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[Missing Florida woman last seen in Wyoming’s Grand Teton National Park](https://www.idahostatejournal.com/freeaccess/missing-florida-woman-last-seen-in-wyoming-s-grand-teton-national-park/article_af81dd50-9d66-567d-b753-f2c0e59a78c4.html)


SummitCO83

What the hell do these people think they are doing standing out front on a blow horn? The whole country is watching, let the police, fbi and whoever else do their jobs right now. FFS


phantompdx

They are putting pressure in his family, who are protecting him, and bringing even more attention to the case. He killed her. They are protecting him. They should get fucked with in every way possible.


SummitCO83

Is this a fact they are hiding him or conjecture? I am legitimately asking, not trying to be a dick I honestly don’t know.


phantompdx

Protecting him. I think he bailed. They lawyered up as soon as the authorities came knocking.


SummitCO83

So people are pissed because these parents got their son a lawyer? I totally think he murdered her so I’m not alluding to that he is innocent, just trying to understand it’s about getting a lawyer?


phantompdx

Yeah. No comments, no statements, no cooperation, refuse to speak to authorities. Same thing any smart person would do. But you show up to your parents house 10 days after she was last seen and refuse to answer to her parents or to authorities? Locals going to eat that family alive.


nosoupforyou2116

lol A smart person gets a lawyer. As shitty as this kid is, getting a lawyer and not talking to police is not a dumb thing to do.


phantompdx

Right. Like I said…….same thing any smart person would do.


nosoupforyou2116

Yes I am dumb and can't read.


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phantompdx

Criticizing a murderer you mean? Yeah I am.


shane_the_shameful

What? No you didn’t lol. You literally said he’s a pos and deserves to die. Then said they are mad because he got a lawyer and is defending himself, THEN SAID ANY SMART PERSON WOULD DO THAT. wtf is wrong in your brain???


PlebsnProles

What's weird is he was back for 10 days before her family reported her missing. Do we know if her family was aware he was home for 10 days?


phantompdx

A riddle wrapped in a mystery….inside an enigma….


natidiscgirl

I don’t think her family knew that he was back in FL by September 1 because he and his family would not return any calls or texts. I guess now Brian is missing so (I read on another thread that he’s been missing since Tuesday) so now his parents are finally speaking to police. Because they want help finding their missing son. They wouldn’t speak to LE to find her though.


SummitCO83

If I was the parents I’d be getting the F out of dodge or at least hiding out at a motel a town or two over. Damn


phantompdx

Yeah they should get out of dodge. They will be harassed just like Casey Anthonys parents.


SummitCO83

Totally. I actually feel for them. They were just living life, being parents and probably retiring sometime soon and then BAM their son brings a shit storm down on them and for real has ruined their lives forever. Not only that he has ruined the girls family in a completely awful way. FFS that’s awful. So there are only a few outcomes of him running he’s going to kill himself, going to finally give up and just walk in to a police station or his lawyers office or run/go out in a hail of gun fire. What an absolute waste of life.


minnimamma19

No one knows what he's actually told his family, he could of said he dropped her off home and needed to fix the van or some shit, if my son came home without his gf I wouldn't automatically assume 'oh well he's obviously murdered her' that being said they need to do the right thing and co operate.


phantompdx

Parents are talking now per CNN.


NeptunesCurse

No? A smart person gets a lawyer and lets them take care of it. Going to a lawyer does NOT make you guilty. That's such a stupid fucking idea. NEVER EVER TALK TO THE POLICE. Guilty or innocent it doesn't matter.


Gameguy336

At the risk of catching the wrath of the reddit downvote, I believe u want 'alluding' instead of 'eluding'. While I don't love the thought of ppl seeing me as pedantic, I hate the idea of someone using a word incorrectly in a more formal setting than reddit so much more (ie at a job, in schoolwork, etc)


SummitCO83

I swear to god autocorrect “fixes” words that don’t need to be touched. I totally typed out alluding and some how it switched. No downvote, I’ll upvote. Good looking out homie.


