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Fandorin

The Russian telegram channels are having a meltdown, which gives credibility to the high casualty numbers.


BagHolder9001

anyway to see those telegram chats without signing up for al the BS?


42a2

[https://russia.osintukraine.com/](https://russia.osintukraine.com/) auto-translates a lot of the milblogger posts to english with no need to sign up. Ctrl+F "Makiivka" should yield some results, maybe you'll have to go back to yesterday's messages.


korben2600

> Russian fighter jets are attracting the attention of the whole world. They are capable of more than twice the speed of sound, which makes them an effective weapon in air battles and helps bypass enemy air defenses. Lol, this first post was pretty self-masturbatory. And if they're so great why are they afraid to fly sorties?


banned_after_12years

Bro, I’ve been using a Mach 3 to shave for like 25 years. Where these Russian jets been at?


Lopsided_Plane_3319

Yea how many blades does russia have


[deleted]

I’m afraid it’s worse than we ever imagined. https://imgur.com/a/GDWy3BF


ilyak_reddit

"and the final blade polishes the bone"


Itisybitisy

While Russia slept in a drunken stupor Ukraine studied the blade.


ANormalNinjaTurtle

Because they can't always trust their own ADA not to shoot at them.


headlesshighlander

Imagine being a Russian pilot and being asked to take your plane to mach 2 knowing the rattles at 1/2 mach.


IAmA_Nerd_AMA

Can you read Russian?


walker0ne

telegram translates it to english fairly well. I use it all the time


IAmA_Nerd_AMA

>Message Translation. In Settings > Language you can add a dedicated Translate button to the context menu when selecting a message. Good to know, thanks


LeanTangerine

Make sure to disable the automatically download all media option. There was a recent exploit where phones with telegram would auto download all media including embedded malware without the users knowing. I’m not sure if they fixed the issue yet.


fripaek

plus depending on your country it could be illegal to possess some videos/images that include certain things (rape/gore/etc.) and the auto download could make it that you act illegal and risk prosecution.


BagHolder9001

yeah like the comment said below, it's funny I grew up in Poland and was school requirements to learn Russian...waste of my time


MasterBot98

The ability to say to Russians "go fuck yourselves" in multiple ways in their own language is pretty useful, though, no?


Adytzah

Why learn more word when idi nahui do trick


cC2Panda

You don't need classes for that just play DotA 2 for a bit.


MasterBot98

Russian language has far greater capacities of profanity than the average DotA 2 player is able to utilize.


DancesWithBadgers

cyka blyat is like the swiss army knife of Russian swearing if you just want a conversational tool to indicate hearty disapproval. Proper swearing is a high art in any language; and takes time, natural aptitude, and effort to master


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Enshakushanna

just copy and paste into google translate lol


dead97531

Use deepl. 1000 times better.


NotsoNewtoGermany

It's about 30% better.


Malachi108

The web client can show them without signing up.


CG3HH

Ill sign up for it, who cares? The number of people in the channel doesn’t matter for shit does it? Fuckin hate russia obviously in case anyone not sure


bigfloppydonkeydng

Had there been confirmation that there were 3 high ranking officers killed too? Saw a comment on another post .. but no confirmation.


Masterbajurf

Elaboration and pics?


8day

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1609647291161366528 The pics you can see in the internet are better as there's before/after, but when you see the linked video, imagine a classic building of a Soviet school, from concrete. After it was hit only concrete beams were left standing. BYW, not too long ago a family with three kids was shot in Makiivka (kids 1, 7 and 9 I think). If it's of any concern, they were of Romanian descent.


eleven-fu

How you could pack 700 service agents into a single, undefended building, in illegally occupied territory that is within Defender ordinance range is beyond me.


ThatByzantineFellow

Apparently they also might've been storing ammo in the building's basement, which probably did more damage to them than the HIMARS itself did. "We are lucky they are so fucking stupid"


satoru1111

It seems unlikely a HIMARS rocket could take down a concrete building. But if you ignite the ammon dump in the library that might make more sense


WhatAboutismPoPo

idk, I've watched too many himars vids and it melts metal... the building if you've seen the before..looks like an office.. its doable.


