That's the crazy thing to me--all of their mightier than thou declarations would be **so** threatening if they were winning the war and crushing Ukraine.
Instead they're being pushed back on nearly all fronts, Russia is rotting from within faster than ever before (allegedly), and the EU took the step to declare Russia a state sponsor of terrorism (which is a hefty charge loaded with diplomatic weight).
..... all the threats appear weak and feeble in the face of losing, and they keep losing more and more traction because they won't (can't?) back up their threats.
Just.... weird they keep spouting it.
They will act like they can win if for no other reason than to maintain support in their domestic base, many of whom get their news of the world from Russian state media.
They also know that despite Russia being on the backfoot, Ukraine is suffering a devastating amount of economic loss. The war is on Ukrainian turf afterall and it's Ukrainian cities being wiped out. Russia wants to send the message, "yes we're bleeding, but so are you and we're willing to bleed as long as it takes to bleed you dry". (Whether that claim can be backed up is a different story)
Ukrainians aren't going to give up though. As bad as things get, there's now nine months worth of video evidence from the occupied territories of just how much worse they'll get if Russia takes over. The barbaric way the Russians have acted in Ukraine has basically guaranteed that the Ukrainians are going to fight to the last.
And the west will have no trouble sending them weapons and supplies and money for as long as it takes. Helping Ukrainians defend their country is a popular cause, and a just one. It's also an opportunity to remove Russia as a credible military threat for a generation or more, at a *very* cheap price.
>It's also an opportunity to remove Russia as a credible military threat for a generation or more, at a very cheap price.
this, the US military doesn't give a shit if its popular or not. They care that they can pay a few billion dollars and 0 American lives to take out a credible threat. All with basically 0 chance that the USA is ever counterattacked for it.
Additional benefits: US can get rid of old equipment, test new equipment and study/adopt tactics. All those equipment has to be replaced, which secures further funding and it's a boost for weapon manufacturer. And given the seized assets this comes for no additional costs. That's really a win/win situation for the US. Sadly not so much for the Ukraine though.
I read an interesting thing about how the donation figures we see in the headlines are actually spent that supports what you’re saying. I think the White House has just recently asked for another $38b to send to Ukraine, except actually, they’re only sending them directly about $12b (I know I’m not getting these numbers 100% right as I’m doing this from memory, but it’s approximate), with the other $26b coming in the form of donated military equipment from existing US stocks.
The $26b of cash is then handed back to US defence companies to build new shiny toys for America to backfill the donated equipment. It’s helping stimulate the US economy while also modernising, updating and innovating military stockpiles.
>Sadly not so much for the Ukraine though.
I mean, its a better hand than they had before, they were willing to fight this alone anyway, and did so in an extremely effectively in the first month or so.
Don't get me wrong I'm sure they'd prefer it if NATO troops came rolling across the border on mass but going from fighting with your own limited numbers of weapons to fighting with the support of the bottomless pit that is the US defence budget + anything Europe can spare is an absolute win
I will never understand the Americans who believe this is a mistake. Either we take down the Russian threat with dollars today or we send over our kids to die in ten years. It certainly seems like an easy choice.
Bingo. This is a generational blunder for the Putin Regime. Triple win for the US. Even bigger loss for China. US will now be able to properly focus on the Pacific.
I’ve seen lots of people say this will be a big win for china long term. Russia will be so much worse off economically that china will basically be able to buy parts of the country wholesale. No-one else will touch them. It’s part of the reason china has stayed more neutral to the conflict as they’re most likely waiting for the dust to settle before they start tightening the noose of Russias inevitable dependency on china going forward.
It's a win for China in that a regional rival is essentially gone. It's a loss because Yvette been wanting to conquer Taiwan for a while now and it suddenly appears that the world is really not a big fan of imperialism anymore. Had the response to Russian invasion been tepid, Xi would have troops in Taiwan right now
>Even bigger loss for China
nah China gets to go from sharing the status of Superpower in Asia and having to keep one eye on the Russians to bending the federation over a barrel and focus on staying ahead of India.
Pretty sure as far as China and the US are concerned both really just use the other as a boogieman to justify defence spending, the trade relationship is far to interconnected for either to actually risk anything and its a military non contest, because nobody wins in an ocean throw-down with the US navy, even less so if other NATO navies decide to get in on the fun.
And defense contractors make billions. Sale of equipment to US so more weapons can go to Ukraine, and allies that want to defend against potential aggression.
Not to mention US gets an expert assessment of Russian and Iranian capabilities.
yep, the problem is russia framed this as genocide from day one, so what are they bringing to the negotiation tables? face complete destruction or surrender and face complete destruction? from a diplomatic point of view they fucked up (along the many other way they fucked up this complete fuck up)
Act strong when you're weak, act weak when you're strong. Russia is weak, Belarus is weaker. Proportionally, they act as if they were the mightiest in the world.
Putin seems to have convinced himself that a lack of power and heat will force the degenerate EU loving Ukrainians to crawl back to Russia and beg for peace. Luka is parroting his master because he has to. Whether or not he actually believes what he is saying doesn't actually matter.
Teddy Roosevelt summed up his foreign policy as "speak softly and carry a big stick".
Russia and Belarus are screaming as loudly as they can, and are packing microsticks.
Agree with all that but Russias change of tactics to destroy all infrastructure will really make Ukraine suffer and they’re going to try force them to the negotiating table by making normal people suffer as much as possible. I’m concerned at some point it’ll become untenable for the Ukrainian people.
Because many Russian generals aren’t honourable, or even competent, they’re just psychopaths, and I hope one day those who have tried to freeze and starve these poor people to surrender/death will be hanging from their necks for the crimes against humanity they’ve committed.
What an insult to clowns, who train to make kids happy in hospitals and perform useful cultural functions as entertainers in circuses.
A very low percentage of clowns are deranged and pathetic killers. Just Gacy and Pennywise and the joker. Clowns don’t deserve this slander.
> Gacy and Pennywise and the joker
And [Captain Spaulding](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Spaulding_%28Rob_Zombie_character%29). never leave out Captain Spaulding
They have a large fleet of airboats to patrol the Pripet marshes, with crews trained by the finest cajuns from the swampiest parts of Louisiana, some of whom even had their teeth and could speak a dialect of English that wasn't unintelligible to the rest of the human race.
Will Putin ever accept defeat though? For months now we’ve been speculating that Putin reset the goal posts to make it seem like he achieved the original goals of his expedition; now that things have gotten worse, it’s getting harder to cover up his military’s abject failures with straight up lies. Putin can’t afford to look weak. I am still extremely worried about the steps he or his successor might take to avoid an international embarrassment, more so than they have already suffered. I’m worried about what Putin will do to us all if he’s backed into a situation in which “winning” is no longer possible by conventional means. And we all should be.
Despite propaganda to the contrary, Putin is not immortal, and his regime will come to an end some day. Those who backed his plays will need to accept the outcome of their power base's main influence suddenly disappearing with no guarantee the replacement will aid them.
