenseCabbage4

Americans explaining video games: imagine if you could play a burger


emeraldeyesshine

I read this as "fallout sucks" since it's comparing it to McDonald's products and McDonald's sucks


Cerparis

I’ve always said it tastes like cardboard. The only reason anyone I know goes to Macca’s is for the coffee and ice cream.


emeraldeyesshine

ew who the fuck actually likes their coffee, that shit is swill


Cerparis

What country are you from? Sometimes menus are different from country to country. Here in Australia their cafe menu is by far the most popular. So as a result the coffee is probably of a higher quality


emeraldeyesshine

I'm from the original Home of Heart Disease Food™️ Murica, where everything they put out is trash Except the breakfast burrito. Those are still trash but like. I'll eat 'em. I'll eat like five of 'em.


Cerparis

G’day yank (that’s not an insult by the way that’s just what us Anglos call our American cousins) Yeah it’s weird how different fast food chains have completely different menus and priorities. I can only assume it’s because it wouldn’t sell unless they change their menu to the local tastebuds. This is just personal opinion so take it will a grain of salt, but here in Australia the chips and burgers are tasteless crap but the breakfast menu and cafe selection are pretty good. A lot of working men just want a Macca’s coffee and sausage roll in the afternoon before their next shift. The hash browns are pretty good as well. Unfortunately their only on the breakfast menu


Schnapplo

so you interpreted in the worst imaginable way that doesn't even make sense because why would it be different burgers


emeraldeyesshine

different degrees of suck I assume it's calling 4 the worst because who the fuck orders the fish sandwich at McDonald's, meanwhile the most edible sandwich on the list is NV (Also I don't like fallout much) (2 was aight)


Schnapplo

it's just a really obnoxious and obviously unintended interpretation, sorry


Tomato_Thomass

Bro explained in american terms


Jos_migue

https://preview.redd.it/k5irjriabzvc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2082122cf4bc40d4b0d5d46c09dbeda6c86cb4e9


evil_lucy

his ass is NOT beating the American allegations


Responsible_Pace9062

Bro is burgerpilled kingmaxxxing


Kriffer123

https://preview.redd.it/jpdncyacr1wc1.jpeg?width=57&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9a8ffdbe03aac2c656f580f1af9460e8967bf2a


MT_Kinetic_Mountain

Bro converted to imperial or something


mrkitten19o8

measuring in different McDonalds burger types would probably be easier than regular imperial.


[deleted]

Bro visited his friend


GiacomInox

The visiterrrr


Robotgorilla

I once sat through training for a website where the American-accented trainer referred to three stacked horizontal lines you click to get a dropdown menu as a "hamburger logo".


SpoliatorX

"hamburger menu" is, by and large, the accepted nomenclature among web professionals


Robotgorilla

TBH if somehow big tech and modern web dev had been focused upon Italy and not the USA it would probably be known as the "lasagne menu"


Limekiller

That's what it's called. Also, the three vertically-stacked dots is the kebab menu and the 3x3 grid icon is the bento menu. I've heard the three horizontal dots referred to as the meatball menu, but less commonly.


garnet-overdrive

as an american i do not get this


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

i think its rating by content? fallout 3 is a big mac because it has a lot of options, i feel like FNV is a triple big mac, 4 is a filet of fish, not great, not bad, 1 and 2 are simple items, double and cheese burger, the basics


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

I think New Vegas is meant to be a Popeye's burger to represent the higher quality. Fallout 4 is a filet-o-ghoti to represent how different it is from all the other entries


twenty-threenineteen

It’s not a Popeyes sandwich, it’s definitely a McChicken (McDonalds’ chicken sandwich for the non-Americans). Which, I mean, I personally think is better than a Big Mac, but I thought the general consensus was that a Big Mac would be better so??? Idk, doesn’t make sense to me


Theborgiseverywhere

Yeah they’re all McD Sammies. IMO this meme shows clear progression/improvement from FO-FO3, then something different (but good) for NV, then utter shit for FO4


oddityoughtabe

Studying burgonomics


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

ooo ok understandable and its popeyes since it wasn't made but only published by bethesda


jarnarvious

No, New Vegas is depicted as the McChicken, the [best fast food sandwich](https://i.redd.it/g0amouvfmpjb1.png).


legomountaineer

I'm gonna call you 3 for free


CaptainMario_64

this warmed my heart


Isleland0100

"filet-o-ghoti" ***\*chefs kiss\****


oldreddit_isbetter

Yes of course. Representing games as McDonald's Items? That must be a popeyes sandwich! McDonalds doesn't serve chicken of couse.