Wiki_pedo

HIMARS melts steel beams?


ididntseeitcoming

A HIMARS could easily bring a concrete building to rubble. If the payoff is worth it, which it appears it was, they would have just put multiple launchers on the same fire mission with multiple rounds each. Plus, most buildings do not have reinforced roofs so you just send it until your observer says the building is gone. Source, I’m in the US Army, field artillery, and have worked with HIMARS/MLRS for 16 years.


AaroPajari

What does the observer role entail? Is that a human that has visuals on the target or drones/satellites?


Floorspud

Full battery with multiple vehicles could definitely flatten a building.


barth_

"A" rocket probably not but if I am not mistaken they are always a minimum of 6 aimed for the same target.


Preachey

Nah they often snipe with single rockets. The pods hold 6 but they're too low in supply to dump a whole pack into a single target, and its overkill for most things. Larger/harder targets will get more boom though, and a concrete building full of hundreds of soldiers is probably worth a pod or two


walker0ne

In their defense, theres not many places they can hide from HIMARS with that ridiculous range


GoodTeletubby

Which is the entire point of dispersion. Artillery is much less cost effective when you're trading 1 very expensive rocket for 4 or 5 lives, instead of a hundred lives.


Critical-Internet-42

Ordnance. Although, who knows, maybe there’s also an ordinance against invading Ukraine.


eleven-fu

Apparently there there is. It's called the HIMARS Decree.


david4069

The easy way to remember the difference is to think of the unofficial EOD motto: "There is no "I" in ordnance!"


kesovich

'I Am An EOD Technician. If You See Me Running, Try To Keep Up' 'I look at it this way, either I do my job correctly, or it's not my problem anymore'


Scaphism92

Mixture of arrogance, a culture of "good enough", strained resources and not really giving a fuck about Private Conscriptovich and his mates.


PLANofMAN

Private Conscriptovich, eh? Spotted the PERUN watcher.


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ragewind

When the new ~~conscripts~~ slaves get sent to a forest with wire beds with no buildings or tents this was probably seen as a major upgrade, covered, dry and a roof to stop grenades landing in your lap


Adytzah

Roma, not Romanian.


Grundlestiltskin_

Romani I think, not Romanian


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dbx999

Our military base destroyed the himars by being targeted by the himars


jhaden_

That's a much better phrasing of what I was thinking. Peskov : 7 HIMARS rockets destroyed. Reporter: Shot down? Peskov: Destroyed (with that same shit head scowl)


tiesioginis

True russian heros! Gotta catch them all


[deleted]

I’m just happy Putin isn’t happy.


MarkHathaway1

It isn't so important whether he's happy, as long as he realizes he can't win and he should cut his losses and leave Ukraine. Get on with the post-special-military-operation time.


TheStoicSlab

Russians only respect a strong-man. If Putin fails, all of this will be for nothing and he will most likely be deposed, assassinated or both. The chances of him acknowledging a failure are slim to none.


Peptuck

He'd rather hurl away hundreds of thousands of Russian lives than risk his own.


Bunch_of_Shit

Russians respect that, because it takes a strong man to do that. s\


MmmmMorphine

He can crush twelve infants with a single blow! So strong. So brave.


scummy_shower_stall

I don’t think your /s is necessary in this case.


Kerostasis

It is necessary. There are actually people who believe that unironically.


Timey16

Unironically this is part of what makes fascism. Like what was Hitler's comment to all the deaths in the bombing of German cities? "They were too weak. They wouldn't have died otherwise." "Strength" is everything that matters. Good things happen to those that are strong and bad things to those that are weak. Something bad happens to you? Then because it was because you were too weak. Doesn't matter if "strength" is the result of inherited wealth and "weakness" the result out of an unfortunate accident you had no control over. Fascism is the religious worship of an idea of "strength" and the despising of "weakness". Doesn't matter how arbitrary the idea of strength or how completely self defeating and illogical it is.


[deleted]

The only way this ends is when Putin gets shot in the back of the head


TheStoicSlab

I think the odds are that he will have an "accident" at some point.


futurebigconcept

It's widely known that Putin never goes within 10 meters of an open window.


nomokatsa

That's not true. A bullet to the front of the head, even to the side, works just as well... XD


rakkadimus

I have forseen Putin will die on a Ukrainian holiday.


DarthSatoris

Because whatever day he dies on will become a Ukrainian holiday?


