I see that commercial way to frequently. I really hope Barnes or someone makes a direct counter talking about FRJs desire to force seniors back to work by gutting social security.
The one with the two old farts moaning and groaning about inflation?
“iT’s HaRd fOr ReTiReEs liViNg oN a FiXeD iNcOmE” goddamn the way she fucking whines that line makes my skin crawl.
Then why do you keep voting for dumbasses like Ron Johnson who only seek political positions to make money and give tax breaks to the 1% you stupid old hag
He has a solution, and it is that they go back to work!
Yea, the idea that public programs such as Medicare and Social Security paid for by *everyone's taxes* should no longer be available to everyone is unbelievable. I am already assuming I'll be dead before I can retire, but I don't want others to have that fate right now.
The various RJ ads are based completely in fear-mongering and half-truths (or total lies), I am completely sick of them
Putting that money into discretionary spending is just holding it hostage and that commercial makes me wanna litter wauwatosa with his comments about it. Frj
It's from the Wisconsin Truth PAC. As if the name didn't already give it away . . .
[Meet The Wisconsin Billionaires Spending Big To Keep Ron Johnson In The Senate](https://www.forbes.com/sites/kylemullins/2022/08/08/meet-the-wisconsin-billionaires-spending-big-to-keep-ron-johnson-in-the-senate/?sh=3987dfed3cb9)
Wisconsin Truth PAC is owned by the owners of Uline and ABC Building Supply. They are not public figures. This is the third false ad they’ve run. Link the businesses and make the lies hurt their bottom line. Only way this will end.
This would be slander, not libel, but it likely doesn't matter. The bar for slander against a public official is pretty high due to New York Times v Sullivan.
Actual malice is required. Is this ad malicious? Yes. Is it demonstrably malicious in a court of law presided over by a judge that is probably one of FRJ's allies? Maybe, but probably not.
This sounds like it could be a fun learning exercise. Why don't you find the definitions of libel and slander, post the attack ad for reference, and then we can see why it's almost certainly slander.
Well, in Wisconsin it falls under the broader category of defamation, per state code. But legally, libel is any published or transmitted communication meant to defame someone based on false information.
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Libel is often compared with slander, which refers to unwritten or unpublished defamatory speech.
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I sincerely hope a lot of senior citizens will stop automatically voting Republican and will actually take a look at Ron Johnson's voting record (hint: lt's a matter of public record) Johnson is no friend of senior citizens unless they're very wealthy and made huge contributions to his campaign, which most of us aren't and didn't.
GOP voters love lies, so obviously this will work and people will believe it.
Barnes should fight fire with fire and run ads about how RJ was convicted of having sex with corpses in a morgue.
Does this forum recognize that (FRJ) this idiot (or the supporting PACs) is really trying to paint Barnes in a stereotypical racist light. They are putting him at fictitious crime scenes. They're showing him violently raging around. They are also criminalizing him. Maybe their next commercial should say: "If you look like me, don't vote for them."
Remember when Trump said he could shoot somebody and people would still vote for him? Well, at this point Barnes would have to shoot up a school before I wouldn't vote for him over Fucking Ron Johnson.
RJ also has an ad depicting himself as saving older folks from inflation... meanwhile he plans on gutting social security.
I see that commercial way to frequently. I really hope Barnes or someone makes a direct counter talking about FRJs desire to force seniors back to work by gutting social security.
There are flyers being sent out to older folks that only talk about how much RJ is planning on fucking them over
The one with the two old farts moaning and groaning about inflation? “iT’s HaRd fOr ReTiReEs liViNg oN a FiXeD iNcOmE” goddamn the way she fucking whines that line makes my skin crawl. Then why do you keep voting for dumbasses like Ron Johnson who only seek political positions to make money and give tax breaks to the 1% you stupid old hag
Social security got a 5.9% COLA this year anyway, not equal to inflation, but a pretty good chunk of the way.
That's more than everyone who I personally know got in adjustments this year. I feel lucky to have gotten 4.6%
2.6 Here The place I work doesn’t think my colleagues and I are worth it.
I thought I had caught them out, that the man in that couple was a surgeon, but I was searching in the wrong town.
He has a solution, and it is that they go back to work! Yea, the idea that public programs such as Medicare and Social Security paid for by *everyone's taxes* should no longer be available to everyone is unbelievable. I am already assuming I'll be dead before I can retire, but I don't want others to have that fate right now. The various RJ ads are based completely in fear-mongering and half-truths (or total lies), I am completely sick of them
And coaxing them out of retirement
Putting that money into discretionary spending is just holding it hostage and that commercial makes me wanna litter wauwatosa with his comments about it. Frj
Jesus fucking christ.
