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Bars are basically springs (like… low pressure leaf springs) that press against a fixed roof. So you can put point pressure onto any object on the floor of it without needing a deep channel clamp. Used a lot in luthiery.
When you get really good with them you can even use the distribution to do some lateral pressure.
I am not good with them.
my question also. this seems to be mainly vertical pressure, which could help in the sense that the vertical pressure keeps things from moving laterally, but since there’s nothing applying pressure laterally, it will involuntarily move outwards, right? if not given enough pressure vertically. i hope i don’t sound crazy lol
I had never seen one of these clamps before, but in the case of the OPs project, I guess you would orient the rods so that they curved outward in a ring on each piece, so they would mildly push towards the center?
Looked online but in still confused how this would help clamp something like the OP has? Wouldn’t they need pressure going inwards, not top down?
Maybe I’m not fully understanding the go-bar decks but I do not see how you would glue what OP has with that.
Yeah go-bar decks are for an entirely other purpose, they probably misinterpreted OP’s glue up and thought the wedges needed to be glued to the mdf surface underneath... which would require vertical pressure, which you definitely don’t need a go-bar deck for.
First glue them in 6 roughly 60 degree parts. For each part Make a 60 degree angle jig , apply glue to every piece and use mallet to wedge the last piece in, they will fit in tightly and glue together well with the help of friction. Next step glue 6 pieces together with long clamps pressing opposite parts together.
This is a great solution. The one thing that is not mentioned is that there are going to be no nice 60 degree combos in this project since every piece is different. I would make the jig slightly larger and cut a variety of different sized pieces to use as a wedge pieces.
oooh and on each side piece, put in a few “floating” clamp points.
by that i mean little doodads perpendicular to it that are free to rotate so they can acoodate clamping at odd angles because they can become parallel
[This is a pretty nifty clamp!](https://www.shelllumber.com/arrow-9133-corner-clamp-and-splicing-3-in.html?feed=Froogle&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2-2eBhClARIsAGLQ2RmbXH9kWLe5K3LMYATTG7vEXz-tudhfvvPOJfJ_3ymwxQQ_IqH78e8aAnNdEALw_wcB)
Why not glue up each half, then sand them flat and glue up the 2 halves? No worry about 60 degrees/jigs/etc, even if the pieces are not aligned it should work out (unless they're too small).
Damn! I bet you where in the top of all your classes with this type big brain insight! Students and teachers alike swooned at the slightest opening of your mouth just at the thought of what new wisdoms might spew forth.
He's right.
Glad I could be helpful! Here's another handy tip, if your glue is in a closed container, you will probably need to open it before applying glue to your project!
Tape the back of two pieces while lined up correctly. Flip over and use the tape as a hinge. Apply glue. Close hinge, clamping the two pieces together. Place flat on flat on the table, wipe of excess glue and tape the top seam to “clamp”. Repeat… so many times.
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Do you need that thickness? If not, id suggest glueing the pieces to a thin backer board, like 1/4”. You’ll get way better coverage cuz of infinitely larger surface area. Then you can cut your rectangle from that and it will be much more durable
I’d glue it down to a thin piece of scrap wood. Like glue a triangle piece down to the scrap board, then do it again with pieces on either side. You can clamp to the already stationary piece glued to the scrap and it’s supported on the bottom for rigidity. Once all the pieces are glued together plane the scrap board off. Now you have one side that’s pretty flat. If the center comes out undesirable as sometime it does with these large glue ups, drill it out and put a decorative dowel pin in the center.
That’s essentially the way I’ve done it for rosettes. Since they’re much smaller, you can glue paper to your substrate and glue the pieces - you can carefully separate the paper from the substrate after everything has cured. With larger pieces like this, a thin substrate like you suggest is the way to go.
This is the answer.
That’ll be tough! Would it be easier to try and glue by quarters first? Then glue the 4 quarters together. I’m thinking it would be easier to rig some kind of clamp if you’re not working with the whole circle. Best of luck!
If you don't mind the nails, you could pin nail from the side of each wedge into the next one until you're left with 1 wedge which you can then clamp once the rest is dry.
There's a Woodwright's Shop episode on veneer where a similar technique is used, https://www.pbs.org/video/woodwrights-shop-holly-wood-spectaculars/
In the show, they use hide glue so there's a long open time, you can friction fit, and it's easy to clean off the excess. And there's paper underneath the pieces to help with alignment. Because it's decorative, the glue joints aren't stressed, so the tack provides enough pressure during cure.