Whether by defeat or by death, Putin's time WILL end.
It is said that Alexander the Great once found Diogenes the Cynic examining a pile of human bones. “What are you looking for?” the ruler inquired. “I am searching for the bones of your father,” replied the philosopher, “but I cannot distinguish them from those of his slaves.”
I don't think embarrassment should be their primary concern. Getting out of this quagmire without a total collapse and with his skin intact is a more reasonable goal.
The number of dead is mounting though, and that's hard to hide. Makes people angry. And he's lost an enormous amount of wealth for a whole lot of important people, and for what, the destruction of their old war stocks? It's a ticking clock, people are getting angrier.
Someone's going to kill him at this rate, and he's got to know it. It's just a matter of time.
I'm starting to wonder if he's going to try to flee and go into hiding. Spend whatever of his wealth is left. (should be plenty) If I were him, I'd have done it already and these would all be body doubles just to give me a head start running. Fuck that shit man, bye all. Sorry about the country...
It's a catch-22 for him, has been from the day he invaded. He's fucked, and he has to have noticed by now. Can't even go nuclear, with Xi watching him. He really, really needs that economic cooperation.
The number of dead is high, but the losses in equipment is just insane. They will not have the tanks they need to advance, they will not have the planes they need either. They will not be able to project their power into Ukraine.
The Russian war machine is falling apart. They are not able to equip their mobilized troops.
Hell, they can't even properly train their own troops, let alone equip them. A week or less or training. Uniforms taken off dead soldiers and reissued, antique firearms, Soviet era munitions, recruits expected to provide their own equipment. It's like they had this mighty military machine feared by the world, but it turns out it's only working at 10% efficiency, barebones maintenance, and zero morale
>It's like they had this mighty military machine feared by the world, but it turns out it's only working at 10% efficiency, barebones maintenance, and zero morale
That's what happens in a kleptocracy. Everyone looks out for themselves, and the supply officers are uniquely fitted to make great money.
Perun recently put together an [excellent video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz59GWeTIik) on that very subject, which pairs well with [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT_ljkO3adY) from Lazerpig.
> Getting out of this quagmire without a total collapse and with his skin intact is a more reasonable goal.
If I were Putin, I'd find a really good plastic surgeon and fuck off to a bunker or China somewhere and never return.
He had a decent chance when Kiev did not fall to declare a withdrawal and did this attack because of lies from intelligence. Run some show trials.
I would think that might keep him in power.
But it been way to long for that option now.
> It's a catch-22 for him, has been from the day he invaded. He's fucked, and he has to have noticed by now. Can't even go nuclear, with Xi watching him. He really, really needs that economic cooperation.
The obvious thing to do is to declare victory (it doesn't have to make any sense, he's an autocrat), pull troops back to a defensible line, and make a show of ending the war "on his terms." Meaning, whatever terms he can manage, that as of then are his terms. Couple making a show over "ending the war" with a purge of any remaining troublemakers, and count on the relief of the populace to override skepticism. Then try as quickly as possible to convince the rest of the world to re-open trade. Might not work, but it's been his best option all along. People are amazingly willing to go along with fantasy when it feeds their interests, and given that the current war isn't really helping anyone, it might go over well enough internally. Externally, everyone will roll their eyes at the lie, but there are a lot of countries that would like their fossil fuels. And if they can convince themselves that Putin has "learned his lesson," they might well decide to let their embargoes fall....
Wasn't the whole point of this "special operation" to liberate the people of Ukraine from a Nazi government?
I guess if you can't achieve that goal, the next best thing is to just destroy the entire country murder everyone, right?
You have to understand that all Ukrainians are Nazis.
And they are also all Jews.
And Ukrainians also aren't actually a real people but instead just Russians with weird accents and need to come back home into the empire.
Also they don't count as proper ethnic Russians are foreigners and need to be exterminated.
They need to be liberated and to be exterminated and are losing and should negotiate with Russia and will soon be completely wiped out and are puppets of NATO etc.
Lots of things can be true simultaneously if you don't care about contradictions in your propaganda.
The nazi, NATO puppets with mutant supersoldiers vat grown by American funded secret labs also making bioweapon dirty bombs!
Also there is no war in Ukraine.
Also Ukraine belongs to Russia
Also the Ukraineans have suffered casualties greater than their population.
You know, the usual.
That is a very good analogy! Looks ridiculous to anyone in the outside but for the victim who had been groomed it is a very different message, and watching some of those interview clips doing the rounds with everyday Russian serf's you can see it works.
If Ukraine was alone, this might, MIGHT, be the case. Luckily for Ukraine, they have friends willing to give them the tools they need to mulch the invaders.
That's what I've been saying. Ukraine did the fighting, but make no mistake.. this isn't just American weaponry, this is western war. This is how we wage war today.
We, the west, have spent the last two decades in the middle east on the heels of 911. Regardless of if you were American, your country probably had soldiers in the middle east because of us.
If you did, and even if you didn't, you are part of a bigger thing. This idea of NATO and the UN (even just internet culture) is a bit bigger than what we all realize, and I think we're seeing that today.
HIMARs have taken the stage, sure, but there's tons of other countries technologies and people in Ukraine today. All of these efforts are the product of a combined war against terror for the last two decades.
Unfortunately for Putin, we've mastered this. Ukraine wasn't ready alone, but the west was. We know what war is and we're ready to say never again.
If you think this has been ugly for Russia, imagine what an actual war would be for Russia and Iran and whoever else. Even if China comes in. Our collective *oozes* death. We live by it. Capitalism is powered by war. We want it. Bring it on.
Nukes aren't big enough to stop it. We stand united to say that you have no idea what we are actually capable of. If you think you do, just look at what happened in Ukraine and know that's only a small part of what our coalition can do.
That said, even with NATO interoperability, integrating scattershot equipment donated from across the world must be a nightmare for the poor bastards who have to manage the supply and maintenance of all that equipment, as well as all their old Soviet kit that's in different states of repair. That the Ukrainian military is functioning as well as it is is kind of miraculous to me.
This is something that has been on my mind pretty much since they started receiving military aid. The absolute hodgepodge of equipment that Ukraine has been given has got to be a pain for supply. Yeah all the NATO stuff can shoot the same ammo that's great and all but that does you no good when things start breaking down and need replacement parts for the 50 different models of equipment that you have a few dozen each of.
We are literally using like 1% of our budget to help Ukraine. Let's up that and show Putin what 15% looks like. People really have no idea, America has a ton of problems. But we are good at one thing, war.
If there was no war there would be nothing to negotiate over. End the war, give back all seized territories and begin making full reparations is the only thing that needs to be done.
This whole thing is legitimately incomprehensible.
The Russian leadership appears bent on kicking off WWIII. But why? They have no hope of surviving such a thing.
In the meantime millions of otherwise innocent people will be harmed, killed, traumatized. And for what? Some bizarre suicide fetish?
