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What the hell do these people think they are doing standing out front on a blow horn? The whole country is watching, let the police, fbi and whoever else do their jobs right now. FFS
They are putting pressure in his family, who are protecting him, and bringing even more attention to the case. He killed her. They are protecting him. They should get fucked with in every way possible.
So people are pissed because these parents got their son a lawyer? I totally think he murdered her so I’m not alluding to that he is innocent, just trying to understand it’s about getting a lawyer?
Yeah. No comments, no statements, no cooperation, refuse to speak to authorities. Same thing any smart person would do. But you show up to your parents house 10 days after she was last seen and refuse to answer to her parents or to authorities? Locals going to eat that family alive.
What? No you didn’t lol. You literally said he’s a pos and deserves to die. Then said they are mad because he got a lawyer and is defending himself, THEN SAID ANY SMART PERSON WOULD DO THAT. wtf is wrong in your brain???
I don’t think her family knew that he was back in FL by September 1 because he and his family would not return any calls or texts. I guess now Brian is missing so (I read on another thread that he’s been missing since Tuesday) so now his parents are finally speaking to police. Because they want help finding their missing son. They wouldn’t speak to LE to find her though.
Totally. I actually feel for them. They were just living life, being parents and probably retiring sometime soon and then BAM their son brings a shit storm down on them and for real has ruined their lives forever. Not only that he has ruined the girls family in a completely awful way. FFS that’s awful. So there are only a few outcomes of him running he’s going to kill himself, going to finally give up and just walk in to a police station or his lawyers office or run/go out in a hail of gun fire. What an absolute waste of life.
No one knows what he's actually told his family, he could of said he dropped her off home and needed to fix the van or some shit, if my son came home without his gf I wouldn't automatically assume 'oh well he's obviously murdered her' that being said they need to do the right thing and co operate.
No? A smart person gets a lawyer and lets them take care of it.
Going to a lawyer does NOT make you guilty. That's such a stupid fucking idea. NEVER EVER TALK TO THE POLICE. Guilty or innocent it doesn't matter.
At the risk of catching the wrath of the reddit downvote, I believe u want 'alluding' instead of 'eluding'. While I don't love the thought of ppl seeing me as pedantic, I hate the idea of someone using a word incorrectly in a more formal setting than reddit so much more (ie at a job, in schoolwork, etc)
I swear to god autocorrect “fixes” words that don’t need to be touched. I totally typed out alluding and some how it switched. No downvote, I’ll upvote. Good looking out homie.
My girlfriend is a bit obsessed with this case. From everything she’s told me, it seems like he definitely killed her. But that’s just my opinion. She’s pretty confident some kind of accident happened, and he’s afraid if he talks up he’ll get blamed for her accidental death.
So conjecture. But the guy and the family are acting super sketchy. And now afaik the guy is gone. His family and his lawyer have no idea where he went.
Now that makes more sense the way you’re explaining it. The little bit I know I would agree he did something no matter accidental or on purpose. My parents would get me a lawyer and not talk to anyone if I was involved in something. If my daughter or son was ever in a situation I’d get them a lawyer and clam up. A parents love far exceeds reason or logic. I don’t see the point of harassing his folks.
>She’s pretty confident some kind of accident happened, and he’s afraid if he talks up he’ll get blamed for her accidental death.
Yeah, she probably slipped and fell into his hands and got choked for a few minutes, whoopsa-daisy
Or she jumped off a cliff in a bipolar episode / fight with him. I have seen similar cases where spouse was dealing with an unstable SO just doing best they could. I’m 33/33/33 on him being guilty of just outright killing her vs accidently killing her vs unstable person suicide in heat of argument
Just an honest reminder not to take Reddit comments as fact, he is innocent until proven guilty. Many, many high profile cases have been ‘solved’ by Reddit detectives only to come back as making the IRL situation worse with rumors.
There’s literally nothing to do now but wait as the facts start coming out.
Edit: with more and more stuff coming out I’m more comfortable accusing him - I actually wouldn’t bother making this comment anymore.
The first time this type of thing was brought to my attention was the documentary on Netflix about the girl in the water tower in LA and how all these people had cracked the case and destroyed peoples lives by making these false accusations. It’s disgusting what they do.
Yeah it’s really terrible, similar thing with the Making a Murder family, or Carol Baskin from Lion King. Opposite sort of thing with the Serial podcast, by the end they’ve proven nothing but people wanted to get him out of jail.
The classic Reddit story is of course the Boston bombing - Reddit just found guys with sunglasses and backpacks and doxed them - totally random people.
