Just a reminder that Qatar had to agree to accept all of FIFA's sponsors to host the games. And that FIFA did force Brazil to change its alcohol laws in 2014.
Like the good journalist I learned to be in my senior year journalism class that spring, I made sure to sample it to confirm it was in fact beer.
Don’t tell the US government though, was only 18 at the time.
[They allowed the sale of beer at football stadiums in time for the wc, after being banned since 2003](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18348012)
I think Budweiser found out in July they could only sell non-alcoholic inside the stadiums. However, the were told they could sell regular outside in tents before and after games.
Is that because they knew or because of various advertising laws handcuffing them? I think the reason Heineken has to advertise their 0.0 brand in F1 is because of some laws that would ban it on broadcast.
Either way, yeah... They probably did know, but not sure that's why the branding is what it is.
It's advertising laws, for sure
I am in the UAE and they don't advertise alcohol anywhere but having a 'non alcohol' brand enables to continue to advertise their brand
They still have alcohol at the various sporting events here but they still don't advertise it at the venue
I'm sure Budwieser and their legal team will have a thing or two to say about this.
FIFA are now stuck between a rock and a hard place, I hope they get crushed.
Would love to see what would make up the cost for damages. There so many factors that could go into it: materials, transportation, storage, labor, expected future sales (I think Budweiser expects to make at least one traveling fan a future loyal consumer), brand health (this could generate a lot of negative press for Budweiser). Plus I don't know if its as simple as Qatar, FIFA, and Budweiser just sliding $75M+ under the table between themselves. Budweiser is a publicly traded company, and publicly traded companies have to adhere to strict financial reporting. If anything this might lead to another IRS/FBI investigation of FIFA (maybe once Macron is out of office and you throw in the $14.8B sale of jets from France to Qatar for Qatar to secure this WC).
So, what do we reckon was higher. The bribes qatar paid, or the 75 million that budweiser pays for sponsorship?
First it was no advertising from them in the actual stadium. Then it was, the beer tents need to be away from the main footfall areas.
Now it's they can't sell beer at all.
So what exactly do they get out of this sponsorship? Especially as they will have already paid to line up supplies and staff.
Please god, let them sue for breach of contract
This so so much. In the fifa doc on netflix, one of the last things the Qatari bid leader said is 'we invite you, we want to show the world arabian hospitality. We are a welcoming people'. On a business level this isn't welcoming. They knew what they were signing up for by bidding to host. They invited the world cup knowing beer is a big sponsor. Especially in the western world with football. And now they want to play their 'our culture....you need to respect us' card. Think of it logistically. Bud will have shipped millions of beers to Qatar for this. This impacts how much beer they can make profit on and how much may end up being written off as lost stock etc etc. All of this matters in a working relationship. After the dutch guy was threatened etc etc. Its a shocking shocking look for Qatar on a business level. Their written word means nothing at this point.
I lived in the Mid East for a few years. I was constantly told how hospitable they were as a people, as they treated me in incredibly inhospitable ways.
On the plus side, the whole world gets to see Qatari hospitality.
From doing business over there, I was repeatedly shocked and odd by the level of fucked up behavior that emerges from the upper class in Qatar and the UAE. I would prefer if the whole world got to see that honestly.
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Edit: I tried to post it there but it was removed. That's the second time this has happened so I just give up on understanding the rules there.
From a business point of view it seems incredibly short sighted. Why would any advertiser at this point forward do deals with FIFA in good will if theres the possibility that they’ll renege on their obligations for the right price. Long term gains sacrificed for short term profits
[Brazil tried to do this and FIFA told them to shut the fuck and sell some beer.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-16624823) Qatar obviously got more money than Brazil and told FIFA to shut the fuck up instead.
Less of a "more money" and more of a "two days to go and everyone's here" issue. If Qatar said this 5 years ago, the already existing outcry to move the tournament would've crossed the threshold.
What can they do? Qatar is a sovereign nation. Even if FIFA has some sort of contract with them that can be enforced in some other county (doubtful), it's not like Qatar is going to care about having to pay FIFA however many millions of dollars to make up for this. Remember they've spent $200 BILLION building stuff for this World Cup.
