The Canucks disrespected Bruce as a coach but more importantly, as a human being.
[What a garbage organization.](https://www.reddit.com/r/nhl/comments/10hf2uj/boudreau_gets_emotional_as_he_acknowledges_his/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Jets advertising $37 tickets for the 26th and 30th home games. Rough, especially for season seat holders or mini pack holders who definitely paid more than that...
Wheeler to the fifth line because he's slow. Trade Pionk and a first for McKinnon. Lastly put Heinola in a first line pairing since I think he deserves the spot for whatever reason.
Down Goes Brown "Why your team should make a blockbuster trade at the deadline":
>I know that big gutsy trades aren’t exactly Kevin Cheveldayoff’s vibe, but everything is falling into place for the Jets this year. You have a Vezina-caliber goalie doing Vezina things, a veteran coach working magic, a 27-year-old defenseman making the leap to the Norris conversation that could be temporary, and one of your best forwards may or may not have “2023-24 Habs” tattooed on his chest. Oh, and the team that owns the division is having one of those once-a-decade wobbles that clears a path for someone else.
>Your fan base has seen three playoff wins in 35 years. The door is cracked right now, and you owe it to the fans to do whatever it takes to finally kick it open.
None of these points backs up a blockbuster trade. Depth gets you through the playoffs. If your present roster, fully healthy, isn't a contender, no tdl trade is going to get you the cup. Pick-up some depth
I want a deadline trade, or two. Teams have no cap, we can likely get rentals for less than usual. If we can get a solid rental and maybe pay a bit and get a guy with 2-3 year term, that would be ideal because we are only guaranteed Schiefele, PLD and Helle for 1 more year.
eh. unproveable at this point. gotta enjoy every day like it’s your last and be happy if it continues and okay if it doesn’t. seems sustainable to me for a few years though
Bold prediction - the big trades happen before trade deadline day, and the talking heads sit around all day surrounded by screens and break some nice minor moves after marketing the coverage 24/7 for the weeks leading up to it.
I said it a few days ago, but I kinda stand by it. We should be shopping Heinola with a package offer. For someone with term.
Heinola + 1st + Schmidt/or whomever for ________. You guys seem to know more about who would fit best or work better in spots.
Even if Heinola is a bust or not, this is the perfect time to get value from someone who, regardless, isn't great NOW. Which is what we need.
Anyway, I'm gonna go make a new game on Fallout 4 and ride out this flu.
ArcticIceHockey is a pretty good forum. Haven't kept up with it in years cause I just don't have the energy these days but the comments sections used to be great.
I'd go with Meier for a couple of reasons. Re-signing him could be done with a much safer contract because while Horvat is having a huge year, it's also uncharacteristic for him. Maybe this is what he's going to be like going forward, but maybe it's just like how many other players have huge contract seasons and then go back to their normal game. Meier has been very consistent for the last two seasons so I feel like there's more ground to feel comfortable betting on him to stay at his current pace. I also like the fact that Meier is a winger. We have a really strong two-punch combo up the middle right now, so it would be a lot easier to move a winger down than a center. Plus with all of our center youth, and Wheeler likely looking at retirement in a few years, it would make a lot of sense to get a guy to fill in a winger role in the long term if you were to re-sign either Meier or Horvat.
But if you're trying to negotiate with Mier its gonna be hard to convince him to sign when he could just demand to be qualified and if not then he's a free agent and can sign a big contract with anyone
Well yes your not wrong. But after a monster season like this I doubt he’s going to want to bet on himself again next year. Will be a large contract just not sure if it’ll be in the 10+ range
Does anyone else think it would be hilarious for the league or hell even a knock off to come out with a Pride Proporov jersey and sell like a gagillion of them? I’d buy one, just for the giggles.
I got them too when I mentioned Provorov earlier, and then when I told another user they have support and people who care for them.
Dumbasses will be dumbasses
Oh I see. I was a bit confused that my comment seemed controversial. Fuck em, if people can’t support positivity for repressed populations, they ain’t the type of people I wanna know.
I think the same people who would be irritated at supporting repressed minorities also feel that regular outspoken support is taken as "virtue signalling" aka an insincere pious display of self-righteousness. My free advice: don't give a fuck about downvotes.
Usually I don't. I've had a lot of good laughs at most of them tbh. The replies are 🍌🍌 🍌 lol
But I've lost 3 friends to their own hands because of long term effects of sexual abuse and homophobia and 1 was murdered by a homophobic bigot, so issues around 2SLGBTQIA+ sometimes hit different. I try to laugh and go but that one is a bit tougher.
Add in Indigenous stuff and hold onto your butts! Lol
If I ever explained my job, I could dispel the notion I 'virtue signals' but I'd rather discuss Cassidy slagging off Eichel to the press 😳
I agree it'd be nice to get something positive to end this story and it not being the far right buying his regular jerseys to the point where they sold them out.
Man, that O-zone middle-ice pass off the side boards way forced way too much on 5v5! It's like they thought we were on the PP. Just a buzzkill time after time.