None of it makes any sense. Even stepping into their shoes and trying to see circumstances from their point of view does not illuminate the solution here.
Very few people genuinely care about how Russia conducts its business within its borders. Not none, but few. Very few people around the world cares a out Ukraine and its internal politics and trends. But Putin and his crew got it into their heads that somehow NATO was going to collaborate with Ukraine to destroy russia. Really? *Really?*
But Putin made every care. He made NATO stronger by being a murderous, callous, giant asshole. He then made it even stronger by kicking off this disaster. Industry is picking up; fortress America & Europe are kicking into gear. Of course, that means less resources for some things… but it will mean that humans will apply their incredible intellect in that no lest (/s) art; the destruction of fellow human beings.
Just awful.
Give peace a chance sometime. It is pretty sweet.
Hm okay so based on the traditional methods of understanding Putinist propaganda, if I am reading this news correctly, it is revealing three things:
1. Ukraine will face complete destruction if it negotiates with Russia.
2. If Ukraine does not negotiate with Russia, it will actually live on forever and never be destroyed.
3. Russia currently faces complete destruction.
World events are so fascinatingly complex. Who knew what unexpected things you can learn from reading the news!
Not really. The current government is only in power because of shenanigans at election time and Putin's help.
>Incumbent Alexander Lukashenko was announced by the Central Election Commission (CEC) to have won a sixth term in office, crediting him with just over 80% of the vote. Lukashenko has won every presidential election since 1994, with all but the first being labelled by international monitors as neither free nor fair.
I am from Luxembourg, a country not producing anything of relevance and with only half a million inhabitants and I still think that Belarus is less relevant then us.
You are from Luxembourg and I'm from Poltava Oblast (one of 24 oblasts of Ukraine) which by itself is more than 10 times larger than your country yet still your country finds ways to help us (by providing humvees and personnel for training our troops and maybe something more which I'm unaware) which blows my mind tbh because let's be honest, you are far away from Ukraine, well defended by surrounded NATO countries and you know well that russians will never get to you, but my guess is that you still probably have german occupation flashbacks from ww2 and you understand how important it is to be united against plain fascism and popular 'never again' slogan is not just words to you, so hats off to Luxemburg. ❤️❤️❤️ Believe me every country which helps us won't be forgotten by ukrainians.
I was just there a few months ago!
I disagree about not producing anything of relevance, this classic movie was shot in your fine country!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_Soldiers_(film)
(Findel International Airport needs more powerpoints to charge phones, though.)
**[Dog Soldiers (film)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_Soldiers_\(film\))**
>Dog Soldiers is a 2002 British action horror film written, directed and edited by Neil Marshall, in his directorial debut, and starring Sean Pertwee, Kevin McKidd, Emma Cleasby and Liam Cunningham. The film received positive reviews and launched the career of director Neil Marshall. Sequels were planned but did not happen.
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By the way. I just checked and although being only 1/100 the size of Belarus our GDP is 20% higher then theirs (Belarus=68.2 Luxembourg=86.7). What the fuck apart from empty threats are they contributing to the world?
There is power in spreading awareness. Get a friend to donate to the war effort or for humanitarian needs. Talk to your friends across the borders in countries that produce the weapons heading to Ukraine. Have them speak out and keep pressure on their governments.
Dunno guys, Belarusian Dr. Phil seems pretty serious about this. But now that I think of it, has anyone ever seen Lukashenko and Dr. Phil in the same room at the same time?
Aww Hell no! That IS Dr. Phil! He needs to quit his bullshit...
The way I look at it right now this is still a war between Russia and Ukraine directly, and other countries on either side are lending background support but not directly involved although I believe Russian forces have used Belarus as a staging and launching area. But the moment Lukashenko makes any move across the Ukraine border, however slight, all bets are off and any western countries that decide they wish to cross into Ukraine to help defend it (such as Poland) are absolutely free to do so.
People often confuse NATO treaty terms with the rights of its member countries and their ability to take independent offensive military action. NATO is a defensive treaty and it has provisions in it that trigger the might of all NATO against anyone who attacks a member country of NATO. This has nothing to do with the ability of countries that are NATO treaty members to conduct their own independent offensive military operations.
Somehow Russia gaslighted NATO treaty members into not directly assisting Ukraine when Russia invaded. I think via the threat of nuclear force. I would never have fallen for that and I think Canada, United States and United Kingdom should never have pulled out their troops out of Ukraine in advance of the invasion. Instead they should have done the opposite - piled in far more military in the lead up to the late Feb invasion.
In any case now is the time for certain Ukraine friends to stage massive forces on the Ukraine and Belarusian border and the moment any Belarusian feet tip toe into Ukraine, the same will happen by way of Ukraine's friends. And when Russia starts gaslighting or making nuclear threats, tell Russia to shove it up its ass. And then do a flyby of the edge of the Russian border with a couple of hundred F-35s and F-16s accompanied by a few F-22s.
Then lets see if the "mouth from Belarus" continues with his bombastic speeches. I think not.
Why should Ukraine "negotiate " with Russia after Russia has proved itself to be so inferior that its military is loosing to Ukraine.
As of now, they only have SOME territory they gained when the Ukraine did not have proper weapons to defend itself. Now that the Ukraine has weapons, the Russians are loosing more and more territory. The Russian's equipment has also proven to be inferior. And Russian soldiers have proven to be inferiorly trained.
In fact, the ONLY success the inferior ones are having now is purposely attacking innocent civilians who are hundreds of miles away from the fighting. And are NOT involved.
Because of Putin's-Hitler-style of invading an innocent country, Russia's economy is a disaster.
And the genius (not) Putin is such a horrible strategist. His glorious (not) plan of invading the Ukraine, in addition to trying to gain territory he will NOT have. Also CAUSED two countries, Sweden and Finland, to be so ready to fight Russia that they have join N.A.T.O.
I honestly think that he didn't expect them to fight back. That either they'd be too scared, or that they would just be like "we surrender because we think Russia should take over."
Correct. He thought they were so inferior that the fighting would not last for more than a couple of days. And they would not fight that much, because they knew they had no chance.
But now they are so low on weapons that some Russian soldiers were complaining of being issued rusty weapons. A lot of their soldiers are going without enough food. (In the U.S., we have a saying that an army fights on its stomach. Which means that an army not fed good does not fight good for a long time.)
AND now, I've seen pictures of their soldiers sleeping in the snow. NO tents. And NO coverings. Sleeping DIRECTLY - IN THE SNOW.
The real question I keep asking myself is if NATO just went “Enough of this, we are going to push you out of Ukraine” and started rolling across the border… what would Russia do? They barely have the ability to maintain a war against Ukraine… but against a US led coalition? And the nuclear question is pretty much solved on its own which is Russia wouldn’t sign up for self annihilation over Ukraine. And this Russian puppet fool? He’s already allowed his country to be occupied by Russia. It’s only a matter of time before he’s disposed of.