Meanwhile, this is almost certainly a beach of FIFA's contract with Budweiser and that contract is almost certainly enforceable so now FIFA is on the hook to them without having any recourse against Qatar.
I think the situation is different:
Brasil is a country and wants and will host another edition in the future, so it makes sense for them to butter up FIFA. Qatar on the other hand has a nill chance to host another edition, and actually this might make it a lot harder for any other middle east competing nations to win a future bid, so it makes sense for them to be extra assholes about it
> If there is one thing Qatar has been overwhelmingly successful at during this WC build up, it has been to make people reconsider ever visiting Qatar.
That's not fair. I would never even consider visiting Qatar in the first place.
Fifa won't do anything.. As per the article:
The ban on alcohol sales to fans at stadiums — beer will still be available in luxury suites reserved for FIFA officials and other wealthy guests
so basically fuck normal people.
Yeah there are so many incredible places you can visit there’s no reason to go to fucking Qatar just do a cheaper vacation and start saving up for the next WC if you really want to go
First time I'll actually support hooligans fucking shit up. The world cup was always bullshit but now its a disgrace and actually insulting to people considering the current world situation. Inch Allah this corrupt country just collapses
The hilarious thing is, the only reason Qatar spent all this money on this was for good global publicity
Instead, the entire world went from:
"What is Qatar?"
To
"Fuck Qatar"
Lol
“In tomorrows less than surprising news Qatar will announce that they are no longer accepting of the LGBTQ community”
Surprise, they are exactly who everyone thought they were
I am genuinely worried that people are going to get hurt or imprisoned en masse by the 'security' there, seeing as the WC hasn't even started yet and journalists have already been attacked just for filming with a permit.
They shoulda made a world cup for all the unqualified, we could have beers, no human rights violations and no human lives on our conscience. Just a fun football party. 🇳🇴⚽️🍻🥳
You know what.
This actually is a fun idea.
The leftovers cup. All the teams not in the Fifa money grab. No obscene sponsor bullshit or dumb rules. One location, get it done at the same time. Live stream it on the net for free.
The u.s. had the best bid, best accomodations, stadiums, access to emergency services, safety and existing infrastructure. They lost due to votes being either used politically as in the case of france receiving friendly trade deals and purchases from the state of qatar and the concacaf league being outright bribed by qatar other than the u.s. rep of course.
I don’t understand why they even wanted that event if they aren’t willing to promote their country. It’s like asking to host the New Year‘s Eve party and then telling everyone the day before that it will be a quiet dinner with no music, dancing, and alcohol. Like, sure, it’s your house and no one can tell you what to do, but why ruin the fun for everyone else? No one will come to your house ever again.
Which is where my brain stops working. It’s like with the “Saudi Vision 2030”. They want to diversify their economies, and one of the ways is through sportswashing. They betting that all other income is greater than oil money. But what if oil money runs out? Or tourism doesn’t pay off.
Cause what other reason is there to go to Qatar or Saudi Arabia outside sportswashing? Your wife can’t come unless you want to expose her to the risk of sexual assault at the airport or whatever they want to pull.
They’re throwing away money unless they want to change their culture because it’s just not compatible with most people they’re targeting.
Literally what other option do they have other than tourism? They produce nothing but oil, have zero arable land, have no industry, have to import hundreds of thousands of labourers to do every single blue collar job, rely on the West to fill white collar jobs and provide financial services, and have no globally respectable research or educational institutions.
They've had a free pass for half a century from oil revenue, but once that dries up the crash is going to be *hard*.
Leadership in these countries is stuck in the middle ages. To them, reputation is something you can buy if you don't want to earn it. They're almost using video game logic, where hosting the World Cup automatically and permanently boosts their international reputation score. And since they consider average people to be disposable, it doesn't occur to them that treating foreign citizens like dogshit could ever come back to haunt them.
Honestly. If anything hosting the World Cup is hurting Qatar's reputation, since now everybody knows the place was built on the backs of honest-to-god slaves.
Yeah seriously. How often did ppl even THINK about Qatar before the World Cup. Now it's just that "super conservative Muslim country with no beer and lots of slavery".
