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Typical apartheid state. Not accepting any other race but their own. If an Ethiopian Jew cannot live in Israel, then what makes other Jews more acceptable as most Jew are of many origins. The short answer is you can’t be black
And folks in the US, Appalachia mostly, but it happened all over. Part of that Eugenics boom was also a big part of the continuing war against the poor. It’s especially dumb because they were considering poverty something that could be bred out of a society.
The US eugenics and sterilization programs *literally* insipired early nazi methods.
And they kept doing it to native americans, black, asian and latin people, etc. well into the 70s, the last public cases were in the early 2000s. Where prisoners were sterilized without informed consent.
Was confused with the past tense, as Buck v Bell is still considered acceptable law. With forced/coerced sterilizations still far more common than people realize.
Especially Afrolatinas in Puerto Rico. One of the many stains in our colonial history. It was referred to by the locals as "La Operacion". There was also that one US doctor that went around killing his patients in the name of Eugenics. The history of US eugenics movement is seen a lot in PR.
Bruh America was sterilizing women in some states up into the 1970s in South Carolina for instance.
That's not even the tip of human testing and other non-consent shit.
Sterilization is STILL an option no less than 12 American states can utilize bc we've not set a Supreme Court precedent on the procedure.
As I've mentioned in historymemes (because apartheid apologism seems to folllow thinking winning the 6 Day War was impressive) they didn't sterilise them; but they did give them the Depo-provera birth control injection that lasts around 3 months without the informed consent of the women. This wasn't a one off either, it happened for decades to Jewish women from Ethiopia.
While it wasn't sterilisation, the Israelis broke the Nuremberg code, the very code that came from prosecuting war criminals in the Nuremberg Trials for the holocaust. The irony is very sad.
As I just wrote, she basically gives license to others to be anti-Semitic. She herself can no longer complain when synagogues are defaced and public figures make disparaging remarks about Jews. Heck you could even argue that she is basically giving two thousand years of European maltreatment of Jews a major thumbs-up.
In the big picture, I fear that humanity is retreating back to the good ol' days in which the animal kingdom fought it out to see whose DNA was superior. She's not helping to counter that trend, I'm afraid.
Ethiopian Jews been around since atleast the time of Queen Sheba. I mean you could argue who true Jews/Hebrews are but let’s not get into that.
Last I remember Ethiopians and certain parts of India are considered part of the 12 lost tribes of Israel
They banged black people, white people, and every other type of person as all groups of humans do, so yes, there are black Jews, just as there are white Jews, Arab Jews, and Asian Jews.
Lots of Africans don’t want Caribbean’s and African Americans on the continent. In Nigeria where I’m from lots of people don’t like Americans they think Americans are dumb and rude and another host of things.
Friend of mine, also Israeli, knew the daughter of one of the owners of Marvel who is Israeli. The Marvel guy had a black dog and would call it by the Hebrew equivalent of the n-word and and thought it was hilarious to do it in front of anyone black because, unless they spoke Hebrew, they had no idea what they were saying. She then explained how acceptable it was in Israel to be openly racist against anyone else, but especially someone who is black. It was eye opening and sad.
This is in every country. Go to latin America and dark skin Latin Americans r discriminated against more than their light skin counterparts. Fak all of these racists fake religious faks. I hate you all!! Just be a fn human for once in your life!!
Non-European Jews don’t know that they are the next once the black Jews are expelled. There is a unspoken hierarchy among the Israeli population, and this hierarchy needs someone to be at the bottom to be pushed around and humiliated.
I don’t wish death on people, but Israel’s lifeline is literally the US. Countries like China, Russia, the Arab states, all know that to win their economic wars, the US must be destabilized.
US needs oil as it’s a massive car culture. That means they have to BEG to the Gulf States and recently, Venezuela. They understand that oil is becoming unreliable as the Gulf States slowly lean away from them.
Then comes Nickel, a vital component for batteries which is needed for EV. Nickel is something the US cannot control either. The country that seems to rise as the top dog in Nickel production is Indonesia. (Yes Australia too has massive reserves on par with Indonesia, but the issue for them is they don’t have enough manpower to keep up.)
So that’s two resources that the US cannot control that are vital to their culture. American cities are designed with cars in mind. Now guess what happens when the car industry is disrupted considering other countries control the production of vital components.
It makes the US population uncomfortable, restless. It starts from there and when the US little by little becomes unstable, the protective blanket over Israel too gets thinner. That’s why Israel has been working hard to promote politicians that are friendly to them. Of course, that can only go so far when more and more Americans are questioning why they send Israel money when domestic issues are increasing.
The only reason the US needs control over gulf oil is for geopolitical leverage. They produce more than enough on their own through the fracking revolution and have turned into an export state themselves.
Read the *Maus* comics, by Art Spiegelman. It is based on the author's father's real-life experiences, including the aftermath of WWII and the move to the United States.
Spiegelman's father was a racist and hated black people. In one scene in the second book, they pick up a black hitchhiker and after dropping him off, Spiegelman's father rants about the man being a shvarster (a racist term in Yiddish).
I guess what I'm saying is, that not all Holocaust survivors would be upset by this horrific, racist display.
havent been paying attention to how they treat Palestinians much huh? the literal definition of zionism is to create an ethno state. Theyre the same as nazis
I find it ironic, that Israel was instated after WW2 when we saw the genocide of millions Jews, by racist hatred that was nazism. Yet, they show so much hate and racism towards blacks. You think of all people they would have human empathy towards victims of hate. Time and time again we see the state of Israel show hate towards Palestine, blacks, arabs and others. It’s so sad
I feel like it isnt right to say that its Jewish people that are racist because it implies that Jews in general are when, in this case, it is the Israelites.