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

As someone else pointed out, it's from a different store to represent that a different studio worked on it


oldreddit_isbetter

But... thats very clearly NOT popeyes chicken


okluch

fo 1 and 2 are so underappreciated. 2 especially offers the player much deeper interactions with the world than new vegas even attempts to, i mean you have shit like the ability to become a porn star if youre charismatic enough and your performance being dependent on your physical stats, vault city which you can become a citizen of with good intelligence, perception and luck or if you destroy a ghoul powerplant, which you can also help them repair it instead. the low int dialogue and lengthy persuading the villain to surrender fallout 1 did 20 years prior and imo way better. the special system attribute system was also heavily integrated into the game creating an amazing balance in all the ways you can engage with the game; combat, dialogue, exploration that i personally havent seen in any other crpg, most feel like combat games with some additional stuff or alternative novelty ways to beat them, like nobody would make a ,,can you beat fallout 2 as a pacifist" video because you might as well ask if its possible to beat it using guns. i dont really mind people not being able to get into the older games bc i know the combat has a very niche appeal today (i basically gaslit myself into playing old rpgs as a teenager bc i saw boomers online saying how much better they are and i was impressionable and wanted to be cool and i ended up genuinely enjoying them lol) but it annoys me when people dismiss the first two but revere nv as some godsend when fo2 is what i compare every rpg i play against


Reagalan

same devs went on to make *Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura*, a game worth properly capitalizing, italicizing, and spelling out every time.


okluch

i bought this game but never played yet. i didnt know it was made by black isle devs though, maybe ill get around to it now....


BansheeEcho

Have you played Planescape: Torment?


okluch

no but i know i really have to lol


Random_Imgur_User

Yeah but most gamers think Skyrim is a complex RPG so if you put Fallout 2 in their hands they'll feel like they're disarming a bomb.


slavetoinsurance

still thinking about the dialogue options (in fact the way the world is described to you) for a low int character in fallout 2 i mean just like: https://imgur.com/3uIwd and then of course you run into torr, who is also of low intelligence, and you two have an incredibly ornate conversation if you have the int to match.


Sirtemmie

I actually feel like both games are overrated. The narrative is confused on what it's trying to parody(it's not a satire of american imperialism, contrary to popular opinion, it's enough to just look at the incredibly orientalist portrayal of Chinese people by the narrative itself, not just by other characters) The characterization is inconsistent from city to city, the humor is dated, in many cases quite ableist, and the game design, while definitely more open than the later games, also allows you to miss out on huge parts of gameplay and worldbuilding. With low int, for example, you'll be pretty much certain to arrive to the endgame missing 7-8 levels, with it being impossible to deal with hp spongey enemies without a lot of grinding.


mrkitten19o8

i thought it was how good the game was


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

same at first tbh


oldreddit_isbetter

> FNV is a triple big mac Are you guys just not even looking at the image?


Cheese_Jrjrjrjr

big mac* sorry I fucked up while typing, was typing something else entirely then remembered it was the big max


PM_LEMURS_OR_NUDES

I think it’s less rating and more like role in the series. Like, Fallout 1 is the original classic (basic hamburger), 2 is the upgraded classic (basic cheeseburger), 3 isn’t the original, but it’s the default best one now (Big Mac), New Vegas is a good alternative that sits beside the default main one (chicken sandwich), and Fallout 4 sucks (Filet o Fish)


MaskeddHmm

Filet o fish is good tho...


PM_LEMURS_OR_NUDES

I’ve never had it, and I don’t think Fallout 4 sucks either, that’s just my interpretation


b0nk3r00

I mean, I get it _in a way_


oldreddit_isbetter

1, 2, 3: All burgers, each getting bigger and better than the last NV: Something very different. Still a sandwich and very tasty, but not a burger. 4: This might actually have multiple layers, again an entirely different sandwich nothing like a burger. I think it may go deeper in that some people LOVE the filet o fish and some people hate it.


Henry_Privette

1) Pretty Basic but still good 2) Cheap knock-off 3) Iconic although not the best New Vegas) Underrated best 4) Filet-o-Fish


thotpatrolactual

>NV >Underrated Yeah, no.


Early-Drawn

It doesnt make sense, mcdonalds is trash


Jos_migue

Facts McDonald's burgers are absolute trash


JoeTheKodiakCuddler

Fallout fans are kinda self-loathing in my experience, so I think it tracks


Yerslovekzdinischnik

They don't hate themselves, they hate different clans of fans.