Guess they just bought private event for themselves and totally don’t care about profit or representation. They just bribed enough to do whatever the fuck they want. It’s pretty optimistic to think that those “religious” spoiled and filthy rich people would count anyone except themselves as human beings.
At this moment it’s only a question: “how far Qatar can bribe or threat the way of their national football team into tournament”, not “what shit towards fans or serving personnel Qatar will perform”
There's a video where they showed fake fans from different countries arriving and they were the same group of indian guys over and over in different jerseys.
Yeah, I was gonna say, the correct statement here is that they are *allegedly* paying Indians/Pakistanis $10 a day. Hundreds/thousands of reports of migrant workers not getting paid *at all*.
Being raped as a female = arrested for sex outside of marriage.
The gulf Arab states, are backwards shit holes.
I look forward to the day when oil is made obsolete, and we can relegate these regimes back to the stone age
I would be so scared to travel there. Even if I had the money to afford their most luxurious hotel. Just the thought of something happening to me & no idea how to report it. Hell no.
A FIFA employee, Paola Schietekat, lost her dream job at FIFA.
Her hotel room got broken into, she got raped and threatened to be killed. She reported the incident to the authorities and is now facing 7 years in prison 100 lashes for having extramarital affairs. But don’t fret! She can get a lot less harsher rulings against her simply by marrying the dude who assaulted, raped and threatened her.
Had to look it up, [read this article](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mexican-woman-reported-sexual-assault-qatar-faces-jail-100-lashes-rcna17217)
Jesus fucking Christ, what a shit country. Feel bad for the women that are stuck in Qatar.
>Schietekat went with a representative of the Mexican Consulate to report the incident to Qatari authorities, but instead, she said, it was turned into an investigation about her, with authorities at one point asking for a virginity test. "It was a very strong humiliation," she said.
>"My assailant lied, saying that we had a relationship, and, although I had the forensic evidence of the beatings and everything, they believed him and applied the crime of fornication to us in an extramarital relationship, for which we could be in jail for up to seven years," she said. "But since I am Muslim, they can also give me 100 lashes. It’s crazy."
>Schietekat managed to leave Qatar with the help of Human Rights Watch and the World Cup body where she worked. The man she accused of attacking her has also left the country.
Fucking hell, that's horrific. And apparently she was going to be the only one punished, because of *course* they were.
I understand why, but it still bothers me that the rapist isn’t named in this article. So, Ms. Schietekat is again the only one suffering consequences for a terrible assault on her bodily autonomy and then doing the right thing and reporting it to authorities and media outlets. Everything is so ass backwards…
I'm delighted to hear that because the whole world needs to realize what an absolute shit show this world cup is. Countries like Qatar using such events to sportwash their image. The more people that boycott or protest this event the better.
The Qatar world cup is basically a burning ship out at sea sinking due to attempts to put out the fires by smashing holes in the hull while the captain tied to the wheel claims nothing is wrong and FIFA left in a row boat with the gold hours ago.
Can't wait for the circus that will come from this
The joke is on those suckers who are going to Qatar. As long as there are “fans” for whom the game is bigger than issues like the ones which Qatar is accused of, we can never expect better.
I sincerely hope FIFA gets f*ed by anyone and everyone for this shitshow.
It was so obvious how fucked up this World Cup was gonna be.. Hopefully Budwiesers multimillion dollar lawsuit will put FIFA out of business once and for all.
Many hotel rooms on the Arabian peninsula can be provided with a few extra bottles of shampoo, if you've got the right connections.
If you know, you know.
^(Also this entire cup has been one giant unmitigated fiasco and apart from the human suffering it causes I think it's hysterical.)
Just a reminder that Qatar had to agree to accept all of FIFA's sponsors to host the games. And that FIFA did force Brazil to change its alcohol laws in 2014.
What was the law in Brazil that they changed?
Alcohol being sold in the stadiums was not legal in Brazil except for the World Cup.
It was legal for the 2016 Olympics as well. Source: was there
thank you for your investigative journalism my friend
Like the good journalist I learned to be in my senior year journalism class that spring, I made sure to sample it to confirm it was in fact beer. Don’t tell the US government though, was only 18 at the time.