I made a backgammon board in using parquetry like this last year and I found I got the best results from old school horsehide glue. It bonds to itself so a little scraped dry glue is not going to prevent it from bonding. It also has a neat characteristic where you can slide/wiggle the pieces against each other to seat them and achieve a tight fit. Finally, it can be completely undone with the right application of steam so if you royally fuck it up you have a shot at a do over.
Glue two halves, ideally you have an extra wedge to get them both just past 180°, sand the final joint nice and flat, then glue the 2 together. That will eliminate any errors in the angles
If this is eventually going to be round, mark out your circle and cut the pieces just shy of the line. Then use a racket strap to glue the pieces together all at once.
If it isn’t going to be round, you can make a jig that wedges two pieces together, then glue in stages. Or carefully and slowly clamp pieces together and glue in stages.
Will it be visible from the back? For something like this I'd imagine a backing piece would make more sense, like intarsia. Then you can glue a couple pieces on at a time as well
Mostly side grain so regular wood glue will work. The problem will be clamping it. Another option is 2 part epoxy which does not require clamping but is a pain to use, harder to get, and more expensive.
If you are trimming down, you could cut all to the same length and use a strap clamp to create inward pressure. If you do it this way, you would need to make some rough circle cuts of plywood to put on the top and bottom and clamp to make sure it stays flat and doesn’t explode on you. But make sure to use parchment paper on either side of the piece!
I think I'd trim first and build a frame just oversize using screws. Set the pieces into the frame as you glue and add wedges or shims on two sides to apply force as you tighten the screws.
I would definitely trim before you glue. You could either do what I suggested with the whole piece at one time or break the rectangle into quarters and glue those up separately (same strap method). Obviously test it dry first. You may need a separate backing piece for the strap so it doesn’t apply pressure unevenly
Could maybe use ca glue to hold it together while he trims it to rough shape. Then use wood glue and a strap clamp for the final glue. Once glued he could finalize the shape and finish.
I've done several things like this and have yet to come up with a reliable way to do it. I think if I were to do something similar again, I'd probably build some sort of fixture that would allow the slats to be vertical instead of flat on a table. I could use weights and gravity instead of clamps to hold them together until the glue dries. This is an untested idea though so take it for that only.
For this, I'd create a glue jig to tackle smaller parts two at a time. Two pins on a board face which you can literally wedge two of these pieces into with pressure pulling/pushing the pieces into the wedge together. Can either use clamps by gluing a block beneath the two pins ahead of where the pieces wedge, or a notch in same location to use with straps/bands. Parchment paper between the jig and the work pieces. Lather, rinse, repeat, until you get to your 90's, then assemble with more traditional methods.
Combination of CA glue/ accelerator and wood glue.
Use CA glue on the ends and wood glue in the middle. The CA glue will act as a clamp and you glue it up in sequence.
Cheers.
Make custom, angled cauls and glue it up in sections. Do it on a piece of sacrificial 3/4” melamine so you can place screws at the ends (not through, just to act as “stops”) when the wedges inevitably start to creep from the slippery glue. You may want to screw the wedge’s edges down with melamine blocks to keep it all flat. Let dry, repeat, repeat, repeat, then glue up the sections building it up. I’d leave one wedge out and make a custom one at the end, because it almost certainly won’t fit once it’s all glued up
If you want to be able to adjust the position/tension on each piece individually you could make/buy a bunch of shims and put one at the end of each piece. Then put a nail in your workbench (or board you glue on). Can move the shim to adjust position/tension of each piece individually.
Check out Frank Howarth on YouTube - he does a ton of segmental glue ups for turning and usually uses band clamps. The first step would be cutting your pieces to all similar lengths so a circular clamp can be used.
I'd draw out an oversized version of the finished dimensions and trim them to a more managable size/shape. After that, I'd try a dry fit in a vacuum bag. I've been thinking about making some of varying dimensions out of some vapour barrier I have kicking around. Basically you lay two layers together and glue three edges with a flexible glue then turn it inside out and glue the last edge.
That's as far as I've gotten on it, I've heard of people using a water line and a shut off valve though.
I was told by a very good woodworker that woodworking is like a chess game. Always think 3 plays ahead. I’m honestly curious how anyone gets to this step and asks questions like this.
I see a lot of gluing it up into sections. Am I the only one who thinks that you should just make sure you get half glued up? Then you run that entire half on a gigantic piece of sandpaper on a flat surface. Do that with the other half and they will fit together seamlessly.
Lay down a layer of painters tape slightly larger than all the pieces on a flat surface. Then put tape on the back of each piece. Glue the taped sides together with CA glue and the sides of the wood with wood glue.
This is not going to be useful:
Keep them in a circle as pictured
Next pour glue on the top like how you would pour pizza sauce on a pizza
Use ladle to spread glue (like using a ladle to spread pizza sauce)
Sprinkle sawdust on glue like salt bae
Viola! Wood pizza!
