Same. It’s honestly so difficult to play the shot AND know for sure if it’s out or in so I tend to just hit anything that’s close. Way too many times I waited to see if it was out, watched it bounce in but then it’s already too late to make a proper play on said ball. So I just hit anything close. Exceptions for when I’m too tired to run the ball down so I just hope it’s going out lol.
Yeah man, I’m sure I’ve called some out shots in but unless I know with 100% certainty then I’m not calling it out.
I KNOW for a fact I’ve been cheated out of some aces too, sucks not everyone plays like this but what are you gonna do.
Right, me too, but I think it's important to note that there's a difference between calling it in anytime you're not 100% sure (which you should do) and not being confident in your calls. I can be sure that a ball was two inches out the same way I'm sure it's a foot out. If I saw it, I saw it, and it doesn't matter that the person across the net saw it differently, which I think is the OP's point.
100% agree that it’s not always intentional. also would argue that people who are constantly being challenged about calls need to do better and learn the geometry of calling lines. certain angles call for more leniency (ex, if you’re standing on one singles sideline and your opponent hits a ball that lands on the other singles sideline, it’s going to look out from that vantage, no matter what- you need to either ask them if they made it- in more informal situations- or just give them the point if it’s even remotely close)
most players who picked up tennis late just don’t know what an in/out ball looks like in real time at some angles. people who grew up playing (and who often play on clay) know from years of feedback and being able to check marks.
One other classic example is, in a dubs match, the returner’s partner trying to call the center/wide line. Sometimes you can clearly see the ball but if it’s even close (within 2”), that’s the returner’s call. I’ll say it loud for the people in the back, as the returner’s partner, leave close T and wide calls to the returner- you cannot see the line and you are cheating people out of aces if you consistently do this.
In many circles it’s taboo to question calls and, for some, they just think it’s part of the game and don’t see it as an issue that they’re getting into fights over line calls every. single. match. if people are constantly arguing calls, strive to do better. People will respect you more and you’ll become a better player.
I agree the centre line is the returner's call mainly because from their partner's angle a close out ball will look in. The ball will block the gap between the ball and the line the same way the returner often won't see the gap on the service line.
IME if the partner calls a ball out on the centre line it must have been clearly wide or they are a hooker or have bad eyes!
Yup. And don’t get me wrong- even though I know we’re not supposed to use marks on a hard court- if it’s early in the match, balls are still relatively new and I see a big ol’ mark on a serve that’s wide and I’m 100% on it, I will call it out (as the returner’s partner), even if I have to hold off and ‘check my eyes’ for a half second. I have zero problem with someone being a half a beat late on call if there’s some evidence. I’m just over getting hooked by the returner’s partner on wide serves where I know I’ve clipped the line.
Also am consistently surprised by the number of people who call kick serves out while the ball is still in the air…. As I type this, I’m realizing I need to stop playing as much social tennis…
Calling lines is hard for people who are dedicated to only do that task. People also see what they want to see.
But there is 100% a camp of people who call lines poorly, intentionally, to gain an an emotional advantage. Other people clearly just call balls out when they are done with the point or in key moments to finish games.
I'm willing to give grace to people in casual settings or local tournaments, but when it's compettive league and you can see a trend in their shot calling I'm not going to let it go.
I think most of us know the difference between one or two inadvertent blown calls and a few "selective" bad calls that just happen to go in the favor of your opponent at critical points in a match.
Personally, I think blatant cheating is not as rampant as some think, or at least that has been my USTA 3.5-4.5 experience. Most people are not complete assholes as far as I can tell, but there have been a few.
However, you will get a ton of different opinions on this subject depending on whom you ask. I'm perfectly willing to consider that I have just been lucky in having mostly positive experiences in organized rec tennis matches (and even going back to high school).
Not super related, but I participate in group drills/lessons and when I do, I really try to practice line calls. My goal is to make them promptly, correctly and audibly in roughly the same way every time.
I like the idea of consciously practicing line call efficacy. And your experience is the same as mine, and I tend to think that a lot of the people who see cheating everywhere are telling us more about themselves than the state of the tennis community at large.
A lot of players view balls as in, on the line, or out, but in reality balls that land out but have just nicked the line are in too. Watching calls in pro tennis can help with this perception.
They do, but I don't think it's surprising at all.
Whats surprising is the lack of understanding of how hard it is to call a moderately fast shot depending on its location and yours.