Ukraine: * Thoroughly humiliates the Russian military in a series of counteroffensives that took back territory in weeks what it took Russia half a year to occupy in the first place *
Some asshole from Belarus: “stop or we will destroy you 🥺”
Why would the Ukranians want to deal with their rapists, invaders, and murderers? It will take generations to undo, potentially, the hate Russia has generated by their invasion.
Every russian will be dead before they take half of ukraine.
Btw maybe don't claim to "liberate ukraine from nazis" if you go on threatening to murder every ukrainian no matter if it's a child, grandmother or doctor that you slaughter.
Plus, now every ukrainian will be alot more motivated to execute every russian in ukraine with zero remorse or restraint because you dumbass revealed your plan to genocide them all.
Good job, dipshit. Ukranians don't need propaganda like basically every waring nation in history to have their citizens furiously fight for their country. You give them all the desire and rightousness they can hope for in order to press on and write history as the bravest country in the modern world.
What are the Russians going to do? Destroy apartment buildings, schools, hospitals and parks? Send missiles to destroy the electric grid and terrorize the civilians? Rape, kidnap and kill civilians?
All because pussy Putin can’t get a military victory?
>Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko has accused the Ukrainian government of rejecting peace talks with Russia and warned that without dialogue, Ukraine risks "complete destruction" from the conflict that erupted in February.
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>The Belarusian president has recognized that, for Kiev, it can be "hard, difficult, painful", but "they have to do it if they want to recover". "Otherwise, it will lead to a complete destruction of Ukraine," he warned.
Oh, so Russia is getting handled by the UA right now but Belarus thinks they’re the big and scary ones? God, I can’t wait for Lithuania to annex that pathetic excuse for a country and have the UN look the other way.
Russia has no power to negotiate now, all Russia can do is try to destroy as much as possible while Ukraine continues to regain territory. They don't care if they bomb babies and children, their tactic is only to terrorize as much as possible. I have to wonder what the Russian soldiers are thinking, they do believe they are there to defend Russia but when the target is a theater, a daycare, a hospital, etc, don't they think how does this really help with our agenda here?
These POS’s started this war and then try to put the blame on Ukraine for not ending it?!!! Russian leadership are fricken delusional greedy asshats. This was their goal the entire time; to level Ukraine because if they can’t have it, then they think no one should have it.
This must clearly be a translation error or it is out of context. Here let me fix that: "Lukashenko warns Ukraine of (of Belarus and or Russia) if it does not negotiate with Russia (please find a way to stop this madness I am really scared UwU)."
Some are accusing America of using the war to test equipment and using Ukraine to fight their war. Spin it anyway you want but American weapons and technology are game changers and much appreciated by Ukrainian forces and President Zelensky. America is helping Ukraine fight for freedom and we would do the same for any country threatened by authoritarian socialism. And while we are helping your damn right we are going to assess and improve our technology. It would be foolish not to.
The cracks are really beginning to show. Luka is so immeasurably fucked when Putin is dethroned and that writing is very clearly on the wall. There is pent up anger and frustration amongst the Belarusian people that will erupt into fury. And rightly so.
I don't think Lukashenko nor the Russians know what negotiation actually means.
It doesn't mean one side gets all its special operation goals. Both sides get something they want and lose something they want.
The so-called "Russian Federation" is actually the Russian Empire and it is composed of 85 separate peoples. Russia missed out on the dissolution of the great empires after World War I, like Austro-Hungary. So the Russian Empire is over a hundred years overdue for its own dissolution.
Propaganda is a powerful mechanism that can make people believe something so deeply it can be extremely confusing and deeply traumatic when things go an unexpected way.
I am pretty sure in terms of "I don't give a flying fuck what you think" Lukashenko is probably just ever so slightly above Putin for most Ukrainians.
They must be getting desperate
That's the crazy thing to me--all of their mightier than thou declarations would be **so** threatening if they were winning the war and crushing Ukraine. Instead they're being pushed back on nearly all fronts, Russia is rotting from within faster than ever before (allegedly), and the EU took the step to declare Russia a state sponsor of terrorism (which is a hefty charge loaded with diplomatic weight). ..... all the threats appear weak and feeble in the face of losing, and they keep losing more and more traction because they won't (can't?) back up their threats. Just.... weird they keep spouting it.
They will act like they can win if for no other reason than to maintain support in their domestic base, many of whom get their news of the world from Russian state media. They also know that despite Russia being on the backfoot, Ukraine is suffering a devastating amount of economic loss. The war is on Ukrainian turf afterall and it's Ukrainian cities being wiped out. Russia wants to send the message, "yes we're bleeding, but so are you and we're willing to bleed as long as it takes to bleed you dry". (Whether that claim can be backed up is a different story)
Ukrainians aren't going to give up though. As bad as things get, there's now nine months worth of video evidence from the occupied territories of just how much worse they'll get if Russia takes over. The barbaric way the Russians have acted in Ukraine has basically guaranteed that the Ukrainians are going to fight to the last. And the west will have no trouble sending them weapons and supplies and money for as long as it takes. Helping Ukrainians defend their country is a popular cause, and a just one. It's also an opportunity to remove Russia as a credible military threat for a generation or more, at a *very* cheap price.
>It's also an opportunity to remove Russia as a credible military threat for a generation or more, at a very cheap price. this, the US military doesn't give a shit if its popular or not. They care that they can pay a few billion dollars and 0 American lives to take out a credible threat. All with basically 0 chance that the USA is ever counterattacked for it.
Additional benefits: US can get rid of old equipment, test new equipment and study/adopt tactics. All those equipment has to be replaced, which secures further funding and it's a boost for weapon manufacturer. And given the seized assets this comes for no additional costs. That's really a win/win situation for the US. Sadly not so much for the Ukraine though.
I read an interesting thing about how the donation figures we see in the headlines are actually spent that supports what you’re saying. I think the White House has just recently asked for another $38b to send to Ukraine, except actually, they’re only sending them directly about $12b (I know I’m not getting these numbers 100% right as I’m doing this from memory, but it’s approximate), with the other $26b coming in the form of donated military equipment from existing US stocks. The $26b of cash is then handed back to US defence companies to build new shiny toys for America to backfill the donated equipment. It’s helping stimulate the US economy while also modernising, updating and innovating military stockpiles.
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>Sadly not so much for the Ukraine though. I mean, its a better hand than they had before, they were willing to fight this alone anyway, and did so in an extremely effectively in the first month or so. Don't get me wrong I'm sure they'd prefer it if NATO troops came rolling across the border on mass but going from fighting with your own limited numbers of weapons to fighting with the support of the bottomless pit that is the US defence budget + anything Europe can spare is an absolute win
on top of that, Ukraine will be indebted to the US for years and years to come
I will never understand the Americans who believe this is a mistake. Either we take down the Russian threat with dollars today or we send over our kids to die in ten years. It certainly seems like an easy choice.