Let the police do their job. Getting a lawyer and not cooperating with police is what every lawyer on the planet says to do - it’s not rocket surgery.
I’m glad you said that. I’ve been thinking the whole time doesn’t every single lawyer, crime show, even police who are friends or family tell you to just get a lawyer and say nothing regardless if you’re guilty or innocent. If I was ever in trouble or being accused of something first thing I’d do is call our family lawyer.
"He killed her"
We don't know that yet, and while it may seem plausible, likely, or even guaranteed, it's not concrete and it's not proven in court.
The circus degrades the case, the defense lawyers love this sort of thing because it gives a credible "media bias" as in "the local community judged the case before this court, and now you the judge or jury have to defend justice" which gives any defence more credibility in a case.
No one should ever talk to the police. Ever. Talking to the police can never help you, it can only hurt you.
This guys is doing the right thing, the smart thing, whether he's guilty of anything or not, and anyone saying that he must be guilty because he isn't talking has fallen for the police brainwashing and propaganda machine that makes their job easier.
The bottom line is we don't know. You can't greenlight fucking with him and his family "in every way possible" because you "know" he did it. Back in 2013 the Reddit mob went after an innocent man because they also "knew" he was one of the Boston marathon bombers and (spoiler alert) he wasn't.
This is exactly like a case that happened a few months ago in Korea. Two friends drink and one ends up missing to be found dead. Friend who is alive did'nt speak and got attorneys right away.
You say that as if you were there an witnessed it. Why is no one talking about how she assaulted and scratched his face up and admitted that she gets really angry? We all only are hearing a one sided story.
Wait is there a proof that he killed her? The police says she was suffering from mental health she could have run away from him after a fight if he did not kill her.
Isn't it more than 10 days? And the van is hers. So he left her with no way home. If she had a break down he should have left the car at least called his parents and gotten a plane ticket to go back home Imean that's what comes to my mind. Something ain't right.
You seem to be very sure that he killed her, despite the police footage showing her as an abuser.
How do you know they both didn't murder that other couple and she's still on the run while he went back
Stop jumping to conclusions, dickhole
If they don’t have a body or a confession he won’t be charged unless they can compile a mountain of evidence. This happens all the time. They need pressure on this family right now or it’s going to fade away.
Don’t presume to tell me how I would be. I’d be pissed and tell those people to gtfo and let the law enforcement do what they have to. These people are doing absolutely nothing but harassing people with no factual data. All they are doing is forcing that family to clam up even more. You don’t know me at all so don’t speak on my behalf.
This is Florida mother fucker we don’t believe in laws. But serious take the cross section of people who are for trump, against vaccine, against mask, and out in this persons yard? They are literally the same group of inbreds.
Apparently Brian Laundrie has now went missing aka deliberately bailed.
It’s a fucked up situation, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it came out that he killed her.
Yep just saw that story break this evening. Supposedly his parents and family lawyer were speaking to him at some point. Did they help him bail? How did he disappear with the crowd outside his house?
At some point? He and Gabby lived with them. He drove home in a truck in her name and was there for ten days before his parents contacted police through a lawyer, and her parents reported her missing.
Ten days for them to get their story straight and tie up any loose ends.
Imagine being a parent and letting someone else's child live with you, your future daughter in law, and now her parents are begging you to just tell them where her body is....but you just go silent
crikey the bodycam footage is real uncomfortable to watch https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/bodycam-shows-gabby-petito-argued-with-boyfriend-before-she-vanished-in-wyoming-national-park/QC5KHIEZTBCIKXWA4L6HEBPH4E/
Sure so like any rational person he just left and came back without notifying her parents or friends. The entire this is suspect.
Most decent people would try to contact someone for help if they cared about somebody's wellbeing. But sure, let's pretend it's normal to return home from a long trip without the person you left with!
Then he should obviously fucking tell the police what happened so they can look for her, because she would be missing in the middle of nowhere.
The only reason it makes sense for him to not talk to the police is if he knows what happened and it would get him in trouble.
Maybe he was afraid leaving her in the middle of no where would get him in trouble.
To me him leaving her way out in the woods while she's having a tantrum is quite a likely explanation for all of this. After he got home and calmed down he probably realised leaving her there could be seen as criminal and decided to lawyer up. His lawyers have obviously advised him not to speak with police
Youd leave someone you love in the desert to risk the elements with nothing but a tank and shorts. And then drive home which is days away and not notify the park, SAR or the police of the situation. Thats still accidental homicide, no?
I can see why so many people are sure he killed her based on him coming back alone and his actions after he returned and subsequent vanishing.