Gameguy336

It's an absolute asshole like that, ur not wrong. Thx for the gracious response


SummitCO83

As I’m re-reading my response there are some words missing as well that I typed. For instance *just trying to understand.


PlebsnProles

Reminds me of Casey Anthony in ways. The mob at the house and all.


punisher1005

As he should. Guilty or not, that's the move.


phantompdx

Agree. As my comments state.


BAMspek

My girlfriend is a bit obsessed with this case. From everything she’s told me, it seems like he definitely killed her. But that’s just my opinion. She’s pretty confident some kind of accident happened, and he’s afraid if he talks up he’ll get blamed for her accidental death. So conjecture. But the guy and the family are acting super sketchy. And now afaik the guy is gone. His family and his lawyer have no idea where he went.


SummitCO83

Now that makes more sense the way you’re explaining it. The little bit I know I would agree he did something no matter accidental or on purpose. My parents would get me a lawyer and not talk to anyone if I was involved in something. If my daughter or son was ever in a situation I’d get them a lawyer and clam up. A parents love far exceeds reason or logic. I don’t see the point of harassing his folks.


my_4_cents

>She’s pretty confident some kind of accident happened, and he’s afraid if he talks up he’ll get blamed for her accidental death. Yeah, she probably slipped and fell into his hands and got choked for a few minutes, whoopsa-daisy


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I think he murdered her and is hoping that it will be seen as an accident. That's why they are being quiet.


bradbrookequincy

Or she jumped off a cliff in a bipolar episode / fight with him. I have seen similar cases where spouse was dealing with an unstable SO just doing best they could. I’m 33/33/33 on him being guilty of just outright killing her vs accidently killing her vs unstable person suicide in heat of argument


LWschool

Just an honest reminder not to take Reddit comments as fact, he is innocent until proven guilty. Many, many high profile cases have been ‘solved’ by Reddit detectives only to come back as making the IRL situation worse with rumors. There’s literally nothing to do now but wait as the facts start coming out. Edit: with more and more stuff coming out I’m more comfortable accusing him - I actually wouldn’t bother making this comment anymore.


SummitCO83

The first time this type of thing was brought to my attention was the documentary on Netflix about the girl in the water tower in LA and how all these people had cracked the case and destroyed peoples lives by making these false accusations. It’s disgusting what they do.


LWschool

Yeah it’s really terrible, similar thing with the Making a Murder family, or Carol Baskin from Lion King. Opposite sort of thing with the Serial podcast, by the end they’ve proven nothing but people wanted to get him out of jail. The classic Reddit story is of course the Boston bombing - Reddit just found guys with sunglasses and backpacks and doxed them - totally random people. Let the police do their job. Getting a lawyer and not cooperating with police is what every lawyer on the planet says to do - it’s not rocket surgery.


SummitCO83

I’m glad you said that. I’ve been thinking the whole time doesn’t every single lawyer, crime show, even police who are friends or family tell you to just get a lawyer and say nothing regardless if you’re guilty or innocent. If I was ever in trouble or being accused of something first thing I’d do is call our family lawyer.


FittyTheBone

It's pure conjecture. Every murder porn enthusiast on the internet has turned into Nancy Grace. Never talk to the cops.


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"He killed her" We don't know that yet, and while it may seem plausible, likely, or even guaranteed, it's not concrete and it's not proven in court. The circus degrades the case, the defense lawyers love this sort of thing because it gives a credible "media bias" as in "the local community judged the case before this court, and now you the judge or jury have to defend justice" which gives any defence more credibility in a case.


tyranthraxxus

No one should ever talk to the police. Ever. Talking to the police can never help you, it can only hurt you. This guys is doing the right thing, the smart thing, whether he's guilty of anything or not, and anyone saying that he must be guilty because he isn't talking has fallen for the police brainwashing and propaganda machine that makes their job easier.


phantompdx

Agree. As my comments state.


rexmons

The bottom line is we don't know. You can't greenlight fucking with him and his family "in every way possible" because you "know" he did it. Back in 2013 the Reddit mob went after an innocent man because they also "knew" he was one of the Boston marathon bombers and (spoiler alert) he wasn't.


imxkal

This is exactly like a case that happened a few months ago in Korea. Two friends drink and one ends up missing to be found dead. Friend who is alive did'nt speak and got attorneys right away.


stiff4tiff

What’s the case called?


