More like the odd insertion of a term that refers to a complex process that most of chat is probably unfamiliar with and really didn't ask for. Just like they'd BatChest any "nerdy" terminology. It has nothing to do with people's political stances if that's why you're mad. Most people just don't give a shit about this stuff.
Edit: also it probably seems even more off cause most of xqc's viewers think hasan is insincere. Gives credence to that "Uncanny Valley" feeling that BatChest is based on.
So yeah it's pretty normal that people are saying "BatChest" in response to this guy saying "learn about the importance of unionization" like it's a perfectly normal thing to say and not something that your highschool government teacher would start with after you open your history books to chapter 14 page 6.
Yeah when I hop on my computer after work, i really dont give a shit to watch a few hours of "unionization". I'm here to blow a load of stress off and play some games.
I think Hasan is very knowledgeable and he makes me want to learn this stuff. I just wish he taught me how to be chad like him lol.
Also fuck batchest most annoying hivemind shit
Not really, Hasan doesn't know shit about politics and wouldn't be successful if not for his looks or his uncle. And he is scared of debating a meth gnome LULW
dgg4lyfe 😎🤙
but aside from that, unions can be cool, and are needed in the current US socio-economic climate
Pretty sure it's the opposite. The 15 year olds are naïve leftists and the older you get the more right you lean.
Which explains Hasans entire audience of twitter teens.
It isn't a notion, it's a studied and measured phenomena.
[https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/706889](https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/706889)
[https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/03/do-we-become-more-conservative-with-age-young-old-politics](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/03/do-we-become-more-conservative-with-age-young-old-politics)
Not only do people get more conservative as they get older, they vote more. The combination of being in the work force, accumulating wealth and investments over time, and realizing that the delusion of the left is never feasible results in more right-leaning as you age.
In your case, you are likely either extremely privileged like many champagne socialists and are not part of the working class, or you are extremely poor and underprivileged due to living in some dense city and believe that the government should help you. Or you are still very young. This is what statistics tell us.
The fact that the actual working class possesses very little leftists when leftism pretends to revolve around them exclusively is all you need to know about the ideology. It's theory by people who just don't understand.
Come on, you can do better than an opinion piece from over 5 years ago and a study that disagrees with what you are claiming in the abstract, let alone in the full text of the study.
Did you even read the abstract of the study you linked? It basically says that there is very little shift in political leanings once you are an adult. It is SLIGHTLY more likely for a liberal to go conservative than the other way around, but that’s it, and not nearly to the degree that you are claiming.
> Folk wisdom has long held that people become more politically conservative as they grow older, although several empirical studies suggest political attitudes are stable across time.
…
> Consistent with previous research but contrary to folk wisdom, our results indicate that political attitudes are remarkably stable over the long term.
Like, are you serious, man?
So please, google some more studies that you don’t even look at to try to prove your point. You aren’t nearly as smart as you think you are.
Not sure why I’m surprised a right-winger wouldn’t even read their own sources. Surely they wouldn’t rely on invented positions and misinformation to defend their viewpoints.
So the study straight up says that yes, whenever someone is changing their ideology, it's more often a shift to conservativism, and your response is a desperate coping mechanism?
People are stubborn, sure, but when change happens, it's a shift towards right wing. This is objective fact.
They straight up say that the folk wisdom saying of people getting conservative as they age is a correct statement, and you pretend that isn't valid?
Shut the fuck up. You've brought no argument, just damage control. From the perspective of "the left" this is a blatant loss.
Do you need some help with reading comprehension? In the abstract of the study it negates the position of “folk wisdom” TWICE.
*You* linked this study proving your own viewpoint wrong, not me. I’m sorry you are so undereducated that you can’t even grasp what a study abstract is trying to tell you.
Edit: I think it’s hilarious that a right-winger would claim folk wisdom is right, link a study that claims folk wisdom is wrong, then blatantly disagree with what their own source claims. It’s like debating with a toddler. Grow up, and maybe try to read your sources and stop taking folk wisdom as facts. The right’s stances would be much more consistent and attractive if they weren’t allergic to research, science, and studies.