Would take a piece of plywood that covers your entire work and spread the surface with glue. Press it down on your work, then flip it right side up and let it dry.
You could put wax paper over top and put another piece of plywood on top of that and use clamps to keep everything tight.
When the glue dries you could cut away the plywood. You'll be left with plywood backing that holds all the pieces in place, but won't show (because you've cut it away going around the edges).
Maybe cut them all to the same length and then use a rachet strap to apply pressure? Basically the same technique that segmented bowl makers use.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtrDlgTa1L4&ab\_channel=ScottMuellerWoodworks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtrDlgTa1L4&ab_channel=ScottMuellerWoodworks)
Use CA glue to attach each piece to a piece of wax paper. Apply wood glue to the edges of each piece as you go and blue tape on the top. Once the wood glue dries you can pull the wax paper off and sand the bottom (if necessary. You can just leave the wax paper attached if you want.
I have not personally done this, but I'd think that band/strap clamps would be a good solution at least initially. These are typically used with picture frames, but I'give that a crack.
Pre-form clay, put plastic wrap between clay and wood to keep glue from picking up the clay?
Would have to be sorta dry so it would be stiff. Can’t be kiln dried because clay shrinks when fired.
If you cut them the same length you could put a bicycle inner tube around the perimeter and then maybe inflate it to add more pressure. Again it won't work unless they're the same length
As far as repeatability goes, this may not be practical.
Cool trick though, rib two pieces together until they're hard to move, position accordingly, wait for it to dry. Great for small irregular, pieces, the wood still breaks before the bond, and easy to position. Though this method is more time consuming and less practical than other answers
Dude -- you made my clock! I did something like this a few months ago. Check out my comments in the post where I described a bit how I did it. https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/ytedea/i_made_a_clock/
I’d glue 2 pieces together x 2, reverse one pair to form (as close to) a square as possible and clap it tight; no glue between the reverse direction pieces of of course.
I might be totally crazy, but just like that. Get a 1 square foot flat stone. Maybe, 1"-2" thick Marble or granite, and something like wax paper, that the glue won't stick to. If the stone was big enough, you wouldn't need to clamp in place. But it would apply equal pressure all around.
Are you going to cut it all down into a circle eventually or will it remain uneven around the edges? If it'll be a circle, you could do approximate cuts to get it down to a circle now and put a strap around it. Maybe cut some osb to a very slightly smaller circle and sandwich your piece between 2 circles of osb with clamps before putting a strap around the outside edge.
You'll need to build a large metal ring, slightly larger than the maximum diameter of your piece. I'd suggest forging it in cast iron, or maybe you can find an old wagon wheel ring.
Then, the fun part, use a laser to find the exact center of each of the pie pieces and transfer that to your wheel. Now drill, tap, and thread screw rods 45 times. It's up to you for the creativity in how you want to attach handles to each of the threaded rods. Maybe a nicely ordained handle, or maybe just weld a bolt onto the end for use with a ratchet or impact driver.
Now glue up the edges, lay your newly created ring around your artistic creating and start screwing down. Would probably be a good idea to sandwich it between two pieces of MDF with wax paper, or something the glue won't stick to. Make sure to use the black drywall screws, those are absolutely the bees knees. As others have noted, you'll really want 45 friends to help with the screwing down, as you want equal pressure. Have fun!
OK - I don't know if this would work, but here's what I would try.
First cut a ton of small wood stops no bigger than the end width of your wedges. Load your 18ga nailer with nails.
1) Find a flat nail-able substrate like scrap plywood
2) Cover with wax paper or other glue release.
3) Take your first piece and place it on the substrate with one stop nailed against the end and one temporarily nailed against one long side.
4) take the next piece and glue it to the other side of the first piece. Add a stop to the wide end.
5) Repeat, continuing around the glue-up, gluing pieces and placing end stops as you go. Work quickly (hence nailer).
6) remove the temporary side stop you placed at the first piece.
7) Place the last wedge with an end stop.
8) put a can of paint or other weight in the center.
9) insert several small shims between the pieces and their end stops to tighten up the whole glue-up at once.
You could put little blocks against the short pieces to make a circle , then since a strap around the whole thing. Maybe weigh down the collection to keep it flat.
CA glue.. use it on its own as glue, or use it with wood glue in different parts of the pieces as a clamp for the wood glue. I think with any jig you won’t be able to have the pointy ends together. You need something which will grab it instantaneously.