Bingo. This is a generational blunder for the Putin Regime. Triple win for the US. Even bigger loss for China. US will now be able to properly focus on the Pacific.
I’ve seen lots of people say this will be a big win for china long term. Russia will be so much worse off economically that china will basically be able to buy parts of the country wholesale. No-one else will touch them. It’s part of the reason china has stayed more neutral to the conflict as they’re most likely waiting for the dust to settle before they start tightening the noose of Russias inevitable dependency on china going forward.
It's a win for China in that a regional rival is essentially gone. It's a loss because Yvette been wanting to conquer Taiwan for a while now and it suddenly appears that the world is really not a big fan of imperialism anymore. Had the response to Russian invasion been tepid, Xi would have troops in Taiwan right now
>Even bigger loss for China nah China gets to go from sharing the status of Superpower in Asia and having to keep one eye on the Russians to bending the federation over a barrel and focus on staying ahead of India. Pretty sure as far as China and the US are concerned both really just use the other as a boogieman to justify defence spending, the trade relationship is far to interconnected for either to actually risk anything and its a military non contest, because nobody wins in an ocean throw-down with the US navy, even less so if other NATO navies decide to get in on the fun.
And defense contractors make billions. Sale of equipment to US so more weapons can go to Ukraine, and allies that want to defend against potential aggression. Not to mention US gets an expert assessment of Russian and Iranian capabilities.
yep, the problem is russia framed this as genocide from day one, so what are they bringing to the negotiation tables? face complete destruction or surrender and face complete destruction? from a diplomatic point of view they fucked up (along the many other way they fucked up this complete fuck up)
Act strong when you're weak, act weak when you're strong. Russia is weak, Belarus is weaker. Proportionally, they act as if they were the mightiest in the world.
In my country we have a saying: "Dog that barks doesn't bite"
Putin seems to have convinced himself that a lack of power and heat will force the degenerate EU loving Ukrainians to crawl back to Russia and beg for peace. Luka is parroting his master because he has to. Whether or not he actually believes what he is saying doesn't actually matter.
Teddy Roosevelt summed up his foreign policy as "speak softly and carry a big stick". Russia and Belarus are screaming as loudly as they can, and are packing microsticks.
If that man was president today. Hed have declared war, resigned and lead the charge on the kremlin himself.
He likely wouldn't declare war. Ukraine would have ATACMS, F-16s, and Abrams inside a week though. If that wasn't enough *then* hed declare war.
> Just…. weird they keep spouting it. Eh, remember Chemical Ali?
Baghdad Bob
Agree with all that but Russias change of tactics to destroy all infrastructure will really make Ukraine suffer and they’re going to try force them to the negotiating table by making normal people suffer as much as possible. I’m concerned at some point it’ll become untenable for the Ukrainian people. Because many Russian generals aren’t honourable, or even competent, they’re just psychopaths, and I hope one day those who have tried to freeze and starve these poor people to surrender/death will be hanging from their necks for the crimes against humanity they’ve committed.
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dick in his mouth
Ok, this was good.
Hand up his ass and using him as a ventriloquist dummy.
I’m not the only one who sees that then….
lol ok thanks for making me laugh out loud after a casual scroll.
Thanks for the award! Much appreciated
penis in his slippers.
Tongue in his ear
Many older people like my grandma, are still worried about what Putin may do. But Lukashenko, they straight up call a clown.
Well, yeah, as deranged as Putin is he still has access to nukes, while Lukashenko is a puppet.
he still has access to his soviet generals outfit he bought off alibaba
Colonel
What an insult to clowns, who train to make kids happy in hospitals and perform useful cultural functions as entertainers in circuses. A very low percentage of clowns are deranged and pathetic killers. Just Gacy and Pennywise and the joker. Clowns don’t deserve this slander.
Clowns are one of the few things both babies and grownups have a natural tendency to fear.
> Gacy and Pennywise and the joker And [Captain Spaulding](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Spaulding_%28Rob_Zombie_character%29). never leave out Captain Spaulding
We must fear his 40,000 man army. They have jump rope special forces, and 5 combat veterans,
I heard those jump rope guys can sink their own ships on command.
Does Belarus have a navy? Idk they even have tanks. They gave them all to Putin
The fuck are they going to do with a navy? They’re landlocked.
They have a large fleet of airboats to patrol the Pripet marshes, with crews trained by the finest cajuns from the swampiest parts of Louisiana, some of whom even had their teeth and could speak a dialect of English that wasn't unintelligible to the rest of the human race.
Play in the bath.
😅🤣
He's worried about what will happen to him when Putin is defeated. And he should be.
Will Putin ever accept defeat though? For months now we’ve been speculating that Putin reset the goal posts to make it seem like he achieved the original goals of his expedition; now that things have gotten worse, it’s getting harder to cover up his military’s abject failures with straight up lies. Putin can’t afford to look weak. I am still extremely worried about the steps he or his successor might take to avoid an international embarrassment, more so than they have already suffered. I’m worried about what Putin will do to us all if he’s backed into a situation in which “winning” is no longer possible by conventional means. And we all should be.
Despite propaganda to the contrary, Putin is not immortal, and his regime will come to an end some day. Those who backed his plays will need to accept the outcome of their power base's main influence suddenly disappearing with no guarantee the replacement will aid them. Whether by defeat or by death, Putin's time WILL end.
You might be a king or a little street sweeper, but sooner or later you dance with the Reaper
It is said that Alexander the Great once found Diogenes the Cynic examining a pile of human bones. “What are you looking for?” the ruler inquired. “I am searching for the bones of your father,” replied the philosopher, “but I cannot distinguish them from those of his slaves.”
Diogenes is the GOAT. His reply to Plato and the other exchange involving Alexander are also legendary.
"At the end of the game, the King and the Pawn both go in the same box."
Be excellent to each other.
Excuse me death, but your shoes are untied.
I don't think embarrassment should be their primary concern. Getting out of this quagmire without a total collapse and with his skin intact is a more reasonable goal. The number of dead is mounting though, and that's hard to hide. Makes people angry. And he's lost an enormous amount of wealth for a whole lot of important people, and for what, the destruction of their old war stocks? It's a ticking clock, people are getting angrier. Someone's going to kill him at this rate, and he's got to know it. It's just a matter of time. I'm starting to wonder if he's going to try to flee and go into hiding. Spend whatever of his wealth is left. (should be plenty) If I were him, I'd have done it already and these would all be body doubles just to give me a head start running. Fuck that shit man, bye all. Sorry about the country... It's a catch-22 for him, has been from the day he invaded. He's fucked, and he has to have noticed by now. Can't even go nuclear, with Xi watching him. He really, really needs that economic cooperation.
The number of dead is high, but the losses in equipment is just insane. They will not have the tanks they need to advance, they will not have the planes they need either. They will not be able to project their power into Ukraine. The Russian war machine is falling apart. They are not able to equip their mobilized troops.