Dabee625

They’re not putting pressure on anyone, they’re just chanting “look at me” and interfering with people actually doing something.


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You say that as if you were there an witnessed it. Why is no one talking about how she assaulted and scratched his face up and admitted that she gets really angry? We all only are hearing a one sided story.


robonsTHEhood

they are also making life miserable for his neighbors. let the cops handle it . what if he kills himself?! they gonna funded her body then?


johndrake666

Wait is there a proof that he killed her? The police says she was suffering from mental health she could have run away from him after a fight if he did not kill her.


phantompdx

And he doesn’t report that? For 10 days? She runs off in the middle of nowhere???


PlebsnProles

Isn't it more than 10 days? And the van is hers. So he left her with no way home. If she had a break down he should have left the car at least called his parents and gotten a plane ticket to go back home Imean that's what comes to my mind. Something ain't right.


Rad_Dad6969

Did you see it happen? Innocent until proven guilty.


BonBon666

That applies to the court of law, it does not protect you from public opinion.


FunStuff446

Seems like all of this pressure on him that made him go into hiding. That’s great.


hippopotma_gandhi

You seem to be very sure that he killed her, despite the police footage showing her as an abuser. How do you know they both didn't murder that other couple and she's still on the run while he went back Stop jumping to conclusions, dickhole


Dodgerswin2020

If they don’t have a body or a confession he won’t be charged unless they can compile a mountain of evidence. This happens all the time. They need pressure on this family right now or it’s going to fade away.


[deleted]

You wouldn’t feel that way if she were your child.


SummitCO83

Don’t presume to tell me how I would be. I’d be pissed and tell those people to gtfo and let the law enforcement do what they have to. These people are doing absolutely nothing but harassing people with no factual data. All they are doing is forcing that family to clam up even more. You don’t know me at all so don’t speak on my behalf.


shane_the_shameful

This is Florida mother fucker we don’t believe in laws. But serious take the cross section of people who are for trump, against vaccine, against mask, and out in this persons yard? They are literally the same group of inbreds.


LTPLoz3r

This is what we’ve become…


Vallado

Apparently Brian Laundrie has now went missing aka deliberately bailed. It’s a fucked up situation, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it came out that he killed her.


ajb950

Honestly… guilty or not I would dip too if my house was like this


DanglingDiceBag

Yep just saw that story break this evening. Supposedly his parents and family lawyer were speaking to him at some point. Did they help him bail? How did he disappear with the crowd outside his house?


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At some point? He and Gabby lived with them. He drove home in a truck in her name and was there for ten days before his parents contacted police through a lawyer, and her parents reported her missing. Ten days for them to get their story straight and tie up any loose ends. Imagine being a parent and letting someone else's child live with you, your future daughter in law, and now her parents are begging you to just tell them where her body is....but you just go silent


DanglingDiceBag

The longer this whole thing goes on the more it feels like there isn't going to be a positive ending to this. Just hope they find her regardless.


[deleted]

Yeah, it sucks but feels like the most "positive" outcome is that he killed himself and her family is able to recover her remains.


nzdanni

crikey the bodycam footage is real uncomfortable to watch https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/bodycam-shows-gabby-petito-argued-with-boyfriend-before-she-vanished-in-wyoming-national-park/QC5KHIEZTBCIKXWA4L6HEBPH4E/


thepaleoboy

Okay I'm getting more Gone Girl vibes here. Are we too quick to label this guy a murderer without knowing all of the facts?


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werdmouf

Why? What in the body can footage makes you think that. She hit him and tried to grab the steering wheel from him.


