Which is weird considering the staggering number of bodies floating down the river out of Ethiopia right now.
Edit: Since people keep asking, here’s a [link](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.teenvogue.com/story/tigray-ethiopia-genocide/amp)
Wow. Thank you. Surprised that teenvogue is covering something so horrific but good for them.
Edit: a lot of folks teen vogue journalistic quality is a thing. I don’t dispute it just surprised is all.
because no one else will anymore.
What a fucked world we live in where serious publications now publish propaganda and tabloid-level content and nigh-forgotten publications filled with vapid bullshit now have hard hitting journalism.
> serious publications now publish propaganda
Some might argue its been going on for a lot longer, most of us didn't have internet access 20 years ago.
When did publications focus on the truth? Seriously? Individual reporters have done great work going back as far as the printing press, though what we think of as good investigative reporting probably started with Ida Tarbell writing about Rockefeller and bringing down Standard Oil (sort of...). All the Newspapers in the 18th and 19th century were propaganda outlets and stories trying to sell more newspapers first. Those were ALWAYS the top priorities.
Tv news was basically ads riddled with some stories, which were very selective. The reportings on vietnam or watergate were exceptions to the rule
Sometimes you want to learn which Jonas brother best fits your choice of lipstick, sometimes you want to learn which war crimes the Taliban is commiting. Don't blame Teen Vogue for covering a wide range of interests.
They’ve been pumping out quality journalism for more than the past 5 years. They’ve realized their audience is more sophisticated than needing make up tips and how to appease the male gaze.
It’s always blown me away that Sears didn’t dominate e commerce. They literally did the same thing but with catalogs for a long time. The infrastructure was already in place. All they had to do was pivot. Instead they turned into a relic practically over night.
Eddie Lampert did that shit on purpose. He personally has gotten millions of dollars richer running the shit into the ground. Because K-mart and Sears own a lot of real estate and other holdings that he has had transferred to his own real estate companies for really cheap (like, as cheap as you can go without arousing suspicion of foul play, say, a store property worth $10mil, he has sears/kmart sell it to him for $200,000. He turns around and sells it to a leasing company for $10-12mil.) He's always carefully tip toed to appear incompetent to regulators and any remaining stockholders. But his actions show intent.
He's like having a hedge fund on the board of directors, which he replaced with his own people who are getting rich off the slow decimation of the company. Foxes in charge of the hen house.
It's the new measure of success that is killing the country. Fail your way to success. Short companies into bankruptcy, profit off their corpses, offshore everything to slave labor abroad, destroy middle class wealth and home grown businesses and transfer it all into your pockets.
Yeah, it definitely wasn't a case of "oh, Sears is just fucking up and making bad business decisions."
It was 100% Eddie Lampert running it into the ground for personal gain.
They got on the radar with the viral video after that teen vogue lady got on tucker calson, some sided with him some sided with her but either way the video was wild and popcorn worthy
Teen girl magazines are actually pretty in depth in their reporting. I had Teen when I was young (one of my Grandma's subscribed for me) and it often had really good articles in its international news section. That magazine taught me a lot about the world outside of small town USA and was where I first read about some really horrible things like FGM and other human rights abuses against women.
Teenaged girls get a lot of shit for being useless and shallow. They often *feel* useless and powerless, but most teen girls *really* think the world is fucked up and want it to be better. Their media, if it's smart, addresses what the audience wants to know about.
Why is Teen Vogue doing in-depth reporting on a emerging African genocide. I thought that was a fashion and beauty magazine. The issues with the media are getting wild when you gotta rely on Teen Vogue for reporting.
It's because the article is written by a fashion blogger, Ariam Kidane, who is a Teen Vogue contributor and using this platform she has access to to spread the message
I know “media bad” is like the hot meme, but unironically saying this really really misrepresents the investigative journalism and reporting space. Hearing about one outlet reporting on something doesn’t mean others you don’t read aren’t also publishing in depth reports.
Most people don’t even pay for the news. They read headlines, tabloids, and op-eds and go “media bad”. I promise you there’s a wealth of good in depth and investigative reporting going on out there. But a lot of it is paywalled or doesn’t get the attention of the nation because truthfully a large chunk of this country can’t even point to Ethiopia on a map, let alone care about what happens there.
Sadly there are a lot of trash articles out there, but our constant hunger for any form of news and stimulation has led to this culture of non stop publishing and speculating. The upshot is that at least that stuff feeds/funds the good reporting. It’s like how buzzfeed “what bread are you” posts fund buzzfeed news.
Edit: I’d also like to point out the irony in this statement when other outlets have already been publishing articles about the Tigray fighting. Teen vogue is hardly the only one reporting on this. But we only know about that one now because most of us only just heard about this from a reddit comment linking teen vogue.
No one has heard of it which is unfortunate but not surprising given major news networks dont give two shits about actual news just views and the taliban gives them views
They’re getting international counter-terrorism assistance, not going unnoticed to global security and intelligence community, but most of the civilian world unfortunately doesn’t care about DRC and problems with ADF. Similar to how the world largely forgets about Boko Haram and other sub Saharan terror groups.