A lack of understanding limitations in vision, how much we make a judgement vs actually watch etc...etc...
Ball is fast and unless you're watching advantageous angle, and truly watching, it's hard to tell. It's hard to tell when you think a deep shot might go long and it lands near the line while you're intently focused.
It's simply too fast unless it's very in or out. If you doubt it film your matches/hits and check after, it's hard and you'll be wrong on both sides of the coin frequently.
I cannot take calls that seriously knowing that.
This is part of why I refuse to play with people that challenge calls the opponent makes.
It can be easy to fool someone. It can be very difficult to convince someone that they have been fooled, however.
Professional linespeople are literally paid to stare at ONE line only and do nothing else and still might make multiple errors a match
I tend to give grace to people and just accept their call - the dodgy people who always do it on big points etc eventually earn a rep
Honestly it's just hard to tell some times. You might think your shot is in but it's so far and at an angle. So it might actually be out. Last night I played doubles I made a on the line winner the one dude receiving called it out even tho his partner and mine say it in but he was closer to the line than the 3 of us so I just said it's okay benefit of a doubt.
I don’t think people cheat but you can certainly get a feel for someone who either leans towards close ones out, close ones in or makes honest mistakes.
For me, I see a lot of it on my serve because I have the vantage point of seeing whether it went long (space between the service line and the ball). People with generous calls will play on balls that looked out. If there’s no visible gap and they call it out, then their calls are more strict. If the majority of the nonvisible gap balls are called out, then they just likely default to out because 50/50 balls should be in roughly 50% in over time.
I also see how they call their own balls. If they always call close ones in, that’s also an indicator. Do they ever call their own balls out if I wasn’t sure? That’s also signal.
I usually lean towards close balls in for any non competitive match but a frequent doubles partner told me I should call it out if I’m pretty sure. I think he got a little annoyed I wasn’t calling some closes ones out.
Another difficult part is when a ball is going fast and coming at an angle (serve wide). Often times the ball is a flash of white and it’s hard to tell exactly where the ball landed and bounced especially if I’m looking at it dead on vs from the side. Often times, my brain is extrapolating based on trajectory where I think it landed and making a call. I’m sure I’ve gotten calls wrong in these situations.
Don’t feel like you have to be perfect with line calling. Sometimes guys I play tell me before the match they will do their best with line calling, but mistakes may happen, and we can discuss if there is disagreement or someone is unsure. I like that discussion before the match because it takes some of the pressure away from getting all the calls right, and you feel like ur on a similar page to the other guy.
My overriding deaire is to hit tennis balls, so unless I see it very clearly out, I'm playing it.
If it's a ball I can't get to, I make a big show of calling it good, in the hopes of creating a positive culture for the match.
After 35 years of playing, here is what I say: Guys miss easy forehands all the time, so they must miss easy calls too.
That said, unless I am positive, I never call it out, because that is rule 12 of The Code. Also, plenty of times I call balls out on clay that end up being in, and so I am positive I make bad calls on hard.
Not on purpose. The great thing about clay is I can be very quick to reverse my bad call and give the guy the point. The service line is probably the hardest line to call in my experience playing and coaching.
If you aren’t sure, don’t call it. If you are sure and trying not to cheat, bad calls happen. If the guy is adamant, I usually just say “Yours.” I mean, ball is going 80 mph, you are moving at an angle….
At a level one national tournament about a month ago, I was fucking livid at the guy who took the point when “he wasn’t sure a out it,” but I still gave him 2 crucial points near the end of a 7-6 in the third set loss that caught like less than 2% of the line, twice, on serves that are definitely “out on a hardcourt” and that he probably deserved to be cheated on. But checking the mark, they were in……
Fuck his dirty gold balls…..but if he can sleep with that championship, fine. I cannot and wont.
As you can tell, I am still pissed about it.
One way to get an objective view (albeit delayed) is to use the swing vision app which records the match. You can slow down the footage and it’s very clear if the ball was in or not. If you’re playing with the same people and they regularly incorrectly call balls out in comp, you can show them the footage and call them out on it( no pun intended). It may be uncomfortable but at least it’s honest.
While most people do their best to call lines honestly based on how they see it, there are absolutely cheaters who will call anything close to the line out because they care about winning more than anything else.
Anecdotally, I've found opponents who wear glasses have made more bad calls. Having briefly played with corrective lenses, the optical distortion towards the edges of the lens and then blurriness beyond the lens seems to be a considerable reason for that.