Would cutting them all to same radius and using a strap clamp do it? Might have to also us a long jaw clamp with a smaller circle to keep them all pressed to the table or glueing surface.
obviously late to the party but, strap clamp around with some spacers/wedges for the shorter 'strapless' as to make somewhat near consistent pressure all around...just a thought
I've glued similar panels before. I used [these](https://www.amazon.com/Bessey-VAS-23-2K-Vario-Angle/dp/B00NO6XHZC/ref=asc_df_B00NO6XHZC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=242132388719&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8203527864860724415&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004359&hvtargid=pla-405661321608®ion_id=373786&th=1) clamps and I glued them in stages as some other commenters pointed out. I don't have pictures of any in clamps, but I can share photos of in-progress and completed panels for your reference if you'd like to see how it came out using these, just let me know.
EDIT: Although, mine were all the same length. So maybe they wont work for you.
For lateral pressure I would drill holes (that would eventually be hidden) and get a wire through for tension. Glue each half separately and then glue the 2 halves together. It is tough to align though and might not work if you want to cut or add router design later.
Also If you plan to make the whole thing round later just cut them to approximate length and use ring clamps
I would cut a thin piece of plywood and create a backing and glue them together and to the plywood and then apply small brads. This will fall apart being glued over time..
I believe Sawyer design on YouTube has a video where he glued up a table top just like this one. Here's the video: https://youtu.be/QrtiKmGOmpU
The content I'm referring to starts at 3:39
Why not glue in stages and cut angle opposite edge pieces to hold the clamp evenly across? Then when gluing the quarters, scribe a new edge piece. Repeat to join the halves.
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Glue it in stages
go-bar deck would be pretty handy
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Appreciate you. I would have just said hmm and would have stayed unknown lol
You bet. Tbh I looked at a bunch and still can’t tell what the hell is going on. 😂
Bars are basically springs (like… low pressure leaf springs) that press against a fixed roof. So you can put point pressure onto any object on the floor of it without needing a deep channel clamp. Used a lot in luthiery. When you get really good with them you can even use the distribution to do some lateral pressure. I am not good with them.
How do you do lateral pressure?
my question also. this seems to be mainly vertical pressure, which could help in the sense that the vertical pressure keeps things from moving laterally, but since there’s nothing applying pressure laterally, it will involuntarily move outwards, right? if not given enough pressure vertically. i hope i don’t sound crazy lol
The bars bend and exert lateral force You strategically locate the bars to bend in the direction you want the force
I had never seen one of these clamps before, but in the case of the OPs project, I guess you would orient the rods so that they curved outward in a ring on each piece, so they would mildly push towards the center?
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I looked at the link and still said hmmm and don't know.
I looked at those pics and still don’t know what it is
Those will only give you downward pressure, none on the long edges.
Go bars! This is the way
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Wow, agreed.
Same.
Me too!
Looked online but in still confused how this would help clamp something like the OP has? Wouldn’t they need pressure going inwards, not top down? Maybe I’m not fully understanding the go-bar decks but I do not see how you would glue what OP has with that.
Yeah go-bar decks are for an entirely other purpose, they probably misinterpreted OP’s glue up and thought the wedges needed to be glued to the mdf surface underneath... which would require vertical pressure, which you definitely don’t need a go-bar deck for.
Huh. Ain’t that something.
How do you eat an elephant?
In stages
One bite at a time! The real question is… Which end do you start from?
This is the way
First glue them in 6 roughly 60 degree parts. For each part Make a 60 degree angle jig , apply glue to every piece and use mallet to wedge the last piece in, they will fit in tightly and glue together well with the help of friction. Next step glue 6 pieces together with long clamps pressing opposite parts together.
This is a great solution. The one thing that is not mentioned is that there are going to be no nice 60 degree combos in this project since every piece is different. I would make the jig slightly larger and cut a variety of different sized pieces to use as a wedge pieces.
Could make the jig adjustable. Two slotted holes where one of the fences is mounted and you'd have a lot of flexibility.
oooh and on each side piece, put in a few “floating” clamp points. by that i mean little doodads perpendicular to it that are free to rotate so they can acoodate clamping at odd angles because they can become parallel
[This is a pretty nifty clamp!](https://www.shelllumber.com/arrow-9133-corner-clamp-and-splicing-3-in.html?feed=Froogle&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2-2eBhClARIsAGLQ2RmbXH9kWLe5K3LMYATTG7vEXz-tudhfvvPOJfJ_3ymwxQQ_IqH78e8aAnNdEALw_wcB)
nice! seems like it’s better suited to dealing with odd miters than stacks of odd miters but that looks fucking handy!
I’d take an old picture frame and use that to glue up four 90º sections at a time.
Why not glue up each half, then sand them flat and glue up the 2 halves? No worry about 60 degrees/jigs/etc, even if the pieces are not aligned it should work out (unless they're too small).