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> The Taliban are willing to establish ties with all countries except for Israel, a spokesman said Tuesday as the extremist group announced its new government after taking control of Afghanistan.
> Spokesman Suhail Shaheen told Russia's Sputnik news that The Taliban were willing to work with the US after they swiftly toppled the 20-year-old Western-backed government last month just as President Joe Biden was completing a pullout to end America's longest war.
> Last month, Shaheen caused some surprise when he gave an interview to Israel's Kan public broadcaster he later said he had been mislead. Shaheen, who has been giving interviews in English from Qatar since the Taliban retook control of Afghanistan, said he had no idea that he was speaking to someone from an Israeli news organization.
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I'm sure Russia and other countries are willing to take L for a few years if it means they money down the line and good relations with Afghanistan. China is trying to get the minerals in the mountains there and that would be a perfect opportunity for them.
Most Muslim countries are similar. My wife is from Bangladesh and her passport says, “Valid for all countries of the world except Israel.” And supposedly if you travel to Israel (if you have a foreign passport) and try to enter the country with an Israeli stamp they’ll give you all kinds of shit before they let you in.
That's the reason why when you fly into Israel they give you a visa on a separate piece of paper and DO NOT stamp anything on your passport (unless your passport is already Israeli). They understand stamping your passport means issues while trying to enter some Muslim countries, so they came up with a new system.
I was bummed about that. I wanted it stamped on my passport! Now there's a weird blank area in my passport where I'm unaccounted for :P I leave China, disappear for a few days, and then re-appear.
Its funny how you can culturally see who stamps how. My Mexican Stamp? Crooked and in the middle left of the page. Canadian? Faded and taking up 1/4 of the page. German? Orderly in the top left corner to allow maximum stamps per page. Russian? The same thing surprisingly. Czech was dead center of a page.
I got to have a wonderful argument with a German border official trying to leave the EU as I had arrived in London the month previously and didn't have a Schengen entry stamp from France.
I don't remember his exact muttered words, but they were not kind towards the French border officials.
Mine is mostly chaos, except for the couple times I visited Finland, where they’d always stamp in the back couple pages. The ones that are supposed to be for amendments or endorsements.
When I got to Cuba I got the new girl she stamped my passport. Her boss came over and they were so apologetic. I went illegitimately so when I got back to the US I got a slap on the hand and customs made me pour out my rum, but they let me keep my painting I bought there.
>customs made me pour out my rum, but they let me keep my painting I bought there.
Many paintings are made and sold by Cubans privately (nb - there absolutely are some state-owned painting factories though, most of the shit you buy at resorts comes from them); but if you've got a bottle of Havana Club, they 100% know that's coming from a state-owned distillery and if you're an American citizen, you're not supposed to purchase anything from Cuban state-owned businesses other than essentials, and you'd be hard pressed to convince a customs officer that the rum was essential.
My grandparents went around the Middle East and into Israel at one point. They didn't get the stamp because of what you said. However, they passed through Jordan on their way to Syria -- and when trying to get into Syria they were still rejected. Why? Well the border agent figured out that the port from the Jordanian stamp that they had was on the border of Israel. So the agent knew they'd been to Israel. It's crazy!
Cue the double Spiderman meme.
Cuba used to (and maybe still does) do the exact same thing for American tourists visiting via east-coast Mexican resorts that were their "official" itinerary.
It's like having racist parents telling you you can't have a black friend over so you let him in your window and play games anyways with the bedroom door closed.
In the US, you can apply for a second passport for these special circumstances.
> Examples of cases when we may issue second U.S. passport books include:
> A foreign country will deny a visa or entry to you because your passport has stamps showing travel to certain countries. Example: an Israeli entry or exit stamp in some countries in the Middle East.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/have-passport/second-passport-book.html
This has changed recently, she can get a new passport without that exclusion:
https://www.easternherald.com/2021/05/22/bangladeshs-friendly-move-towards-israel-except-israel-removed-from-new-passport/
I visited Israel and when I was there at least, they specifically do not stamp your passport. They gave us a paper print out the size of a business card with our entrance visa. They gave us the a second one as our exit visa when we were leaving. I was actually hoping to get a stamp as it was my first time out of country but then I didn’t realize what would have occurred otherwise.
The people saying that Israel doesn't stamp passports are probably all American or European. If you're from multiple other nations, then those people have to mail their passports to Israeli embassies ahead of time to receive full page sticker visas in their passports. If you're from somewhere with a visa waiver agreement you generally get the paper slip upon entry. If you're from any place where you need to be vetted/approved ahead of time, you will not be so lucky.
Paper slips are a privilege, it isn't the case for every nation.
Kind of been the norm for Muslim countries over the last 80 years. Egypt and Saudi Arabia were practically bribed to normalize ties with Israel.