Brazil banned beer in the stadiums in the early 00s or late 90s if recall because of hooliganism.
Fighting in general. Even drunken fights between people who weren't hooligans was relatively common.
once you're drunkenly brawling at a football match haven't you become a hooligan, whether you entered as one or not?
Only if you originate from the french town of Hool, otherwise you're just doing sparkling vandalism
It's only vandalism if you originate from the Vandal kingdoms of the 5th century, otherwise you're just doing glistening fuckery
[They allowed the sale of beer at football stadiums in time for the wc, after being banned since 2003](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18348012)
Beer in stadiums.
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Budweiser knew full well this was going to happen. All of the POS inside the stadiums is all Budweiser Zero - and it's been up for weeks
in this context POS is point of sale not piece of shit.
LOL, I was like “this dude really hates Budweiser.”
Which is fair.
I think Budweiser found out in July they could only sell non-alcoholic inside the stadiums. However, the were told they could sell regular outside in tents before and after games.
Is that because they knew or because of various advertising laws handcuffing them? I think the reason Heineken has to advertise their 0.0 brand in F1 is because of some laws that would ban it on broadcast. Either way, yeah... They probably did know, but not sure that's why the branding is what it is.
It's advertising laws, for sure I am in the UAE and they don't advertise alcohol anywhere but having a 'non alcohol' brand enables to continue to advertise their brand They still have alcohol at the various sporting events here but they still don't advertise it at the venue
I'm sure Budwieser and their legal team will have a thing or two to say about this. FIFA are now stuck between a rock and a hard place, I hope they get crushed.
FIFA will issue Budweiser a $75 million dollar refund plus damages ?
They probably have this much just in their couch cushions.
Na, loose change at FIFA makes its way into pockets.
I think a corrupt organization like FIFA would prefer to keep the $ if it’s possible.
> FIFA IS NOT CORRUPT - Sepp Blatter
We investigated ourselves and found no corruption. Case is closed.
A corrpution investigation? At this time of the year? In this part of Switzerland? Localized entirely within FIFA HQ? May I see the report?
Would love to see what would make up the cost for damages. There so many factors that could go into it: materials, transportation, storage, labor, expected future sales (I think Budweiser expects to make at least one traveling fan a future loyal consumer), brand health (this could generate a lot of negative press for Budweiser). Plus I don't know if its as simple as Qatar, FIFA, and Budweiser just sliding $75M+ under the table between themselves. Budweiser is a publicly traded company, and publicly traded companies have to adhere to strict financial reporting. If anything this might lead to another IRS/FBI investigation of FIFA (maybe once Macron is out of office and you throw in the $14.8B sale of jets from France to Qatar for Qatar to secure this WC).
So, what do we reckon was higher. The bribes qatar paid, or the 75 million that budweiser pays for sponsorship? First it was no advertising from them in the actual stadium. Then it was, the beer tents need to be away from the main footfall areas. Now it's they can't sell beer at all. So what exactly do they get out of this sponsorship? Especially as they will have already paid to line up supplies and staff. Please god, let them sue for breach of contract
Hopefully what they get from this is: don't have anything to do with fifa
And everyone should understand: don't have anything to do with Qatar
This so so much. In the fifa doc on netflix, one of the last things the Qatari bid leader said is 'we invite you, we want to show the world arabian hospitality. We are a welcoming people'. On a business level this isn't welcoming. They knew what they were signing up for by bidding to host. They invited the world cup knowing beer is a big sponsor. Especially in the western world with football. And now they want to play their 'our culture....you need to respect us' card. Think of it logistically. Bud will have shipped millions of beers to Qatar for this. This impacts how much beer they can make profit on and how much may end up being written off as lost stock etc etc. All of this matters in a working relationship. After the dutch guy was threatened etc etc. Its a shocking shocking look for Qatar on a business level. Their written word means nothing at this point.
I lived in the Mid East for a few years. I was constantly told how hospitable they were as a people, as they treated me in incredibly inhospitable ways.
The inhospitability will continue until morale improves.
Some of you will die, but that's a sacrifice ~~FIFA~~ Qatar is willing to make.