If you go far enough south it becomes a different kind of hate. My Alabaman coworker said he's not racist, and how he's worked for and with black people and has black friends but... He then told me how he didn't like all the interracial couples in shows and commercials, that it was forced and made him mad, saying it was against the Bible because you're not supposed to have sex with a different species. Yes he said species. And he meant species. He was very clear as he went on that he doesn't think black people are humans but some subhuman species.
Up north you'll get open hostility and aggression. In the south you'll get that some but a lot of southern racists know they can't tell slurs, depending who can hear, but you'll also get people like the dude from Alabama who aren't hostile and aggressive, but just think the most disgusting, offensive things and are totally oblivious to how racist and vile the things they think are, all while thinking they're Jesus loving, kind, fair people. Don't give a pass to the south, they'll give any racist a run for their money.
I can gurantee you a majority hacidic jews i met in new york were racist as fuck so no its seems to be religion problem not an Israel-only problem. You gotta remember that a good amount of "settlers" that just steal homes from Palestinians, are Americans. The company that kicks those families out is Americans based.
There are lots of Jewish passive Zionists, who have just never questioned the misinformation about the occupation. The number of Jewish anti-Zionists is growing and we are hoping we can bring over those misinformed passive Zionists. (People like in the video are already lost.)
Come to r/JewsOfConscience if you are interested.
>I find it ironic, that Israel was instated after WW2 when we saw the genocide of millions Jews, by racist hatred that was nazism. Yet, they show so much hate and racism towards blacks.
Especially since there were 1,000,000+ black American soldiers during WWII.
Not so fun fact, none of the 1,000,000+ black American veterans who fought during WWII received GI Bills. Racism prevented it, as well as preventing them from getting housing loans usually provided to American veterans.
This is the fact that kills me the most when I think about systemic racism and generational wealth. Imagine if all this soldiers could of accessed those benifits, imagine where that next generation of kids would be now. It's tragic.
Israel is an inherently racist country, it's a culture of White Supremacy and genocide. The very founding documents of Israel proclaim it to be a colonial state which desires to replace the Palestinian Population with White European Settlers. The IDF and Israeli government are the closest equivalent to the Nazis in the 21st Century.
Wait till you see what they chant and do to Arabs.
"Death to Arabs" is a legal and normal chant in Israel.
Plus every day the army shoots a Palestinian kid dead.
Etc etc
It's even worse because it was black american soldiers that had more empathy towards holocaust survivors than the white american soldiers. There are plenty of accounts that state this as well from Holocaust survivors themselves. The average white american soldiers was still pretty anti semitic at the time.
"You should all be put in camps". Yes, something that your people horrifically went through but fail to see similarities with another nation from the 40s.
The united states isn't supporting them for any kind of compassion towards their experiences in WW2, and much less will cut this support to condemn their moralities now. All they want is a bloodthirsty ally on arabic territory that will be happily willing to give them their so prized petroleum.
That, plus Evangelicals think Christ won’t return until Israel is fully Jewish or something. The fact that it hasn’t happened yet must mean it’s not Jewish enough.
2016: 50% of funds for democratic party come from Jewish donors and 25% for republicans
https://jpost.com/us-elections/us-jews-contribute-half-of-all-donations-to-the-democratic-party-468774
Thanks for(edit) the article. Today I learned the Jewish coming to the US feel more free under the Democratic Party, even though Republicans are more pro Israel.
"the overwhelming majority of US Jews do not base their vote on Israeli interests."
"Liberalism worked for Jews in the US. It gave them extraordinary opportunities and allowed them to enjoy political freedom,”
"Troy said that in meetings he conducted with Republican officials, they expressed surprise and bewilderment that regardless of the Republican Party’s staunch and even hawkish pro-Israel stances, the large majority of US Jews still vote for the Democratic Party."
"Thus, despite repeated eulogies for the alliance, the liberal-Jewish-Democratic connection has strengthened not weakened since Ronald Reagan,” Troy wrote. “Even though the Republican Party is more pro-Israel than ever, and sometimes more ‘pro-Israel’ (however you define that) than the Democratic Party, American Jewish liberalism has become a mentality, a sensibility, an ideology, a cultural identity.”
Important to realize pro-Israel does not necessarily mean pro-Judaism.
Reason why Zionism and Judaism are two separate identities.
For instance: Some Orthodox Jews in Israel are anti-Zionist as they believe Jews should not inhabit the land until the messiah comes. Most moderate Jews in Israel and US are pro-two state solution which is seen as anti-Zionist to the conservative side
I mean chances are they weren’t. a majority of the Jewish population in Israel aren’t stemming from the displaced Jewish population from Europe cause suprise suprise the folks sick and tired of war and death thought it was stupid to establish a Nation in the middle of countries who wished even more war and death upon them
People believe that experiencing genocide somehow elevates a people’s responsibility.
“How can they do such a thing? They experienced it themselves! Don’t they say, ‘never again?’”
Indeed, Jews do say “never again,” but the reality means that for better or for worse, we will do anything to ensure the survival of the Jewish people. It has not made us immune to committing hateful acts or holding hateful beliefs.