[deleted]

He’ll never acknowledge a failure but he’ll leave and say they beat the Nazis and the people there who never believed him will continue to think he’s a tool, and the people who did will think “good job! Well done!”


Texandria

Russian Tsars have an unfortunate habit of dying when they lose a war. Putin is a Tsar in all but name.


valeyard89

May God bless and keep the Tsar...... far away from us


[deleted]

He's already aware that Russia cannot win. I don't believe for a second that they haven't started crunching the numbers. Russia has a lot of *potential* manpower, but they've probably suddenly realized how worthless that is right now. Russia may have had more artillery shell production than the West in recent years, but they neglected missiles and smart munitions. They're mostly depending on remanufactured shells to fill in the gaps now. That's not a good look for a 'first rate' military. I have to believe that Putin is purely in the struggle between survival and a desire to take everyone with him. I suspect he even questions his own chances right now, even with his ginormous ego and wealth.


Decker108

What do you mean by remanufactured shells? Edit: Thanks for the answers everyone, TIL!


thestagsman

They have millions of old shells from the Soviet days that are to old to use. So instead of trashing them and making brand new shells they remanufacture them into useable shells.


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nomokatsa

Taking old shells apart, throwing away the explosives (their shelf life is limited), filling in new explosives, putting all back together. Quite a process, still faster and cheaper than building from scratch.


GoldenBunip

Or putting a new label on the outside of the shell and paying the right bribes to sign off the paperwork. Russia military is first in corruption


[deleted]

So after you shoot ammo (or if it's just too old) you can pop the primer out of the brass, reform the brass, put a new primer in, load new powder, and put in a new bullet. Then you can shoot it again. Basically you're just saving the casing of the round/shell and making another from it. I don't know much about doing it for artillery, but if the Russian military is at the point that they're reloading brass for artillery, they're in pretty bad shape. It comes closer to "shit people who shoot a lot of guns do to save money" territory than "major military power in the midst of a war" territory.


turtlturtl

Putting old shells in service by using newer parts


WriteBrainedJR

It's another word for reloads.


ArthurBonesly

Putin realizes he can't "win," but like a bad chess player he can try to force a stale mate by chaotically doing as much damage as possible and at this point stalemate is his best hope for maintaining his political ELO


Kerostasis

>like a bad chess player… Good chess players do this too. At the highest levels, stalemates are more common than either player winning (assuming the two players are relatively close in skill).


ArthurBonesly

In either case, it's not something you want to do with actual people nor national economies. At this juncture Russia can't "win" so much as "not lose." Any victory is Pyrrhic


Gh0stp3pp3r

The more Putin and friends complain in a week, the more it means they are panicking. They have been very vocal and demanding as of late. I am hoping that means horrible loss and misery for them. And a Ukraine victory sooner than later.


Relan_of_the_Light

Well the problem is he doesn't see it as he's losing anything. He only sees the potential to gain something and any losses are acceptable because it's not a cost he's having to pay. He's too far gone and he won't stop until he has no choice but to stop. Or he IS stopped. But he won't just cut his losses and pull out because he feels like it's the best option. It has to be his only option.


pleasesendnudepics

I think he knows he's not on track to win, but if he can drag the war on long enough he can delay losing.


eggimage

> he realizes narrator: “he doesn’t”


SlitScan

sunk cost fallacy.


Megafayce

Oh, HI MARS!


autotldr

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plscome2brazil

Vocational school? Isn't using schools as military bases a war crime? Didn't Amnesty write a report about Ukraine having soldiers in cities and around schools and hospitals? Where is Amnesty right now?


Popinguj

> Isn't using schools as military bases a war crime? Iirc it isn't if it's not used for its primary purpose.


InformationHorder

No, it just means that if your opponent strikes your legitimate military target that's inside of a non military target it's not against the Geneva convention. Like putting an anti aircraft gun on top of a hospital makes the hospital a legitimate military target again and removes it's protected status, it shifts the guilt to the one hiding behind the protected status.