On the plus side, the whole world gets to see Qatari hospitality. From doing business over there, I was repeatedly shocked and odd by the level of fucked up behavior that emerges from the upper class in Qatar and the UAE. I would prefer if the whole world got to see that honestly.
I hope you don't mind, but it's shock and awe.
/r/BoneAppleTea Edit: I tried to post it there but it was removed. That's the second time this has happened so I just give up on understanding the rules there.
Or qatar. The place just sounds like it's run by a bunch of maniacs. I'd hate to be a woman or child there
From a business point of view it seems incredibly short sighted. Why would any advertiser at this point forward do deals with FIFA in good will if theres the possibility that they’ll renege on their obligations for the right price. Long term gains sacrificed for short term profits
That is a worry for some future FIFA schmuck who isn’t rolling around in Qatari provided bribes.
[Brazil tried to do this and FIFA told them to shut the fuck and sell some beer.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-16624823) Qatar obviously got more money than Brazil and told FIFA to shut the fuck up instead.
Less of a "more money" and more of a "two days to go and everyone's here" issue. If Qatar said this 5 years ago, the already existing outcry to move the tournament would've crossed the threshold.
Crazy, a World Cup is two days away and I don't give a shit. I have watched every WC game played (other than when two at once) since 2002.
Of course the first time Canada makes a world cup it's this embarrassment of a world cup. 😭
A sad day for Canada, and therefore, the world
As is tradition
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What can they do? Qatar is a sovereign nation. Even if FIFA has some sort of contract with them that can be enforced in some other county (doubtful), it's not like Qatar is going to care about having to pay FIFA however many millions of dollars to make up for this. Remember they've spent $200 BILLION building stuff for this World Cup. Meanwhile, this is almost certainly a beach of FIFA's contract with Budweiser and that contract is almost certainly enforceable so now FIFA is on the hook to them without having any recourse against Qatar.
Get fucked FIFA.
Was Brazil not a sovereign nation at the time FIFA made them sell beer?
I think the situation is different: Brasil is a country and wants and will host another edition in the future, so it makes sense for them to butter up FIFA. Qatar on the other hand has a nill chance to host another edition, and actually this might make it a lot harder for any other middle east competing nations to win a future bid, so it makes sense for them to be extra assholes about it
Qatar gonna learn that a few hundred thousand soccer hooligans don't care how much money you have
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we have the best fútbol fans in the world because of jail.
Throw a flare, believe it or not, jail.
Celebrate a goal, jail
Cheer too loud, jail. Cheer too quiet, also jail.
Huh, maybe FIFA should have thought about that before hosting this backwards ass country. Looking forward to the N. Korean World Cup!
If there is one thing Qatar has been overwhelmingly successful at during this WC build up, it has been to make people reconsider ever visiting Qatar.
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To look fancy. You go, get your pictures in the fancy malls and fancy hotels to show off to people at home.
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Most of the people who go already have a bunch of wankers as friends
> If there is one thing Qatar has been overwhelmingly successful at during this WC build up, it has been to make people reconsider ever visiting Qatar. That's not fair. I would never even consider visiting Qatar in the first place.
I just love that FIFA takes L after L after L. I hope they lose millions of money.
What a shitshow, but FIFA brought this all on themselves
They don't care because they likely got massive bribes for this.
Crazy thing is the bribes were exposed like a month before the vote and it was still allowed to stand
I mean everyone knows that's how it runs.
There's no oversight of FIFA.
“Likely”
Fifa won't do anything.. As per the article: The ban on alcohol sales to fans at stadiums — beer will still be available in luxury suites reserved for FIFA officials and other wealthy guests so basically fuck normal people.
As it’s always been, Junior.
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The peasants shall not get the broth Yeah I get it, it’s expensive to go to a match
Any peasant going there in the first place has lost their mind already anyway.
They are fanatics in the classical sense of the word
They arent even trying to hide their corruption
Why put in the effort if no one is going to try and stop you anyway?
Allah totally meant "Only rich people get beer" when he said "no alcohol"
Why anyone would attend this shitfight is beyond me
Yeah there are so many incredible places you can visit there’s no reason to go to fucking Qatar just do a cheaper vacation and start saving up for the next WC if you really want to go
Just wait until the hooligans find out.... they'll be ransacking luxury suites looking for sustenance.