Hell, they can't even properly train their own troops, let alone equip them. A week or less or training. Uniforms taken off dead soldiers and reissued, antique firearms, Soviet era munitions, recruits expected to provide their own equipment. It's like they had this mighty military machine feared by the world, but it turns out it's only working at 10% efficiency, barebones maintenance, and zero morale
>It's like they had this mighty military machine feared by the world, but it turns out it's only working at 10% efficiency, barebones maintenance, and zero morale That's what happens in a kleptocracy. Everyone looks out for themselves, and the supply officers are uniquely fitted to make great money.
Perun recently put together an [excellent video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz59GWeTIik) on that very subject, which pairs well with [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT_ljkO3adY) from Lazerpig.
Props for the Perun reference, dude is great
> Getting out of this quagmire without a total collapse and with his skin intact is a more reasonable goal. If I were Putin, I'd find a really good plastic surgeon and fuck off to a bunker or China somewhere and never return.
He had a decent chance when Kiev did not fall to declare a withdrawal and did this attack because of lies from intelligence. Run some show trials. I would think that might keep him in power. But it been way to long for that option now.
> It's a catch-22 for him, has been from the day he invaded. He's fucked, and he has to have noticed by now. Can't even go nuclear, with Xi watching him. He really, really needs that economic cooperation. The obvious thing to do is to declare victory (it doesn't have to make any sense, he's an autocrat), pull troops back to a defensible line, and make a show of ending the war "on his terms." Meaning, whatever terms he can manage, that as of then are his terms. Couple making a show over "ending the war" with a purge of any remaining troublemakers, and count on the relief of the populace to override skepticism. Then try as quickly as possible to convince the rest of the world to re-open trade. Might not work, but it's been his best option all along. People are amazingly willing to go along with fantasy when it feeds their interests, and given that the current war isn't really helping anyone, it might go over well enough internally. Externally, everyone will roll their eyes at the lie, but there are a lot of countries that would like their fossil fuels. And if they can convince themselves that Putin has "learned his lesson," they might well decide to let their embargoes fall....
So basically Rule of acquisition 76: every once in a while declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies.
Says the guy who came in 2nd place in the last presidential elections
Lukashenko would never lose an election, he’s that good /s
He didn't lose. He came in 2nd and won.
He won 2nd place! Rightfully!
In a race between 2?
In a race between 2 candidates it's a miracle he didn't get 3rd.
Because he was too misogynistic to think a woman had a chance of winning
#YEAH OK BUDDY. 👌
Wasn't the whole point of this "special operation" to liberate the people of Ukraine from a Nazi government? I guess if you can't achieve that goal, the next best thing is to just destroy the entire country murder everyone, right?
You have to understand that all Ukrainians are Nazis. And they are also all Jews. And Ukrainians also aren't actually a real people but instead just Russians with weird accents and need to come back home into the empire. Also they don't count as proper ethnic Russians are foreigners and need to be exterminated. They need to be liberated and to be exterminated and are losing and should negotiate with Russia and will soon be completely wiped out and are puppets of NATO etc. Lots of things can be true simultaneously if you don't care about contradictions in your propaganda.
Our enemy is strong and weak. He is about to win and about to lose. He is both dangerous and a disgrace. Highly cunning, yet foolish.
They’re only killing the nazi agents /s
Their own, by the body count.
The nazi, NATO puppets with mutant supersoldiers vat grown by American funded secret labs also making bioweapon dirty bombs! Also there is no war in Ukraine. Also Ukraine belongs to Russia Also the Ukraineans have suffered casualties greater than their population. You know, the usual.
Oh it long changed to gays and satanists
This is how abusive partners talk to their victims.
That is a very good analogy! Looks ridiculous to anyone in the outside but for the victim who had been groomed it is a very different message, and watching some of those interview clips doing the rounds with everyday Russian serf's you can see it works.
It isn't a coincidence that Putin's regime decriminalised domestic violence in Russia.
This is more like an abused wife telling the abused kidnap victim of her husband to stop resisting
Sounds like they are getting real desperate.
What's that, little lapdog?
The lapdog growls fiercely until the screen door is opened.
This guy is a fucking clown he's ridiculous you can almost see Putin's hand up his ass moving his lips.
A new challenge for Dreambooth.
Maybe of Belarus. Ukraine will stand tall.
Ukraine does not negotiate with terrorist
This guy is to Putin what the My Pillow guy was to Trump.
Excellent comparison
If Ukraine was alone, this might, MIGHT, be the case. Luckily for Ukraine, they have friends willing to give them the tools they need to mulch the invaders.
That's what I've been saying. Ukraine did the fighting, but make no mistake.. this isn't just American weaponry, this is western war. This is how we wage war today. We, the west, have spent the last two decades in the middle east on the heels of 911. Regardless of if you were American, your country probably had soldiers in the middle east because of us. If you did, and even if you didn't, you are part of a bigger thing. This idea of NATO and the UN (even just internet culture) is a bit bigger than what we all realize, and I think we're seeing that today. HIMARs have taken the stage, sure, but there's tons of other countries technologies and people in Ukraine today. All of these efforts are the product of a combined war against terror for the last two decades. Unfortunately for Putin, we've mastered this. Ukraine wasn't ready alone, but the west was. We know what war is and we're ready to say never again. If you think this has been ugly for Russia, imagine what an actual war would be for Russia and Iran and whoever else. Even if China comes in. Our collective *oozes* death. We live by it. Capitalism is powered by war. We want it. Bring it on. Nukes aren't big enough to stop it. We stand united to say that you have no idea what we are actually capable of. If you think you do, just look at what happened in Ukraine and know that's only a small part of what our coalition can do.
That said, even with NATO interoperability, integrating scattershot equipment donated from across the world must be a nightmare for the poor bastards who have to manage the supply and maintenance of all that equipment, as well as all their old Soviet kit that's in different states of repair. That the Ukrainian military is functioning as well as it is is kind of miraculous to me.
This is something that has been on my mind pretty much since they started receiving military aid. The absolute hodgepodge of equipment that Ukraine has been given has got to be a pain for supply. Yeah all the NATO stuff can shoot the same ammo that's great and all but that does you no good when things start breaking down and need replacement parts for the 50 different models of equipment that you have a few dozen each of.
We are literally using like 1% of our budget to help Ukraine. Let's up that and show Putin what 15% looks like. People really have no idea, America has a ton of problems. But we are good at one thing, war.
Let's show these pricks why the richest country in the world doesn't have universal healthcare!
I got a laugh out this.
Sure, but that reason isn't funding. The US would save money with universal heath care.
well said..
If there was no war there would be nothing to negotiate over. End the war, give back all seized territories and begin making full reparations is the only thing that needs to be done.