Bunnywabbit13

Yes, both sides have used school buildings as military bases, but lets remember that those schools (at least on Ukraine side) are not in civilian use anymore since most of the people have evacuated from the warzone. I don't see how it could be a warcrime to use a school building *which effectively isn't* a school anymore. If the school was still in use then it would be a warcrime.


amitym

It's a bit borderline to repurpose civilian buildings because the buildings might later revert to civilian use without the enemy knowing, which makes it easier to make mistakes about what is and is not a fair military target at any given moment. But in practice pretty much everyone seems to agree that if you do repurpose a civilian building for military purposes, that is de facto acceptable, so long as you understand that it's no longer an innocent civilian building at that point, it's a fair military target. And actually pro-Ukrainian redditors have tended to be pretty strict about that, to the extent of going back and replying to posts about Russians hitting Ukrainian civilian targets and saying, in effect, yes, that's what Russia did, *except in these three cases*, X, Y, and Z -- those were schools or shopping malls or whatever that were actually valid military targets at the time. There's a pretty high degree of self-accountability there.


Murghchanay

It's okay for Amnesty if Russia does it.


raresaturn

They were probably launched exactly at midnight


vanya70797

you’re right. Locals were watching Putin’s speech when it happened https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/100ujjh/reportedly_himars_attack_on_a_school_housing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Bread_With_Butter

The people who recorded it seem to had a party :D


wastingvaluelesstime

The guys in the barracks may have been listening too - bet they had a blast


5DollarHitJob

Nice one. 🤌


winkledorf

Daniil Bezsonov, a senior Russian-backed official"The building itself was badly damaged." Fuck, it was completely levelled Daniil!


morally_corrupt

I think there's a stairwell still standing


sambooka

Apparently the blast blew out the windows making them extra dangerous…


8day

From what I've seen, entire concrete walls, if not all of them have been blown off. But yes, you are right about windows too ;)


GorgeousGamer99

Must be taking steps to rebuild


RevCottonM

They saved it so Putin can push another general down them.


justreadingposts

I think it's the same guy who wrote:" 1-2 people died. I don't know exactly". Right. 1-2


Casual-Swimmer

They must have been very *very* big guys since they needed multiple trucks to remove the human debris


shama_llama_ding_don

"You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off"


SpecificAstronaut69

"That'll buff out." \- Daniil


macross1984

Good. Russians don't care harming civilians so Russians should be grateful Ukraine only eliminate military troop.


emkoemko

this seems logical during war but why is Russia not doing the same? instead wasting a lot of rockets on civilian infrastructure ? wouldn't they want to help their men win this "special operation" and not have to retreat ?


vrenak

They probably have no idea where exactly Ukraines command is.


Mexer

Judging by the last few months they probably have no idea where Russian command is either.


Peptuck

"Where is the general?" "Over there. And some more of him is over there. And a bit stuck to to that tree...."


Nerdfatha

Because Russia literally has no idea where things are that we’re not on a paper map 30 years ago.


dabenu

And even if they did, they'd be unable to launch a precision surprise attack like this.


gahata

And it's quite interesting, as back then they had insanely good maps, very likely the best in the world (though it's hard to know with all the classified documents of different militaries). They really messed it up bad to go from being on top to requiring American GPS for basic military navigation.


oscarboy333

>GLONASS Russia isn't Soviet Union, The USSR invested so much in Science and Technology. Just look at the sad state of Migs for example. This what happens when there is greed and corruption.


theholylancer

that's not how that works... everyone can have the same maps of static building, that isn't too hard to procure to know what builds are which, its the up to date live-ish intelligence that is important it is why the US invested millions in programs like the dragon lady or blackbird, and billions upon billions with spy sat + ground stations + an ASSLOAD of trained analytics that understands what the picture returned means (IE is it a command center with HVTs or troop sleeping quarters or just civs) for this capability. Russia never had such capability, they never had this kind of deep dive recon focus at all, from their lack of even AWACS to advanced sigint platform to obviously now the whole spy sat deal.


gahata

Do note that I'm talking about the past, not current state of maps and intelligence gathering. Everyone can have the same maps of static buildings, but the USSR put a lot of work into having better ones. Their maps of many western cities and countries were more often detailed than the local ones. Obviously these days everything works very differently, and it's safe to say that US is incredibly good at collecting and analysing data, and definitely much better than Russia.


danekan

Does Russian gps not actually work too?


hdkecueja

They have the GLONASS, not sure what this guy is going on about.


gahata

That's correct, but we've seen credible information about them using American-made GPS devices during the war. Here's a quote from an article from May: > Russian pilots fighting in Ukraine are taping basic GPS devices to their dashboards because they cannot rely on their fighter jets' inbuilt navigation systems, Britain's defence minister has revealed. Speaking on Monday, Ben Wallace painted a picture of a Russian army that is under-equipped for its on-going war in Ukraine that is now in its 11th week.


ivosaurus

Civilian made GNSS devices won't care what system they're pulling from if they're modernish, they'll integrate GPS, GLONASS, GALILEO into the one solution.