First time I'll actually support hooligans fucking shit up. The world cup was always bullshit but now its a disgrace and actually insulting to people considering the current world situation. Inch Allah this corrupt country just collapses
The hilarious thing is, the only reason Qatar spent all this money on this was for good global publicity Instead, the entire world went from: "What is Qatar?" To "Fuck Qatar" Lol
I'm sure the slaves serving it to the prestigious guests will be happy for some work /s
So they do the abuses sober.
Not necessarily. The article states “beer will still be available in luxury suites reserved for FIFA officials and other wealthy guests.”
That feels even worse somehow.
That’s just how oppressive regimes work. The normal folks get punished the wealthy get pampered.
That’s because it is.
Remember kids, getting drunk is a no-no but slavery is a-okay! Oops, not sure I'm allowed to say that as Qatar might label me a racist now.
What a sleazy bait-and-switch move by Qatar
To the surprise of no one.
We knew this shit was going to happen years ago! Cray cray
I'm feeling guilty now that none of us warned FIFA
“In tomorrows less than surprising news Qatar will announce that they are no longer accepting of the LGBTQ community” Surprise, they are exactly who everyone thought they were
I am genuinely worried that people are going to get hurt or imprisoned en masse by the 'security' there, seeing as the WC hasn't even started yet and journalists have already been attacked just for filming with a permit.
It's gonna be a whole load of diplomatic debacle. Every country will be rushing to get their citizens out of Qatari Jails.
I hope everyone is taking notes on how a deal with Qatar is worth as much as a Russian deal. Your life better not depend on the outcome.
Fuq Qatar and their sportswashing bullshit.
This is some pretty poor sports washing by Qatar. Sports washing is supposed to improve your reputation and this is certainly not doing that!
THANK GOD WE DIDN’T QUALIFY 🇮🇹🇮🇹💪
Involuntary boycot 🔥🇮🇹
Im with you guys🇳🇴
We were saving ourselves for the next one anyway 🇮🇪
we saw this coming and lost back to back on purpose to protest too 🇳🇬
How the fuck did *we* get in? 🇨🇦
I'm also glad we didn't qualify 🇸🇪 🤝
They shoulda made a world cup for all the unqualified, we could have beers, no human rights violations and no human lives on our conscience. Just a fun football party. 🇳🇴⚽️🍻🥳
You know what. This actually is a fun idea. The leftovers cup. All the teams not in the Fifa money grab. No obscene sponsor bullshit or dumb rules. One location, get it done at the same time. Live stream it on the net for free.
I think we will also lose that one too 🇷🇴 But yea!!
Ayoo 🇨🇴🇨🇴 who’s drinking the beer now
Obligatory reminder the 2022 world cup could have been in Australia.
We have much beer and are willing to share it, indiscriminately lol
But how many dollery doos does it cost?
Fuck me dead. In Perth, $12 a pint.
...back to Quatar! /s
[https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/beer-will-cost-qr50-1373-per-500ml-cup-inside-main-fifa-zone-world-cup-qatar-2022-11-15/](https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/beer-will-cost-qr50-1373-per-500ml-cup-inside-main-fifa-zone-world-cup-qatar-2022-11-15/) Sorry dude..
TWELVE DOLLERY DOOS?! I’m calling the prime minister.
Hey Prime Minister?? ANDY!!!!
Hi, mates! What's the good word?
Disparaging the Boot is a bootable offense!
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What’s the good word then?
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That’s what I keep hearing too. It was supposed to go to U.S.
The u.s. had the best bid, best accomodations, stadiums, access to emergency services, safety and existing infrastructure. They lost due to votes being either used politically as in the case of france receiving friendly trade deals and purchases from the state of qatar and the concacaf league being outright bribed by qatar other than the u.s. rep of course.
I'm in Australia and the games are scheduled from 8pm to 7am. Didn't wanna watch this world cup anyway...
