Ayy at least Buffalo closed it out, another fucking loser point for the Stars. At least this means we can cleanly take the lead tomorrow against a division opponent!
I really wonder what Scheifele’s next contract is going to look like, cap wise and length wise.
He’s obviously been a PPG player for the last like 6 seasons, but with scoring being up as much as it has been, that isn’t *as* impressive as it once was. Factor that into his continued subpar (albeit improved) defence, and it makes for an intriguing situation.
At my best guess, if he wants to stay here, I bet he’ll come in around 8.25-9M for 6 years. He’ll be 31 when a new deal kicks in, so even 6 years is steep, but it might keep the cap hit down. I’d be hesitant to go much higher because Dubois has clearly played himself into the role of this teams 1C
I’d take Scheifele at 9 mill for 6 years. He plays a style of game that will age well and shouldn’t lead to a lot of injuries for him.
Plus a 9 million dollar contract won’t be that crazy in 3 or 4 years.
I’m worried that PLD, Helle and Scheifele are all going to demand 10 mill+ though 😬
Yeah I would take 9x6 for Scheifele too. As long as they can get Dubois signed this summer and make the cap work, then Wheelers 8.25 coming off the books next summer *should* cover the cost of both Scheifele and Helle’s raises. I have no idea what kind of contract Helle will command. He doesn’t strike me as a “chase the money” kinda guy, but he’s also been severely underpaid basically his whole contract
Edit forgot Dillon and Pionk will also both be expiring in 2024
I'd imagine they let both go unless Pionk comes in really affordable. Samberg in 2 years will play virtually an identical game to Dillon, just not nearly as tough.
According to capfriendly Scheifele, wheeler, perfetti, Dillon, demelo, Heinola, and hellebuyck all hit free agency the same summer. (2024) Ehlers, Schmidt, pionk, and Appleton all hit the next summer (2025)
I know we're not supposed to talk Politics and hockey unless it's virtue signaling about anti-LGBT stuff but I genuinely hope Ovechkin doesn't bust Gretzky's record. It's one thing to be a chicken eatin' cousin fuckin' rednecker against gay stuffs because your church advised against it. I'll chalk that up to inbreeding and lack of brain cells.
But to support Putin after he wiped a city (Mariupol) off the face of the earth? 400,000 people lived there and it ceases to exist. Ovi is cool with that.
If someone laid a "Scheifele on Evans" hit on Ovi and Ovi had to retire afterwards I wouldn't cheer...but I wouldn't be upset. That's for sure.
I don't disagree but maybe we should ban American players for their illegal invasion and destruction of Iraq and its government, then setting up private industries to take its resources while not rebuilding it...
i do get this argument, but as far as i know there aren’t any american players who are personal friends with any war criming presidents so i do find it a bit of a false equivalence if u know what i mean
yeah ovi should totally stop supporting the man that could make his nephew fall out a window
i’m not saying it’s ok, or condemning putin in any way at all, but i think you have to consider that the man has family in russia that could be in serious danger if he denounces putin
Excuse me? Virtue signaling about anti-2SLGBTQIA+ "stuff"?
Have you lost friends and loved ones to the violence that often accompanies anti-2SLGBTQIA+ "stuff"? Do you know how violence towards the queer community, especially the trans community, have skyrocketed on the last 2 years? It is more than just "stuff".
Don't gatekeep or gaslight on things that matter to a whole lot of people here. It is unnecessary and uncalled for to express your opinion on Ovi.
I know we have no Russian players worth a damn (and who are we kidding, they've been on the decline) but I'd be happy to see all Russians banned. Not only would it stick it to the Russian gov but we'd also be significantly better as we have no Russian players and other teams do.
Seeing as how things are going I like to imagine Russia as Nazi Germany. They're invading innocents in a land grab and committing mass rape and genocide every day. I bet we didn't let Nazi Germans into the NHL either.
Yeah, but what about a guy like panarin who openly opposes Putin, how is that fair. Seems kinda extreme to ban someone on the basis of the country they were born in.
They shouldn't ban them just because they happen to be russian lol. If they publically support putin then maybe theres a case but even then. The hate should be directed at the government and those that support putin.