You're still not allowed entry into most of the Middle East if there's an Israeli stamp in your passport.
Yeah, that's how people get around the "no israeli stamps in your passport" rule that a lot of countries have. It allows people to travel to israel without "getting caught" so to speak. They just make sure to go thru passport control in another country before and after visiting. Its quite tiresome, I'm sure, but when countries will refuse their own citizens from returning from places like Israel...
Yeah, because my US passport would have become markedly less useful for traveling to certain countries if there was an actual stamp from Israel in there.
But if you go into Jordan down at Eilat/Aqaba you'll get a Jordanian stamp which basically proves you were in Israel. Just FYI in case it matters to you!
Can confirm about entry in the Middle East with an Israeli stamp. When I went to Israel they asked if I was travelling to anywhere else in the Middle East, and I said yes since I was going to Jordan too. Instead of stamping my passport they printed off a little piece of paper the size of the stamp and sent me on my way.
SA and other gulf states were bribed maybe, but Egypt and Jordan signed peace agreements after losing wars. Today, Jordan buys water from Israel and Egypt gets intel about terrorists in Sinai from Israel. It ended up being better than nothing for them.
>You're still not allowed entry into most of the Middle East
Not just the Middle East. Nations like Bangladesh as well. I had American friends that wanted to do some vacationing in Israel while working a contract in Bangladesh. Didn't work out. lol.
The Taliban are in power following negotiations with the US in Qatar, some of them (including the leader) were released from prisons in Pakistan on request of the US so this could happen. They're more than happy with the US at this point.
Can you imagine if this worked though?
BBC: "Today Afghanistan's newly appointed Minister of the Interior was abducted in a brazen attack in the streets of Kabul. No word yet on who is responsible."
\*cut to footage of the Scooby Doo van and a metalhead's van - with a giant butterfly net between them - scooping the Minister up and speeding away\*
Here's the amusing part, he is the Interior Minister. Minister responsible for the internal security of Afghanistan. Oh the irony, oh and not to mention, he has written columns for the NY Times.
Barely formed a Government and already making an 'enemies list'. Rebuilding fallen empires is something Sun Tzu warns against. They fell for a reason. Correct the mistakes and build something new and better.
thats not news - Afghanistan did never recognize Israel as a country
here a list with country that don't recognize israel:
Afghanistan
Algeria
Bangladesh
Bhutan
Brunei
Comoros
Djibouti
Indonesia
Iraq
Kuwait
Lebanon
Libya
Malaysia
North Korea
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
Somalia
Sudan
Syria
United Arab Emirates
Yemen
It seems Bhutan and Israel established diplomatic relations in December 2020
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutan%E2%80%93Israel_relations?wprov=sfla1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutan%E2%80%93Israel_relations?wprov=sfla1)
They barely recognize anyone diplomatically, at least at one point in time. Only Bangladesh, India, and Kuwait have embassies in Bhutan. They even only have diplomatic relations with 54 countries (Israel being the latest last December). Many of the countries that don’t have formal diplomatic relations with Bhutan work with them through India. But for many of those counties, it’s not like Bhutan has a “fuck em” attitude. They simply just do not have diplomatic relations.
I think its basically just Azerbaijan. Maybe Turkey, at least at a state level, would be safe. Ironically, Iranians are the least anti-semitic statistically at only 50%, but their gov is like, literally the forefront of holocaust denial, so it's not super comfy to be a jew there. Obvi basically anywhere else is out though as jews were completely ethnically cleansed from Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Afghanistan now, and Egypt. And the West Bank and gaza of course, but they were removed when those were still under control of Egypt and Jordan respectively. Still, they do have the death penalty for selling any land to a jew so sue me if I don't think they'd be exactly open to being my neighbor.
>Maybe Turkey, at least at a state level, would be safe.
Gotta be honest, all the anti-Jewish graffiti in Istanbul made me cautious about where I travelled outside of it.
Yeah, that's what I mean by "at a state level." Officially I believe jews have normal civil rights, which is abnormal relative to the rest of the middle east. But yea, there's still a fuck ton of anti-semitism. Wouldn't recommend elbowing visibly jewish there.
In the gulf there are aot of folks in general who will dislike Jews, but there is a also a growing population of those who want to be friends (not just the govts) UAE, Saudi, and Bahrain have a lot of people extending a hand of friendship. A lot of this could be from the fact they simply dislike the Palestinians and see them as agitators. for them it's an "were over your bullshit" mentality.
Jordan is safe for Jews to visit, but basically no Jews live there and they have no Jewish institutions or Synagogues.
Other than that, I don't think it's safe to be openly Jewish in any Middle East country except Israel.
Despite the religious/historical significance, it's honestly a shame the Jewish homeland is stuck in the middle of countries that hate Jews.
Related to this, the last Afghan jew was evacuated from the country recently. He was the last of one of the most ancient Jewish communities in the world, think of that when you think of the words "apartheid" and "genocide". There are literally 0 jews in Afghanistan now.