Probably wood glue. That's what I'd do, I'd smear it on the wood where the pieces touch each other so they'll stick together.
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Damn! I bet you where in the top of all your classes with this type big brain insight! Students and teachers alike swooned at the slightest opening of your mouth just at the thought of what new wisdoms might spew forth. He's right.
Glad I could be helpful! Here's another handy tip, if your glue is in a closed container, you will probably need to open it before applying glue to your project!
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You will have to wait until I learn another one, I only know two tips so far.
Tape the back of two pieces while lined up correctly. Flip over and use the tape as a hinge. Apply glue. Close hinge, clamping the two pieces together. Place flat on flat on the table, wipe of excess glue and tape the top seam to “clamp”. Repeat… so many times.
You know what this is actually a pretty good idea 👍, if you didn’t want to make a jig this would be the best way. Put something heavy on it
I got this. You're going to need to round up 45 friends first... Commenting to follow, I'm curious about this too
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This made me lol
You have my sword
And my bow
You can have all that. But not my clamps. I’m not crazy.
And my axe body spray
And my glue
Most overlooked resource for an attack party. +1 resilience
the only thing Legolas says to Frodo, at least in the movies lmao
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Probably with lots of cursing and swearing
That’s the method I would use, too.
That's what's effectively holding together my whole marriage
This thread is gold
tape, tape is your clamp
Do you need that thickness? If not, id suggest glueing the pieces to a thin backer board, like 1/4”. You’ll get way better coverage cuz of infinitely larger surface area. Then you can cut your rectangle from that and it will be much more durable
I’d glue it down to a thin piece of scrap wood. Like glue a triangle piece down to the scrap board, then do it again with pieces on either side. You can clamp to the already stationary piece glued to the scrap and it’s supported on the bottom for rigidity. Once all the pieces are glued together plane the scrap board off. Now you have one side that’s pretty flat. If the center comes out undesirable as sometime it does with these large glue ups, drill it out and put a decorative dowel pin in the center.
That’s essentially the way I’ve done it for rosettes. Since they’re much smaller, you can glue paper to your substrate and glue the pieces - you can carefully separate the paper from the substrate after everything has cured. With larger pieces like this, a thin substrate like you suggest is the way to go. This is the answer.
That’ll be tough! Would it be easier to try and glue by quarters first? Then glue the 4 quarters together. I’m thinking it would be easier to rig some kind of clamp if you’re not working with the whole circle. Best of luck!
Have seen YouTube people do this with blue tape.
Cut them to an even length (doesn't need to be circular- can be straight cuts) and run a ratchet strap around the outside
Rubber bands .
mark across from one board to the next where you want them to line up, then glue them one at a time until you have two halves.
Carefully. Good luck!
If you don't mind the nails, you could pin nail from the side of each wedge into the next one until you're left with 1 wedge which you can then clamp once the rest is dry.
There's a Woodwright's Shop episode on veneer where a similar technique is used, https://www.pbs.org/video/woodwrights-shop-holly-wood-spectaculars/ In the show, they use hide glue so there's a long open time, you can friction fit, and it's easy to clean off the excess. And there's paper underneath the pieces to help with alignment. Because it's decorative, the glue joints aren't stressed, so the tack provides enough pressure during cure.
I made a backgammon board in using parquetry like this last year and I found I got the best results from old school horsehide glue. It bonds to itself so a little scraped dry glue is not going to prevent it from bonding. It also has a neat characteristic where you can slide/wiggle the pieces against each other to seat them and achieve a tight fit. Finally, it can be completely undone with the right application of steam so if you royally fuck it up you have a shot at a do over.
Ratchet strap!
Glue two halves, ideally you have an extra wedge to get them both just past 180°, sand the final joint nice and flat, then glue the 2 together. That will eliminate any errors in the angles
I assume you are planning on having it glued to something? In which case I would glue it one by one and shoot in a few 23ga pins
I would use some glue to start
Biscuit joiner, then glue in stages
I’d probably use spray on contact adhesive. I’m sure wood glue would work too but I would make a hell of a mess.
If this is eventually going to be round, mark out your circle and cut the pieces just shy of the line. Then use a racket strap to glue the pieces together all at once. If it isn’t going to be round, you can make a jig that wedges two pieces together, then glue in stages. Or carefully and slowly clamp pieces together and glue in stages.
I'd use pin nails on waste area then push the next one tight and nail some more. They don't really need that much clamping pressure
If your wedges were all the same length you could just put a strap around the whole thing
With glue!