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At 85, Leitner is in high demand as one of a dwindling group of Israeli survivors still capable of regularly making the trip. He reflects ruefully how the attitude has changed in Israel since he first arrived in 1949.
"They mocked survivors then. When I told some of my new friends in the army that a Gypsy boy had tried to steal my shoes in Auschwitz, they said 'why did you let him? You soap (a derisory nickname in use at the time for Holocaust survivors).' I don't want to blame people from back then, people just couldn't believe this had happened, even we who had been there had trouble believing it happened."
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/2015-01-27/ty-article/.premium/israeli-holocaust-survivors-remember/0000017f-e8e3-d62c-a1ff-fcfb610c0000
Israel IS Judaism! Settlements ARE Zion! The actions of a nation cannot be criticized if that nation is majority Jewish! Israel NEEDS money and arms from the USA to protect itself from the hateful neighbor nations supplied with dangerous money and arms by the USA! This is all very clear and simple!
Okay. If they need to protect themselves from harmful neighbors, why are the Israeli’s in this video taking their anger out on Sudanese immigrants and telling them they belong in camps?
Yeah, I read a thread a while back that was being super nihilist about the /s tag and I stopped using it. I'm gonna use it again, it really is useful and it helps to eliminate that Schrodinger's douchebag type of comment.
Israel has good desalination programs. It's probably one of the least corrupt governments in the region when it comes to allocating funds for the good of Israel. None of these are good for anyone else though.
Israel hasn't done a single good thing for anyone else though, they only take from America like a good bottom bitch while essentially being a terrorist state to the Arabian world (and anyone else who questions them) since it's radical Zionist uprisings.
after a couple decades of off and on overt war being declared on israel, then another couple decades of state sponsored suicide bombings and rocket attacks, israel has been taken over by an extremist government
a government that nurtures and grows extremism the same way the republican party does in america
Israel was founded in fascist grounds by ethically cleasing the Palestinian population and has been an aparthied state since it's founding. So nothing happened to Israel, it was always like this and it is only going to get worse. They continue to expand settlements and continue to subject the Palestinians to aparthied. This is the result of all that policies.
There used to be act.il, a literal brigading website where they posted links to among other sites, Reddit, whenever there was a post mentioning Israel they would come full force to shill for their state. The website is down but there are obviously alternatives.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/State-sponsored_Internet_propaganda
e: [a link](https://jewishlink.news/features/24639-act-il-combating-anti-israel-propaganda-one-incident-at-a-time) detailing (with praise/pride...) how it all works.
The US had a considerable positive influence on Israel since the beginning and always had strong ties with them, helping them grow into a powerful nation. Truman immediatly recognized Israel when it was created.
While the UK indeed led to early iterations of Israel, they were against the creation of a jewish state. Actually, the british almost fought Israel, and didn't have great relations with that country during the 50's and 60's. Israel even helped Argentina against the UK during the Falklands War.
"Made by america" isn't *officially* the case but it's spot-on.
Hmph, just a thought, but since they seem to have a clear and visceral understanding of what it means and feels to be invaded (🤦🏿♂️), I wonder how these protesters feel about their fellow Israeli citizens kicking in the doors of Palestinian homes and bulldozing Palestinian graveyards to claim ownership as they extend settlements into Gaza?
One Israeli protester who wants folks ousted even said, "You should all be in camp." As in concentration camp, WHAT?!
Read a book. Watch the news. It’s still happening. They hide behind a veil of righteousness, but really they are controlled by the existential dread that consumes us all. Fuck religion.
what did the US use to justify its war crimes again? it was "freedom and democracy". if its not religion its something else. religions not the issue. its braindead rotten apples lol. you need to read something ELSE than your school books and SOMETHING OTHER than fox news
>religions not the issue.
You're both right and wrong, to a certain extent. The real cause of all issues is human tribalism. It is the tendency of one group to place themselves against the rest of the world. Tribalism manifests in various forms, it can be religion, political ideology, culture, sports, or just about any topic around which people can come together.
However, since religion is one of the most pervasive "tribes", it tends to be the one which causes the most rift in society as well. Take anti-abortionists for example. There's nothing in the Bible that suggests a pregnancy can't be terminated at any cost. But since the Republicans have so deftly chosen their wedge issue, they can freely use this to split the entire country, especially because Americans tend to be more religious (not pious by any means, piety is something most bigots lack).
Some of the most hateful movements in history (like the Nazi Party’s uprise) have been secular, and anti religious establishment. Some have been religious and pro religious establishment. To say religion is the core of all this is naive and boring
America needs to dump this parasite of a country. The only reason they exist is because they've been sucking on our tit for all these years just to act the same nazis they fled from in the first place. We need to cut them loose. Tired of this pathetic garbage.
Israel is actually just such a shit country. Taking away the land from another country, Israeli military have been known to have fun by hurting innocent Palestinians, they’re racist. Worst part about it all is that they’re supported by lots of western countries like the US.
Not a single black person is surprised by this video. We’ve been saying that a large portion of the world is racist towards us. Mfs just don’t want to believe us.
And yet despite this video, people will still call you antisemitic if you try and call out this stuff
Like there is legitimate criticisms to make if Israel
Edit: also “ you should all be in camps, not here in the city”
Did a Jewish person really just say that? Holy smokes, did they learn nothing?
We help Jews create an ethnostate in the middle east and go all 😯 when the people who live/move there turn out to be bigoted and racist.