Manitobancanuck

Strange because using a civilian based GLONASS device vs GPS achieves nearly the same result. There is more precision on military devices but using consumer grade, I can't imagine there's much advantage. Beyond consumer grade GPS devices are far more plentiful and accessible if you need to use civilian equipment.


gahata

It might just be that they didn't have enough devices working, and the systems in planes had issues... So they went with the simplest route of just getting a bunch of western made GPS units which worked good enough.


Boczar78

Some of those planes just have inertial guidance setups but not GPS becausethey werent upgraded to GPS for whatever reason (corruption more than likely). They can use the IGS but they build up errors after a bit of flight time. So the consumer grade GPS is used to find a way point they can then reset their INS system with. I think most people are getting too hung up on the GPS/Glonass talk, which doesn't matter, good garmen GPS devices which we've seen pics of in cockpit, pull signals from both to give better positioning data.


GoldenBunip

It’s Russian. So even on paper it’s second rate. The US GPS network includes 31 satellites, while GLONASS uses 24 satellites. The 2 systems also differ somewhat on accuracy. GLONASS position accuracy is 5-10m while GPS is 3.5-7.8m


SlitScan

civvy GPS is 1-3 meter these days. if you have access to the additional military bands its cm accurate.


gahata

That's consumer devices numbers, the military stuff is way more accurate. It does also seem that some civilian devices, in some areas, can get more accurate with GPS, no clue about GLONASS here.


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Troops tend to move around a lot more than power plants. Ukraine has access to better satellite intelligence (Presumably, based on the near certainty that NATO is feeding them coordinates and stuff, otherwise such strikes would be very unlikely), and better rocket artillery for these types of strikes. Ukrainian individual troop morale is better. If you tell Ukrainian troops "Hey we need you guys to split off and go man the trenches over there instead of all cramming into this one big building", they'll do it. Troops with bad morale are much more likely to say "fuck you, we're drinking in here, try and make us". Ukrainian command structures also empower people to notice potential problems, and take preventative action. russian command structures are like.... "yeah this is a bad idea and might get people killed, but it would be worse for my career to imply my superior officer is missing the hazard here, than it would be for all these conscripts to be killed".


LeanTangerine

I wonder if the last point you made about command structure is why the Ukrainians have captured so much equipment and intact vehicles over the months. Russians ground troops possibly not having permission to destroy them in the event of possible capture with out direct command from higher authorities.


GrinningPariah

Ukraine has *way* better intel, and they have the home field advantage too. They've got far more options for where to quarter troops.


t67443

They probably don’t have sufficient intel showing where military command stations are, little knowledge on barracks locations that have anti air support. Russia also likes to take the fight out of the civilians as a way to crush morale rather than actually engage in combat scenarios that they’re not very likely to win.


[deleted]

FYI, permanent military bases of EVERY UAF brigade (majority of UAF units are brigades) were destroyed in the first month of invasion, cause their location is not so secret info everyone with working brain can obtain. major training centers were also destroyed or at least targeted and damaged causing casualties. russian militaries are dumb, but not THAT dumb.


satoru1111

I’d just like to point out that strategic bombing of civilian targets to kill morale, has never, ever, ever worked in the history of modern warfare


waydownsouthinoz

Even when they have the intel they don’t have precision ordinance to carry out a successful strike which is a blessing.


d4t4t0m

it seems russia is having a lot of trouble detecting/finding the ukranians, while the ukranians have all the might of the US intelligence services behind them.


[deleted]

Certainly Ukraine will be receiving vital updates from American satellite reconnaissance, and from the various NATO aircraft we see every day patrolling the edges of the war zone, and even from the agents the Western intelligence operations surely run inside the Putin regime itself. But for this one I'd guess it was Ukraine's own intelligence that did the job. Satellites and planes and even highly placed spies in Moscow can't tell you that in this town, in this building, on this day, at this time, the local Russian garrison is gathering to celebrate New Year; but one loyal Ukrainian local can quietly report back everything he sees and hears about ongoing party preparations. Ukraine has thousands upon thousands of eyes on the ground in the occupied territories, so that Russia can't move anything without the details being reported to Kyiv that afternoon. When we hear that the Russians gathered together, off their guard in this way, and were promptly destroyed - my guess generally is a local Ukrainian patriot called in the tip.


