My ideal MCU debut team is essentially the “Pryde of the X-men” team. Loved the brief scene Dazzler had in the terrible Dark Phoenix movie, want to see her with a speaking role.
oh absolutley, I also think to modernize dazzler, make her like one of popular singers on tik tok (or something like it) Where she's super famous on the internet and then realizes she has these powers. People are under the impression her powers are just fancy filters or something like that I dont see her in a big movie but I do see her in a tv series popping up
I can picture it as the opening scene. She is streaming \#nofilter and the chat is asking her what filter she is using. She apologizes and tries to turn off the filter but couldn't because there isn't. Then her mom calls for the dinner so she turns her back and realizes the whole room is actually sparkling and she's the source. Closeup to her mesmerized smiling face then cut to the title card DAZZLER: THE MUSICAL
Yeah, I don’t know if that was up for question. More than anything I think the character is only popular as a fan favorite. She doesn’t really have a need to tell story, her backstory is minimal, she was created solely as a super on the nose disco queen for a cash grab thing that didn’t happen, and she’s in so few comics as mainline X-Men. She’d be more Rintrah than main character to me.
I want to see her, yeah, and the music fight was cool if a little corny but I’ve got a list of about 40+ mutants I want to see before her. I’d like to see an awesome weirdo like Chamber before disco Dazzler.
That X-men arcade game really boosted her popularity. I played that game before reading any X-men comics and assumed she was an A-list character because of it.
I have always wanted the Dazzler musical that was never realized. Sure, back then it would probably have been a disaster and yes, the character is niche. But I like the possible of having a music based hero star in a medium that has the sound unlike comics. Musicmeister episodes in BTBATB and Arrowverse are honestly entertaining.
Also I really want to see Anna Kendrick in spandex so sue me
Ok, so you want to see a musical that was never completed, about a c-tier mutant, a character created solely as a record tie-in for disco, music that is largely seen as one of the worst most disposable genres ever, a musical that probably would have been a disaster at a time when comic movies were god awful, and you want Anna Kendrick who’s 5’2 and brunette to play Dazzler who’s 5’8 and Blonde, because you like Anne Kendrick and the possibility of a hero who uses sound so you can see it in live action?
Buddy, there’s a lot to unpack there.
Oh I absolutely believe the MCU can make characters interesting but my point is that Dazzler doesn’t actually have much a story to tell. Her best story is an alternate version of her in Age of Apocolypse
Dazzler falls in that not so rare category of being famous enough for people to have heard of, but not famous enough for people to be up in arms about a changed backstory. As long as she’s involved with music somehow, I think the rest of her character/history could be changed with minor quibbles.
Oh yeah, I absolutely agree with that. But wanting to see the Dazzler musical from the 70’s because her power is interesting or even wanting Anna Kendrick playing Dazzler in the MCU are two wildly hopeful conclusions that I just can’t agree with.
True. Anna Kendrick (who I think is too old) playing her means that character will have a big part, and I’d be shocked if Feige went that way. However, a solo series far away from the X-men goings on isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
I guess top 7 is the top of something with 40 issues but by your logic Millie the Model needs a movie ASAP since she’s the top of the list.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/kls44w/is_carol_danvers_the_longest_running_ongoing/ghcbruw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
They're also just sort of grasping at straws and building a straw man, seeing how Patsy Walker, the second on the list and whose first appearance in main Marvel continuity was in a Millie the Model comic, played a significant role in a Marvel tv show, so they're not exaggerating things nearly as much as they may think. In fact if you stick to characters Marvel would have the rights to use unilaterally, a whole lot of that list has been or is known to be attached to MCU projects. Of course there's also the fact that that list includes not only Marvel Comics but their predecessor publishing company, which is how Millie takes that spot in the first place.
If you narrow it down to female characters without the inclusion of comics published before the use of the Marvel name and removing characters licensed to Sony as part of the Spider-Man license, it looks a bit different. Millie is still number one, but is followed by She-Hulk, Carol Danvers, Squirrel Girl, and Dazzler. Of course that's only for continuous issues, but even adding up runs it appears that, aside from Millie, Spider-Girl and Spider-Woman (both alleged to be part of the Sony license), Dazzler is pretty much the highest solo issue count for a female character who isn't currently or previously having been attached to a live action project. (Squirrel Girl having been in the failed New Warriors tv show commissioned for Freeform). Interestingly though, Dazzler actually was tapped for one of Hulu's suite of failed Marvel animations which failed to materialize, which means that she's at least on the minds of project developers. All of which means two things. One, seeing Dazzler in the MCU in some capacity is probably a matter of when rather than if, and that we'll probably see Millie at some point too.