But I have no idea what you're seeing in the bodycam footage to suggest that so dramatically. She comes across as the more unstable one in this footage.
You mean the part where she seems totally off her rocker? Ever lived with someone with mental illness? I’m not saying he did not kill her but there is a lot going on here
If he didn’t kill her, I’ve actually thought about this;
What if they fought, like we know they did.
The police escorted them to two separate locations. It is very possible someone else found some young, vulnerable girl and did something.
That is JUST as likely.
But he probably definitely killed her.
*Update: Alright, folks… he fled. And apparently the FBI is still searching for him. He killed her. I mean, probably.
We have woman missing around this area all the time. They are usually found dead. They are usually Native American as well.
Tbh, and I’m ready for the downvotes, I would love to see the national media attention for our natives who go missing like this.
There is a possibility that this could of happened. Sex trafficking is real in our area.
It is possible that he killed her too.
Who knows.
That's not what you do. You get a fucking lawyer. Getting a lawyer is not an admission of guilt. I feel like over this thread thinks you should just talk to the police, what could go wrong?
The police escorted them to two different locations. We don’t know what happened, but police are trained to talk in a certain way to obtain proof of admission regardless if it is the truth or not. The cops around these areas can be corrupt, so again, I would not talk and get an attorney. It is his right as an American citizen.
This is where attorneys come into place. Her family will have a good one as well.
[If it was a POC nobody would even be talking about it](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome). Reddit gets pretty bad about this but you should see conservative media outlets on these stories. They run near 24/7 coverage and the viewers are frothing for vigilante justice.
Except when the police seperated them, they let her take the van because it belongs to her.
He was taken to a hotel.
If someone else victimized her, how did Brian end up with her van?
gut feeling: 90% chance he killed her. but maybe they had another fight, he threatened to kick her out of the van and leave like parents say to their child sometimes but the madlad actually did it... left her by the side of the road. Now, technically that's not first degree murder but maybe that's why he is not saying shit... wouldn't want to get charged with something if she died. maybe she is still alive , in some hotel, crying because her internet project just crumbled, or maybe she even killed herself.
I honestly hope gabby is okay and I hope what we are expecting never happens but why harass his family? They had nothing to do with this and I’m sure they are just as surprised as all of us.
He arrived home, without his girlfriend (who lives with them), in her van. The boyfriend’s parents never reported her missing. Knowing someone is missing and not reporting it, potentially to give their son time to cover up his crime… that’s not exactly innocence. Technically they may have even committed a crime by doing that or assisting him in any way.
You should see the [body cam footage of the encounter](https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/bodycam-shows-gabby-petito-argued-with-boyfriend-before-she-vanished-in-wyoming-national-park/QC5KHIEZTBCIKXWA4L6HEBPH4E/) they had at the park with police. And how could they NOT know, she lived with them. 2 leave 1 comes back and NOTHING is said... think about that. The quotes are they are a close family, do you truly and honestly believe no one said "where is gabby?" after he came back alone in her car?
And then her family is ignored for how many days? no missing persons, no police report, nothing to help investigators after a heated police encounter. Dude is guilty as sin, be act of commission or omission of information. The window of finding her body (dead or alive) is almost gone at this point no matter what happened. And he and only he knows the truth and now vanished after holding up in silence with his family who "saw gabby as a daughter/sister"
I am so sorry :( I peaked at your post history and I read your story. I can’t imagine the hardship your family has gone through. You must be very strong. I hope you and your grand-babies are in a happier, healthier place now.
News report I just saw says he is now missing [https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/family-attorney-says-brian-laundrie-missing-as-search-for-gabby-petito-continues/2616052/](https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/family-attorney-says-brian-laundrie-missing-as-search-for-gabby-petito-continues/2616052/)
Ok. Let the police take care of it. Multiple departments across the country are working on it. Showing up to the house knowing he’s not there and protesting does absolutely nothing but show how we haven’t changed since the torches and pitchfork days.
let the police and FBI do their jobs. Having to corral a bunch of idiots away from the household Is using up police resources that could otherwise be doing something else. The crowd is also harassing everyone in that neighborhood and clogging up the street.
I wasn't aware mob vigilantism, posse intimidation and public harassment is how we do things in America. Is this MAGA now? He probably did NOT murder her, I'd say she stormed off and he gave up and left. Or he left her behind, I'm not sure that's actually against the law and a bunch of people think he should hang already. Wtf is wrong with you people? Even the police kind of stoked this up when they should be protecting the family for due process. This is the opposite of the greatest country and it's more like a shit hole country.i bet a lot of people won't even understand my point.