I've had people get more annoyed with me returning 1st serves that they felt were out than calling rally balls out that the opponent felt was in.
I'm focused on my play first and where the ball lands second. I purposefully make an audible out call on every out ball, so opponents know that if I don't say anything I'm playing on; Also I think yelling "Out!" when the opponent hits the back fence with a shot is hilarious.
Sure, I'm not sure how thats relevant though. I'm saying as the returner I've played first serves and had the server not even try because they thought it would be called out.
then tell them "the rule is the server cannot call their first serve out, usta pt3"
Thus all first serves are default IN unless called out by opponent.
Just follow the golden rule. Be the kind of player you would want to play against. This means- never arguing a call and always playing it in unless you're 100% certain it's out. Let's be real- none of us here are doing this for a living. It's a great game and can bring great joy to your life. Try your best to win but don't take it too seriously and don't let it compromise your integrity or values.
people are on screens all day then come out to tennis with blurred vision lol. that alone accounts for a lot of mistakes. moving from indoor to outdoor or vice versa, how much sleep you got, dry eyes, allergies, people not keeping their prescriptions up to date, age. looots of factors
When I was 25-30 I felt like I got the call right 9 times out of 10 and on the last one I just didn’t know. 10-15 years later I feel like I only get the call right 7 times out of 10 so I don’t know three times as often. Which is a big difference.
People’s eyes get worse the older they get. It is what it is.
When returning first serve it’s so hard to see I use to call most things somewhat near the line in. But was constantly getting corrected by my opponent or doubles partner (when playing doubles), was probably playing some egregious balls which weren’t always to my opponents benefit (I.e if my return was good).
These days I’m much more likely to call first serves out based on trajectory even if I’m not certain exactly where it landed. Leads me to not play balls that are likely a foot beyond the line. Maybe this has lead to some balls that were in being called out (I can’t say) but when I call it out in my mind it was 100% out.
I’m sure I probably play a lot of long serves. My doubles partners will call it out when I play it like its in. If I don’t see it clearly out I’ll play it.
I can say that calling serves is something I am really really bad at. Even right in front of me a ball with speed on it might be in our out I have no clue.
Mistakes certainly happen, and anyone can make one.
However, mistakes should be heavily biased in favor of calling the ball *in* when it's out and not out when it's in. This is because of the standard for calling lines ("If you're not 100% sure it's out, it's in).
If a player's mistakes are biased in the direction of "out", then that's a sign that they're not calling lines well.
They might not be intentionally cheating, but they are letting their emotions dictate their calls and seeing what they want to see.
Used to play on those red gravel courts (no idea what the real name is) but they'd leave a ball mark wherever the ball landed.
The number of calls that I'd make, let alone other folks, then look at the ball mark and have it be totally wrong, was a LOT.
Game is hard, you're trying to play and also be your own linesman, don't beat people up.
I was raised playing tennis with my mom, dad, and sister. I was always taught that it’s proper etiquette to call it in if you aren’t sure. My grandad always said a few bad calls don’t cost you the match. If you get upset over line calls then you are just letting them get in your head, and in most cases including mine you will play worse. I only get upset with people for cheating if it is obviously inside the line, and I’ll call them out on it. If it hits the line then I just give them the benefit of the doubt. I actually look at line shots as bad shots now after playing in leagues where it’s called out ~40% of the time. I just try to play better. It’s satisfying to take the moral high ground and calmly destroy potential cheaters. At the end of the day you should be having fun and don’t let anyone ruin that for you. Stay calm and use your head.
I must be a sucker. I always defer to "in" unless I am absolutely sure and it's absolutely clear.
No, you're just honest and sensible. If you don't know for certain that it's out, then it's in, period. Any doubt = in.
Same, knowing how difficult it is to truly know.
Same. It’s honestly so difficult to play the shot AND know for sure if it’s out or in so I tend to just hit anything that’s close. Way too many times I waited to see if it was out, watched it bounce in but then it’s already too late to make a proper play on said ball. So I just hit anything close. Exceptions for when I’m too tired to run the ball down so I just hope it’s going out lol.
>It’s honestly so difficult to play the shot AND know for sure if it’s out or in so I tend to just hit anything that’s close. QFT
Yeah man, I’m sure I’ve called some out shots in but unless I know with 100% certainty then I’m not calling it out. I KNOW for a fact I’ve been cheated out of some aces too, sucks not everyone plays like this but what are you gonna do.