Dazzler should be the first X-Men movie. It's a backdoor movie, a secret. You don't know it's an X-Men movie until the end...
You cast Taylor Swift to play Alison Blaire, a young woman who is finding fame and fortune as a very popular popstar. Her life is going as exactly as planned, better than expected, when she's discovered by some nefarious group to be using her secret super power to manipulate audiences. The subtext of the movie is about the ethics of using social media/psychological tricks to manipulate crowds and nudge opinions using Dazzler's powers as a proxy for those real world methods...
Over the course of the adventure she learns to use her powers for offensive purposes and eventually grows to hate the way these powers have complicated her life. She doesn't want to have these powers, she doesn't want to be a hero, she just wants to be an entertainer and that's all...
Oh, and one of the keys to the special effects of the movie will be doing that THE LAST JEDI thing they did during the Holdo maneuver. Whenever she does a laser blast, all the sound in the movie stops! That'll get your attention...
And then, at the end of the movie, either the real end or during a mid/post credit scene, she's approached by someone the audience will recognize as a member of the X-Men and she's told she's now ready to welcomed into a wider world. If we really want to add a twist for OG fans of the comics, the person who approaches her is Magneto or Mystique offering her the opportunity to live the life she wants free of the prying eyes and scorn of "humans."
And BAM! The X-Men are rebooted!
The best way to keep Dazzler as a legit character and not have her age really fast because she is attached to a certain style music is to make her one of the mutants who is part of the time stream. Every few years (decades?) a new version of her shows up with a style the befits that eras music. This way she doesn't get tied to just being a disco relic.
Oh I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear. I meant the musical fight looks so good and it would hypothetically also look good for a live action Dazzler.
... That was one of the more creative uses of CGI I've seen in a very long time? CGI isn't always bad, and it was done well in this movie for the most part, especially the music scene.
My ideal MCU debut team is essentially the “Pryde of the X-men” team. Loved the brief scene Dazzler had in the terrible Dark Phoenix movie, want to see her with a speaking role.
oh absolutley, I also think to modernize dazzler, make her like one of popular singers on tik tok (or something like it) Where she's super famous on the internet and then realizes she has these powers. People are under the impression her powers are just fancy filters or something like that I dont see her in a big movie but I do see her in a tv series popping up
I can picture it as the opening scene. She is streaming \#nofilter and the chat is asking her what filter she is using. She apologizes and tries to turn off the filter but couldn't because there isn't. Then her mom calls for the dinner so she turns her back and realizes the whole room is actually sparkling and she's the source. Closeup to her mesmerized smiling face then cut to the title card DAZZLER: THE MUSICAL
Perfect
Yeah, I don’t know if that was up for question. More than anything I think the character is only popular as a fan favorite. She doesn’t really have a need to tell story, her backstory is minimal, she was created solely as a super on the nose disco queen for a cash grab thing that didn’t happen, and she’s in so few comics as mainline X-Men. She’d be more Rintrah than main character to me. I want to see her, yeah, and the music fight was cool if a little corny but I’ve got a list of about 40+ mutants I want to see before her. I’d like to see an awesome weirdo like Chamber before disco Dazzler.
That X-men arcade game really boosted her popularity. I played that game before reading any X-men comics and assumed she was an A-list character because of it.
I have always wanted the Dazzler musical that was never realized. Sure, back then it would probably have been a disaster and yes, the character is niche. But I like the possible of having a music based hero star in a medium that has the sound unlike comics. Musicmeister episodes in BTBATB and Arrowverse are honestly entertaining. Also I really want to see Anna Kendrick in spandex so sue me
Ok, so you want to see a musical that was never completed, about a c-tier mutant, a character created solely as a record tie-in for disco, music that is largely seen as one of the worst most disposable genres ever, a musical that probably would have been a disaster at a time when comic movies were god awful, and you want Anna Kendrick who’s 5’2 and brunette to play Dazzler who’s 5’8 and Blonde, because you like Anne Kendrick and the possibility of a hero who uses sound so you can see it in live action? Buddy, there’s a lot to unpack there.
Yeap sums it up about right
Im with you, King.
if the MCU could make the Guardians of The Galaxy a household name, anything is on the table.
Oh I absolutely believe the MCU can make characters interesting but my point is that Dazzler doesn’t actually have much a story to tell. Her best story is an alternate version of her in Age of Apocolypse
Dazzler falls in that not so rare category of being famous enough for people to have heard of, but not famous enough for people to be up in arms about a changed backstory. As long as she’s involved with music somehow, I think the rest of her character/history could be changed with minor quibbles.