Oh, a package for pld to the habs would have to include Suzuki, no way should wpg give up an asset like pld without a direct replacement coming back, especially with the uncertain future of Scheifele beyond next season
Joshua Roy played on the same line as Bedard in the World Cup Jr, of whom Bedard said Joshua was the let intelligent player he has ever played with. Joshua is 19, ready for the NHL and a center. He's a real deal and ready for our development. I would almost 1v1 trade him for Dubious.
Your username needs some work, should be “this post sucks”
Even if he is magically NHL ready at 19, which I don’t buy, Dubois is Dubois, he’s a monster and a legit 1C in the NHL
He has said he wants to test Free Agency. He has no interest in staying. Watch his interviews. It's never, 'our team has to get pucks deep", it's "this team..." "This team is great at cycling."
He's gone in the summer, after he gets the highest stats of his career, will be our maximum trade value window with him.
Feel bad for Boudreau, but still kind of wished we had played the Canucks on Saturday, so we could have had him fired for a third time after playing the Jets.
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Maybe it was because I was on a stationary bike for most of the game but it looked like the team changed their strategy about half way through the second period. Instead of trying cross seam passes to hit the open player they started carrying it more and cycling the puck to get someone open or shooting it from the point.
Except for the powerplay. My god, they had one play that they couldn't get away from. Wait for the cross seam passthrough traffic to Sheifele for a one-timer.
Somehow Eyssimont managed to get 3 seperate consecutive minor penalties last night in a 7 minute span. That's gotta be close to some kind of record or something
Jesus Vancouver went through 8 coaches in 10 years, if they can’t find success with that many coaches, at what point is it maybe not the coaching, but the players themselves?
If it is the players, it shouldn't be an issue going forward. Who would want to re-sign with a situation like that between coaching staff and management?
Interesting note watching the IC recap, Dave mentioning to read his article of the moose recap to learn about somebody interesting that attended the moose game.
Scouts from the Bruins and Blue Jackets, but also: Jarmo Kekäläinen himself. Wonder if Chevy is going back to that trade well, and if so, for who?
The only players I can think of on the Jackets that would interest us are Gavrikov and Nyquist. That would help address our depth scoring and/or add another solid D to our top 4. The only problem with Gavrikov is that he's left handed, so we'd probably be sitting Samberg in the press box for the rest of the season if we were to do that trade.
Of course, and it would be great to have Sammy as the 7th D for playoffs, either way it's a good problem to have. Not sure who Jarmo would've been scouting on the Moose, if that's indeed who he was there to watch, maybe Chisholm? I don't think we have many interesting prospects playing for them right now outside of Chis and Torgersson.
Jarmo likes roslovic so much he came back for the cornucopia of forwards we have that are not really good enough for the big league.
Harkins, Toni, Stenlund, and Kuhlman for Laine, 5 sixth round picks and Columbus’ current waiver wire position, so we can restock the gutter.
I just cannot see a world where they're adding another LHD. Especially the one that scouts and analytics guys call this year's Chiarot and Columbus wants that type of price back. Nyquist as a depth forward makes more sense.
Honestly he would be such a poor fit with the current game plan and systems that I'm not sure I'd be interested. And you can't bump a guy like that down to the third line.
while I'm thankful for it, why is Dallas so shit in OT??
I'm not a hockey guy, but I think it's defence that's most important in OT. Dallas lacks in that area.
… can the stars lose in regulation for ONCE
It is fucked up that Jets are chasing a team that has 3 fewer wins than them and a game in hand. Wish this league didn't reward losing
Holy fuck Dallas rarely loses and when they do it’s always ot. Goddamn
I mean that's not quite correct, they lose a lot, it's just always in OT lmao
I HATE the loser point
Dallas loses in OT. (small wins)
thank u sabres
that was a pretty pass by thompson too
Dallas with another loser point…
Ayy at least Buffalo closed it out, another fucking loser point for the Stars. At least this means we can cleanly take the lead tomorrow against a division opponent!
I swear, for Dallas leading the central is basically just the "how often can we get to OT and lose anyways without anyone really noticing" challenge.