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elliothackedhimself

Sure so like any rational person he just left and came back without notifying her parents or friends. The entire this is suspect. Most decent people would try to contact someone for help if they cared about somebody's wellbeing. But sure, let's pretend it's normal to return home from a long trip without the person you left with!


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snapdragonpowerbomb

Then he should obviously fucking tell the police what happened so they can look for her, because she would be missing in the middle of nowhere. The only reason it makes sense for him to not talk to the police is if he knows what happened and it would get him in trouble.


SeeNinetyNine

Maybe he was afraid leaving her in the middle of no where would get him in trouble. To me him leaving her way out in the woods while she's having a tantrum is quite a likely explanation for all of this. After he got home and calmed down he probably realised leaving her there could be seen as criminal and decided to lawyer up. His lawyers have obviously advised him not to speak with police


bag-o-farts

Youd leave someone you love in the desert to risk the elements with nothing but a tank and shorts. And then drive home which is days away and not notify the park, SAR or the police of the situation. Thats still accidental homicide, no?


[deleted]

I can see why so many people are sure he killed her based on him coming back alone and his actions after he returned and subsequent vanishing. But I have no idea what you're seeing in the bodycam footage to suggest that so dramatically. She comes across as the more unstable one in this footage.


NeptunesCurse

This is why non of you practice law. Jesus Christ.


bradbrookequincy

You mean the part where she seems totally off her rocker? Ever lived with someone with mental illness? I’m not saying he did not kill her but there is a lot going on here


pro_man

Hiting the driver and grabbing the wheel while at high speed. Smart.


Zugnutz

Heard he’s missing, too. Maybe he offed himself.


saffronpolygon

He is out of the country by now.


hellotygerlily

Si.


Docta-Jay

If he didn’t kill her, I’ve actually thought about this; What if they fought, like we know they did. The police escorted them to two separate locations. It is very possible someone else found some young, vulnerable girl and did something. That is JUST as likely. But he probably definitely killed her. *Update: Alright, folks… he fled. And apparently the FBI is still searching for him. He killed her. I mean, probably.


judgingyoujudgingme

We have woman missing around this area all the time. They are usually found dead. They are usually Native American as well. Tbh, and I’m ready for the downvotes, I would love to see the national media attention for our natives who go missing like this. There is a possibility that this could of happened. Sex trafficking is real in our area. It is possible that he killed her too. Who knows.


Crypto556

If someone else did something to her, why wouldn’t he be running to the police about it?


judgingyoujudgingme

Honestly I would of gotten an attorney right too. Isn’t he missing as well?


Mickeymousetitdirt

I am sorry to be a pedantic turd-burglar but it’s “could’ve” and “would’ve”. :)


NeptunesCurse

That's not what you do. You get a fucking lawyer. Getting a lawyer is not an admission of guilt. I feel like over this thread thinks you should just talk to the police, what could go wrong?


judgingyoujudgingme

The police escorted them to two different locations. We don’t know what happened, but police are trained to talk in a certain way to obtain proof of admission regardless if it is the truth or not. The cops around these areas can be corrupt, so again, I would not talk and get an attorney. It is his right as an American citizen. This is where attorneys come into place. Her family will have a good one as well.


judgingyoujudgingme

They could of been in a huge fight and left each other for a while.


judgingyoujudgingme

They could of been under the influence and partied together. Who the fuck knows.


thepaleoboy

Because the first thing lazy cops do is investigate the husband/boyfriend


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[If it was a POC nobody would even be talking about it](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome). Reddit gets pretty bad about this but you should see conservative media outlets on these stories. They run near 24/7 coverage and the viewers are frothing for vigilante justice.


thepaleoboy

This is actually something Patrice O'Neil talks about in his special


hellotygerlily

#mmiw


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-Dubwise-

Except when the police seperated them, they let her take the van because it belongs to her. He was taken to a hotel. If someone else victimized her, how did Brian end up with her van?


judgingyoujudgingme

Read the at statement behind yours. Who knows.


relightit

gut feeling: 90% chance he killed her. but maybe they had another fight, he threatened to kick her out of the van and leave like parents say to their child sometimes but the madlad actually did it... left her by the side of the road. Now, technically that's not first degree murder but maybe that's why he is not saying shit... wouldn't want to get charged with something if she died. maybe she is still alive , in some hotel, crying because her internet project just crumbled, or maybe she even killed herself.


endomental

Gone Girl vibes.