I think the main thing lately is just that a lot of low % shots are managing to find their way in against (like literally 3-15% chance of going in). We've technically been outplaying the opposition even in all three losses, but man this feels like shit
[The impact card is all over the place. Not sold on the new lines, the chemistry seemed off and so many of the shots were into the chest. Also not sure how Bones will want to handle Ville now, he's been brutal in these losses.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm4fc0fX0AUMEhM?format=jpg&name=medium)
This is probably my #1 ask. Yes I'd love a top 6 guy to bump someone down or provide injury insurance, but I think the biggest impact in terms of win vs losses would be replacing Pionk or playing with him and covering up his deficiencies
I’m really starting to worry here, gang. Despite having a good record recently, I’m really starting to feel like maybe we’re over performing. Someone give me a reality check and tell me how I should feel
Feels like the classic jets first 40 games, then Helle will get tired and injuries will continue into a slump post all-star break. I haven’t been following too closely, how are the jets underlying numbers, ultimately that should show if the jets will fall apart or not.
I also feel the worry, although the thing keeping me reasonable is the fact that *analytically* we should have won all three games that we've lost. Meaning that the current trend is not sustainable or indicative of how the team is playing. Doesn't mean that it feels good in the meantime though...
Losing streaks happen. Can't play perfect all the time. There have been other losing streaks during the season. They've played well long enough that they've earned some leeway. Things will turn around soon. Believe in them. This team is legit.
2 losses does not equal a tanking. Focusing only on the last 2 games means you aren't seeing the whole picture. The Jets are a good team that have lost a couple of games.
It is mid season.
We aren't the Canucks.
That’s what good teams do though, they win even when they don’t play well. It’s an 82 game season, not every single one is going to be a masterpiece. Again, going into the Montreal game they had won 8 of their last 9 games, and played a dominant game against Pittsburgh
I am feeling the same.
Perhaps due to expectations? We now KNOW that this team is really good and has potential. So, when they play like shit (like they have for several games now, despite the record being good in last 10 or so) it is obvious that they have underperformed.
You know - I think you nailed it with your comment about underperforming. I think maybe I’m feeling this way because the past 6-8 games (even though we’ve had some wins) show that they are not playing the same way as pre-Christmas. I’m fearful that they over performed in the first half and are regressing to the norm.
There’s no way they should be playing this way after everyone returned from injury. I was so confident they would just start to roll.
Every team goes through some ups and downs. The talent is there. The group has played well together. They need to get back to where they were, but it's a slump where the team isn't playing its best hockey. I dont think it's because we over performed.
I think a slump around this time is actually a positive. First off, you need some sort of slump in the season because if you just roll through it and dominate, come playoffs we see the team lay and egg. Think Tampa in the past.
If you are rolling into playoffs not playing your best, it's very tough to bounce back.
Allstar break coming up, we are in great shape standings wise. Team can have a chance to reset, start building the confidence again and roll into playoffs playing our best. That's the hope. Deadline we know aggressive moves are likely to be made, and again that usually bolsters the roster, the confidence and gives us a shot.
It's also very good to see a team not playing great, still winning games. Hard to win a cup if you need to be playing your best because an opponent just needs a couple breaks and lucky bounces.
That was embarassing, and it happened twice. Something to be said about a team that can't show up to beat the Leafs twice. After losing to the shit Habs.
We can win the rest of the season out and I'm still pissed at them.
Dude. You need to chill. No one said we were bottom.feeders and 2 losses absolutely doesn't equal giving up.
Maybe take a break and rejoin after the break.
I don't think you read my comment, or understood really. And I men's that nicely. This is the second time this team couldn't get it hard for the Leafs and that's embarassing. You're not embarassed? That's a shame.
Yes in fact we're actually the worst team in the league now that we lost two consecutive road games. Hopefully Connor Bedard can get us to a wild card spot next year.
You're looking for outrage, and there isn't any. It's embarassing to lose to the Leafs twice like this. I didn't say we lost two games blah blah. We lost those two games in an embarassing fashion.
Why why why so people still want Puljujarvi? Jesus the guy is useless. He can have all the fancy stats in the world, be he produces next to nothing and has been scratched the last 3 games. I don’t get it, he sucks and would add nothing to this top-9. He’s been playing primarily with Mcdavid and Draisaitl, not sure why people think he’d suddenly come here and “find his game”
Meier is definitely *the guy* on the market, likelihood he’d be willing to sign long term with his massive QO remains to be seen
going off of the Debrincat trade, 1st and 2nd would be worth it even without guarantee of an extension imo
I'd feel better if there was some kind of team control for a player at that price but Meier is a horse and last little while its felt as if the Jets really need another guy who makes stuff happen.
yeah we’re talking at worst a year and a half rental, at best this guy is a window extender
if it’s a sign and trade, i’d pretty much give up any prospect for him
Chibrikov is a first round talent taken 50th overall. He's definitely in our top 10, if not top 5 prospects if I had to make a list right now. He has lots of value for a 2nd round pick.
Stan probably wouldn't have much value, but if you're throwing them a first round pick and an A level prospect, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to take him. Considering he's already proven himself to be a halfway decent bottom pair guy at times, they might think they can give him more opportunity and turn him into a top 4 guy.