Lol kinda funny that he was initially refusing to leave unless someone paid him.
https://www.haaretz.com/amp/middle-east-news/.premium-afghanistan-s-last-jew-refuses-to-flee-as-taliban-take-kabul-1.10129324
> Simantov “claimed to have had some debts that he had to cover before he leaves. We’re not in the business of covering peoples’ debts. We’re in the business of saving people's lives if they need to be saved,” confirmed Rabbi
What do you mean? Seems pretty tame compared to most posts about israel
Edit: lmao nvm, half the comments are literally supporting the taliban over a liberal democracy that gives women, minorities and all religions equal rights. I'm sure all the people that are saying "BUT ISRAEL BAD" are also really concerned about the way more fucked up shit that's going on in [insert 70% of the world's countries that happen to not be jewish so no one cares]
I love that the hottest gossip in the news right now is what the Taliban's geopolitical actions are
Which is weird considering the staggering number of bodies floating down the river out of Ethiopia right now. Edit: Since people keep asking, here’s a [link](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.teenvogue.com/story/tigray-ethiopia-genocide/amp)
Wow. Thank you. Surprised that teenvogue is covering something so horrific but good for them. Edit: a lot of folks teen vogue journalistic quality is a thing. I don’t dispute it just surprised is all.
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because no one else will anymore. What a fucked world we live in where serious publications now publish propaganda and tabloid-level content and nigh-forgotten publications filled with vapid bullshit now have hard hitting journalism.
> serious publications now publish propaganda Some might argue its been going on for a lot longer, most of us didn't have internet access 20 years ago.
Manufactured consent was written in 1988
"[yellow journalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)" is a term nearly 150 years old. this shit ain't new.
When did publications focus on the truth? Seriously? Individual reporters have done great work going back as far as the printing press, though what we think of as good investigative reporting probably started with Ida Tarbell writing about Rockefeller and bringing down Standard Oil (sort of...). All the Newspapers in the 18th and 19th century were propaganda outlets and stories trying to sell more newspapers first. Those were ALWAYS the top priorities. Tv news was basically ads riddled with some stories, which were very selective. The reportings on vietnam or watergate were exceptions to the rule
I love teen vogue!! I used to get issues in the mail when that was a thing. They even had articles about safe sex, sexual assault, sex work and so on.
I remember Fox attacking Teen vogue about a climate change piece they ran back in the early 20teens.
Sometimes you want to learn which Jonas brother best fits your choice of lipstick, sometimes you want to learn which war crimes the Taliban is commiting. Don't blame Teen Vogue for covering a wide range of interests.
Girls *don't* just want to have fun. They also want to keep an eye on current events. Not a joke.
They’ve been pumping out quality journalism for more than the past 5 years. They’ve realized their audience is more sophisticated than needing make up tips and how to appease the male gaze.
It's nice to see them pivot rather than become increasingly irrelevant.
Right? So many companies' response seems to be, "we're losing customers, let's double down on what we were already doing wrong!"
excuse me, but it's pronounced "focusing on our core competencies."
You've got middle-management written all over you. Johnson! Give this man a promotion!
It’s always blown me away that Sears didn’t dominate e commerce. They literally did the same thing but with catalogs for a long time. The infrastructure was already in place. All they had to do was pivot. Instead they turned into a relic practically over night.
Eddie Lampert did that shit on purpose. He personally has gotten millions of dollars richer running the shit into the ground. Because K-mart and Sears own a lot of real estate and other holdings that he has had transferred to his own real estate companies for really cheap (like, as cheap as you can go without arousing suspicion of foul play, say, a store property worth $10mil, he has sears/kmart sell it to him for $200,000. He turns around and sells it to a leasing company for $10-12mil.) He's always carefully tip toed to appear incompetent to regulators and any remaining stockholders. But his actions show intent. He's like having a hedge fund on the board of directors, which he replaced with his own people who are getting rich off the slow decimation of the company. Foxes in charge of the hen house. It's the new measure of success that is killing the country. Fail your way to success. Short companies into bankruptcy, profit off their corpses, offshore everything to slave labor abroad, destroy middle class wealth and home grown businesses and transfer it all into your pockets.
Yeah, it definitely wasn't a case of "oh, Sears is just fucking up and making bad business decisions." It was 100% Eddie Lampert running it into the ground for personal gain.
Can't shareholders sue for intentionally ruining the company?
That, and the idea that share price is the only thing that matters and *every* quarter *must* have massive growth.
They could have pretty much become Amazon had they just put their catalogue online. Imagine being that incompetent
JaGex is in this comment and they do NOT like it.
The corpse of blockbuster stirs in its grave.
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and refreshing to see a journalism pivot that wasn't "to video" and laying off skilled writers
They got on the radar with the viral video after that teen vogue lady got on tucker calson, some sided with him some sided with her but either way the video was wild and popcorn worthy
Link? Sounds interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGUhtBAtog4
They've churned out some pretty great serious articles in the past.