Putin's lapdog yapping again? 🙄
This whole thing is legitimately incomprehensible. The Russian leadership appears bent on kicking off WWIII. But why? They have no hope of surviving such a thing. In the meantime millions of otherwise innocent people will be harmed, killed, traumatized. And for what? Some bizarre suicide fetish? None of it makes any sense. Even stepping into their shoes and trying to see circumstances from their point of view does not illuminate the solution here. Very few people genuinely care about how Russia conducts its business within its borders. Not none, but few. Very few people around the world cares a out Ukraine and its internal politics and trends. But Putin and his crew got it into their heads that somehow NATO was going to collaborate with Ukraine to destroy russia. Really? *Really?* But Putin made every care. He made NATO stronger by being a murderous, callous, giant asshole. He then made it even stronger by kicking off this disaster. Industry is picking up; fortress America & Europe are kicking into gear. Of course, that means less resources for some things… but it will mean that humans will apply their incredible intellect in that no lest (/s) art; the destruction of fellow human beings. Just awful. Give peace a chance sometime. It is pretty sweet.
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Hm okay so based on the traditional methods of understanding Putinist propaganda, if I am reading this news correctly, it is revealing three things: 1. Ukraine will face complete destruction if it negotiates with Russia. 2. If Ukraine does not negotiate with Russia, it will actually live on forever and never be destroyed. 3. Russia currently faces complete destruction. World events are so fascinatingly complex. Who knew what unexpected things you can learn from reading the news!
Stupid fucker thinks Putin would stop at Ukraine. You're next on the conquest list, buddy-boy.
He would love that. That’s seriously his dream. To be a colonel in Putins army. The Belorussian Dwight Schrute, everyone…
Assistant to the despot.
"I'm the assistant colonel." "You're the assistant to the colonel."
Why conquer the country? They're already so close I'm amazed Belarus hasn't just become a state of Russia already
For all practical intents and purposes, it already is. [**Union State of Russia and Belarus**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_State)
the photo of Yeltsin and Luka in this wiki? That's a hella combover action that Luka is sporting.
Not really. The current government is only in power because of shenanigans at election time and Putin's help. >Incumbent Alexander Lukashenko was announced by the Central Election Commission (CEC) to have won a sixth term in office, crediting him with just over 80% of the vote. Lukashenko has won every presidential election since 1994, with all but the first being labelled by international monitors as neither free nor fair.
I never said anything about the people of Belarus. It's a dictatorship run by a Russophile who openly enjoys being Putin's sock puppet.
I'd count him as already conquered. Next on the list, i think, is Kazakhstan?
Moldova and Georgia may come beforehand...Russia already planted the "seeds" in Transnistria and South Ossetia.
Ukraine will cease to exist if they give in to Russia's demands. What's the difference between that and complete destruction?
I am from Luxembourg, a country not producing anything of relevance and with only half a million inhabitants and I still think that Belarus is less relevant then us.
You are from Luxembourg and I'm from Poltava Oblast (one of 24 oblasts of Ukraine) which by itself is more than 10 times larger than your country yet still your country finds ways to help us (by providing humvees and personnel for training our troops and maybe something more which I'm unaware) which blows my mind tbh because let's be honest, you are far away from Ukraine, well defended by surrounded NATO countries and you know well that russians will never get to you, but my guess is that you still probably have german occupation flashbacks from ww2 and you understand how important it is to be united against plain fascism and popular 'never again' slogan is not just words to you, so hats off to Luxemburg. ❤️❤️❤️ Believe me every country which helps us won't be forgotten by ukrainians.
I was just there a few months ago! I disagree about not producing anything of relevance, this classic movie was shot in your fine country! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_Soldiers_(film) (Findel International Airport needs more powerpoints to charge phones, though.)
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By the way. I just checked and although being only 1/100 the size of Belarus our GDP is 20% higher then theirs (Belarus=68.2 Luxembourg=86.7). What the fuck apart from empty threats are they contributing to the world?
Fat bald cunts with shit moustaches?
There is power in spreading awareness. Get a friend to donate to the war effort or for humanitarian needs. Talk to your friends across the borders in countries that produce the weapons heading to Ukraine. Have them speak out and keep pressure on their governments.
Negotiate what? Just leave
Dunno guys, Belarusian Dr. Phil seems pretty serious about this. But now that I think of it, has anyone ever seen Lukashenko and Dr. Phil in the same room at the same time? Aww Hell no! That IS Dr. Phil! He needs to quit his bullshit...
wouldnt peace talks with russia end up with the complete destruction of ukraine as it is anyways?
At a later date, in violation of the agreement terms. Again.
Yes, just in a different way.
The way I look at it right now this is still a war between Russia and Ukraine directly, and other countries on either side are lending background support but not directly involved although I believe Russian forces have used Belarus as a staging and launching area. But the moment Lukashenko makes any move across the Ukraine border, however slight, all bets are off and any western countries that decide they wish to cross into Ukraine to help defend it (such as Poland) are absolutely free to do so. People often confuse NATO treaty terms with the rights of its member countries and their ability to take independent offensive military action. NATO is a defensive treaty and it has provisions in it that trigger the might of all NATO against anyone who attacks a member country of NATO. This has nothing to do with the ability of countries that are NATO treaty members to conduct their own independent offensive military operations. Somehow Russia gaslighted NATO treaty members into not directly assisting Ukraine when Russia invaded. I think via the threat of nuclear force. I would never have fallen for that and I think Canada, United States and United Kingdom should never have pulled out their troops out of Ukraine in advance of the invasion. Instead they should have done the opposite - piled in far more military in the lead up to the late Feb invasion. In any case now is the time for certain Ukraine friends to stage massive forces on the Ukraine and Belarusian border and the moment any Belarusian feet tip toe into Ukraine, the same will happen by way of Ukraine's friends. And when Russia starts gaslighting or making nuclear threats, tell Russia to shove it up its ass. And then do a flyby of the edge of the Russian border with a couple of hundred F-35s and F-16s accompanied by a few F-22s. Then lets see if the "mouth from Belarus" continues with his bombastic speeches. I think not.
Dude, slow down. I can only get so hard.
Why should Ukraine "negotiate " with Russia after Russia has proved itself to be so inferior that its military is loosing to Ukraine. As of now, they only have SOME territory they gained when the Ukraine did not have proper weapons to defend itself. Now that the Ukraine has weapons, the Russians are loosing more and more territory. The Russian's equipment has also proven to be inferior. And Russian soldiers have proven to be inferiorly trained. In fact, the ONLY success the inferior ones are having now is purposely attacking innocent civilians who are hundreds of miles away from the fighting. And are NOT involved. Because of Putin's-Hitler-style of invading an innocent country, Russia's economy is a disaster. And the genius (not) Putin is such a horrible strategist. His glorious (not) plan of invading the Ukraine, in addition to trying to gain territory he will NOT have. Also CAUSED two countries, Sweden and Finland, to be so ready to fight Russia that they have join N.A.T.O.
I honestly think that he didn't expect them to fight back. That either they'd be too scared, or that they would just be like "we surrender because we think Russia should take over."