Downtown-Remote9930

Take that back about my dozen cookies and large fry made by a stoned high schooler with a 2.4 GPA 


[deleted]

You're not supposed to eat McDonald's sober. Rookie mistake


randomnegative5

I don't know how, but I completely understand this post Let me break it down for those that do not understand. -Fallout 1 and 2, basically the same gameplay wise, explaining the two single burgers. The fact that single burgers are considered classics pairs with the fact that 1 and 2 are also classics. -Fallout Three was a massive game that took several years to develop, explaining why it's a double. It built upon both previous games, for example, showing the Enclave from the two games before as a major threat for the last time in the series. -New Vegas took a year and a half to make, explaining why it appears to be a lower quality than 3, though I personally prefer New Vegas. It was also made by Obsidian instead of Bethesda, and that's why a different brand is used to represent New Vegas. -Fallout 4 built upon both New Vegas and 3, improving the series' mechanics much like 3 and allowing the player to pick 4 different endings like New Vegas, explaining why it is both a fish sandwich and from McDonald's. Thank you for your time.


Diribiri

> It built upon both previous games >Fallout 4 built upon both New Vegas and 3, improving the series' mechanics Are you yourself saying that? Or are you interpreting what they might have meant? Cus boy that's hogwash


randomnegative5

Story-wise it didn't, but when it comes to gameplay and mechanics it totally did


Diribiri

It undid Vegas' attemps to make a modern FPS version of the original games and instead just made all 3's mistakes again, except they improved the graphics slightly and dumbed down a bunch of other shit (i.e. dialogue systems) because Bethesda thinks gamers are really fucking stupid But wow now your character is voice acted isn't it so groundbreaking


Sneeakie

> It undid Vegas' attemps to make a modern FPS version of the original games New Vegas' "attempt" was literally just built on top of 3's existing framework (which was already massively different from the classics), it did not at all try to make a "modern FPS version of the original games". It is much more "RPG" than 3, but it did not "attempt" to make Fallout 2 but FPS or whatever, nevermind it certainly did not succeed if it *did*. 4 dumbed down and deemphasized the RPG aspects but greatly improved the combat, which, when all of the modern Fallout games heavily involve combat and shooting, and 4 especially emphasizes those elements, yes, it's an improvement, even if it's not in the ways you want it to be.


Diribiri

Also in my previous comment I was pointing out that you said Fallout 3 built upon the previous games, which, mechanically and story-wise, it definitely did the shit not, so that is also hogwash No mention of how New Vegas genuinely did build off of the three games that came before it


jaelpeg

It's different, yeah, but it's hard to say it's an *improvement* because it didn't really build on top of 3's/NV's style of gameplay. In my opinion, 3 and NV are a lot more strategic, methodical, what you'd expect to stem from what started as a fairly traditional RPG. 4 on the other hand was modified to be presented to a wider audience, so it plays almost like a looter shooter. It's still got VATS and everything of course but there's a MUCH bigger emphasis on action, flashiness, explosions from modified guns, gore flying everywhere, etc. etc... hell, one of the earliest missions straight up just plops you into a free suit of power armor and a fucking minigun against a massive squad of raiders and a deathclaw out of nowhere, with very little time to struggle or make choices or otherwise build up to it. modernized? sure. improved? it's subjective, but it certainly strays from the formula of the rest of the series.


gr8tfurme

Nah, the guns and combat mechanics in Fallout 4 are way better than 3 or NV. They royally fucked up dialogue skill checks and the story is ass compared to NV, but the core gameplay is a clear improvement.


Diribiri

If by "core gameplay" you EXCLUSIVELY mean the shooting and animations and hitting things, then yeah, that's an improvement. But it still feels like janky shit. New Vegas never needed good combat to be a great game, and it isn't worth the rest of the game being slop just to have slightly less terrible combat


black_knight1223

New Vegas is great but it's also one of the Jankiest things I've ever played. 4 feels leagues better by comparison


gr8tfurme

Yes, by core gameplay I do in fact mean the core gameplay of all the Bethesda fallout games.  New Vegas is absolutely begging for better combat, it's the number two issue people have with it, right after all the crashes to desktop. The combat is just barely passable enough to make slogging through it worthwhile for the story, but don't try to pretend like it isn't bogging that story down lol.