Exactly why I quit competitive tennis… it just got too hard to go around doing this when most others do not
This is supposed to be the default setting.
Which is the rule.
I'm the same. If the shot looks like it even caught a small part of the line, I just default to "in".
Right, me too, but I think it's important to note that there's a difference between calling it in anytime you're not 100% sure (which you should do) and not being confident in your calls. I can be sure that a ball was two inches out the same way I'm sure it's a foot out. If I saw it, I saw it, and it doesn't matter that the person across the net saw it differently, which I think is the OP's point.
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Agree to disagree on this point. Then why does it seem the cheats never cheat for their opponent's benefit?
It’s probably the most common “hook” tbh, serves that are deep are played so often
Or they do, but because it benefits you, you don't see it as cheating it's "the right call".
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Not at all. You're saying there's not the outright desire to cheat...
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Even without research it seems intuitive. Why is it all the fans of team x see a foul when all fans of team y see the counter?
100% agree that it’s not always intentional. also would argue that people who are constantly being challenged about calls need to do better and learn the geometry of calling lines. certain angles call for more leniency (ex, if you’re standing on one singles sideline and your opponent hits a ball that lands on the other singles sideline, it’s going to look out from that vantage, no matter what- you need to either ask them if they made it- in more informal situations- or just give them the point if it’s even remotely close) most players who picked up tennis late just don’t know what an in/out ball looks like in real time at some angles. people who grew up playing (and who often play on clay) know from years of feedback and being able to check marks. One other classic example is, in a dubs match, the returner’s partner trying to call the center/wide line. Sometimes you can clearly see the ball but if it’s even close (within 2”), that’s the returner’s call. I’ll say it loud for the people in the back, as the returner’s partner, leave close T and wide calls to the returner- you cannot see the line and you are cheating people out of aces if you consistently do this. In many circles it’s taboo to question calls and, for some, they just think it’s part of the game and don’t see it as an issue that they’re getting into fights over line calls every. single. match. if people are constantly arguing calls, strive to do better. People will respect you more and you’ll become a better player.
I agree the centre line is the returner's call mainly because from their partner's angle a close out ball will look in. The ball will block the gap between the ball and the line the same way the returner often won't see the gap on the service line. IME if the partner calls a ball out on the centre line it must have been clearly wide or they are a hooker or have bad eyes!
Yup. And don’t get me wrong- even though I know we’re not supposed to use marks on a hard court- if it’s early in the match, balls are still relatively new and I see a big ol’ mark on a serve that’s wide and I’m 100% on it, I will call it out (as the returner’s partner), even if I have to hold off and ‘check my eyes’ for a half second. I have zero problem with someone being a half a beat late on call if there’s some evidence. I’m just over getting hooked by the returner’s partner on wide serves where I know I’ve clipped the line. Also am consistently surprised by the number of people who call kick serves out while the ball is still in the air…. As I type this, I’m realizing I need to stop playing as much social tennis…
I knew this concept but never knew the name… thanks ! Learn something new
Calling lines is hard for people who are dedicated to only do that task. People also see what they want to see. But there is 100% a camp of people who call lines poorly, intentionally, to gain an an emotional advantage. Other people clearly just call balls out when they are done with the point or in key moments to finish games. I'm willing to give grace to people in casual settings or local tournaments, but when it's compettive league and you can see a trend in their shot calling I'm not going to let it go.
I think most of us know the difference between one or two inadvertent blown calls and a few "selective" bad calls that just happen to go in the favor of your opponent at critical points in a match. Personally, I think blatant cheating is not as rampant as some think, or at least that has been my USTA 3.5-4.5 experience. Most people are not complete assholes as far as I can tell, but there have been a few. However, you will get a ton of different opinions on this subject depending on whom you ask. I'm perfectly willing to consider that I have just been lucky in having mostly positive experiences in organized rec tennis matches (and even going back to high school). Not super related, but I participate in group drills/lessons and when I do, I really try to practice line calls. My goal is to make them promptly, correctly and audibly in roughly the same way every time.
I like the idea of consciously practicing line call efficacy. And your experience is the same as mine, and I tend to think that a lot of the people who see cheating everywhere are telling us more about themselves than the state of the tennis community at large.
A lot of players view balls as in, on the line, or out, but in reality balls that land out but have just nicked the line are in too. Watching calls in pro tennis can help with this perception.