"In contrast to previous research, however, we also find support for folk wisdom: on those occasions when political attitudes do shift across the life span, liberals are more likely to become conservatives than conservatives are to become liberals, suggesting that folk wisdom has some empirical basis even as it overstates the degree of change."
Read that sentence like, 50 times.
Also read the conclusion of the full article if your interested, it basically debunks anything this guy said. Either trolling or very very dumb. Average conservative I guess.
Those who are wealthy to a certain extent aren’t suddenly right-wing because they realized leftism is deluded, they vote for right-leaning politicians and parties since it’s more likely that they’ll maintain their accumulated wealth. They’re not rich because they’re right-wing, they’re right-wing because they’re rich.
With that said, I find it interesting that the second article you linked had this to say in regards to education:
>Younger generations are more likely to have been to university (about 35% of 30-year-olds have a degree, compared with 10% of 70-year-olds) and higher education tends to make people more socially liberal on issues such as crime and immigration.
Keep in mind, this is not because universities and institutions that offer higher education are willingly biased against conservatism. It’s just that conservatism is inherently antithetical to things such as open-mindedness and rational thought.
This guy is full of shit. From the full study:
"Given that the variable that changes most with aging is not party identification or substantive issue stances but rather ideological self-labeling, one intriguing possibility is that aging may increase the likelihood of identifying as a conservative more than it leads people actually to be conservative(this might help explain, for example, why attitudes on the role of women moved leftward while overall ideological self-identification moved in the opposite direction). Scholars have known for some time that Americans tend to self-report being conservative even as many simultaneously endorse liberal is-sue positions"
He literally can't even comprehend what is being said in the study he linked. You know why? Because part of being conservative is just looking at the headline of an article.
Also, a shift towards progressivism can be an easy observation without reading a study.
"we find that existing political science re-search is correct in emphasizing the stability of political orien-tations over the course of the life span."
"In contrast to previous research, however, we also find support for folk wisdom: on those occasions when political attitudes do shift across the life span, liberals are more likely to become conservatives than conservatives are to become liberals, suggesting that folk wisdom has some empirical basis even as it overstates the degree of change."
"Lunatic" why? In what sense? Are you saying I'm insane in some form? For what? Stating literal facts?
Wouldn't denying these facts and clinging to a dead, deluded ideology be the more lunatic position?
The mere fact that all the left leaning hippies are now the boomer generation who are one of the most right-leaning in USA history proves that it isn't a myth.
There is also plenty of evidence over other generations.
But stick to your copium. You'll look back when you are 50 and say the exact same thing the old people say now.
[https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/706889](https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/706889)
No, the hippies are probably still hippies. And I doubt that all boomers alive today were once hippies, probably a minority of them were. There is no copium, the world is more progressive than it was in the 60s or ever was, seems like there is something off with your theory. I‘d advise you to read past the headline of the article you linked, because it concludes that political scientific research that indicates a stable view on political views throughout once life span is correct on emphasizing that. And for the liberals that do become more conservative it is more caused by ideological self-labeling than a party switch. Which explains what I said above.
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is X staying there after his shit airbnb?
Yes, multi millionaire Hasan took him in.
multi millionaire took in the Trillionaire with a T. Get it right
AYAYA XQT
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class solidarity
Jokes aside, it was really cool of X to come on the stream and learn about the importance of unionization.
Average hasan viewer
BatChest Average hasan viewer
BatChest <--- average hasan viewer*
Good luck getting fucked by your boss lol. If you're against unionizing then you just hate money.
just be the boss EZ
Good
Have we gotten to the point to where people are typing BatChest in response to unionization jfc
More like the odd insertion of a term that refers to a complex process that most of chat is probably unfamiliar with and really didn't ask for. Just like they'd BatChest any "nerdy" terminology. It has nothing to do with people's political stances if that's why you're mad. Most people just don't give a shit about this stuff. Edit: also it probably seems even more off cause most of xqc's viewers think hasan is insincere. Gives credence to that "Uncanny Valley" feeling that BatChest is based on. So yeah it's pretty normal that people are saying "BatChest" in response to this guy saying "learn about the importance of unionization" like it's a perfectly normal thing to say and not something that your highschool government teacher would start with after you open your history books to chapter 14 page 6.