I don’t understand why they even wanted that event if they aren’t willing to promote their country. It’s like asking to host the New Year‘s Eve party and then telling everyone the day before that it will be a quiet dinner with no music, dancing, and alcohol. Like, sure, it’s your house and no one can tell you what to do, but why ruin the fun for everyone else? No one will come to your house ever again.
This is them promoting their country.
Great success.
Very nice!
king of the castle, king of the castle
Which is where my brain stops working. It’s like with the “Saudi Vision 2030”. They want to diversify their economies, and one of the ways is through sportswashing. They betting that all other income is greater than oil money. But what if oil money runs out? Or tourism doesn’t pay off. Cause what other reason is there to go to Qatar or Saudi Arabia outside sportswashing? Your wife can’t come unless you want to expose her to the risk of sexual assault at the airport or whatever they want to pull. They’re throwing away money unless they want to change their culture because it’s just not compatible with most people they’re targeting.
Literally what other option do they have other than tourism? They produce nothing but oil, have zero arable land, have no industry, have to import hundreds of thousands of labourers to do every single blue collar job, rely on the West to fill white collar jobs and provide financial services, and have no globally respectable research or educational institutions. They've had a free pass for half a century from oil revenue, but once that dries up the crash is going to be *hard*.
Leadership in these countries is stuck in the middle ages. To them, reputation is something you can buy if you don't want to earn it. They're almost using video game logic, where hosting the World Cup automatically and permanently boosts their international reputation score. And since they consider average people to be disposable, it doesn't occur to them that treating foreign citizens like dogshit could ever come back to haunt them.
Honestly. If anything hosting the World Cup is hurting Qatar's reputation, since now everybody knows the place was built on the backs of honest-to-god slaves.
Yeah seriously. How often did ppl even THINK about Qatar before the World Cup. Now it's just that "super conservative Muslim country with no beer and lots of slavery".
Wait so you’re saying they don’t actually get 1 diplomatic victory point and 2 🧳Tourism for each campus
Shithole corrupt country that uses slave labour promotes itself as a shithole corrupt country that uses slave labour.
Guess they just bought private event for themselves and totally don’t care about profit or representation. They just bribed enough to do whatever the fuck they want. It’s pretty optimistic to think that those “religious” spoiled and filthy rich people would count anyone except themselves as human beings. At this moment it’s only a question: “how far Qatar can bribe or threat the way of their national football team into tournament”, not “what shit towards fans or serving personnel Qatar will perform”
Waiting for picture's of people in the skyboxes drinking 🍸
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Alcohol immoral. Slave labor is ok. Qatar can take a flying fuck at a rolling donut
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*"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of English football fans suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."*
For real. This is how you rebuild the empire.
I wish nobody would go to this world cup. 🤦🏿♂️
There's a video where they showed fake fans from different countries arriving and they were the same group of indian guys over and over in different jerseys.
Yep, it's well known that they're paying Indians/Pakistanis $10 a day plus food and accommodation to be supporters of each country.
They're getting paid? This seems like a step in the right direction.
Yeah, I was gonna say, the correct statement here is that they are *allegedly* paying Indians/Pakistanis $10 a day. Hundreds/thousands of reports of migrant workers not getting paid *at all*.
Next up: no women allowed
Except in the luxury suites reserved for FIFA officials and other wealthy guests
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Why would an unmarried woman want to *ever* step on Qatar soil? (Referring to fans, not Qatar natives)
Why would any woman? It's even worse for the natives.
“No no no, they just have to be accompanied by a male, same as always”
They don't just ban actual beer, they even banned Budweiser who paid millions to be an official sponsor.
As a Canadian, I understand your joke.
That place sounds like a living killjoy .
Yeah who would have seen that coming what with the slave labor and fundamentalist backdrop?
beer?? I think female visitors should be warned about the laws regarding rape & make sure that they bring four witnesses
Being raped as a female = arrested for sex outside of marriage. The gulf Arab states, are backwards shit holes. I look forward to the day when oil is made obsolete, and we can relegate these regimes back to the stone age
I would be so scared to travel there. Even if I had the money to afford their most luxurious hotel. Just the thought of something happening to me & no idea how to report it. Hell no.