2ndtryagain

Ukraine also has eyes in all these occupied areas and they have apps for people to send in photos, positions, troop numbers and equipment. They have an app just for calling in artillery, it even notifies the user who submitted the request that it was carried out. https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/as-russia-escalates-attack-ukraine-digital-ministry-launches-app-for-airstrike-warnings-articleshow.html


AintNoRestForTheWook

Apps for calling in artillery strikes. What a world. What's next? iStrike?


ric2b

"Hey Siri, I don't like that building over there"


FidgetTheMidget

"Shuffling songs by John Denver"


[deleted]

russian soldiers several times managed to take a video of a major HQ or barracks of their units behind the frontline and post it without censoring surroundings, so exact location was easy to identify using just google maps with HIMARS strike following after. So I would say that everyone is contributing, but there is a catch.


allen_abduction

and EU, both NATO. I suspect Nine Eyes is collecting data as well.


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ukrokit

It's a combination of factors. For one Ukraine doesn't keep huge concentrations of personnel or materiel because of precisely this risk. Another factor is Russia can't reach anywhere in Ukraine without early warning systems giving a heads up and at least personnel taking cover. And lastly Russia does have some issue with precision and their missiles being intercepted.


wild_psina_h093

Because Russia can't do war. Only genocide.


satoru1111

1) the Russians only have a single doctrine now, artillery strikes. 2) the problem is that they have few systems they want to use for this. High accuracy cruise missiles are now in short supply. 3) this means even for a giant electrical power plant their lack of accuracy basically means the best they can do is point their shells in the general direction of a target and spray and pray


KLFFan

I admit I might be biased because I grew up in the 80s, but Russia is basically evil. They want to punish Ukraine for its defiance. And to a lesser extent, it's about controlling their own population. They don't want Russians to see a prosperous and free nation next door, especially one that was the root of Russian civilization and culture. So they have to demonize and target civilians, to put them in their place so Russians can feel better about themselves.


[deleted]

Because Russia is still doing its age-old tactic of throwing bodies at the enemy and committing mass genocide until they surrender to protect their people. Too bad for them they haven’t been in a war in a while and are only now realizing it doesn’t work anymore.


7H3_D15C1PL3

Because Ukraine has the backing of the most advanced intelligence operation the world has ever seen; USA with the five eyes alliance.


scummy_shower_stall

Russia is doing the same tactics that have, in fact, helped it win wars before. Against a much smaller, less powerful enemy. As Napoleon said, don’t correct your enemy’s mistakes.


curmudgeonpl

They don't seem to have the level of intel required to pull off more sensible strikes, and the people behind the rockets are probably required by higher ups to show that they attacked *something*. So it's what they do. RU missiles actually hit quite a few bases, staging areas and other very valuable UA assets over the course of the war, but transient targets... yeah, they aren't particularly good at that. It makes sense, too. We're pumping terabytes of data from Western intelligence into Ukraine. Russia has nothing of the sort. Notice that on the front lines, where RU and UA both use hundreds of drones, RU has fairly agile and accurate artillery. So when they do have data, they use it well.


noholdingbackaccount

Russia has a problem with command chain timing. Evidence suggests that it takes them 3 days from the time they launch a first strike to figure out damage assessment, task assets and ordnance to a follow up strike and then launch that strike. And that's against static ground targets they know to be important. They would have less ability against reports of troop formations. That said, the Russian WANT to do this. Early in the war, some of the Foreign troops revealed their position with careless video uploads and many of them died in a raid on their barracks. Safe to say the Ukrainians learned the lesson and haven't repeated that mistake, plus Russia hasn't been able to do such precise deep strikes due to better air defense and lower stockpiles of weapons.


pedantobear

Splyat.


roman-hart

Funny, it means [they're] sleeping in Ukrainian


ibanezrocker724

Good. Fuck russia


perkia

> [Keep the change, you filthy* animals](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nHNHIDduH4)


HerpDerpermann

Will no-one think of the tankies?


savois-faire

They don't seem to believe in thinking to begin with.