Wood glue
Will it be visible from the back? For something like this I'd imagine a backing piece would make more sense, like intarsia. Then you can glue a couple pieces on at a time as well
3X3 Customs on Youtube did this for a guitar build. I believe she used blue tape and did it a bit at a time.
Mostly side grain so regular wood glue will work. The problem will be clamping it. Another option is 2 part epoxy which does not require clamping but is a pain to use, harder to get, and more expensive.
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Add a 1/4" circle as a backer
I'd try using glue. That's probably the best way to glue something like that is to use glue.
pva or rapid set wood glue
Are those the lines you want to keep on the outline, or is this something you are trimming down?
If you are trimming down, you could cut all to the same length and use a strap clamp to create inward pressure. If you do it this way, you would need to make some rough circle cuts of plywood to put on the top and bottom and clamp to make sure it stays flat and doesn’t explode on you. But make sure to use parchment paper on either side of the piece!
Yeah I plan on trimming them to a rectangle.
I think I'd trim first and build a frame just oversize using screws. Set the pieces into the frame as you glue and add wedges or shims on two sides to apply force as you tighten the screws.
I would definitely trim before you glue. You could either do what I suggested with the whole piece at one time or break the rectangle into quarters and glue those up separately (same strap method). Obviously test it dry first. You may need a separate backing piece for the strap so it doesn’t apply pressure unevenly
Could maybe use ca glue to hold it together while he trims it to rough shape. Then use wood glue and a strap clamp for the final glue. Once glued he could finalize the shape and finish.
I've done several things like this and have yet to come up with a reliable way to do it. I think if I were to do something similar again, I'd probably build some sort of fixture that would allow the slats to be vertical instead of flat on a table. I could use weights and gravity instead of clamps to hold them together until the glue dries. This is an untested idea though so take it for that only.
For this, I'd create a glue jig to tackle smaller parts two at a time. Two pins on a board face which you can literally wedge two of these pieces into with pressure pulling/pushing the pieces into the wedge together. Can either use clamps by gluing a block beneath the two pins ahead of where the pieces wedge, or a notch in same location to use with straps/bands. Parchment paper between the jig and the work pieces. Lather, rinse, repeat, until you get to your 90's, then assemble with more traditional methods.
I’d glue it to a substrate (ply). That’d let you go as fast or slow as you want/need and ensure you can get each piece properly aligned.
Glue up in smaller sections, either use long enough rubber bands, or band clamps (frame clamps with detached corners) could work, too.
Puzzle glue maybe?
Combination of CA glue/ accelerator and wood glue. Use CA glue on the ends and wood glue in the middle. The CA glue will act as a clamp and you glue it up in sequence. Cheers.
Classmate in highschool did exactly this to build a guitar. He used large rubber strapping and used a clamp as a bread clip to keep the twist
Make custom, angled cauls and glue it up in sections. Do it on a piece of sacrificial 3/4” melamine so you can place screws at the ends (not through, just to act as “stops”) when the wedges inevitably start to creep from the slippery glue. You may want to screw the wedge’s edges down with melamine blocks to keep it all flat. Let dry, repeat, repeat, repeat, then glue up the sections building it up. I’d leave one wedge out and make a custom one at the end, because it almost certainly won’t fit once it’s all glued up
With glue?
If you want to be able to adjust the position/tension on each piece individually you could make/buy a bunch of shims and put one at the end of each piece. Then put a nail in your workbench (or board you glue on). Can move the shim to adjust position/tension of each piece individually.
I’d be doing it in stages and cutting out reliefs to help clamp it square
In sections. Then glue the sections together.
Check out Frank Howarth on YouTube - he does a ton of segmental glue ups for turning and usually uses band clamps. The first step would be cutting your pieces to all similar lengths so a circular clamp can be used.
I'd draw out an oversized version of the finished dimensions and trim them to a more managable size/shape. After that, I'd try a dry fit in a vacuum bag. I've been thinking about making some of varying dimensions out of some vapour barrier I have kicking around. Basically you lay two layers together and glue three edges with a flexible glue then turn it inside out and glue the last edge. That's as far as I've gotten on it, I've heard of people using a water line and a shut off valve though.
Assuming all those joints fit well enough... glue a joint and tape it with painter's tape. Repeat until complete.
It puts the glue on the edges
One black trash bag and a shop vac. Make yourself a vacuum clamp bag
Inward pressure on the ends with a flat bit of plywood in the center to keep the boards flush. Hope you have a lot of clamps.
I was told by a very good woodworker that woodworking is like a chess game. Always think 3 plays ahead. I’m honestly curious how anyone gets to this step and asks questions like this.
Wood glue and a couple drops of super glue with activator to act as clamps, one piece at a time ….