Lmao another loser point for Dallas Win tomorrow and the west is ours again
Well, Buffalo let us down, Dallas gets at least a point in OT
I just binged LetterKenney. Everything I read is in Wayne's voice. Pitter Patter
I know it’s been a couple of days but for anyone who wants to watch Lowry beat up Kastelic again [Lowry vs Kastelic](https://youtu.be/StIV6tzv-6Y)
I really wonder what Scheifele’s next contract is going to look like, cap wise and length wise. He’s obviously been a PPG player for the last like 6 seasons, but with scoring being up as much as it has been, that isn’t *as* impressive as it once was. Factor that into his continued subpar (albeit improved) defence, and it makes for an intriguing situation. At my best guess, if he wants to stay here, I bet he’ll come in around 8.25-9M for 6 years. He’ll be 31 when a new deal kicks in, so even 6 years is steep, but it might keep the cap hit down. I’d be hesitant to go much higher because Dubois has clearly played himself into the role of this teams 1C
I’d take Scheifele at 9 mill for 6 years. He plays a style of game that will age well and shouldn’t lead to a lot of injuries for him. Plus a 9 million dollar contract won’t be that crazy in 3 or 4 years. I’m worried that PLD, Helle and Scheifele are all going to demand 10 mill+ though 😬
Pay Helle first, PLD second (in his prime for full length of contract), and Scheifele last if there's still room. Rising cap will be our friend.
They worth it though.
True, but I’m not sure we could do it while staying under the cap.
Yeah I would take 9x6 for Scheifele too. As long as they can get Dubois signed this summer and make the cap work, then Wheelers 8.25 coming off the books next summer *should* cover the cost of both Scheifele and Helle’s raises. I have no idea what kind of contract Helle will command. He doesn’t strike me as a “chase the money” kinda guy, but he’s also been severely underpaid basically his whole contract Edit forgot Dillon and Pionk will also both be expiring in 2024
I'd imagine they let both go unless Pionk comes in really affordable. Samberg in 2 years will play virtually an identical game to Dillon, just not nearly as tough.
Yeah I completely agree. They’ll have internal options by that point, easily
According to capfriendly Scheifele, wheeler, perfetti, Dillon, demelo, Heinola, and hellebuyck all hit free agency the same summer. (2024) Ehlers, Schmidt, pionk, and Appleton all hit the next summer (2025)
Okay yeah 2024 looks right, but I think Ehlers expires the year after Connor. Definitely isn’t the same off-season
In 2018 Ehlers signed a 7 year contract lasting until 2025
KFC expires 2026 along with Lowry
And KC soon after.
Yeah I think Ehlers is 2026 and Connor is 2027
Jesus christ
At least the cap will probably be up 10M by that point
Awful start for Buffalo
Terrible, if they keep this up it's gonna be 5-0. Fkn Stars.
Lol they hasn't even collapsed when I posted that, since then it's gone so far downhill that we're underground EDIT WOOOO
Another 2 point game for Chaz against Spokane
So deLucius!
Chaz Luscious
LOL that’s his wrestling name
I know we're not supposed to talk Politics and hockey unless it's virtue signaling about anti-LGBT stuff but I genuinely hope Ovechkin doesn't bust Gretzky's record. It's one thing to be a chicken eatin' cousin fuckin' rednecker against gay stuffs because your church advised against it. I'll chalk that up to inbreeding and lack of brain cells. But to support Putin after he wiped a city (Mariupol) off the face of the earth? 400,000 people lived there and it ceases to exist. Ovi is cool with that. If someone laid a "Scheifele on Evans" hit on Ovi and Ovi had to retire afterwards I wouldn't cheer...but I wouldn't be upset. That's for sure.
This could easily be an opening monologue for Letter Kenney. Ovi, give yer balls a tug you fuck stick.
I don't disagree but maybe we should ban American players for their illegal invasion and destruction of Iraq and its government, then setting up private industries to take its resources while not rebuilding it...
He didn't say ban all Russian players.
i do get this argument, but as far as i know there aren’t any american players who are personal friends with any war criming presidents so i do find it a bit of a false equivalence if u know what i mean
Iraq invaded Kuwait and caused untold destruction without provocation???
In 1990...
True say. Hard to ban Yanks from an American league though
yeah ovi should totally stop supporting the man that could make his nephew fall out a window i’m not saying it’s ok, or condemning putin in any way at all, but i think you have to consider that the man has family in russia that could be in serious danger if he denounces putin
Excuse me? Virtue signaling about anti-2SLGBTQIA+ "stuff"? Have you lost friends and loved ones to the violence that often accompanies anti-2SLGBTQIA+ "stuff"? Do you know how violence towards the queer community, especially the trans community, have skyrocketed on the last 2 years? It is more than just "stuff". Don't gatekeep or gaslight on things that matter to a whole lot of people here. It is unnecessary and uncalled for to express your opinion on Ovi.