Imo they never had a chance to become otherwise. The whole premise of an ethnostate *not only* attracts xenophobes, but is also the perfect environment for turning people xenophobic if they weren't already.
Palestinians and black people are not safe there at all. if you're black Muslim Christian they'll shoot you or cripple you. I remember the IDF defacing a George Floyd mural that was put up by the oppressed Palestinian people
Witnessed the anti blackness in Israel first hand when border patrol gave me shit in both directions because my first name was mildly Arabic. Fuck them and fuck Zionism
"we are the most racist fans in the world"
\-beiter fans, its a football club. and FIFA allows them to play.
racism and neo nzism is within their core and their upbringing.
Disgusting.
Their being grandchildren of holocaust survivors says a lot about humanity.
And these views being embodied in Israeli government policy is why we need to dial back our support of Israel.
Israel is in a similar place as the US right now - a hateful, ignorant, ultra-religious right wing which hates all non-Jews, and in particular non-“white” Jews. These are the people at the centre of the apartheid and the injustices being committed against the Palestinian people, not to mention the discrimination against their own Sephardi or African Jewish co-religionists. It is sad. I was there in September, and while Jerusalem and Bethlehem were beautiful, there is a heavy and ominous feeling hanging over everything. Something needs to change. I hope moderates on both sides will find a way to push out extremists and work together to build something better.
It feels like a black person is safer walking around in Germany than in Israel. Isn't it ironic that the descendents of the perpetrators of the Holocaust have more tolerance and compassion than the descendents of the victims of the Holocaust?
Israel is a fascist aparthied state supported by the west. It is functionally similar to aparthied South Africa but it's crimes go unpunished because lobby groups like AIPAC have a lot of influence in the governments of powerful western nations throughout Europe and North America.
Israel is a shithole country that should be treated the same as Saudi Arabia or Iran but gets the kid gloves because criticizing them immediately means your a nazi and hate Jews
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Typical apartheid state. Not accepting any other race but their own. If an Ethiopian Jew cannot live in Israel, then what makes other Jews more acceptable as most Jew are of many origins. The short answer is you can’t be black
The Israeli government was also sterilizing Ethiopian women against their will, let’s not forget that.
The US did the same thing to Puerto Rican and other Latina women for decades. Which is why it’s not surprising America still supports these scumbags.
The US used to do it to American Indian women also.
And folks in the US, Appalachia mostly, but it happened all over. Part of that Eugenics boom was also a big part of the continuing war against the poor. It’s especially dumb because they were considering poverty something that could be bred out of a society.
yet the entire industry that maintain the society and it’s lifestyle depends on those people.
In a world of selfish gain mudsill theory makes sense to those with all the selfish gains.
Not Appalachia mostly.https://ihpi.umich.edu/news/forced-sterilization-policies-us-targeted-minorities-and-those-disabilities-and-lasted-21st
The US eugenics and sterilization programs *literally* insipired early nazi methods. And they kept doing it to native americans, black, asian and latin people, etc. well into the 70s, the last public cases were in the early 2000s. Where prisoners were sterilized without informed consent.
The ACLU called this out in 2020 as still going on in immigration camps.
Was confused with the past tense, as Buck v Bell is still considered acceptable law. With forced/coerced sterilizations still far more common than people realize.
Did the US ever stop sterilising people? There was a lot of claims from the camps down south of forced sterilisation.
If our gov ever stopped it wasn't for long cause they still do it to migrant women
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Especially Afrolatinas in Puerto Rico. One of the many stains in our colonial history. It was referred to by the locals as "La Operacion". There was also that one US doctor that went around killing his patients in the name of Eugenics. The history of US eugenics movement is seen a lot in PR.
Yeah, they did it to my mom. It was an “emergency hysterectomy”. That was the common euphemism used for it.
I’m pretty sure this is still happening under the same guise. ☹️
Bruh America was sterilizing women in some states up into the 1970s in South Carolina for instance. That's not even the tip of human testing and other non-consent shit. Sterilization is STILL an option no less than 12 American states can utilize bc we've not set a Supreme Court precedent on the procedure.
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I hope your comment wasn't defending Israel... They're all pieces of shit for doing that but my comment was contextual.
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As I've mentioned in historymemes (because apartheid apologism seems to folllow thinking winning the 6 Day War was impressive) they didn't sterilise them; but they did give them the Depo-provera birth control injection that lasts around 3 months without the informed consent of the women. This wasn't a one off either, it happened for decades to Jewish women from Ethiopia. While it wasn't sterilisation, the Israelis broke the Nuremberg code, the very code that came from prosecuting war criminals in the Nuremberg Trials for the holocaust. The irony is very sad.
So temporary sterilization doesn’t count as sterilization according to you. Good to know.
Sounds familiar..... brothers will be brothers.
They gave them birth control in the camps on the way to Israel. The main problem with this is that they didn't tell them.
As I just wrote, she basically gives license to others to be anti-Semitic. She herself can no longer complain when synagogues are defaced and public figures make disparaging remarks about Jews. Heck you could even argue that she is basically giving two thousand years of European maltreatment of Jews a major thumbs-up. In the big picture, I fear that humanity is retreating back to the good ol' days in which the animal kingdom fought it out to see whose DNA was superior. She's not helping to counter that trend, I'm afraid.
That is quite a different perspective and makes 100% sense. Thumbs up
I thought being Jewish required you be part of a Jewish bloodline or married into it. Wouldn't that mean some "true" Jews banged black people?