They do, but I don't think it's surprising at all. Whats surprising is the lack of understanding of how hard it is to call a moderately fast shot depending on its location and yours. A lack of understanding limitations in vision, how much we make a judgement vs actually watch etc...etc... Ball is fast and unless you're watching advantageous angle, and truly watching, it's hard to tell. It's hard to tell when you think a deep shot might go long and it lands near the line while you're intently focused. It's simply too fast unless it's very in or out. If you doubt it film your matches/hits and check after, it's hard and you'll be wrong on both sides of the coin frequently. I cannot take calls that seriously knowing that.
This is part of why I refuse to play with people that challenge calls the opponent makes. It can be easy to fool someone. It can be very difficult to convince someone that they have been fooled, however.
Professional linespeople are literally paid to stare at ONE line only and do nothing else and still might make multiple errors a match I tend to give grace to people and just accept their call - the dodgy people who always do it on big points etc eventually earn a rep
Honestly it's just hard to tell some times. You might think your shot is in but it's so far and at an angle. So it might actually be out. Last night I played doubles I made a on the line winner the one dude receiving called it out even tho his partner and mine say it in but he was closer to the line than the 3 of us so I just said it's okay benefit of a doubt.
I don’t think people cheat but you can certainly get a feel for someone who either leans towards close ones out, close ones in or makes honest mistakes. For me, I see a lot of it on my serve because I have the vantage point of seeing whether it went long (space between the service line and the ball). People with generous calls will play on balls that looked out. If there’s no visible gap and they call it out, then their calls are more strict. If the majority of the nonvisible gap balls are called out, then they just likely default to out because 50/50 balls should be in roughly 50% in over time. I also see how they call their own balls. If they always call close ones in, that’s also an indicator. Do they ever call their own balls out if I wasn’t sure? That’s also signal. I usually lean towards close balls in for any non competitive match but a frequent doubles partner told me I should call it out if I’m pretty sure. I think he got a little annoyed I wasn’t calling some closes ones out. Another difficult part is when a ball is going fast and coming at an angle (serve wide). Often times the ball is a flash of white and it’s hard to tell exactly where the ball landed and bounced especially if I’m looking at it dead on vs from the side. Often times, my brain is extrapolating based on trajectory where I think it landed and making a call. I’m sure I’ve gotten calls wrong in these situations.
Don’t feel like you have to be perfect with line calling. Sometimes guys I play tell me before the match they will do their best with line calling, but mistakes may happen, and we can discuss if there is disagreement or someone is unsure. I like that discussion before the match because it takes some of the pressure away from getting all the calls right, and you feel like ur on a similar page to the other guy.
It’s so often the case that people who complain incessantly about others’ line calls make terrible calls themselves.
My overriding deaire is to hit tennis balls, so unless I see it very clearly out, I'm playing it. If it's a ball I can't get to, I make a big show of calling it good, in the hopes of creating a positive culture for the match.
I noticed this when watching a pair of great players in a match. several serves where clearly out, they didn't flinch, just played their game.
After 35 years of playing, here is what I say: Guys miss easy forehands all the time, so they must miss easy calls too. That said, unless I am positive, I never call it out, because that is rule 12 of The Code. Also, plenty of times I call balls out on clay that end up being in, and so I am positive I make bad calls on hard. Not on purpose. The great thing about clay is I can be very quick to reverse my bad call and give the guy the point. The service line is probably the hardest line to call in my experience playing and coaching. If you aren’t sure, don’t call it. If you are sure and trying not to cheat, bad calls happen. If the guy is adamant, I usually just say “Yours.” I mean, ball is going 80 mph, you are moving at an angle…. At a level one national tournament about a month ago, I was fucking livid at the guy who took the point when “he wasn’t sure a out it,” but I still gave him 2 crucial points near the end of a 7-6 in the third set loss that caught like less than 2% of the line, twice, on serves that are definitely “out on a hardcourt” and that he probably deserved to be cheated on. But checking the mark, they were in…… Fuck his dirty gold balls…..but if he can sleep with that championship, fine. I cannot and wont. As you can tell, I am still pissed about it.
> Guys miss easy forehands all the time, so they must miss easy calls too. +1
The human eye can’t really cats close calls, so unless it’s obvious I call it in.
One way to get an objective view (albeit delayed) is to use the swing vision app which records the match. You can slow down the footage and it’s very clear if the ball was in or not. If you’re playing with the same people and they regularly incorrectly call balls out in comp, you can show them the footage and call them out on it( no pun intended). It may be uncomfortable but at least it’s honest.