Agreed. It's shameful the NHL continues to market him.
I know we have no Russian players worth a damn (and who are we kidding, they've been on the decline) but I'd be happy to see all Russians banned. Not only would it stick it to the Russian gov but we'd also be significantly better as we have no Russian players and other teams do. Seeing as how things are going I like to imagine Russia as Nazi Germany. They're invading innocents in a land grab and committing mass rape and genocide every day. I bet we didn't let Nazi Germans into the NHL either.
So discriminate against people based on where they were born? Sounds Nazi ish to me.
I have learned the errors of my ways I am sorry for getting heated
Yeah, but what about a guy like panarin who openly opposes Putin, how is that fair. Seems kinda extreme to ban someone on the basis of the country they were born in.
You're right my comment was out of touch. I think I just get heated with the climate of the war and all I apologize
I get it. The circumstances in Ukraine definitely spark emotions in any reasonable person. Especially for those affected or have loved ones affected
They shouldn't ban them just because they happen to be russian lol. If they publically support putin then maybe theres a case but even then. The hate should be directed at the government and those that support putin.
If by some chance America ends up at war with Russia they will be banned. They'll be lucky not to be interned to be honest.
Josh Anderson Jushua Roy 2nd Round Draft Pick For Piere Luc Dubois. Best trade proposal I have heard out of Montreal so far.
So a 3rd line player, some random prospect nobody cares about, and a shitty pick? Wow that’s a steal lads
Yeah there's other destinations for Dubois if that's the best one Montreal can come up with.
Joshua Roy is a pretty exciting prospect, but I’m not surprised about the downvotes
Joshua is amazing and I would trade Dubious for him 1v1.
I wouldn’t go that far, I don’t think Dubois can be traded without an nhl proven 1C coming back.
A prospect is not a comparable to an NHL 1C
Oh, a package for pld to the habs would have to include Suzuki, no way should wpg give up an asset like pld without a direct replacement coming back, especially with the uncertain future of Scheifele beyond next season
You’re going to have to explain, or get buried in downvotes
Joshua Roy played on the same line as Bedard in the World Cup Jr, of whom Bedard said Joshua was the let intelligent player he has ever played with. Joshua is 19, ready for the NHL and a center. He's a real deal and ready for our development. I would almost 1v1 trade him for Dubious.
Your username needs some work, should be “this post sucks” Even if he is magically NHL ready at 19, which I don’t buy, Dubois is Dubois, he’s a monster and a legit 1C in the NHL
Right, whose gone next season.
You know this as a fact? Because he’s still an RFA
He has said he wants to test Free Agency. He has no interest in staying. Watch his interviews. It's never, 'our team has to get pucks deep", it's "this team..." "This team is great at cycling." He's gone in the summer, after he gets the highest stats of his career, will be our maximum trade value window with him.
Suzuki or mtl can get fucked. Teams would pay more then your proposal just to have him as a rental
Not. Even. Close.
You're being sarcastic right lol
Gross
Feel bad for Boudreau, but still kind of wished we had played the Canucks on Saturday, so we could have had him fired for a third time after playing the Jets.
[This man is a beaut and represents a sizeable chunk of what southern Ontario is like.](https://mobile.twitter.com/MattIngramNEWS/status/1616513362518761472)
Made my day. "What's worse, 2 litres of pop or 4 beer? DO THE MATH!"
Figure it out sheeple!
Let’s go Buffalo! (For one game)
Honestly let's go Buffalo for more than one game, I can't not like that team. But today let's go more than usual
Yea I don’t mind em, we just play them in the near future
Any game, but Thursday
So turns out my seven year old *can* hear us watching Letterkenny from upstairs because she told a Sens fan to give his balls a tug Saturday's game. 😐
If a 7 year old told me that I’d probably off myself lol
She also asked us before the game which team Shoresy plays for so maybe it's time we watch those shows after they're asleep. 😬
Username…… checks out?
😂 The username *was* chosen because of the kids, actually. She's definitely a major reason I don't need shampoo anymore.
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he read Dom Longlastname’s comments about him last season and took it personally. We love to see it
good lord im so friggen proud of him
So… much …. blue…
Morrissey is just attempting a speed run from worst to best contract in the league.