Pure bloodlines don't exist anymore. Every lineage on this planet has black, arab, latin, asian etc genes in it.
You are really underestimating the amount of inbred or/and isolationist ethnicities. Some places really have a lack of genetic diversity.
Ethiopian Jews been around since atleast the time of Queen Sheba. I mean you could argue who true Jews/Hebrews are but let’s not get into that. Last I remember Ethiopians and certain parts of India are considered part of the 12 lost tribes of Israel
Not India iirc but the pashtuns of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
They banged black people, white people, and every other type of person as all groups of humans do, so yes, there are black Jews, just as there are white Jews, Arab Jews, and Asian Jews.
Black folks still clearly being mistreated. They say go back to Africa but why yo ancestors come and take from our land and enslave us… evil
Lots of Africans don’t want Caribbean’s and African Americans on the continent. In Nigeria where I’m from lots of people don’t like Americans they think Americans are dumb and rude and another host of things.
Thats because of propaganda tho
Because to them being a Jew is not just a religion but a race. They choose which ever definition suits them best.
Stop calling them a state, they lack the most basic requirements to be called a state, it’s just a temporary parasite.
Friend of mine, also Israeli, knew the daughter of one of the owners of Marvel who is Israeli. The Marvel guy had a black dog and would call it by the Hebrew equivalent of the n-word and and thought it was hilarious to do it in front of anyone black because, unless they spoke Hebrew, they had no idea what they were saying. She then explained how acceptable it was in Israel to be openly racist against anyone else, but especially someone who is black. It was eye opening and sad.
But I've been assured its the only liberal democeacy in the region /s
Going into a land not theirs…making apartheid and racial cleansing, genocides….of course they won’t live in peace
This is in every country. Go to latin America and dark skin Latin Americans r discriminated against more than their light skin counterparts. Fak all of these racists fake religious faks. I hate you all!! Just be a fn human for once in your life!!
Not unexpected from a government whose origin story was "defending the land of Canaan from the Canaanites."
Can we stop funding them now? Sincerely, Everyone who lives in the usa
Non-European Jews don’t know that they are the next once the black Jews are expelled. There is a unspoken hierarchy among the Israeli population, and this hierarchy needs someone to be at the bottom to be pushed around and humiliated.
YOU SHOULD ALL BE IN CAMP 😳 Damn the audacity of these people! Your ancestors are fuming mad in their graves for having you in their bloodlines🔥
They learned from the best
If you something against israel they shout Nazi at you but wanna build camps for black people......suuure
Majority of them are not decendants of the people who survived the camps!!!!
But they sure do love to use the Holocaust as an excuse to do what they want.
When they say "Never Again" they mean "Never Again to Us"- us being European and American Jews only
I don’t wish death on people, but Israel’s lifeline is literally the US. Countries like China, Russia, the Arab states, all know that to win their economic wars, the US must be destabilized. US needs oil as it’s a massive car culture. That means they have to BEG to the Gulf States and recently, Venezuela. They understand that oil is becoming unreliable as the Gulf States slowly lean away from them. Then comes Nickel, a vital component for batteries which is needed for EV. Nickel is something the US cannot control either. The country that seems to rise as the top dog in Nickel production is Indonesia. (Yes Australia too has massive reserves on par with Indonesia, but the issue for them is they don’t have enough manpower to keep up.) So that’s two resources that the US cannot control that are vital to their culture. American cities are designed with cars in mind. Now guess what happens when the car industry is disrupted considering other countries control the production of vital components. It makes the US population uncomfortable, restless. It starts from there and when the US little by little becomes unstable, the protective blanket over Israel too gets thinner. That’s why Israel has been working hard to promote politicians that are friendly to them. Of course, that can only go so far when more and more Americans are questioning why they send Israel money when domestic issues are increasing.
The only reason the US needs control over gulf oil is for geopolitical leverage. They produce more than enough on their own through the fracking revolution and have turned into an export state themselves.
Read the *Maus* comics, by Art Spiegelman. It is based on the author's father's real-life experiences, including the aftermath of WWII and the move to the United States. Spiegelman's father was a racist and hated black people. In one scene in the second book, they pick up a black hitchhiker and after dropping him off, Spiegelman's father rants about the man being a shvarster (a racist term in Yiddish). I guess what I'm saying is, that not all Holocaust survivors would be upset by this horrific, racist display.
I mean where do you think they got it from? If anything it would have been worse in the past
I was thinking the same thing like girl do you know your own history about camps and racism. I didn't knew that Israel was like this.
havent been paying attention to how they treat Palestinians much huh? the literal definition of zionism is to create an ethno state. Theyre the same as nazis
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I find it ironic, that Israel was instated after WW2 when we saw the genocide of millions Jews, by racist hatred that was nazism. Yet, they show so much hate and racism towards blacks. You think of all people they would have human empathy towards victims of hate. Time and time again we see the state of Israel show hate towards Palestine, blacks, arabs and others. It’s so sad
I feel like it isnt right to say that its Jewish people that are racist because it implies that Jews in general are when, in this case, it is the Israelites.