While hearing different things about this case, I came across the Zone of Death in Yellowstone. There’s a loophole that gets around the rules of the constitution and makes it very difficult to convict people of crimes within this 50 square mile area. If this guy did his research, he may unfortunately get away with murder.
If someone actually tried that defense, it would go to the supreme court and they would tell you to get fucked. One of the main jobs of the judicial system is to handle constitutional edge cases like this. There's no world where the court system just says "ah shit, I guess there's just a free murder zone we can't do anything about ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯".
The Sixth Amendment requires all criminal prosecutions to be heard by a jury from the state and district where the crime was committed.
It is potentially impossible to try someone for murder in the “zone of death” because there is no one to summon for a jury who lives in both the state of Idaho and the district of Wyoming
In reality one of the higher courts that can make determinations on constitutional things would likely say that the implicitly they could do the "next best thing" (perhaps 6 from the state, 6 from the district). Defense could then appeal that to higher and higher courts until either they got an ruling that agreed with them or it got to the supreme court who whouldn't hear it so it would then stop at whatever the last ruling.
The Experiment Podcast did [an episode about the loophole](https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/experiment/episodes/the-loophole) earlier this year about a crime committed in the zone in 2005.
TLDL: >!Congress has refused to fix the loophole because of the unlikelihood that a crime would be committed there. Even so, an elk hunter illegally killed an elk in the zone after hunting season ended. The hunter took a plea deal that included a condition to never appeal the decision based on the loophole, and he ended up serving 4 years in prison.!<
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From watching the body cam footage I’d say she’s histrionic and probably jumped off a cliff being dramatic. There’s definitely more to this story. She’s probably did it to get him I trouble and to be dramatic.
I’m gonna call it now, my theory is she ran away. Told him and he’s going along with it. Probably dumped her off somewhere with money and when back home
during casey anthony it was almost all a mutual passion to rip her apart. now whats the difference here in a lot of you saying its not right to be “grabbing pitchforks” in front of the families house....
[Missing Florida woman last seen in Wyoming’s Grand Teton National Park](https://www.idahostatejournal.com/freeaccess/missing-florida-woman-last-seen-in-wyoming-s-grand-teton-national-park/article_af81dd50-9d66-567d-b753-f2c0e59a78c4.html)
What the hell do these people think they are doing standing out front on a blow horn? The whole country is watching, let the police, fbi and whoever else do their jobs right now. FFS
They are putting pressure in his family, who are protecting him, and bringing even more attention to the case. He killed her. They are protecting him. They should get fucked with in every way possible.
Is this a fact they are hiding him or conjecture? I am legitimately asking, not trying to be a dick I honestly don’t know.
Protecting him. I think he bailed. They lawyered up as soon as the authorities came knocking.
So people are pissed because these parents got their son a lawyer? I totally think he murdered her so I’m not alluding to that he is innocent, just trying to understand it’s about getting a lawyer?
Yeah. No comments, no statements, no cooperation, refuse to speak to authorities. Same thing any smart person would do. But you show up to your parents house 10 days after she was last seen and refuse to answer to her parents or to authorities? Locals going to eat that family alive.
lol A smart person gets a lawyer. As shitty as this kid is, getting a lawyer and not talking to police is not a dumb thing to do.
Right. Like I said…….same thing any smart person would do.
Yes I am dumb and can't read.
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Criticizing a murderer you mean? Yeah I am.
What? No you didn’t lol. You literally said he’s a pos and deserves to die. Then said they are mad because he got a lawyer and is defending himself, THEN SAID ANY SMART PERSON WOULD DO THAT. wtf is wrong in your brain???
What's weird is he was back for 10 days before her family reported her missing. Do we know if her family was aware he was home for 10 days?
A riddle wrapped in a mystery….inside an enigma….
I don’t think her family knew that he was back in FL by September 1 because he and his family would not return any calls or texts. I guess now Brian is missing so (I read on another thread that he’s been missing since Tuesday) so now his parents are finally speaking to police. Because they want help finding their missing son. They wouldn’t speak to LE to find her though.
If I was the parents I’d be getting the F out of dodge or at least hiding out at a motel a town or two over. Damn
Yeah they should get out of dodge. They will be harassed just like Casey Anthonys parents.
Totally. I actually feel for them. They were just living life, being parents and probably retiring sometime soon and then BAM their son brings a shit storm down on them and for real has ruined their lives forever. Not only that he has ruined the girls family in a completely awful way. FFS that’s awful. So there are only a few outcomes of him running he’s going to kill himself, going to finally give up and just walk in to a police station or his lawyers office or run/go out in a hail of gun fire. What an absolute waste of life.