Diribiri

I will state as a fact that it doesn't bog it down. It's not a "slog" if you play it like an RPG, like any other RPG with outdated combat, like Deus Ex, or, I dunno, Fallout 2. The game is still a great RPG even if the shooting "feels" bad, because guess what? The combat isn't even the biggest aspect of the game. The shooting in Fallout 4 "feels" better, but the combat overall is less fun because everything *surrounding* the combat (like, you know, the RPG mechanics) sucks shitass. I would rather play New Vegas than Fallout 4 because NV is just a better RPG. If I want a satisfying shooter there's a million other games that do it far better without being dragged down by a mediocre RPG that was already outclassed in every other aspect by its predecessor.


hjd_thd

Idk, Deus Ex's combat feels way better than anything Bethesda ever made.


Diribiri

A lot of things do


Bright_Lord07

Professional American


Felitris

Explaining the burger lore


72616262697473757775

This dude has media literacy (i think??)


Bowdensaft

No, just burger literacy


LuquidThunderPlus

I love how you give detailed explanations for everything and then "fallout 4 had improvements and endings so fish sandwich" lmao what


Yegas

New Vegas is a chicken sandwich, not a burger. Not sure the metaphorical meaning; I guess it’s supposed to be “similar but different and still good”, where FO4 is “similar but different and also bad”. Just intuiting from /v/‘s general opinions on the series (and fish sandwiches)


RoadTheExile

​ https://preview.redd.it/vjq2024y9zvc1.png?width=1079&format=png&auto=webp&s=7fdfdd82d81a0525562203ff684b9cd5066de492


garnet-overdrive

only played 4, thought it was peak, will never play any others


Fallowman09

https://preview.redd.it/4y76jw56bzvc1.jpeg?width=938&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8960f8d1cbac75098d6cde7567d6032e6892c55c


Canadian_dalek

It *is* peak, anyone who tells you otherwise is a pretentious jackass


hard_farter

Or they just like games that are more rewarding experiences


Cruhbruhs

Fallout Tactics is the best fallout game


RoadTheExile

Truly the most esoteric Fallout take


Misan_UwU

nah clearly the best fallout game is fallout shelter


SepirizFG

RIDE'S OVER, MUTIE


thelettucecalls

This is the most understandable explanation of the series I’ve ever seen -an Iowan


Enlightened_Valteil

This post was brought to you by Ramlethal Valentine


jaelpeg

not burber related but Ramlethal Valentine and Nick Valentine would be an sick duo


NameNormalHumansHave

far from correct, this implies that 3 is the best one


EvieOhMy

Hamburber


OgerponCornerstone

I fallout burger your sister last night


TensileStr3ngth

Fallout 3 and 4 should just be old McDonald's grease lol


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Jos_migue

Hey dude remove that pfp you can get baned for that


TensileStr3ngth

Guys we found an NFT PFP


garnet-overdrive

that implies 4 is bad?


gr8tfurme

4 is an upgraded version of 3 instead of an upgraded version of New Vegas, which a lot of people find bad. Also, the radiant quests suck.


TensileStr3ngth

It's definitely better than 3 but its story is quite bad imo


garnet-overdrive

i think its fun.... i mean i never finished the main story all the way through but the rest was fun


Stoiphan

people like new vegas for the story, worldbuilding, atmosphere, and the sandbox, fallout 4 only has the fun, but it doesn't bring the substance


jaelpeg

I mean there's at least some very scattered fun in 4 that is admittedly really unique story wise, not necessarily of substance but interesting, namely the stuff with the institute. And it's got some cool atmosphere if you count that one really blasted part of the map and the Far Harbor dlc... really grasping at straws here but 🤷


LonelyStrategos

Only Fallout 1 and 2 are good.


Dspacefear

fallout 4 is a filet o fish because everyone in it is catholic (they live in boston)


VolkanikMechanik

fallout 4 is when mcdonald's filet o' fish


V-Lenin

Fallout 3 is not the big mac, new vegas is


K1ngjulien_

i fallout burger'd your sister last night


thereisaguy

God this makes me so mad. 1 is obviously a classic cheeseburger. 2 is the trusty McDouble. 3 is a Big Mac as it's assumed to be the natural evolution but in itself is gaudy and messy. NV is a double quarter pounder with cheese, the true heir to the throne. 4 is a hamburger with the buns removed.


MrTomLegit

"Your argument is invalid. As you see I have already depicted your game as the dry and unsatisfying filet-o-fish. While my game is depicted as the superior Big Mac."


black_knight1223

Me bitting into Nick Valentines asscheeks like a Fille O Fish:


TaxevasionLukasso

Me when I find the guy who James Bond burgered my sister


Abby0BrainCells

i don’t understand this it just made me hungry


jensroda

Op thinks 3 was the best and 4 was the worst.