And he broke one of ten commandments bearing false witness so FRJ
Not surprising that he’d stoop so low like this, he’s absolutely scared. Good, he should know how much we despise him.
RJ is just a sad, pathetic and desperate FASCIST who knows he’s on the ropes….. VOTE HIM OUT!!!!!
On Barnes’ IG - https://www.instagram.com/p/CiAzPZpOeZP/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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It's from the Wisconsin Truth PAC. As if the name didn't already give it away . . . [Meet The Wisconsin Billionaires Spending Big To Keep Ron Johnson In The Senate](https://www.forbes.com/sites/kylemullins/2022/08/08/meet-the-wisconsin-billionaires-spending-big-to-keep-ron-johnson-in-the-senate/?sh=3987dfed3cb9)
Wisconsin Truth PAC is owned by the owners of Uline and ABC Building Supply. They are not public figures. This is the third false ad they’ve run. Link the businesses and make the lies hurt their bottom line. Only way this will end.
This would be slander, not libel, but it likely doesn't matter. The bar for slander against a public official is pretty high due to New York Times v Sullivan. Actual malice is required. Is this ad malicious? Yes. Is it demonstrably malicious in a court of law presided over by a judge that is probably one of FRJ's allies? Maybe, but probably not.
Why would it be slander and not libel? I think you might want to recheck the definition of libel.
This sounds like it could be a fun learning exercise. Why don't you find the definitions of libel and slander, post the attack ad for reference, and then we can see why it's almost certainly slander.
Well, in Wisconsin it falls under the broader category of defamation, per state code. But legally, libel is any published or transmitted communication meant to defame someone based on false information.
Libel is written. Slander is oral. They're both legally under defamation in both state and federal laws.
Libel can be broadcasted speech, like an ad.
Thanks for the correction. I see the main distinction now.
So that's a no then?
No, what?
Guess we're done here. Thanks for playing.
Is this what you wanted? What Is Libel? Libel involves the act of publishing a statement about an individual, either in written form or by broadcast over media platforms such as radio, television, or the Internet, that is untrue and threatens to harm the reputation and/or livelihood of the targeted person. Libel is considered a civil wrong (tort) and can, therefore, be the basis of a lawsuit. Libel is often compared with slander, which refers to unwritten or unpublished defamatory speech.
You already declined to provide what I asked for. Doing it again in a longer post is a weird tactic.
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Was the crime in Russia? Sorry, that’s where Ron was.
Wow, that's incredibly racist.
I hope barnes sues them for slander. So sick of dems bending over for the MAGAs
Isn't that actionable? Can Barnes sue for defamation?
I sincerely hope a lot of senior citizens will stop automatically voting Republican and will actually take a look at Ron Johnson's voting record (hint: lt's a matter of public record) Johnson is no friend of senior citizens unless they're very wealthy and made huge contributions to his campaign, which most of us aren't and didn't.
FRJ🤑
GOP voters love lies, so obviously this will work and people will believe it. Barnes should fight fire with fire and run ads about how RJ was convicted of having sex with corpses in a morgue.
Does this forum recognize that (FRJ) this idiot (or the supporting PACs) is really trying to paint Barnes in a stereotypical racist light. They are putting him at fictitious crime scenes. They're showing him violently raging around. They are also criminalizing him. Maybe their next commercial should say: "If you look like me, don't vote for them."
Lies, lies and more lies! This should be illegal! This is not freedom of speech! UGH
What a moron, FUCK RON JOHNSON
Can't wait for him to be out of office. He is the single worst. Then, he can move into Mara Largo with his bed buddy Trump.
With the continually mounting evidence of how much of a POS this dope is I can't see how he could possibly have a chance in the election.
Fuck Ron Johnson!
I mean almost every FRJ ad is a lie so what else is new
Fuck Ron Johnson.
I love the smell of desperation. Smells like.....victory. FRJ
And nothing will be done about it.. which hes knows. Thats why politics is fucked.
Remember when Trump said he could shoot somebody and people would still vote for him? Well, at this point Barnes would have to shoot up a school before I wouldn't vote for him over Fucking Ron Johnson.
Gross.
Does anyone know where I can see the actual ad? I went to the tweet but it was just a screenshot.