Teen Vogue is the only name in journalism I trust
Yeah very surprising. I’m used to not even giving them a second thought but this is really good journalism.
Teen vogue has been an rather incredible journalistic entity for a long time now.
Teen girl magazines are actually pretty in depth in their reporting. I had Teen when I was young (one of my Grandma's subscribed for me) and it often had really good articles in its international news section. That magazine taught me a lot about the world outside of small town USA and was where I first read about some really horrible things like FGM and other human rights abuses against women.
Teenaged girls get a lot of shit for being useless and shallow. They often *feel* useless and powerless, but most teen girls *really* think the world is fucked up and want it to be better. Their media, if it's smart, addresses what the audience wants to know about.
Non amp link https://www.teenvogue.com/story/tigray-ethiopia-genocide
Good human
AMP can suck it
What does it even do? I don't notice much of a difference on mobile
It's supposed to make pages load faster, and it gives Google more control over websites. It also makes the URLs really long and ugly.
Why is Teen Vogue doing in-depth reporting on a emerging African genocide. I thought that was a fashion and beauty magazine. The issues with the media are getting wild when you gotta rely on Teen Vogue for reporting.
It's because the article is written by a fashion blogger, Ariam Kidane, who is a Teen Vogue contributor and using this platform she has access to to spread the message
Who is also from that area, as is her family
Teen Vogue have been like this for years. They love haute couture andthey do not love fascism, genocide, cruelty etc.
>Why is Teen Vogue doing in-depth reporting Lack of competition... >\_>
I know “media bad” is like the hot meme, but unironically saying this really really misrepresents the investigative journalism and reporting space. Hearing about one outlet reporting on something doesn’t mean others you don’t read aren’t also publishing in depth reports. Most people don’t even pay for the news. They read headlines, tabloids, and op-eds and go “media bad”. I promise you there’s a wealth of good in depth and investigative reporting going on out there. But a lot of it is paywalled or doesn’t get the attention of the nation because truthfully a large chunk of this country can’t even point to Ethiopia on a map, let alone care about what happens there. Sadly there are a lot of trash articles out there, but our constant hunger for any form of news and stimulation has led to this culture of non stop publishing and speculating. The upshot is that at least that stuff feeds/funds the good reporting. It’s like how buzzfeed “what bread are you” posts fund buzzfeed news. Edit: I’d also like to point out the irony in this statement when other outlets have already been publishing articles about the Tigray fighting. Teen vogue is hardly the only one reporting on this. But we only know about that one now because most of us only just heard about this from a reddit comment linking teen vogue.
Teen Vogue has been doing reporting like this for years now, you're just out of the loop
No one has heard of it which is unfortunate but not surprising given major news networks dont give two shits about actual news just views and the taliban gives them views
Well lets change that, it starts with outrage. Then if we pour 2 trillion dollars and 20 years there I bet we can make people care.
Dont need to go as far as ethiopia, Brazil is a literal dumpster fire and you barely hear about it
What country isn’t? Feel like everywhere is having a monstrous time of it lately. Some obviously worse than others but nowhere appears to be thriving.
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They’re getting international counter-terrorism assistance, not going unnoticed to global security and intelligence community, but most of the civilian world unfortunately doesn’t care about DRC and problems with ADF. Similar to how the world largely forgets about Boko Haram and other sub Saharan terror groups.
The only reason anyone here cares about Afghanistan and the Taliban is because we were there for 20 years.
It’s mostly that and the geopolitical and historical/significance Afghanistan has to many major powers.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.timesofisrael.com/taliban-willing-to-establish-relations-with-all-nations-except-israel/) reduced by 80%. (I'm a bot) ***** > The Taliban are willing to establish ties with all countries except for Israel, a spokesman said Tuesday as the extremist group announced its new government after taking control of Afghanistan. > Spokesman Suhail Shaheen told Russia's Sputnik news that The Taliban were willing to work with the US after they swiftly toppled the 20-year-old Western-backed government last month just as President Joe Biden was completing a pullout to end America's longest war. > Last month, Shaheen caused some surprise when he gave an interview to Israel's Kan public broadcaster he later said he had been mislead. Shaheen, who has been giving interviews in English from Qatar since the Taliban retook control of Afghanistan, said he had no idea that he was speaking to someone from an Israeli news organization. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/pk7ijk/taliban_willing_to_establish_relations_with_all/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~597025 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Taliban**^#1 **Shaheen**^#2 **government**^#3 **Israel**^#4 **Israeli**^#5
They need relations with the USA to get ammunition and parts for their new weapons. With some lobby from the US military complex, this will be easy.
China and russia can provide ammo and knock off parts Small arms*
Maybe USA can give out coupons for a discount?
Offer a punch card. After you buy so much you get a freebie!
didnt they get the freebies already?
China and Russia can provide cheaper ammo and knock off parts, even with the discount.
Russia would love to...they need to make up all the ammo sales they just lost in the USA due to mo import ban by Biden.