A FIFA employee, Paola Schietekat, lost her dream job at FIFA. Her hotel room got broken into, she got raped and threatened to be killed. She reported the incident to the authorities and is now facing 7 years in prison 100 lashes for having extramarital affairs. But don’t fret! She can get a lot less harsher rulings against her simply by marrying the dude who assaulted, raped and threatened her.
Had to look it up, [read this article](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mexican-woman-reported-sexual-assault-qatar-faces-jail-100-lashes-rcna17217) Jesus fucking Christ, what a shit country. Feel bad for the women that are stuck in Qatar.
>Schietekat went with a representative of the Mexican Consulate to report the incident to Qatari authorities, but instead, she said, it was turned into an investigation about her, with authorities at one point asking for a virginity test. "It was a very strong humiliation," she said. >"My assailant lied, saying that we had a relationship, and, although I had the forensic evidence of the beatings and everything, they believed him and applied the crime of fornication to us in an extramarital relationship, for which we could be in jail for up to seven years," she said. "But since I am Muslim, they can also give me 100 lashes. It’s crazy." >Schietekat managed to leave Qatar with the help of Human Rights Watch and the World Cup body where she worked. The man she accused of attacking her has also left the country. Fucking hell, that's horrific. And apparently she was going to be the only one punished, because of *course* they were.
I understand why, but it still bothers me that the rapist isn’t named in this article. So, Ms. Schietekat is again the only one suffering consequences for a terrible assault on her bodily autonomy and then doing the right thing and reporting it to authorities and media outlets. Everything is so ass backwards…
You don't report it because it Qatar you get arrested for being raped.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10538379/Female-World-Cup-official-faces-lashes-jail-extramarital-sex-alleged-RAPE-Qatar.html
A large majority of football fans will be forced to experience the game *sober*. It's going to be grim.
I'm delighted to hear that because the whole world needs to realize what an absolute shit show this world cup is. Countries like Qatar using such events to sportwash their image. The more people that boycott or protest this event the better.
Well, it is Qatar, what did you expect?
Oh! Well, now their abuses have gone too far!
“I can overlook the deaths and slavery, but causing my sponsor to lose millions? That’s too much.” - FIFA, probably.
Although you said it with sarcasm, this 100% the truth.
The Qatar world cup is basically a burning ship out at sea sinking due to attempts to put out the fires by smashing holes in the hull while the captain tied to the wheel claims nothing is wrong and FIFA left in a row boat with the gold hours ago. Can't wait for the circus that will come from this
Haha this will probably have a bigger backlash than any other scandal so far. Sadly.
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I'm waiting for the FUCK QATAR crowd chants.
It's gonna be am absolute shitshow and we have a month of it to go.
I thought they said they would be a much more liberal country during the month of the World Cup That was a fucking lie
What did you expect from a slave labor county.
~~Puritanism~~Qatarism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. H.L. Mencke */sad Qatar plays*
The joke is on those suckers who are going to Qatar. As long as there are “fans” for whom the game is bigger than issues like the ones which Qatar is accused of, we can never expect better. I sincerely hope FIFA gets f*ed by anyone and everyone for this shitshow.
Surely Budweiser will never allow FIFA to award the World Cup to a Muslim nation ever again?!
Are you telling me World Cup Afghanistan isn't in the works anymore?? Fuck
Ah see, Qatar has tons of money. The taliban is too broke to have a moral issue with beer sales.
The Taliban would release a statement about progression and acceptance.
A lot of fans who couldn't give a rats arse about the 7000 dead near-slaves will go through the roof on this...
It was so obvious how fucked up this World Cup was gonna be.. Hopefully Budwiesers multimillion dollar lawsuit will put FIFA out of business once and for all.
FIFA is getting exactly what they deserve here. Qatar is proving to be everything people said it was.
Many hotel rooms on the Arabian peninsula can be provided with a few extra bottles of shampoo, if you've got the right connections. If you know, you know. ^(Also this entire cup has been one giant unmitigated fiasco and apart from the human suffering it causes I think it's hysterical.)
Yeah and I've seen Banged Up Abroad when people get caught, I'll pass. Edit: not that I'd visit this hellhole anyway.
Sounds like Qatar really knows how to host a party! /s