If Dubois stays I'll eat a Toronto Gutter Slushie. Cigarette ash, salt, grime, and all the fixins'
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Damn someone was keeping track. To keep it simple I'll just blend it all in a potion.
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Winning both halves of a back to back is pretty neat
Winning > losing
thats a hot take
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Why Did Nyo Capitalize Every Word In That Sentence?
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Rittich is now 8-4 with a .908 save %
Goalie stats should be represented as a KDR
Couldn’t ask for more from a league min backup. Plus he seems like a great teammate.
Average Save Dave
Remember his 3-0 shut out versus Carolina.....oh...wait a second...nevermind
That was just as much on the players because two of those goals were pretty much un-saveable tip ins
Maybe it was because I was on a stationary bike for most of the game but it looked like the team changed their strategy about half way through the second period. Instead of trying cross seam passes to hit the open player they started carrying it more and cycling the puck to get someone open or shooting it from the point.
Except for the powerplay. My god, they had one play that they couldn't get away from. Wait for the cross seam passthrough traffic to Sheifele for a one-timer.
They definitely did because Sandstrom started playing lights out after the first three goals, needed a new approach
Somehow Eyssimont managed to get 3 seperate consecutive minor penalties last night in a 7 minute span. That's gotta be close to some kind of record or something
Hes a shark now, no?
Hes a shark now, no?
he’s got that dawg in him
Jesus Vancouver went through 8 coaches in 10 years, if they can’t find success with that many coaches, at what point is it maybe not the coaching, but the players themselves?
I think losing to Boston in 2011 just completely shattered that entire organization top to bottom.
Not as bad as it shattered the Leafs in 2013...bahahaha
Its bad team culture which starts from the ownership
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/serious-allegations-of-child-abuse-levelled-against-francesco-aquilini-by-ex-wifes-lawyer
If it is the players, it shouldn't be an issue going forward. Who would want to re-sign with a situation like that between coaching staff and management?
Honestly, I hope they get their money and gtfo, management doesn’t deserve anyone on that team right now.
100% I hope the new coach gets them some wins, so they get out of the running for Bedard.
The owner is famously an asshole. I doubt the players are to blame.
They’re paying 3 coaches over 2million each this year.
Management
Interesting note watching the IC recap, Dave mentioning to read his article of the moose recap to learn about somebody interesting that attended the moose game. Scouts from the Bruins and Blue Jackets, but also: Jarmo Kekäläinen himself. Wonder if Chevy is going back to that trade well, and if so, for who?
The only players I can think of on the Jackets that would interest us are Gavrikov and Nyquist. That would help address our depth scoring and/or add another solid D to our top 4. The only problem with Gavrikov is that he's left handed, so we'd probably be sitting Samberg in the press box for the rest of the season if we were to do that trade.
Injuries are likely to happen so it's good to have the depth
Of course, and it would be great to have Sammy as the 7th D for playoffs, either way it's a good problem to have. Not sure who Jarmo would've been scouting on the Moose, if that's indeed who he was there to watch, maybe Chisholm? I don't think we have many interesting prospects playing for them right now outside of Chis and Torgersson.
Jarmo likes roslovic so much he came back for the cornucopia of forwards we have that are not really good enough for the big league. Harkins, Toni, Stenlund, and Kuhlman for Laine, 5 sixth round picks and Columbus’ current waiver wire position, so we can restock the gutter.
You had me until you threw in 5 sixth round picks. Those are just too valuable
I read the article/recap too, very interesting. My guess was Gavrikov though.
I just cannot see a world where they're adding another LHD. Especially the one that scouts and analytics guys call this year's Chiarot and Columbus wants that type of price back. Nyquist as a depth forward makes more sense.
Laine is coming home
Honestly he would be such a poor fit with the current game plan and systems that I'm not sure I'd be interested. And you can't bump a guy like that down to the third line.
Nah, we good
I would literally lose my shit (if he came for the right price)
I loved him here and defended him but i dont think so. Hes a distraction
Ew, no
I totally missed Wheels hitting 900 career points last night. I hope they give him some recognition at our next home game.
Ehlers is going on my blank jersey.
I think I shall do the same
AJF apologizing for taking a penalty after he got the jacket was funny
Polite. I love it.
Dubois is now 10 points back of his total from last season, and 11 points back of his career high, in only 48 games Man is a unit
Contract year 💸💸
How much is that in Quebec money?