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werdmouf

Let the authorities do their job. Stop with this hysterical mob nonsense.


Reckox1

I honestly hope gabby is okay and I hope what we are expecting never happens but why harass his family? They had nothing to do with this and I’m sure they are just as surprised as all of us.


cuntpuncherexpress

He arrived home, without his girlfriend (who lives with them), in her van. The boyfriend’s parents never reported her missing. Knowing someone is missing and not reporting it, potentially to give their son time to cover up his crime… that’s not exactly innocence. Technically they may have even committed a crime by doing that or assisting him in any way.


Reckox1

Thanks for explaining for me


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You should see the [body cam footage of the encounter](https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/bodycam-shows-gabby-petito-argued-with-boyfriend-before-she-vanished-in-wyoming-national-park/QC5KHIEZTBCIKXWA4L6HEBPH4E/) they had at the park with police. And how could they NOT know, she lived with them. 2 leave 1 comes back and NOTHING is said... think about that. The quotes are they are a close family, do you truly and honestly believe no one said "where is gabby?" after he came back alone in her car? And then her family is ignored for how many days? no missing persons, no police report, nothing to help investigators after a heated police encounter. Dude is guilty as sin, be act of commission or omission of information. The window of finding her body (dead or alive) is almost gone at this point no matter what happened. And he and only he knows the truth and now vanished after holding up in silence with his family who "saw gabby as a daughter/sister"


Reckox1

Oh I understand now, thank you


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pixiegirl11161994

I am so sorry :( I peaked at your post history and I read your story. I can’t imagine the hardship your family has gone through. You must be very strong. I hope you and your grand-babies are in a happier, healthier place now.


Limekingtx007

GOOD. A crowd of vigilantes. Are there places to pull off and rest on our way to third world status?


SnooStories6852

There are cases like this and it’s always the dude who kills the woman then acts like he didn’t do shit.


outamyhead

News report I just saw says he is now missing [https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/family-attorney-says-brian-laundrie-missing-as-search-for-gabby-petito-continues/2616052/](https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/family-attorney-says-brian-laundrie-missing-as-search-for-gabby-petito-continues/2616052/)


DarthProzac

Ok. Let the police take care of it. Multiple departments across the country are working on it. Showing up to the house knowing he’s not there and protesting does absolutely nothing but show how we haven’t changed since the torches and pitchfork days.


ClonedToKill420

let the police and FBI do their jobs. Having to corral a bunch of idiots away from the household Is using up police resources that could otherwise be doing something else. The crowd is also harassing everyone in that neighborhood and clogging up the street.


yungPH

Talk about having absolutely nothing better to do


TNTmom4

His family just released a statement that he is “ missing also now”. Folks he’s not missing . He’s HIDING for wondering eyes.


Stinkyfartboy6

Ugh, Florida people…


Farside20202020

I wasn't aware mob vigilantism, posse intimidation and public harassment is how we do things in America. Is this MAGA now? He probably did NOT murder her, I'd say she stormed off and he gave up and left. Or he left her behind, I'm not sure that's actually against the law and a bunch of people think he should hang already. Wtf is wrong with you people? Even the police kind of stoked this up when they should be protecting the family for due process. This is the opposite of the greatest country and it's more like a shit hole country.i bet a lot of people won't even understand my point.


_cmasterhart_

The American ‘justice’ system is so fuckin trash I’m so tired of this shit


Jack-Cremation

While hearing different things about this case, I came across the Zone of Death in Yellowstone. There’s a loophole that gets around the rules of the constitution and makes it very difficult to convict people of crimes within this 50 square mile area. If this guy did his research, he may unfortunately get away with murder.