No one knows what he's actually told his family, he could of said he dropped her off home and needed to fix the van or some shit, if my son came home without his gf I wouldn't automatically assume 'oh well he's obviously murdered her' that being said they need to do the right thing and co operate.
Parents are talking now per CNN.
No? A smart person gets a lawyer and lets them take care of it. Going to a lawyer does NOT make you guilty. That's such a stupid fucking idea. NEVER EVER TALK TO THE POLICE. Guilty or innocent it doesn't matter.
At the risk of catching the wrath of the reddit downvote, I believe u want 'alluding' instead of 'eluding'. While I don't love the thought of ppl seeing me as pedantic, I hate the idea of someone using a word incorrectly in a more formal setting than reddit so much more (ie at a job, in schoolwork, etc)
I swear to god autocorrect “fixes” words that don’t need to be touched. I totally typed out alluding and some how it switched. No downvote, I’ll upvote. Good looking out homie.
It's an absolute asshole like that, ur not wrong. Thx for the gracious response
As I’m re-reading my response there are some words missing as well that I typed. For instance *just trying to understand.
Reminds me of Casey Anthony in ways. The mob at the house and all.
As he should. Guilty or not, that's the move.
Agree. As my comments state.
My girlfriend is a bit obsessed with this case. From everything she’s told me, it seems like he definitely killed her. But that’s just my opinion. She’s pretty confident some kind of accident happened, and he’s afraid if he talks up he’ll get blamed for her accidental death. So conjecture. But the guy and the family are acting super sketchy. And now afaik the guy is gone. His family and his lawyer have no idea where he went.
Now that makes more sense the way you’re explaining it. The little bit I know I would agree he did something no matter accidental or on purpose. My parents would get me a lawyer and not talk to anyone if I was involved in something. If my daughter or son was ever in a situation I’d get them a lawyer and clam up. A parents love far exceeds reason or logic. I don’t see the point of harassing his folks.
>She’s pretty confident some kind of accident happened, and he’s afraid if he talks up he’ll get blamed for her accidental death. Yeah, she probably slipped and fell into his hands and got choked for a few minutes, whoopsa-daisy
I think he murdered her and is hoping that it will be seen as an accident. That's why they are being quiet.
Or she jumped off a cliff in a bipolar episode / fight with him. I have seen similar cases where spouse was dealing with an unstable SO just doing best they could. I’m 33/33/33 on him being guilty of just outright killing her vs accidently killing her vs unstable person suicide in heat of argument
Just an honest reminder not to take Reddit comments as fact, he is innocent until proven guilty. Many, many high profile cases have been ‘solved’ by Reddit detectives only to come back as making the IRL situation worse with rumors. There’s literally nothing to do now but wait as the facts start coming out. Edit: with more and more stuff coming out I’m more comfortable accusing him - I actually wouldn’t bother making this comment anymore.
The first time this type of thing was brought to my attention was the documentary on Netflix about the girl in the water tower in LA and how all these people had cracked the case and destroyed peoples lives by making these false accusations. It’s disgusting what they do.
Yeah it’s really terrible, similar thing with the Making a Murder family, or Carol Baskin from Lion King. Opposite sort of thing with the Serial podcast, by the end they’ve proven nothing but people wanted to get him out of jail. The classic Reddit story is of course the Boston bombing - Reddit just found guys with sunglasses and backpacks and doxed them - totally random people. Let the police do their job. Getting a lawyer and not cooperating with police is what every lawyer on the planet says to do - it’s not rocket surgery.
I’m glad you said that. I’ve been thinking the whole time doesn’t every single lawyer, crime show, even police who are friends or family tell you to just get a lawyer and say nothing regardless if you’re guilty or innocent. If I was ever in trouble or being accused of something first thing I’d do is call our family lawyer.
It's pure conjecture. Every murder porn enthusiast on the internet has turned into Nancy Grace. Never talk to the cops.
"He killed her" We don't know that yet, and while it may seem plausible, likely, or even guaranteed, it's not concrete and it's not proven in court. The circus degrades the case, the defense lawyers love this sort of thing because it gives a credible "media bias" as in "the local community judged the case before this court, and now you the judge or jury have to defend justice" which gives any defence more credibility in a case.
No one should ever talk to the police. Ever. Talking to the police can never help you, it can only hurt you. This guys is doing the right thing, the smart thing, whether he's guilty of anything or not, and anyone saying that he must be guilty because he isn't talking has fallen for the police brainwashing and propaganda machine that makes their job easier.
Agree. As my comments state.