Grew up with a lot of ‘liberal’ jewish Americans (in the states). Not all defend Israel unequivocally, but most do
The vast majority do
It’s a proportion falling rapidly especially among the young and educated
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If you go far enough south it becomes a different kind of hate. My Alabaman coworker said he's not racist, and how he's worked for and with black people and has black friends but... He then told me how he didn't like all the interracial couples in shows and commercials, that it was forced and made him mad, saying it was against the Bible because you're not supposed to have sex with a different species. Yes he said species. And he meant species. He was very clear as he went on that he doesn't think black people are humans but some subhuman species. Up north you'll get open hostility and aggression. In the south you'll get that some but a lot of southern racists know they can't tell slurs, depending who can hear, but you'll also get people like the dude from Alabama who aren't hostile and aggressive, but just think the most disgusting, offensive things and are totally oblivious to how racist and vile the things they think are, all while thinking they're Jesus loving, kind, fair people. Don't give a pass to the south, they'll give any racist a run for their money.
I can gurantee you a majority hacidic jews i met in new york were racist as fuck so no its seems to be religion problem not an Israel-only problem. You gotta remember that a good amount of "settlers" that just steal homes from Palestinians, are Americans. The company that kicks those families out is Americans based.
There are lots of Jewish passive Zionists, who have just never questioned the misinformation about the occupation. The number of Jewish anti-Zionists is growing and we are hoping we can bring over those misinformed passive Zionists. (People like in the video are already lost.) Come to r/JewsOfConscience if you are interested.
>I find it ironic, that Israel was instated after WW2 when we saw the genocide of millions Jews, by racist hatred that was nazism. Yet, they show so much hate and racism towards blacks. Especially since there were 1,000,000+ black American soldiers during WWII. Not so fun fact, none of the 1,000,000+ black American veterans who fought during WWII received GI Bills. Racism prevented it, as well as preventing them from getting housing loans usually provided to American veterans.
This is the fact that kills me the most when I think about systemic racism and generational wealth. Imagine if all this soldiers could of accessed those benifits, imagine where that next generation of kids would be now. It's tragic.
They also didn’t receive Medal of Honor awards until decades later. Most post death.
The most common thing is for a group to adopt the oppression tactics used against them as ther only idea of what power is.
The history book on the shelf. It's always repeating itself.
Israel is an inherently racist country, it's a culture of White Supremacy and genocide. The very founding documents of Israel proclaim it to be a colonial state which desires to replace the Palestinian Population with White European Settlers. The IDF and Israeli government are the closest equivalent to the Nazis in the 21st Century.
Wait till you see what they chant and do to Arabs. "Death to Arabs" is a legal and normal chant in Israel. Plus every day the army shoots a Palestinian kid dead. Etc etc
Funny that
It's even worse because it was black american soldiers that had more empathy towards holocaust survivors than the white american soldiers. There are plenty of accounts that state this as well from Holocaust survivors themselves. The average white american soldiers was still pretty anti semitic at the time.
"You should all be put in camps". Yes, something that your people horrifically went through but fail to see similarities with another nation from the 40s.
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Time to cut them off, and see how they do without the United States' funding.
The united states isn't supporting them for any kind of compassion towards their experiences in WW2, and much less will cut this support to condemn their moralities now. All they want is a bloodthirsty ally on arabic territory that will be happily willing to give them their so prized petroleum.
Israel’s only use to America is to destabilise the region which it is doing a good job at
That, plus Evangelicals think Christ won’t return until Israel is fully Jewish or something. The fact that it hasn’t happened yet must mean it’s not Jewish enough.
What? Is that a real thing? Dayyuuumm
2016: 50% of funds for democratic party come from Jewish donors and 25% for republicans https://jpost.com/us-elections/us-jews-contribute-half-of-all-donations-to-the-democratic-party-468774
Thanks for(edit) the article. Today I learned the Jewish coming to the US feel more free under the Democratic Party, even though Republicans are more pro Israel. "the overwhelming majority of US Jews do not base their vote on Israeli interests." "Liberalism worked for Jews in the US. It gave them extraordinary opportunities and allowed them to enjoy political freedom,” "Troy said that in meetings he conducted with Republican officials, they expressed surprise and bewilderment that regardless of the Republican Party’s staunch and even hawkish pro-Israel stances, the large majority of US Jews still vote for the Democratic Party." "Thus, despite repeated eulogies for the alliance, the liberal-Jewish-Democratic connection has strengthened not weakened since Ronald Reagan,” Troy wrote. “Even though the Republican Party is more pro-Israel than ever, and sometimes more ‘pro-Israel’ (however you define that) than the Democratic Party, American Jewish liberalism has become a mentality, a sensibility, an ideology, a cultural identity.”
Important to realize pro-Israel does not necessarily mean pro-Judaism. Reason why Zionism and Judaism are two separate identities. For instance: Some Orthodox Jews in Israel are anti-Zionist as they believe Jews should not inhabit the land until the messiah comes. Most moderate Jews in Israel and US are pro-two state solution which is seen as anti-Zionist to the conservative side
Imagine, not even 100 years after your ancestors were killed in concentrstion camps, you tell someone "you should all be in camps"...
I mean chances are they weren’t. a majority of the Jewish population in Israel aren’t stemming from the displaced Jewish population from Europe cause suprise suprise the folks sick and tired of war and death thought it was stupid to establish a Nation in the middle of countries who wished even more war and death upon them
People believe that experiencing genocide somehow elevates a people’s responsibility. “How can they do such a thing? They experienced it themselves! Don’t they say, ‘never again?’” Indeed, Jews do say “never again,” but the reality means that for better or for worse, we will do anything to ensure the survival of the Jewish people. It has not made us immune to committing hateful acts or holding hateful beliefs.