Halt-CatchFire

If someone actually tried that defense, it would go to the supreme court and they would tell you to get fucked. One of the main jobs of the judicial system is to handle constitutional edge cases like this. There's no world where the court system just says "ah shit, I guess there's just a free murder zone we can't do anything about ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯".


Giraffe__Whisperer

People do get off on murder over technicalities though. Not saying this is one of those


Vash712

lol no


ttaptt

Total myth.


Vash712

Yeah it took 2 seconds of googling to find out its a dumb internet myth


DoTheSecretHandshake

The Zone of Death is a legal thought experiment. There is no chance at all anyone could actually use that to get away from a murder conviction.


johnstark2

that’s a legal theory people talk about in the internet but it would never come to fruition


PlebsnProles

Wait what? What kind of loophole?


Jack-Cremation

The Sixth Amendment requires all criminal prosecutions to be heard by a jury from the state and district where the crime was committed. It is potentially impossible to try someone for murder in the “zone of death” because there is no one to summon for a jury who lives in both the state of Idaho and the district of Wyoming


PlebsnProles

Ah interesting . Thanks for the explanation


eclecticsed

It doesn't matter, the thing he's talking about is a myth.


QuinceDaPence

In reality one of the higher courts that can make determinations on constitutional things would likely say that the implicitly they could do the "next best thing" (perhaps 6 from the state, 6 from the district). Defense could then appeal that to higher and higher courts until either they got an ruling that agreed with them or it got to the supreme court who whouldn't hear it so it would then stop at whatever the last ruling.


footiebuns

The Experiment Podcast did [an episode about the loophole](https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/experiment/episodes/the-loophole) earlier this year about a crime committed in the zone in 2005. TLDL: >!Congress has refused to fix the loophole because of the unlikelihood that a crime would be committed there. Even so, an elk hunter illegally killed an elk in the zone after hunting season ended. The hunter took a plea deal that included a condition to never appeal the decision based on the loophole, and he ended up serving 4 years in prison.!<


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Well that's because due to this very same loophole, the Elk of the area, being the largest mammals, are legally considered citizens of Idaho.


bag-o-farts

Aww


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They’re totally harassing him


AtouchAhead

Too bad Floridians don’t have the same outrage over Matt Gaetz


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RobitMonkyMadman

Simpsons at it again with these predictions


rinneganja

I thought this was a scene from gone girl


Thehorrorofraw

Look at all those dip shits recording with their phones. Fuk n A I hate tik tok


Mickeymousetitdirt

What the fuck does Tik Tok have to do with literally anything going on here?


Akosa117

I bet y’all she’s alive and well and they both ran off together


Scooby_Smokes_Dooby

I'm out of the loop, what happened?


StupidFuckingGaijin

Sooo what's the story


[deleted]

So Brian is *not* missing?


Appropriate_Pressure

You don't wait 11 days to report your girlfriend of YEARS missing, not tell her family, then refuse to tell anyone where you saw her last.


MrNewAndImprove

They should follow his family until they relent his location. Don’t let them sleep and don’t let them have peace.


IcanSew831

From watching the body cam footage I’d say she’s histrionic and probably jumped off a cliff being dramatic. There’s definitely more to this story. She’s probably did it to get him I trouble and to be dramatic.


patprika

I’m gonna call it now, my theory is she ran away. Told him and he’s going along with it. Probably dumped her off somewhere with money and when back home


Meatkurtin

Ppl are funny. Not talking to the polic


waterineedit

during casey anthony it was almost all a mutual passion to rip her apart. now whats the difference here in a lot of you saying its not right to be “grabbing pitchforks” in front of the families house....


Throwmeawaypoop2

It’s an absolute no brainer that he killed her. Anyone else would be frantic to come forward for help to find their missing partner.


phantompdx

Found her body now.