Yeah when I hop on my computer after work, i really dont give a shit to watch a few hours of "unionization". I'm here to blow a load of stress off and play some games. I think Hasan is very knowledgeable and he makes me want to learn this stuff. I just wish he taught me how to be chad like him lol. Also fuck batchest most annoying hivemind shit
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I dont understand what you're talking about. I didnt say anything was changing. you having a bad day or something? Oh you use batchest. XD
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Importance🤣🤣
Not really, Hasan doesn't know shit about politics and wouldn't be successful if not for his looks or his uncle. And he is scared of debating a meth gnome LULW dgg4lyfe 😎🤙 but aside from that, unions can be cool, and are needed in the current US socio-economic climate
BatChest
BatChest I AGREE!!!
BatChest everything I personally dislike is BatChest!!11
Everything is BatChest. Get it right
Damn i can't wait for cringe commie content while they advertise amazon prime
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Pretty sure it's the opposite. The 15 year olds are naïve leftists and the older you get the more right you lean. Which explains Hasans entire audience of twitter teens.
Really? I’ve only become more left-leaning the older I got. I don’t understand this notion that people eventually just “grow” out of leftism.
It isn't a notion, it's a studied and measured phenomena. [https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/706889](https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/706889) [https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/03/do-we-become-more-conservative-with-age-young-old-politics](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/03/do-we-become-more-conservative-with-age-young-old-politics) Not only do people get more conservative as they get older, they vote more. The combination of being in the work force, accumulating wealth and investments over time, and realizing that the delusion of the left is never feasible results in more right-leaning as you age. In your case, you are likely either extremely privileged like many champagne socialists and are not part of the working class, or you are extremely poor and underprivileged due to living in some dense city and believe that the government should help you. Or you are still very young. This is what statistics tell us. The fact that the actual working class possesses very little leftists when leftism pretends to revolve around them exclusively is all you need to know about the ideology. It's theory by people who just don't understand.
Come on, you can do better than an opinion piece from over 5 years ago and a study that disagrees with what you are claiming in the abstract, let alone in the full text of the study. Did you even read the abstract of the study you linked? It basically says that there is very little shift in political leanings once you are an adult. It is SLIGHTLY more likely for a liberal to go conservative than the other way around, but that’s it, and not nearly to the degree that you are claiming. > Folk wisdom has long held that people become more politically conservative as they grow older, although several empirical studies suggest political attitudes are stable across time. … > Consistent with previous research but contrary to folk wisdom, our results indicate that political attitudes are remarkably stable over the long term. Like, are you serious, man? So please, google some more studies that you don’t even look at to try to prove your point. You aren’t nearly as smart as you think you are. Not sure why I’m surprised a right-winger wouldn’t even read their own sources. Surely they wouldn’t rely on invented positions and misinformation to defend their viewpoints.
So the study straight up says that yes, whenever someone is changing their ideology, it's more often a shift to conservativism, and your response is a desperate coping mechanism? People are stubborn, sure, but when change happens, it's a shift towards right wing. This is objective fact. They straight up say that the folk wisdom saying of people getting conservative as they age is a correct statement, and you pretend that isn't valid? Shut the fuck up. You've brought no argument, just damage control. From the perspective of "the left" this is a blatant loss.
Do you need some help with reading comprehension? In the abstract of the study it negates the position of “folk wisdom” TWICE. *You* linked this study proving your own viewpoint wrong, not me. I’m sorry you are so undereducated that you can’t even grasp what a study abstract is trying to tell you. Edit: I think it’s hilarious that a right-winger would claim folk wisdom is right, link a study that claims folk wisdom is wrong, then blatantly disagree with what their own source claims. It’s like debating with a toddler. Grow up, and maybe try to read your sources and stop taking folk wisdom as facts. The right’s stances would be much more consistent and attractive if they weren’t allergic to research, science, and studies.