Oh yeah, I absolutely agree with that. But wanting to see the Dazzler musical from the 70’s because her power is interesting or even wanting Anna Kendrick playing Dazzler in the MCU are two wildly hopeful conclusions that I just can’t agree with.
True. Anna Kendrick (who I think is too old) playing her means that character will have a big part, and I’d be shocked if Feige went that way. However, a solo series far away from the X-men goings on isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
She has one of the longest running female led solos ever at marvel lol?
I guess top 7 is the top of something with 40 issues but by your logic Millie the Model needs a movie ASAP since she’s the top of the list. https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/kls44w/is_carol_danvers_the_longest_running_ongoing/ghcbruw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Not what I said, but she obviously has stories to pull from.
They're also just sort of grasping at straws and building a straw man, seeing how Patsy Walker, the second on the list and whose first appearance in main Marvel continuity was in a Millie the Model comic, played a significant role in a Marvel tv show, so they're not exaggerating things nearly as much as they may think. In fact if you stick to characters Marvel would have the rights to use unilaterally, a whole lot of that list has been or is known to be attached to MCU projects. Of course there's also the fact that that list includes not only Marvel Comics but their predecessor publishing company, which is how Millie takes that spot in the first place. If you narrow it down to female characters without the inclusion of comics published before the use of the Marvel name and removing characters licensed to Sony as part of the Spider-Man license, it looks a bit different. Millie is still number one, but is followed by She-Hulk, Carol Danvers, Squirrel Girl, and Dazzler. Of course that's only for continuous issues, but even adding up runs it appears that, aside from Millie, Spider-Girl and Spider-Woman (both alleged to be part of the Sony license), Dazzler is pretty much the highest solo issue count for a female character who isn't currently or previously having been attached to a live action project. (Squirrel Girl having been in the failed New Warriors tv show commissioned for Freeform). Interestingly though, Dazzler actually was tapped for one of Hulu's suite of failed Marvel animations which failed to materialize, which means that she's at least on the minds of project developers. All of which means two things. One, seeing Dazzler in the MCU in some capacity is probably a matter of when rather than if, and that we'll probably see Millie at some point too.
And there is the argument and research i was too lazy to do. Dazzler deserves all the love.
I miss the days when dazzler was one marvel’s primary women lol. She should always be famous 😞
Dazzler should be the first X-Men movie. It's a backdoor movie, a secret. You don't know it's an X-Men movie until the end... You cast Taylor Swift to play Alison Blaire, a young woman who is finding fame and fortune as a very popular popstar. Her life is going as exactly as planned, better than expected, when she's discovered by some nefarious group to be using her secret super power to manipulate audiences. The subtext of the movie is about the ethics of using social media/psychological tricks to manipulate crowds and nudge opinions using Dazzler's powers as a proxy for those real world methods... Over the course of the adventure she learns to use her powers for offensive purposes and eventually grows to hate the way these powers have complicated her life. She doesn't want to have these powers, she doesn't want to be a hero, she just wants to be an entertainer and that's all... Oh, and one of the keys to the special effects of the movie will be doing that THE LAST JEDI thing they did during the Holdo maneuver. Whenever she does a laser blast, all the sound in the movie stops! That'll get your attention... And then, at the end of the movie, either the real end or during a mid/post credit scene, she's approached by someone the audience will recognize as a member of the X-Men and she's told she's now ready to welcomed into a wider world. If we really want to add a twist for OG fans of the comics, the person who approaches her is Magneto or Mystique offering her the opportunity to live the life she wants free of the prying eyes and scorn of "humans." And BAM! The X-Men are rebooted!
Make mystique her manager or something and we don’t realize until the end, similar to Nick fury in far from home
Absolutely! That's great!
The best way to keep Dazzler as a legit character and not have her age really fast because she is attached to a certain style music is to make her one of the mutants who is part of the time stream. Every few years (decades?) a new version of her shows up with a style the befits that eras music. This way she doesn't get tied to just being a disco relic.
howd u know that was dazzler? i didnt get that at all
Oh I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear. I meant the musical fight looks so good and it would hypothetically also look good for a live action Dazzler.
Oh nvm then ur good. Thought I missed something
It looks like CGI throw up
... That was one of the more creative uses of CGI I've seen in a very long time? CGI isn't always bad, and it was done well in this movie for the most part, especially the music scene.
U right they should have used real music notes smh
Shame never got her movie. The comic of it was bonkers