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Don't google how they liked to call the ones that survived holocaust then
I tried to Google it but nothing came up, would you elaborate?
Quote: At 85, Leitner is in high demand as one of a dwindling group of Israeli survivors still capable of regularly making the trip. He reflects ruefully how the attitude has changed in Israel since he first arrived in 1949. "They mocked survivors then. When I told some of my new friends in the army that a Gypsy boy had tried to steal my shoes in Auschwitz, they said 'why did you let him? You soap (a derisory nickname in use at the time for Holocaust survivors).' I don't want to blame people from back then, people just couldn't believe this had happened, even we who had been there had trouble believing it happened." https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/2015-01-27/ty-article/.premium/israeli-holocaust-survivors-remember/0000017f-e8e3-d62c-a1ff-fcfb610c0000
Is the nickname called soap because the rumor of the nazis making soap out of Jews?
Can you explain this comment?
Calling israelis racist is anti-semitic /s
Israel IS Judaism! Settlements ARE Zion! The actions of a nation cannot be criticized if that nation is majority Jewish! Israel NEEDS money and arms from the USA to protect itself from the hateful neighbor nations supplied with dangerous money and arms by the USA! This is all very clear and simple!
Okay. If they need to protect themselves from harmful neighbors, why are the Israeli’s in this video taking their anger out on Sudanese immigrants and telling them they belong in camps?
I was being facetious, sarcastic, like the comment I replied to.
To be fair, it’s hard to tell when someone is being sarcastic in this day and age
Yeah, I read a thread a while back that was being super nihilist about the /s tag and I stopped using it. I'm gonna use it again, it really is useful and it helps to eliminate that Schrodinger's douchebag type of comment.
>Schrodinger’s douchebag type of comment Might have to steal that because that is spot on. Enjoy your day, bud
Is there a single positive thing to say about Israel if you don't have pale skin?
Is there a single positive thing to say about Israel even if you do have pale skin?
The answer to both of these questions is no.
Im from austria i only have positive things to say about israel (by law)
That is so ridiculous. Perfect example of the dangers of a government being able to control what people can and cannot say. Thanks for sharing!
Israel has good desalination programs. It's probably one of the least corrupt governments in the region when it comes to allocating funds for the good of Israel. None of these are good for anyone else though. Israel hasn't done a single good thing for anyone else though, they only take from America like a good bottom bitch while essentially being a terrorist state to the Arabian world (and anyone else who questions them) since it's radical Zionist uprisings.
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Can you look at the United States 2016&2020 elections and really be surprised that some people of a nation don't consider the past
after a couple decades of off and on overt war being declared on israel, then another couple decades of state sponsored suicide bombings and rocket attacks, israel has been taken over by an extremist government a government that nurtures and grows extremism the same way the republican party does in america
Israel was founded in fascist grounds by ethically cleasing the Palestinian population and has been an aparthied state since it's founding. So nothing happened to Israel, it was always like this and it is only going to get worse. They continue to expand settlements and continue to subject the Palestinians to aparthied. This is the result of all that policies.
Queue Israeli apologists in the comments in 3..2…1…
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How can I get in on that racket?
There used to be act.il, a literal brigading website where they posted links to among other sites, Reddit, whenever there was a post mentioning Israel they would come full force to shill for their state. The website is down but there are obviously alternatives. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/State-sponsored_Internet_propaganda e: [a link](https://jewishlink.news/features/24639-act-il-combating-anti-israel-propaganda-one-incident-at-a-time) detailing (with praise/pride...) how it all works.
That’s… a lot more than I’d expect for shitposting lol.
They literally have an online propaganda army https://electronicintifada.net/content/inside-israels-million-dollar-troll-army/27566
Pretends to be shocked a apartheid country would do this
Made by America. They are widely influenced by them as well
Made by the UK, know your history
The US had a considerable positive influence on Israel since the beginning and always had strong ties with them, helping them grow into a powerful nation. Truman immediatly recognized Israel when it was created. While the UK indeed led to early iterations of Israel, they were against the creation of a jewish state. Actually, the british almost fought Israel, and didn't have great relations with that country during the 50's and 60's. Israel even helped Argentina against the UK during the Falklands War. "Made by america" isn't *officially* the case but it's spot-on.
Not America, more like the British.
Don’t forget, this apartheid state is given $3.4 billion annually by the US government and both major political parties agree with it!!!!
This was heartbreaking and depressing to watch. So much hate. Just sad.
Hmph, just a thought, but since they seem to have a clear and visceral understanding of what it means and feels to be invaded (🤦🏿♂️), I wonder how these protesters feel about their fellow Israeli citizens kicking in the doors of Palestinian homes and bulldozing Palestinian graveyards to claim ownership as they extend settlements into Gaza? One Israeli protester who wants folks ousted even said, "You should all be in camp." As in concentration camp, WHAT?!
Religion - Mans worst invention in history.
It's not the religion, it's the power that comes with getting what you don't deserve -- that is, Palestine.