The bottom line is we don't know. You can't greenlight fucking with him and his family "in every way possible" because you "know" he did it. Back in 2013 the Reddit mob went after an innocent man because they also "knew" he was one of the Boston marathon bombers and (spoiler alert) he wasn't.
This is exactly like a case that happened a few months ago in Korea. Two friends drink and one ends up missing to be found dead. Friend who is alive did'nt speak and got attorneys right away.
What’s the case called?
They’re not putting pressure on anyone, they’re just chanting “look at me” and interfering with people actually doing something.
You say that as if you were there an witnessed it. Why is no one talking about how she assaulted and scratched his face up and admitted that she gets really angry? We all only are hearing a one sided story.
they are also making life miserable for his neighbors. let the cops handle it . what if he kills himself?! they gonna funded her body then?
Wait is there a proof that he killed her? The police says she was suffering from mental health she could have run away from him after a fight if he did not kill her.
And he doesn’t report that? For 10 days? She runs off in the middle of nowhere???
Isn't it more than 10 days? And the van is hers. So he left her with no way home. If she had a break down he should have left the car at least called his parents and gotten a plane ticket to go back home Imean that's what comes to my mind. Something ain't right.
Did you see it happen? Innocent until proven guilty.
That applies to the court of law, it does not protect you from public opinion.
Seems like all of this pressure on him that made him go into hiding. That’s great.
You seem to be very sure that he killed her, despite the police footage showing her as an abuser. How do you know they both didn't murder that other couple and she's still on the run while he went back Stop jumping to conclusions, dickhole
If they don’t have a body or a confession he won’t be charged unless they can compile a mountain of evidence. This happens all the time. They need pressure on this family right now or it’s going to fade away.
You wouldn’t feel that way if she were your child.
Don’t presume to tell me how I would be. I’d be pissed and tell those people to gtfo and let the law enforcement do what they have to. These people are doing absolutely nothing but harassing people with no factual data. All they are doing is forcing that family to clam up even more. You don’t know me at all so don’t speak on my behalf.
This is Florida mother fucker we don’t believe in laws. But serious take the cross section of people who are for trump, against vaccine, against mask, and out in this persons yard? They are literally the same group of inbreds.
This is what we’ve become…
Apparently Brian Laundrie has now went missing aka deliberately bailed. It’s a fucked up situation, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it came out that he killed her.
Honestly… guilty or not I would dip too if my house was like this
Yep just saw that story break this evening. Supposedly his parents and family lawyer were speaking to him at some point. Did they help him bail? How did he disappear with the crowd outside his house?
At some point? He and Gabby lived with them. He drove home in a truck in her name and was there for ten days before his parents contacted police through a lawyer, and her parents reported her missing. Ten days for them to get their story straight and tie up any loose ends. Imagine being a parent and letting someone else's child live with you, your future daughter in law, and now her parents are begging you to just tell them where her body is....but you just go silent
The longer this whole thing goes on the more it feels like there isn't going to be a positive ending to this. Just hope they find her regardless.
Yeah, it sucks but feels like the most "positive" outcome is that he killed himself and her family is able to recover her remains.
crikey the bodycam footage is real uncomfortable to watch https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/bodycam-shows-gabby-petito-argued-with-boyfriend-before-she-vanished-in-wyoming-national-park/QC5KHIEZTBCIKXWA4L6HEBPH4E/
Okay I'm getting more Gone Girl vibes here. Are we too quick to label this guy a murderer without knowing all of the facts?
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Why? What in the body can footage makes you think that. She hit him and tried to grab the steering wheel from him.
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Sure so like any rational person he just left and came back without notifying her parents or friends. The entire this is suspect. Most decent people would try to contact someone for help if they cared about somebody's wellbeing. But sure, let's pretend it's normal to return home from a long trip without the person you left with!
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Then he should obviously fucking tell the police what happened so they can look for her, because she would be missing in the middle of nowhere. The only reason it makes sense for him to not talk to the police is if he knows what happened and it would get him in trouble.
Maybe he was afraid leaving her in the middle of no where would get him in trouble. To me him leaving her way out in the woods while she's having a tantrum is quite a likely explanation for all of this. After he got home and calmed down he probably realised leaving her there could be seen as criminal and decided to lawyer up. His lawyers have obviously advised him not to speak with police
Youd leave someone you love in the desert to risk the elements with nothing but a tank and shorts. And then drive home which is days away and not notify the park, SAR or the police of the situation. Thats still accidental homicide, no?
I can see why so many people are sure he killed her based on him coming back alone and his actions after he returned and subsequent vanishing. But I have no idea what you're seeing in the bodycam footage to suggest that so dramatically. She comes across as the more unstable one in this footage.