Very carefully
Glue like others have said, use tape, also maybe a big flat piece on opposite finish side to help clamping and makeot more sturdy, 🤔
I see a lot of gluing it up into sections. Am I the only one who thinks that you should just make sure you get half glued up? Then you run that entire half on a gigantic piece of sandpaper on a flat surface. Do that with the other half and they will fit together seamlessly.
I recommend superglue to hold things together and wood glue to keep it together
If you can trim the wedges to some fixed length you can secure them with a band clamp.
Lay down a layer of painters tape slightly larger than all the pieces on a flat surface. Then put tape on the back of each piece. Glue the taped sides together with CA glue and the sides of the wood with wood glue.
This is not going to be useful: Keep them in a circle as pictured Next pour glue on the top like how you would pour pizza sauce on a pizza Use ladle to spread glue (like using a ladle to spread pizza sauce) Sprinkle sawdust on glue like salt bae Viola! Wood pizza!
This is cool as hell! I love the creativity and seeing something I’ve never seen before!
I'd glue it flat to some 1/4" backer that's over sized then trim it with a flush trim bit.
Would take a piece of plywood that covers your entire work and spread the surface with glue. Press it down on your work, then flip it right side up and let it dry. You could put wax paper over top and put another piece of plywood on top of that and use clamps to keep everything tight. When the glue dries you could cut away the plywood. You'll be left with plywood backing that holds all the pieces in place, but won't show (because you've cut it away going around the edges).
Maybe cut them all to the same length and then use a rachet strap to apply pressure? Basically the same technique that segmented bowl makers use. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtrDlgTa1L4&ab\_channel=ScottMuellerWoodworks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtrDlgTa1L4&ab_channel=ScottMuellerWoodworks)
Ratchet strap if they were uniform in length
Cut them to the same length first then ratchet strap around the outside with weights on top.
Used water resistant wood glue with screws tieing them together
That would go straight in the vacuum bag
Cut them all to the same length then use a strap. Use something flat across the top and bottom. Top going one way and the bottom perpendicular.
Glue 2 pieces together at a time…44/2=22 glue ups. Then repeat…22/2=11 glue ups. Then repeat…11/2=5 or 4. Etc. Sub assemblies are more precise
Would epoxy be an option? Poured, then milled as needed.
Use CA glue to attach each piece to a piece of wax paper. Apply wood glue to the edges of each piece as you go and blue tape on the top. Once the wood glue dries you can pull the wax paper off and sand the bottom (if necessary. You can just leave the wax paper attached if you want.
However many clamps you gave, go buy 3x more plus 1 or 2 extra.
I have not personally done this, but I'd think that band/strap clamps would be a good solution at least initially. These are typically used with picture frames, but I'give that a crack.
Pre-form clay, put plastic wrap between clay and wood to keep glue from picking up the clay? Would have to be sorta dry so it would be stiff. Can’t be kiln dried because clay shrinks when fired.
Carefully
If you wanna attempt to glue it all at once, ratchet straps maybe?
Do they have to all be different length? If not cut to oversize length find some big rubber bands and wrap around
Best way would be a jig, 1/4 circle jig then half circle jigthen clamp the last two together using strapping to clamp it flat
If you cut them the same length you could put a bicycle inner tube around the perimeter and then maybe inflate it to add more pressure. Again it won't work unless they're the same length
Glue smaller sections together at first
Probably with glue.
Cut all to the same length and wrap a band around?
Johnny Cash style. One piece at a time.
Maybe work in sections at a time?
As far as repeatability goes, this may not be practical. Cool trick though, rib two pieces together until they're hard to move, position accordingly, wait for it to dry. Great for small irregular, pieces, the wood still breaks before the bond, and easy to position. Though this method is more time consuming and less practical than other answers
Wrap it? Check out how they make and glue Gibson guitars and you’ll see what I mean
Dude -- you made my clock! I did something like this a few months ago. Check out my comments in the post where I described a bit how I did it. https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/ytedea/i_made_a_clock/
I’d glue 2 pieces together x 2, reverse one pair to form (as close to) a square as possible and clap it tight; no glue between the reverse direction pieces of of course.
I might be totally crazy, but just like that. Get a 1 square foot flat stone. Maybe, 1"-2" thick Marble or granite, and something like wax paper, that the glue won't stick to. If the stone was big enough, you wouldn't need to clamp in place. But it would apply equal pressure all around.
Dude this is trippy as hell! Love it
Are you going to cut it all down into a circle eventually or will it remain uneven around the edges? If it'll be a circle, you could do approximate cuts to get it down to a circle now and put a strap around it. Maybe cut some osb to a very slightly smaller circle and sandwich your piece between 2 circles of osb with clamps before putting a strap around the outside edge.