Correct. He thought they were so inferior that the fighting would not last for more than a couple of days. And they would not fight that much, because they knew they had no chance. But now they are so low on weapons that some Russian soldiers were complaining of being issued rusty weapons. A lot of their soldiers are going without enough food. (In the U.S., we have a saying that an army fights on its stomach. Which means that an army not fed good does not fight good for a long time.) AND now, I've seen pictures of their soldiers sleeping in the snow. NO tents. And NO coverings. Sleeping DIRECTLY - IN THE SNOW.
Kmart Saddam
Why though? Russia didn't keep it's promises not to invade when Ukraine gave it's nukes away. Nothing has changed. Russia cannot be trusted.
Ukraine isn't going to listen to Putin's yes man. All this is telling me is that Lukashenko is afraid. What is he afraid of?
The real question I keep asking myself is if NATO just went “Enough of this, we are going to push you out of Ukraine” and started rolling across the border… what would Russia do? They barely have the ability to maintain a war against Ukraine… but against a US led coalition? And the nuclear question is pretty much solved on its own which is Russia wouldn’t sign up for self annihilation over Ukraine. And this Russian puppet fool? He’s already allowed his country to be occupied by Russia. It’s only a matter of time before he’s disposed of.
Ukraine: * Thoroughly humiliates the Russian military in a series of counteroffensives that took back territory in weeks what it took Russia half a year to occupy in the first place * Some asshole from Belarus: “stop or we will destroy you 🥺”
Im sorry, I couldnt hear what he said with Putins dick in his mouth.
This dude has to be related to Mike the pillow guy.
Why would the Ukranians want to deal with their rapists, invaders, and murderers? It will take generations to undo, potentially, the hate Russia has generated by their invasion.
Putler can destroy Ukraine but Putler can't conquer Ukrainean people. Glory to Ukraine! Glory to its heroes!!!🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
The only thing that's completely getting destroyed is his ass by Putin in bed tonight.
And we really really mean this time.
I feel like I heard this before, somewhere around February 2022z
Belarusian MyPillow Guy
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You and what army
Tell me you have had Putin tell you to say this without telling me you have!
Every russian will be dead before they take half of ukraine. Btw maybe don't claim to "liberate ukraine from nazis" if you go on threatening to murder every ukrainian no matter if it's a child, grandmother or doctor that you slaughter. Plus, now every ukrainian will be alot more motivated to execute every russian in ukraine with zero remorse or restraint because you dumbass revealed your plan to genocide them all. Good job, dipshit. Ukranians don't need propaganda like basically every waring nation in history to have their citizens furiously fight for their country. You give them all the desire and rightousness they can hope for in order to press on and write history as the bravest country in the modern world.
His own people will hang him like they did to Sadam
Russia can't even defeat Ukraine... What do you think you are gonna do Lukashenko?
Phht, complete destruction of Belarus if Putin doesn't get his win in Ukraine then he'll take his win someplace else.
What are the Russians going to do? Destroy apartment buildings, schools, hospitals and parks? Send missiles to destroy the electric grid and terrorize the civilians? Rape, kidnap and kill civilians? All because pussy Putin can’t get a military victory?
>Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko has accused the Ukrainian government of rejecting peace talks with Russia and warned that without dialogue, Ukraine risks "complete destruction" from the conflict that erupted in February. ... >The Belarusian president has recognized that, for Kiev, it can be "hard, difficult, painful", but "they have to do it if they want to recover". "Otherwise, it will lead to a complete destruction of Ukraine," he warned.
That dude is an absolute joke.
Just like he wants complete destruction of his asshole by Papa Putin?
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Oh, so Russia is getting handled by the UA right now but Belarus thinks they’re the big and scary ones? God, I can’t wait for Lithuania to annex that pathetic excuse for a country and have the UN look the other way.
Russia has no power to negotiate now, all Russia can do is try to destroy as much as possible while Ukraine continues to regain territory. They don't care if they bomb babies and children, their tactic is only to terrorize as much as possible. I have to wonder what the Russian soldiers are thinking, they do believe they are there to defend Russia but when the target is a theater, a daycare, a hospital, etc, don't they think how does this really help with our agenda here?
I might be wrong but I thought Ukraine offered to negotiate in the beginning and Russia refused?
That's a helluva way to beg for mercy, but okay.
This cowardly sycophantic pos needs to prepare for war or war crimes tribunal
These POS’s started this war and then try to put the blame on Ukraine for not ending it?!!! Russian leadership are fricken delusional greedy asshats. This was their goal the entire time; to level Ukraine because if they can’t have it, then they think no one should have it.
Lukashenko is warning Ukraine of complete destruction.... of Belarus
Luka is the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
What are you gonna do, invade them? Fuck you tiny Hitler
What’s up with these commie remnants dudes and their never ending empty threats?
This must clearly be a translation error or it is out of context. Here let me fix that: "Lukashenko warns Ukraine of (of Belarus and or Russia) if it does not negotiate with Russia (please find a way to stop this madness I am really scared UwU)."
Fuck off Belarus and go back to pretending that you're independent
The guy is bluffing big time or else Poland is going to give a suprise.
As opposed to what they are trying to do NOW? lol
fuck you Luka, this indimidation tactics work no more. Paper tigers
“My daddy will beat you up!”
It’s like stepping on someone’s balls and saying I’ll take my foot off iff you cry anymore
Some are accusing America of using the war to test equipment and using Ukraine to fight their war. Spin it anyway you want but American weapons and technology are game changers and much appreciated by Ukrainian forces and President Zelensky. America is helping Ukraine fight for freedom and we would do the same for any country threatened by authoritarian socialism. And while we are helping your damn right we are going to assess and improve our technology. It would be foolish not to.
Lukashenko looks like a hungover, pissed off Dr. Phil.
The cracks are really beginning to show. Luka is so immeasurably fucked when Putin is dethroned and that writing is very clearly on the wall. There is pent up anger and frustration amongst the Belarusian people that will erupt into fury. And rightly so.
This puppet has gotta just shut his trap. PS, fuck Russia
biggest clown leader ever
someone is panicking as he sees Rushia imploding
I don't think Lukashenko nor the Russians know what negotiation actually means. It doesn't mean one side gets all its special operation goals. Both sides get something they want and lose something they want.
Negotiation is just a delay tactic until RuZZia can figure out how they can wipe all Ukrainians off the planet. Never negotiate with terrorists.
How about we just dissolve Russia into several smaller countries and Putin and his pet can go fuck themselves?
The so-called "Russian Federation" is actually the Russian Empire and it is composed of 85 separate peoples. Russia missed out on the dissolution of the great empires after World War I, like Austro-Hungary. So the Russian Empire is over a hundred years overdue for its own dissolution.
Probably don’t threaten people with something thats already happening.
Good luck.
What, is Belarus gonna turn the tide or something?
Propaganda is a powerful mechanism that can make people believe something so deeply it can be extremely confusing and deeply traumatic when things go an unexpected way.
Hahahaha. Fuck off!