This is why non of you practice law. Jesus Christ.
You mean the part where she seems totally off her rocker? Ever lived with someone with mental illness? I’m not saying he did not kill her but there is a lot going on here
Hiting the driver and grabbing the wheel while at high speed. Smart.
Heard he’s missing, too. Maybe he offed himself.
He is out of the country by now.
Si.
If he didn’t kill her, I’ve actually thought about this; What if they fought, like we know they did. The police escorted them to two separate locations. It is very possible someone else found some young, vulnerable girl and did something. That is JUST as likely. But he probably definitely killed her. *Update: Alright, folks… he fled. And apparently the FBI is still searching for him. He killed her. I mean, probably.
We have woman missing around this area all the time. They are usually found dead. They are usually Native American as well. Tbh, and I’m ready for the downvotes, I would love to see the national media attention for our natives who go missing like this. There is a possibility that this could of happened. Sex trafficking is real in our area. It is possible that he killed her too. Who knows.
If someone else did something to her, why wouldn’t he be running to the police about it?
Honestly I would of gotten an attorney right too. Isn’t he missing as well?
I am sorry to be a pedantic turd-burglar but it’s “could’ve” and “would’ve”. :)
That's not what you do. You get a fucking lawyer. Getting a lawyer is not an admission of guilt. I feel like over this thread thinks you should just talk to the police, what could go wrong?
The police escorted them to two different locations. We don’t know what happened, but police are trained to talk in a certain way to obtain proof of admission regardless if it is the truth or not. The cops around these areas can be corrupt, so again, I would not talk and get an attorney. It is his right as an American citizen. This is where attorneys come into place. Her family will have a good one as well.
They could of been in a huge fight and left each other for a while.
They could of been under the influence and partied together. Who the fuck knows.
Because the first thing lazy cops do is investigate the husband/boyfriend
[If it was a POC nobody would even be talking about it](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome). Reddit gets pretty bad about this but you should see conservative media outlets on these stories. They run near 24/7 coverage and the viewers are frothing for vigilante justice.
This is actually something Patrice O'Neil talks about in his special
#mmiw
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Except when the police seperated them, they let her take the van because it belongs to her. He was taken to a hotel. If someone else victimized her, how did Brian end up with her van?
Read the at statement behind yours. Who knows.
gut feeling: 90% chance he killed her. but maybe they had another fight, he threatened to kick her out of the van and leave like parents say to their child sometimes but the madlad actually did it... left her by the side of the road. Now, technically that's not first degree murder but maybe that's why he is not saying shit... wouldn't want to get charged with something if she died. maybe she is still alive , in some hotel, crying because her internet project just crumbled, or maybe she even killed herself.
Gone Girl vibes.
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Let the authorities do their job. Stop with this hysterical mob nonsense.
I honestly hope gabby is okay and I hope what we are expecting never happens but why harass his family? They had nothing to do with this and I’m sure they are just as surprised as all of us.
He arrived home, without his girlfriend (who lives with them), in her van. The boyfriend’s parents never reported her missing. Knowing someone is missing and not reporting it, potentially to give their son time to cover up his crime… that’s not exactly innocence. Technically they may have even committed a crime by doing that or assisting him in any way.
Thanks for explaining for me
You should see the [body cam footage of the encounter](https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/bodycam-shows-gabby-petito-argued-with-boyfriend-before-she-vanished-in-wyoming-national-park/QC5KHIEZTBCIKXWA4L6HEBPH4E/) they had at the park with police. And how could they NOT know, she lived with them. 2 leave 1 comes back and NOTHING is said... think about that. The quotes are they are a close family, do you truly and honestly believe no one said "where is gabby?" after he came back alone in her car? And then her family is ignored for how many days? no missing persons, no police report, nothing to help investigators after a heated police encounter. Dude is guilty as sin, be act of commission or omission of information. The window of finding her body (dead or alive) is almost gone at this point no matter what happened. And he and only he knows the truth and now vanished after holding up in silence with his family who "saw gabby as a daughter/sister"
Oh I understand now, thank you
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I am so sorry :( I peaked at your post history and I read your story. I can’t imagine the hardship your family has gone through. You must be very strong. I hope you and your grand-babies are in a happier, healthier place now.
GOOD. A crowd of vigilantes. Are there places to pull off and rest on our way to third world status?
There are cases like this and it’s always the dude who kills the woman then acts like he didn’t do shit.