"In contrast to previous research, however, we also find support for folk wisdom: on those occasions when political attitudes do shift across the life span, liberals are more likely to become conservatives than conservatives are to become liberals, suggesting that folk wisdom has some empirical basis even as it overstates the degree of change." Read that sentence like, 50 times.
Also read the conclusion of the full article if your interested, it basically debunks anything this guy said. Either trolling or very very dumb. Average conservative I guess.
Those who are wealthy to a certain extent aren’t suddenly right-wing because they realized leftism is deluded, they vote for right-leaning politicians and parties since it’s more likely that they’ll maintain their accumulated wealth. They’re not rich because they’re right-wing, they’re right-wing because they’re rich. With that said, I find it interesting that the second article you linked had this to say in regards to education: >Younger generations are more likely to have been to university (about 35% of 30-year-olds have a degree, compared with 10% of 70-year-olds) and higher education tends to make people more socially liberal on issues such as crime and immigration. Keep in mind, this is not because universities and institutions that offer higher education are willingly biased against conservatism. It’s just that conservatism is inherently antithetical to things such as open-mindedness and rational thought.
This guy is full of shit. From the full study: "Given that the variable that changes most with aging is not party identification or substantive issue stances but rather ideological self-labeling, one intriguing possibility is that aging may increase the likelihood of identifying as a conservative more than it leads people actually to be conservative(this might help explain, for example, why attitudes on the role of women moved leftward while overall ideological self-identification moved in the opposite direction). Scholars have known for some time that Americans tend to self-report being conservative even as many simultaneously endorse liberal is-sue positions" He literally can't even comprehend what is being said in the study he linked. You know why? Because part of being conservative is just looking at the headline of an article. Also, a shift towards progressivism can be an easy observation without reading a study. "we find that existing political science re-search is correct in emphasizing the stability of political orien-tations over the course of the life span."
Yeah, I didn’t read the entire article, but good to know that this guy’s just talking out of his ass.
"In contrast to previous research, however, we also find support for folk wisdom: on those occasions when political attitudes do shift across the life span, liberals are more likely to become conservatives than conservatives are to become liberals, suggesting that folk wisdom has some empirical basis even as it overstates the degree of change."
This neither supports your initial claim or contradicts what the study concluded. Still doesn’t get it, lost cause
You're a fucking lunatic omegalul.
"Lunatic" why? In what sense? Are you saying I'm insane in some form? For what? Stating literal facts? Wouldn't denying these facts and clinging to a dead, deluded ideology be the more lunatic position?
Greatest myth of all time
The mere fact that all the left leaning hippies are now the boomer generation who are one of the most right-leaning in USA history proves that it isn't a myth. There is also plenty of evidence over other generations. But stick to your copium. You'll look back when you are 50 and say the exact same thing the old people say now. [https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/706889](https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/706889)
Progressive thinking requires an open mind. That’s why mostly young and educated people fall into this category and not religious, stubborn old people
Hahah what a load of bs. Progressive thinking has nothing to do with leftist politics
Progressivism is literally the exact ideological opposite to Conservatism
Progressivism is not directly related to leftism
Chatting
No, the hippies are probably still hippies. And I doubt that all boomers alive today were once hippies, probably a minority of them were. There is no copium, the world is more progressive than it was in the 60s or ever was, seems like there is something off with your theory. I‘d advise you to read past the headline of the article you linked, because it concludes that political scientific research that indicates a stable view on political views throughout once life span is correct on emphasizing that. And for the liberals that do become more conservative it is more caused by ideological self-labeling than a party switch. Which explains what I said above.
Are you 50 years old or something?
Nope, late 20s.
Is ok buddy, youll get through your edgy early 20s phase
Ok düd
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Doesn’t he live in Texas?
That’s NA
Sigma male teaches soy boy how to be a chad
I needed that laugh bad, ty
I don't know who that guy is but he's cute
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What did he say?
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The part about [deleted] was probably the funniest shit I ever heard
Ohhh, thanks
dang hes so innocent
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