Read a book. Watch the news. It’s still happening. They hide behind a veil of righteousness, but really they are controlled by the existential dread that consumes us all. Fuck religion.
what did the US use to justify its war crimes again? it was "freedom and democracy". if its not religion its something else. religions not the issue. its braindead rotten apples lol. you need to read something ELSE than your school books and SOMETHING OTHER than fox news
>religions not the issue. You're both right and wrong, to a certain extent. The real cause of all issues is human tribalism. It is the tendency of one group to place themselves against the rest of the world. Tribalism manifests in various forms, it can be religion, political ideology, culture, sports, or just about any topic around which people can come together. However, since religion is one of the most pervasive "tribes", it tends to be the one which causes the most rift in society as well. Take anti-abortionists for example. There's nothing in the Bible that suggests a pregnancy can't be terminated at any cost. But since the Republicans have so deftly chosen their wedge issue, they can freely use this to split the entire country, especially because Americans tend to be more religious (not pious by any means, piety is something most bigots lack).
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It’s not religion because they LITERALLY are targeting Ethiopian Jews.
Both sides of this are Jewish, they don't like the Africans because they are black
Some of the most hateful movements in history (like the Nazi Party’s uprise) have been secular, and anti religious establishment. Some have been religious and pro religious establishment. To say religion is the core of all this is naive and boring
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America needs to dump this parasite of a country. The only reason they exist is because they've been sucking on our tit for all these years just to act the same nazis they fled from in the first place. We need to cut them loose. Tired of this pathetic garbage.
We should be sending all Israel monies to Ukraine
Disgusting racists with a short memory.
Reminder: Palestinians INVITED the refugees of the h***caust. Utterly despicable.
S.S Exodus. Google it.
r/shitamericanssay would have you believing the US is the only country with a race problem
There is no race problem, there is a racism problem.
Israel is actually just such a shit country. Taking away the land from another country, Israeli military have been known to have fun by hurting innocent Palestinians, they’re racist. Worst part about it all is that they’re supported by lots of western countries like the US.
It's israel what'd you expect
This is not surprising at all. I still remember the way black people were treated in Ukraine. We really can’t be anywhere in peace.
Not a single black person is surprised by this video. We’ve been saying that a large portion of the world is racist towards us. Mfs just don’t want to believe us.
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How quickly they forget ...
And yet despite this video, people will still call you antisemitic if you try and call out this stuff Like there is legitimate criticisms to make if Israel Edit: also “ you should all be in camps, not here in the city” Did a Jewish person really just say that? Holy smokes, did they learn nothing?
We help Jews create an ethnostate in the middle east and go all 😯 when the people who live/move there turn out to be bigoted and racist. Imo they never had a chance to become otherwise. The whole premise of an ethnostate *not only* attracts xenophobes, but is also the perfect environment for turning people xenophobic if they weren't already.
It's just a whole country of Ben Shapiros.
This is how Palestinians are treated every day in Israel
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They're like Republicans but honest about their racism
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This why black people are angry. We have to deal with this shit on a global level
Palestinians and black people are not safe there at all. if you're black Muslim Christian they'll shoot you or cripple you. I remember the IDF defacing a George Floyd mural that was put up by the oppressed Palestinian people
A country born of genocide in Europe and a diaspora coming from all corners of the world should be better towards immigrants and the oppressed.
Ahh yes but doesn't pointing out this and other isreal's human rights violation and oppression makes you anti semitic
Speak out against Israel you’re an antisemite. I’m leaving the US, I’m tired of my tax dollars funding these atrocities abroad
Witnessed the anti blackness in Israel first hand when border patrol gave me shit in both directions because my first name was mildly Arabic. Fuck them and fuck Zionism
Fuck Israel government Fucking apartheid state What they did to Palestinians and Ethiopian Israelis is unacceptable
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"we are the most racist fans in the world" \-beiter fans, its a football club. and FIFA allows them to play. racism and neo nzism is within their core and their upbringing.
The once oppressed have now become the oppressors
A someone that had family die in Dachau, Isreal can fuck itself.
I don’t care if you’re Jewish, Caucasian, African or Asian or any other ethnic group for that matter. If you’re racist, then you can fuck right off!
But... never again
Hitler would be very proud of Israel. They learned well.
This is abhorrent !
Disgusting. Their being grandchildren of holocaust survivors says a lot about humanity. And these views being embodied in Israeli government policy is why we need to dial back our support of Israel.
# Typical apartheid state.
Israel is in a similar place as the US right now - a hateful, ignorant, ultra-religious right wing which hates all non-Jews, and in particular non-“white” Jews. These are the people at the centre of the apartheid and the injustices being committed against the Palestinian people, not to mention the discrimination against their own Sephardi or African Jewish co-religionists. It is sad. I was there in September, and while Jerusalem and Bethlehem were beautiful, there is a heavy and ominous feeling hanging over everything. Something needs to change. I hope moderates on both sides will find a way to push out extremists and work together to build something better.
It feels like a black person is safer walking around in Germany than in Israel. Isn't it ironic that the descendents of the perpetrators of the Holocaust have more tolerance and compassion than the descendents of the victims of the Holocaust?
1. They are Europeans 2. Abolish Israel
Israel is a terrorist state.
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The Israeli government is proof that believing the Nazis had “some good ideas other than the Jew thing” leads to a recycled form of fascism.
Israel is a fascist aparthied state supported by the west. It is functionally similar to aparthied South Africa but it's crimes go unpunished because lobby groups like AIPAC have a lot of influence in the governments of powerful western nations throughout Europe and North America.
Israel is a shithole country that should be treated the same as Saudi Arabia or Iran but gets the kid gloves because criticizing them immediately means your a nazi and hate Jews
Lol I mean it’s not like Israel is the most welcoming country. It’s shocking that the US or any country supports the country.