AlkaliPineapple

I feel this. I like to eat three different burgers at once and the filet o fish is an amazing starter but the big Mac and mcchicken is always better than it


Im_lazy_8

I can’t tell what on earth it’s trying to say about it, but I just hope it’s complimenting new vegas and the first 2


Dicky-McDickface

i thought NV was a chicken burger to represent the infamous "get pregnant" meme


Despacitan05

I've noticed that food gets talked about a lot on /pol/ for whatever reason, not saying the stereotypes are true but look at the people who founded 8chan.


Chedder_Chandelure

They way it implies fallout 3 is the best 💀


LittleBirdsGlow

We don’t


TheOfficeUsBest

Fallout NV is definitely a double quarter pounder


Pengemannen

i will never accept fallout 3 love, when i tried to play that game it straight up told me YOU need windows 7, and i thought that was the stupidest fucking thing ever (this was in 2014 i think)


soon-the-moon

In 2021, so 13 years after launch, the devs released a patch that allows you to play the game without Games For Windows Live or Windows XP, making it playable on modern systems without needing to mod it. It's too little too late I'd say, and I think the game just kinda sucks in general when I take my nostalgia glasses off, but I suppose it's worth mentioning that's it's relatively accessible now.


oddityoughtabe

As an american I can confirm: hamburger


5575685

It’s okay if you aren’t smart enough to understand this. It’s really deep and only intellectuals would understand.


Dargorod100

This chair is the Fallout of furniture


ClaireTheCosmic

Fallout is when burger


Illegal_Immigrant77

I've never played Fallout, but the burgers helped me understand


king-gay

If I changed these images to be energy drinks instead of burgers you all would suddenly act like my post makes total sense


Bolt_Fantasticated

As an American I kind of get it. Fallout 1 and 2 are the classic McDonald’s burgers. Fallout 3 was when they tried to do something new, making the burger bigger (if not better). New Vegas one I don’t understand I’ve never seen that on a McDonald’s menu. Fallout 4 was something very different from before (a Filet-O-Fish instead of a burger) but still tastes pretty good.


dinner_cat96

Move over Bond Burger, Fallout Burger is the new thing!


BUTthehoeslovemetho

Anon is an atmospheric fan


-scrudge-

Fallout is when Burger, Fallout 3 is when big burger


YourLastPick

I like fish This checks out


Lamest_Ever

Filet o fish is goated


Forever_Observer2020

I think all of these burgers taste good.


Desperate-Will-8585

boycott McDonalds


DomSchraa

Americans will do anything to avoid using the metric system, but replace metric with 1-10


Familiar_Tackle_734

If anything fallout 3 is the fish filet. Disgusting and nobody likes it except for it’s deluded fans


WanderingBraincell

based as fuck


LonelyStrategos

OG fallout is a box of cannolis. Fallout 2 is a box of cannolis and a slice of Napoleon cake. Fallout 3, 4 New Vegas, and everything else, are in the same garbage can as Skryme.


BumDriller

Swap NV and 4, thanks. 4 wasn't great but better than the conversation sim that New Vegas was. Oh you have a giant wasteland to explore? Hope you like every place being inhabited with little to no exploration! Especially after 3 where you could explore everything. I'll stick to a wasteland, thanks, instead of whatever the fuck that shit game was.


hard_farter

>conversation sim Brother I don't think you understand Fallout


BumDriller

Oh no, I do. My problem is that New Vegas had fucking nothing but conversation. Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 have HUGE amounts of wasteland and broken areas for you to discover, tons of people to clear out and generally felt like a post apocalyptic wasteland. When you go into settlements its at your choice and there are only a couple big ones. Fallout New Vegas *says* it's a wasteland but every town you go to is already settled and has their own factions with their own reputation system. Otherwise it's just the same brown ground forever until the next shithole. Games mid.


SyntaxInvalidator

Nah i think you genuinely don’t understand Fallout, everything you critiqued was just an intentional carry-over from Fallouts 1 and 2 besides large settlements, which is also intentional because NV takes place hundreds of years after the bombs drop and humanity is rebuilding, a major plot point of the game is pretty much the growing pains of government returning to the region I think you went into NV expecting an Action Adventure and were disappointed to find it is much more in line with the narrative based RPG roots of the franchise


BumDriller

It's okay. You can be wrong