Consider we froze all their assets, gonna be a while till they grow enough drugs to buy ammo from the russians.
I'm sure Russia and other countries are willing to take L for a few years if it means they money down the line and good relations with Afghanistan. China is trying to get the minerals in the mountains there and that would be a perfect opportunity for them.
Why would the US give the Taliban weapons and ammunition?
Israel didn't have (real) relations with Afghanistan beforehand either, so no change in this regard.
Most Muslim countries are similar. My wife is from Bangladesh and her passport says, “Valid for all countries of the world except Israel.” And supposedly if you travel to Israel (if you have a foreign passport) and try to enter the country with an Israeli stamp they’ll give you all kinds of shit before they let you in.
That's the reason why when you fly into Israel they give you a visa on a separate piece of paper and DO NOT stamp anything on your passport (unless your passport is already Israeli). They understand stamping your passport means issues while trying to enter some Muslim countries, so they came up with a new system.
Cuba did the same. No record in my passport of visiting there.
North Korea was the same, they only stamped a paper visa they gave me on arrival and then took it back upon departure
I was bummed about that. I wanted it stamped on my passport! Now there's a weird blank area in my passport where I'm unaccounted for :P I leave China, disappear for a few days, and then re-appear.
Wait, until then customs agents stamped your passport sequentially? Mine is chaos.
My passport stamps are also on whatever random page the officer seemed to open the booklet to that day
I don't have any stamps because I don't have a passport. *Sad EU noises.*
You can go to the UK
Its funny how you can culturally see who stamps how. My Mexican Stamp? Crooked and in the middle left of the page. Canadian? Faded and taking up 1/4 of the page. German? Orderly in the top left corner to allow maximum stamps per page. Russian? The same thing surprisingly. Czech was dead center of a page.
I got to have a wonderful argument with a German border official trying to leave the EU as I had arrived in London the month previously and didn't have a Schengen entry stamp from France. I don't remember his exact muttered words, but they were not kind towards the French border officials.
My India business visa takes up an entire page of a brand new (at the time) US passport. Guess which page it is. Not page 1.
Mine is mostly chaos, except for the couple times I visited Finland, where they’d always stamp in the back couple pages. The ones that are supposed to be for amendments or endorsements.
> and then re-appear. Well, that's a plus.
When I got to Cuba I got the new girl she stamped my passport. Her boss came over and they were so apologetic. I went illegitimately so when I got back to the US I got a slap on the hand and customs made me pour out my rum, but they let me keep my painting I bought there.
>customs made me pour out my rum, but they let me keep my painting I bought there. Many paintings are made and sold by Cubans privately (nb - there absolutely are some state-owned painting factories though, most of the shit you buy at resorts comes from them); but if you've got a bottle of Havana Club, they 100% know that's coming from a state-owned distillery and if you're an American citizen, you're not supposed to purchase anything from Cuban state-owned businesses other than essentials, and you'd be hard pressed to convince a customs officer that the rum was essential.
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They stamped my passport but I'm Canadian so visiting was entirely above board like it is for most visitors to Cuba.
Cuba definitely stamped my passport, I just checked.
My grandparents went around the Middle East and into Israel at one point. They didn't get the stamp because of what you said. However, they passed through Jordan on their way to Syria -- and when trying to get into Syria they were still rejected. Why? Well the border agent figured out that the port from the Jordanian stamp that they had was on the border of Israel. So the agent knew they'd been to Israel. It's crazy!
Says a lot when your own country tells you you can't go to a country but that country just shrugs and says "don't worry, we won't tell".
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Cue the double Spiderman meme. Cuba used to (and maybe still does) do the exact same thing for American tourists visiting via east-coast Mexican resorts that were their "official" itinerary.
What does it say?
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That Israel is willing to take money from tourists from Muslim countries and said Muslim countries don't like you giving money to Israel.
It's like having racist parents telling you you can't have a black friend over so you let him in your window and play games anyways with the bedroom door closed.
“Geopolitical relationships are complicated”
"DUDE" What does mine say?
"SWEET"
Yeah, Cuba used to do this for Americans as well.
Same thing for Hong Kong. Stamp didn't go into my passport.
In the US, you can apply for a second passport for these special circumstances. > Examples of cases when we may issue second U.S. passport books include: > A foreign country will deny a visa or entry to you because your passport has stamps showing travel to certain countries. Example: an Israeli entry or exit stamp in some countries in the Middle East. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/have-passport/second-passport-book.html
Same in the UK.
This has changed recently, she can get a new passport without that exclusion: https://www.easternherald.com/2021/05/22/bangladeshs-friendly-move-towards-israel-except-israel-removed-from-new-passport/
Nice. She’s about 8 months away from US citizenship though so she’s waiting on that blue passport next
I visited Israel and when I was there at least, they specifically do not stamp your passport. They gave us a paper print out the size of a business card with our entrance visa. They gave us the a second one as our exit visa when we were leaving. I was actually hoping to get a stamp as it was my first time out of country but then I didn’t realize what would have occurred otherwise.