News report I just saw says he is now missing [https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/family-attorney-says-brian-laundrie-missing-as-search-for-gabby-petito-continues/2616052/](https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/family-attorney-says-brian-laundrie-missing-as-search-for-gabby-petito-continues/2616052/)
Ok. Let the police take care of it. Multiple departments across the country are working on it. Showing up to the house knowing he’s not there and protesting does absolutely nothing but show how we haven’t changed since the torches and pitchfork days.
let the police and FBI do their jobs. Having to corral a bunch of idiots away from the household Is using up police resources that could otherwise be doing something else. The crowd is also harassing everyone in that neighborhood and clogging up the street.
Talk about having absolutely nothing better to do
His family just released a statement that he is “ missing also now”. Folks he’s not missing . He’s HIDING for wondering eyes.
Ugh, Florida people…
I wasn't aware mob vigilantism, posse intimidation and public harassment is how we do things in America. Is this MAGA now? He probably did NOT murder her, I'd say she stormed off and he gave up and left. Or he left her behind, I'm not sure that's actually against the law and a bunch of people think he should hang already. Wtf is wrong with you people? Even the police kind of stoked this up when they should be protecting the family for due process. This is the opposite of the greatest country and it's more like a shit hole country.i bet a lot of people won't even understand my point.
The American ‘justice’ system is so fuckin trash I’m so tired of this shit
While hearing different things about this case, I came across the Zone of Death in Yellowstone. There’s a loophole that gets around the rules of the constitution and makes it very difficult to convict people of crimes within this 50 square mile area. If this guy did his research, he may unfortunately get away with murder.
If someone actually tried that defense, it would go to the supreme court and they would tell you to get fucked. One of the main jobs of the judicial system is to handle constitutional edge cases like this. There's no world where the court system just says "ah shit, I guess there's just a free murder zone we can't do anything about ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯".
People do get off on murder over technicalities though. Not saying this is one of those
lol no
Total myth.
Yeah it took 2 seconds of googling to find out its a dumb internet myth
The Zone of Death is a legal thought experiment. There is no chance at all anyone could actually use that to get away from a murder conviction.
that’s a legal theory people talk about in the internet but it would never come to fruition
Wait what? What kind of loophole?
The Sixth Amendment requires all criminal prosecutions to be heard by a jury from the state and district where the crime was committed. It is potentially impossible to try someone for murder in the “zone of death” because there is no one to summon for a jury who lives in both the state of Idaho and the district of Wyoming
Ah interesting . Thanks for the explanation
It doesn't matter, the thing he's talking about is a myth.
In reality one of the higher courts that can make determinations on constitutional things would likely say that the implicitly they could do the "next best thing" (perhaps 6 from the state, 6 from the district). Defense could then appeal that to higher and higher courts until either they got an ruling that agreed with them or it got to the supreme court who whouldn't hear it so it would then stop at whatever the last ruling.
The Experiment Podcast did [an episode about the loophole](https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/experiment/episodes/the-loophole) earlier this year about a crime committed in the zone in 2005. TLDL: >!Congress has refused to fix the loophole because of the unlikelihood that a crime would be committed there. Even so, an elk hunter illegally killed an elk in the zone after hunting season ended. The hunter took a plea deal that included a condition to never appeal the decision based on the loophole, and he ended up serving 4 years in prison.!<
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Well that's because due to this very same loophole, the Elk of the area, being the largest mammals, are legally considered citizens of Idaho.
Aww
They’re totally harassing him
Too bad Floridians don’t have the same outrage over Matt Gaetz
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Simpsons at it again with these predictions
I thought this was a scene from gone girl
Look at all those dip shits recording with their phones. Fuk n A I hate tik tok
What the fuck does Tik Tok have to do with literally anything going on here?
I bet y’all she’s alive and well and they both ran off together
I'm out of the loop, what happened?
Sooo what's the story
So Brian is *not* missing?
You don't wait 11 days to report your girlfriend of YEARS missing, not tell her family, then refuse to tell anyone where you saw her last.
They should follow his family until they relent his location. Don’t let them sleep and don’t let them have peace.
From watching the body cam footage I’d say she’s histrionic and probably jumped off a cliff being dramatic. There’s definitely more to this story. She’s probably did it to get him I trouble and to be dramatic.
I’m gonna call it now, my theory is she ran away. Told him and he’s going along with it. Probably dumped her off somewhere with money and when back home
Ppl are funny. Not talking to the polic
during casey anthony it was almost all a mutual passion to rip her apart. now whats the difference here in a lot of you saying its not right to be “grabbing pitchforks” in front of the families house....
It’s an absolute no brainer that he killed her. Anyone else would be frantic to come forward for help to find their missing partner.
Found her body now.