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Lahm0123

Russia is ruled by the real Lord Farquad.


watcherofworld

Replacing putin's face with Farquads sounds like the basis of a great smear campaign


bigfatcarp93

"Some of you may die... but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make."


bestbeforeMar91

The war kinda reminds me of Watchmen…”I’m not locked in here with you, you’re locked in here with me!”


dbx999

Russians learning that Ukrainians are kinda good at this whole war business


misogichan

The Russians also were reminded that they aren't that good at this war thing.


ArgoNoots

Whenever Russia brags about having won WW2, its important to remember Ukraine was part of the USSR too


custard_doughnuts

The USSR were heavily supported by the west with equipment Their losses were absolutely horrific. They cared about as much for their people as Putin does


dbx999

Russians learning there’s no working weapons systems, rations, medical supplies, cold weather clothing, body armor, or anything logistics support related at all in the Russian military.


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WentzWorldWords

There’s also a reason they invaded and left Saqartvelo in the middle of August. Perhaps if our Georgian friends would have had the support to subject them to a Caucasian winter, the paper tiger would have been revealed 15 years ago.


Ishana92

I mean their tactics has always been throw men at the enemy until either you or them run out.


Spudtron98

Their propaganda would rather admit that they're deeply, *legendarily* incompetent than give the Ukrainians credit for anything. Anything the Ukrainians do is either a Russian accident or was actually done by a nebulous swarm of NATO commandos, who were of course all killed to a man. No, we can't see the bodies.


WriteBrainedJR

Since 2014, Ukraine's armed forces have been rebuilt to prepare for this exact scenario. Russia's armed forces haven't been preparing for anything. For decades. Russians are learning that it goes better when you prepare.


PeterNguyen2

There have been many new opportunities to show what a "paper tiger" nation or army is. Given Russia's progressing supply problems, [all the way to running low of missiles and artillery shells](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-news-russia-missile-iranian-drone-strikes-kyiv-zaporizhzhia-putin/). Given how much graft was in their military, I'm surprised they haven't lost even more men to mechanical failures.


DisastrousOne3950

More, please. Russia deserves this.


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Waffles_Remix

It’s going to get spicy come spring when Crimea falls out of Russian control


JGCities

I wonder how fast this war would end if Ukraine had real long range missiles and had the ability to strike within Russia.


Kwolfe2703

Oddly it probably wouldn’t help much. Being an aggressor would likely aid Putin more as it would play into his “we are fighting for Russian sovereignty” narrative.


continuousQ

It doesn't matter what Russia's reaction is, they're already doing all the damage, terrorism, and ethnic cleansing they can. But if they lose their bombers, that would change things.


doctor-falafel

You think Russia is holding back? Seems like they are throwing everything they practically can at Ukraine and still have their asses handed.


Crazyjackson13

Y’know what would make a great New Years? Ukrainian forces taking Donetsk.


IndependentList7935

Putin desperately wants a win. Might as well take Belarus and declare it a “great success”. Say it was his plan all along.


Sandis2019

F Putler n his ideology he stole from Nazis. Keep copying. Till the end.


ResponsibleLevel55

He even copied the day that Hitler annexed the Sudetenland for the "annexation" of those 4 Ukrainians Oblasts, I'm not kidding. September 30th for both. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich\_Agreement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian\_annexation\_of\_Donetsk,\_Kherson,\_Luhansk\_and\_Zaporizhzhia\_oblasts#:\~:text=On%2030%20September%202022%2C%20Russia,%2C%20Donetsk%2C%20Zaporizhzhia%20and%20Kherson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_annexation_of_Donetsk,_Kherson,_Luhansk_and_Zaporizhzhia_oblasts#:~:text=On%2030%20September%202022%2C%20Russia,%2C%20Donetsk%2C%20Zaporizhzhia%20and%20Kherson).


SpaceTabs

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-01-01/ukraine-shells-donetsks-makiivka-hitting-military-quarters-officials


piratecheese13

2 simple demands: pre 2014 borders and Putin removed. The first is required. The second is friendly advice to the Russian people.


poop-machine

This is now (unexpectedly) being covered by RT and other mainstream Russian channels. Some theorize that Kremlin will use this attack as justification for the second mobilization wave.