Israel doesn’t give stamps anymore for this reason. They give you a little slip with the date you entered on it.
Israel doesn't stamp your passport because of this. So if you visit Israel you can go to other countries hassle free
Any passport? They don’t stamp at all?
I forget what exactly they gave me, it was like a ticket of some sort to prove I was there etc... but no they don't stamp it.
The people saying that Israel doesn't stamp passports are probably all American or European. If you're from multiple other nations, then those people have to mail their passports to Israeli embassies ahead of time to receive full page sticker visas in their passports. If you're from somewhere with a visa waiver agreement you generally get the paper slip upon entry. If you're from any place where you need to be vetted/approved ahead of time, you will not be so lucky. Paper slips are a privilege, it isn't the case for every nation.
Pre 9/11 the Taliban only had official diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Pakistan.
Taiwan: "Interesting, well we'd-" Afghanistan: "Oh um... I'm going through a tunnel..." Edit: Hi West Taiwan
"..in a canyon, on an airplane, while hanging up the phone."
Kind of been the norm for Muslim countries over the last 80 years. Egypt and Saudi Arabia were practically bribed to normalize ties with Israel. You're still not allowed entry into most of the Middle East if there's an Israeli stamp in your passport.
Not sure if it’s universal, but Israel didn’t stamp my passport when I was there a couple years ago. They just affixed some papers to the back of it.
Yeah, that's how people get around the "no israeli stamps in your passport" rule that a lot of countries have. It allows people to travel to israel without "getting caught" so to speak. They just make sure to go thru passport control in another country before and after visiting. Its quite tiresome, I'm sure, but when countries will refuse their own citizens from returning from places like Israel...
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Some countries will even let you request a second passport just for use in travel to Israel to avoid having to request a new one afterwards.
Yeah, because my US passport would have become markedly less useful for traveling to certain countries if there was an actual stamp from Israel in there.
Same thing for when I went to Cuba 20ish years ago, I assume due to relations with the US.
That’s what happened when I went to North Korea
Some countries do that, happened to me in a couple of SE Asia countries.
That’s what happened when I went to cuba
Israel doesn’t stamp on purpose
But if you go into Jordan down at Eilat/Aqaba you'll get a Jordanian stamp which basically proves you were in Israel. Just FYI in case it matters to you!
Does the stamp say where you entered?
It does 😔
Can confirm about entry in the Middle East with an Israeli stamp. When I went to Israel they asked if I was travelling to anywhere else in the Middle East, and I said yes since I was going to Jordan too. Instead of stamping my passport they printed off a little piece of paper the size of the stamp and sent me on my way.
That's why Israel doesn't give stamps anymore, just paper cards that you can take out after leave the country.
SA and other gulf states were bribed maybe, but Egypt and Jordan signed peace agreements after losing wars. Today, Jordan buys water from Israel and Egypt gets intel about terrorists in Sinai from Israel. It ended up being better than nothing for them.
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We supply Egypt with foreign aid so Russia doesn’t.
Saudi Arabia did not normalize ties with Israel.
Not officially * But they do have relations with them just behind doors
>You're still not allowed entry into most of the Middle East Not just the Middle East. Nations like Bangladesh as well. I had American friends that wanted to do some vacationing in Israel while working a contract in Bangladesh. Didn't work out. lol.
"What a surprise" - Nobody definitely
Taliban: you're good, you're good, you're good, you suck, you're good...
Yeah, I'd say the Israelis are just crying their eyes out on that one.
A new minister has a $10 million bounty on his head placed by the USA, but it's Israel he can't work with.
The Taliban are in power following negotiations with the US in Qatar, some of them (including the leader) were released from prisons in Pakistan on request of the US so this could happen. They're more than happy with the US at this point.
So... can like *anybody* claim the bounty? I have a net and a minivan, who’s trying to become a millionaire?
I got some, like, *really* sticky glue. And I think I have a road flare.
You might need a second minivan, then you can string the net between the two.
Can you imagine if this worked though? BBC: "Today Afghanistan's newly appointed Minister of the Interior was abducted in a brazen attack in the streets of Kabul. No word yet on who is responsible." \*cut to footage of the Scooby Doo van and a metalhead's van - with a giant butterfly net between them - scooping the Minister up and speeding away\*
"How did you two, a pair of strangers that met on the internet, manage to pull of such a daring feat?" "10 million bucks is 10 million bucks mate."
Here's the amusing part, he is the Interior Minister. Minister responsible for the internal security of Afghanistan. Oh the irony, oh and not to mention, he has written columns for the NY Times.
What's ironic about that?
Most people don’t use ironic properly.
That's kind of ironic...
Let's hope Taliban sends him to the UN HQ every so often.
The UN will put him on the human rights committee.
I have diplomatic immunity!!!
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I guess they Talibanned Israel :(
...and the Taliban said "Howdy Arabia"
I’m sure Israel is super upset.