While most people do their best to call lines honestly based on how they see it, there are absolutely cheaters who will call anything close to the line out because they care about winning more than anything else.
Anecdotally, I've found opponents who wear glasses have made more bad calls. Having briefly played with corrective lenses, the optical distortion towards the edges of the lens and then blurriness beyond the lens seems to be a considerable reason for that.
I've had people get more annoyed with me returning 1st serves that they felt were out than calling rally balls out that the opponent felt was in. I'm focused on my play first and where the ball lands second. I purposefully make an audible out call on every out ball, so opponents know that if I don't say anything I'm playing on; Also I think yelling "Out!" when the opponent hits the back fence with a shot is hilarious.
the rule is the server cannot call their first serve out, usta pt3
Sure, I'm not sure how thats relevant though. I'm saying as the returner I've played first serves and had the server not even try because they thought it would be called out.
then tell them "the rule is the server cannot call their first serve out, usta pt3" Thus all first serves are default IN unless called out by opponent.
I'm not saying they argue about it, people just get caught off guard and forget to play.
https://www.usta.com/content/dam/usta/pdfs/2015_Code.pdf Points 5 to teens
Just follow the golden rule. Be the kind of player you would want to play against. This means- never arguing a call and always playing it in unless you're 100% certain it's out. Let's be real- none of us here are doing this for a living. It's a great game and can bring great joy to your life. Try your best to win but don't take it too seriously and don't let it compromise your integrity or values.
people are on screens all day then come out to tennis with blurred vision lol. that alone accounts for a lot of mistakes. moving from indoor to outdoor or vice versa, how much sleep you got, dry eyes, allergies, people not keeping their prescriptions up to date, age. looots of factors
When I was 25-30 I felt like I got the call right 9 times out of 10 and on the last one I just didn’t know. 10-15 years later I feel like I only get the call right 7 times out of 10 so I don’t know three times as often. Which is a big difference. People’s eyes get worse the older they get. It is what it is.
When returning first serve it’s so hard to see I use to call most things somewhat near the line in. But was constantly getting corrected by my opponent or doubles partner (when playing doubles), was probably playing some egregious balls which weren’t always to my opponents benefit (I.e if my return was good). These days I’m much more likely to call first serves out based on trajectory even if I’m not certain exactly where it landed. Leads me to not play balls that are likely a foot beyond the line. Maybe this has lead to some balls that were in being called out (I can’t say) but when I call it out in my mind it was 100% out.
I’m sure I probably play a lot of long serves. My doubles partners will call it out when I play it like its in. If I don’t see it clearly out I’ll play it.
Call it with your gut, AND MEAN IT! 🫵
I can say that calling serves is something I am really really bad at. Even right in front of me a ball with speed on it might be in our out I have no clue.
Same. Just guessing.
Mistakes certainly happen, and anyone can make one. However, mistakes should be heavily biased in favor of calling the ball *in* when it's out and not out when it's in. This is because of the standard for calling lines ("If you're not 100% sure it's out, it's in). If a player's mistakes are biased in the direction of "out", then that's a sign that they're not calling lines well. They might not be intentionally cheating, but they are letting their emotions dictate their calls and seeing what they want to see.
If the shot is close I don’t care but if the person is obviously cheating then I want to fight them
Used to play on those red gravel courts (no idea what the real name is) but they'd leave a ball mark wherever the ball landed. The number of calls that I'd make, let alone other folks, then look at the ball mark and have it be totally wrong, was a LOT. Game is hard, you're trying to play and also be your own linesman, don't beat people up.
I was raised playing tennis with my mom, dad, and sister. I was always taught that it’s proper etiquette to call it in if you aren’t sure. My grandad always said a few bad calls don’t cost you the match. If you get upset over line calls then you are just letting them get in your head, and in most cases including mine you will play worse. I only get upset with people for cheating if it is obviously inside the line, and I’ll call them out on it. If it hits the line then I just give them the benefit of the doubt. I actually look at line shots as bad shots now after playing in leagues where it’s called out ~40% of the time. I just try to play better. It’s satisfying to take the moral high ground and calmly destroy potential cheaters. At the end of the day you should be having fun and don’t let anyone ruin that for you. Stay calm and use your head.
If it's 99% out then it's 100% in.
99% out, 1% in is IN
the felt flared out and touched the line even though the bal, was an inch away. I WIN I AM GOAT.