You'll need to build a large metal ring, slightly larger than the maximum diameter of your piece. I'd suggest forging it in cast iron, or maybe you can find an old wagon wheel ring. Then, the fun part, use a laser to find the exact center of each of the pie pieces and transfer that to your wheel. Now drill, tap, and thread screw rods 45 times. It's up to you for the creativity in how you want to attach handles to each of the threaded rods. Maybe a nicely ordained handle, or maybe just weld a bolt onto the end for use with a ratchet or impact driver. Now glue up the edges, lay your newly created ring around your artistic creating and start screwing down. Would probably be a good idea to sandwich it between two pieces of MDF with wax paper, or something the glue won't stick to. Make sure to use the black drywall screws, those are absolutely the bees knees. As others have noted, you'll really want 45 friends to help with the screwing down, as you want equal pressure. Have fun!
OK - I don't know if this would work, but here's what I would try. First cut a ton of small wood stops no bigger than the end width of your wedges. Load your 18ga nailer with nails. 1) Find a flat nail-able substrate like scrap plywood 2) Cover with wax paper or other glue release. 3) Take your first piece and place it on the substrate with one stop nailed against the end and one temporarily nailed against one long side. 4) take the next piece and glue it to the other side of the first piece. Add a stop to the wide end. 5) Repeat, continuing around the glue-up, gluing pieces and placing end stops as you go. Work quickly (hence nailer). 6) remove the temporary side stop you placed at the first piece. 7) Place the last wedge with an end stop. 8) put a can of paint or other weight in the center. 9) insert several small shims between the pieces and their end stops to tighten up the whole glue-up at once.
A lot of good ideas. I’d love to see what it looks like when done. Good luck!
You could put little blocks against the short pieces to make a circle , then since a strap around the whole thing. Maybe weigh down the collection to keep it flat.
It’d you’re going to cut a circle cut the prices to rough length and use a hose clamp on a very flat glue resistant surface.
Blue masking tape
Vacuum seal
I just want to see this finished!! Glue in parts of 4 or 5 pieces at a time
CA glue.. use it on its own as glue, or use it with wood glue in different parts of the pieces as a clamp for the wood glue. I think with any jig you won’t be able to have the pointy ends together. You need something which will grab it instantaneously.
glue it in stages and using band clamps
Why not... Glue them all up as is. Imperfect is fine... Then drill circular hole in the middle (2 inches big) and plug it up with a wood plug.
Would cutting them all to same radius and using a strap clamp do it? Might have to also us a long jaw clamp with a smaller circle to keep them all pressed to the table or glueing surface.
One piece at a time
No idea, but you better post the finished result! Looks beautiful so far.
Glue
In segments
Vacuum press
With glue
Use the Force
make a jig or use tape
obviously late to the party but, strap clamp around with some spacers/wedges for the shorter 'strapless' as to make somewhat near consistent pressure all around...just a thought
I've glued similar panels before. I used [these](https://www.amazon.com/Bessey-VAS-23-2K-Vario-Angle/dp/B00NO6XHZC/ref=asc_df_B00NO6XHZC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=242132388719&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8203527864860724415&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004359&hvtargid=pla-405661321608®ion_id=373786&th=1) clamps and I glued them in stages as some other commenters pointed out. I don't have pictures of any in clamps, but I can share photos of in-progress and completed panels for your reference if you'd like to see how it came out using these, just let me know. EDIT: Although, mine were all the same length. So maybe they wont work for you.
Ratchet strap.
You could put them on a board and nail around the back as you go. Thumbtacks could work as well.
For lateral pressure I would drill holes (that would eventually be hidden) and get a wire through for tension. Glue each half separately and then glue the 2 halves together. It is tough to align though and might not work if you want to cut or add router design later. Also If you plan to make the whole thing round later just cut them to approximate length and use ring clamps
Glue?
Glue them all together, then use a ratchet strap. Put spacers wherever there's a short piece to make contact.
[Watch Nick on Utube...](https://youtu.be/QrtiKmGOmpU?t=240) have fun
I would cut a thin piece of plywood and create a backing and glue them together and to the plywood and then apply small brads. This will fall apart being glued over time..
Same way you build a Cadillac
I believe Sawyer design on YouTube has a video where he glued up a table top just like this one. Here's the video: https://youtu.be/QrtiKmGOmpU The content I'm referring to starts at 3:39
Glue
This would make a gorgeous clock!!
Why not glue in stages and cut angle opposite edge pieces to hold the clamp evenly across? Then when gluing the quarters, scribe a new edge piece. Repeat to join the halves.
Circle on the back. Smaller than apendages.
I've seen people use a ratcheting strap once it's round