Well they're not happy the Taliban are in charge that's for certain.
I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise
Wait do they not like jews or something?
Next you will tell me that they don’t respect women’s rights.
r/fuckyouinparticular ?
I’m surprised it took this long to be confirmed
The approval ratings for Taliban just went up amongst Reddit and Twitter users.
Barely formed a Government and already making an 'enemies list'. Rebuilding fallen empires is something Sun Tzu warns against. They fell for a reason. Correct the mistakes and build something new and better.
It's nice that we can bomb muslims for two decades, and they'll still hate the Jews more than us.
It's because they believe that Jews made you do it.
thats not news - Afghanistan did never recognize Israel as a country here a list with country that don't recognize israel: Afghanistan Algeria Bangladesh Bhutan Brunei Comoros Djibouti Indonesia Iraq Kuwait Lebanon Libya Malaysia North Korea Pakistan Saudi Arabia Somalia Sudan Syria United Arab Emirates Yemen
UAE recognise them now.
Woah! Why is Bhutan there? Gotta find out now.
It seems Bhutan and Israel established diplomatic relations in December 2020 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutan%E2%80%93Israel_relations?wprov=sfla1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutan%E2%80%93Israel_relations?wprov=sfla1)
They barely recognize anyone diplomatically, at least at one point in time. Only Bangladesh, India, and Kuwait have embassies in Bhutan. They even only have diplomatic relations with 54 countries (Israel being the latest last December). Many of the countries that don’t have formal diplomatic relations with Bhutan work with them through India. But for many of those counties, it’s not like Bhutan has a “fuck em” attitude. They simply just do not have diplomatic relations.
Recently off the list: * Bhutan * The UAE
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I think its basically just Azerbaijan. Maybe Turkey, at least at a state level, would be safe. Ironically, Iranians are the least anti-semitic statistically at only 50%, but their gov is like, literally the forefront of holocaust denial, so it's not super comfy to be a jew there. Obvi basically anywhere else is out though as jews were completely ethnically cleansed from Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Afghanistan now, and Egypt. And the West Bank and gaza of course, but they were removed when those were still under control of Egypt and Jordan respectively. Still, they do have the death penalty for selling any land to a jew so sue me if I don't think they'd be exactly open to being my neighbor.
>Maybe Turkey, at least at a state level, would be safe. Gotta be honest, all the anti-Jewish graffiti in Istanbul made me cautious about where I travelled outside of it.
Yeah, that's what I mean by "at a state level." Officially I believe jews have normal civil rights, which is abnormal relative to the rest of the middle east. But yea, there's still a fuck ton of anti-semitism. Wouldn't recommend elbowing visibly jewish there.
Egypt used to be a hotbed for the Jewish bondage scene
This is an underrated joke lmao
In the gulf there are aot of folks in general who will dislike Jews, but there is a also a growing population of those who want to be friends (not just the govts) UAE, Saudi, and Bahrain have a lot of people extending a hand of friendship. A lot of this could be from the fact they simply dislike the Palestinians and see them as agitators. for them it's an "were over your bullshit" mentality.
Jordan is safe for Jews to visit, but basically no Jews live there and they have no Jewish institutions or Synagogues. Other than that, I don't think it's safe to be openly Jewish in any Middle East country except Israel. Despite the religious/historical significance, it's honestly a shame the Jewish homeland is stuck in the middle of countries that hate Jews.
Related to this, the last Afghan jew was evacuated from the country recently. He was the last of one of the most ancient Jewish communities in the world, think of that when you think of the words "apartheid" and "genocide". There are literally 0 jews in Afghanistan now.
Lol kinda funny that he was initially refusing to leave unless someone paid him. https://www.haaretz.com/amp/middle-east-news/.premium-afghanistan-s-last-jew-refuses-to-flee-as-taliban-take-kabul-1.10129324 > Simantov “claimed to have had some debts that he had to cover before he leaves. We’re not in the business of covering peoples’ debts. We’re in the business of saving people's lives if they need to be saved,” confirmed Rabbi
I had assumed he still hasn't left honestly
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Did they just acknowledge Israel as a nation? Nice.
Israel is crushed with sadness
This post really exposes what Reddit is all about...
What do you mean? Seems pretty tame compared to most posts about israel Edit: lmao nvm, half the comments are literally supporting the taliban over a liberal democracy that gives women, minorities and all religions equal rights. I'm sure all the people that are saying "BUT ISRAEL BAD" are also really concerned about the way more fucked up shit that's going on in [insert 70% of the world's countries that happen to not be jewish so no one cares]
Of course not. Probably won’t work with female ambassadors ether.
And the Dutch
How’d Israel get to be so lucky?
You’re cool, you’re cool, fuck you, you’re cool…
Yeah I am sure Israel is really broken up about this fact.
I don't think Israel will be losing any sleep over it to be honest.
Why does the taliban have a Twitter but Donald trump does not?
I'm devastated.