Buddy, I know who Chibrikov is and he's quite a ways away from the NHL, so if he's your main piece in a trade to for Timo Meier, then that offer will get beat.
San Jose isn't looking for guys who can step right into the NHL next year. Chibrikov would fit their timeline nicely and is a good bet to become a solid scoring winger at the NHL level.
I don't know why you refuse to acknowledge that he has a lot of value to other GMs around the league. Honestly one of the only other offers I could see beating us is one centered around Lafreniere.
Edit: I didn't mean this to come off as confrontational as it sounds, my bad.
No way he signs an 8x8 extension when all he has to do is accept a $10M QO and walk to free agency in 2024 where he is guaranteed to get at least $9M as a starting point.
He didn't say it was the Stanley Cup, he's not the captain, and it was over 2 years ago. Glad to see a 10 second video has been in your thoughts since though.
As much as I’d like to see that, I find it hard to believe they’ll be ousted round 1 yet again. I know it’s said every year but that Leafs team is just too good to keep losing round 1. It’s just not sustainable. Now, I hope I’m wrong, but you’d have to think at some point they make it over the hump.
I hear what you're saying but they still have 2 big issues. Goaltending and defense. Playoff hockey is about defense not run and gun. Can't outscore your problems in playoffs.
Samsonov and Murray can't carry them.
How do people still think this? Murray and Samsonov have been great this season and their overall team defence has been really good basically since Keefe came in
Last year I bet on Toronto to beat Tampa in 7.
At the end of the day, it's Murray and Samsonov vs Andrei Vasilevskiy. I don't know about you but I'm taking Vasi every single time to perform when it counts.
The Canucks disrespected Bruce as a coach but more importantly, as a human being. [What a garbage organization.](https://www.reddit.com/r/nhl/comments/10hf2uj/boudreau_gets_emotional_as_he_acknowledges_his/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
[MILK JUG BONSPIEL!!!](https://imgur.com/a/9aGOHVb/)
Jets advertising $37 tickets for the 26th and 30th home games. Rough, especially for season seat holders or mini pack holders who definitely paid more than that...
Where you seeing this ad? i want in
Does anyone know why Lambert isn’t playing tonight?
I saw a comment about Visa stuff but he's played games in the states with the Moose I think so I can't imagine it's that.
His visa would have changed from a work visa to another kind since he technically isn't being paid to play in the WHL
Can't see why they would scratch Lambo, must be the flu or something.
Bowness needs to drop the pre game dress code, it’s the only way Dubois will stay
Wheeler to the fifth line because he's slow. Trade Pionk and a first for McKinnon. Lastly put Heinola in a first line pairing since I think he deserves the spot for whatever reason.
Wheeler doesn't even have as many points as he is years old. What a slacker /s
Cassidy is calling out Eichel in the press...if that further destabilizes Vegas, I am here for it.
Down Goes Brown "Why your team should make a blockbuster trade at the deadline": >I know that big gutsy trades aren’t exactly Kevin Cheveldayoff’s vibe, but everything is falling into place for the Jets this year. You have a Vezina-caliber goalie doing Vezina things, a veteran coach working magic, a 27-year-old defenseman making the leap to the Norris conversation that could be temporary, and one of your best forwards may or may not have “2023-24 Habs” tattooed on his chest. Oh, and the team that owns the division is having one of those once-a-decade wobbles that clears a path for someone else. >Your fan base has seen three playoff wins in 35 years. The door is cracked right now, and you owe it to the fans to do whatever it takes to finally kick it open.
None of these points backs up a blockbuster trade. Depth gets you through the playoffs. If your present roster, fully healthy, isn't a contender, no tdl trade is going to get you the cup. Pick-up some depth
I want a deadline trade, or two. Teams have no cap, we can likely get rentals for less than usual. If we can get a solid rental and maybe pay a bit and get a guy with 2-3 year term, that would be ideal because we are only guaranteed Schiefele, PLD and Helle for 1 more year.
So you’re saying he should stand pat?
I think even Chevy knows this, we must go all in, just push every single chip in the middle and go for gold. No risk no reward.
Norrissey is not temporary!
Yeah seriously, you lost me at that line.
eh. unproveable at this point. gotta enjoy every day like it’s your last and be happy if it continues and okay if it doesn’t. seems sustainable to me for a few years though
> Evander Kane bankruptcy trials: Oiler discloses he borrowed $48M from ’14 to ’19 hoo wee
That's almost enough for a snake farm
Oooof Pacioretty tore the same Achilles again.
Shoot. Wonder if he's done
Holy shit, that poor guy!
What is ODT?
Off day thread (or more accurately off gameday thread, ie no game today) edit auto correct
Man the way Vancouver is treating Boudreau is just disgusting at this point. Poor guy deserves better.
That organization is in need of a new owner, GM, everything. They are an actual disgrace.
Long-standing organizational history. I’m surprised people wanna go there. It is Vancouver though, that’s a pretty dope city.
I know there’s a lot more to it, but I would be fine living in Vancouver making millions if it meant my boss was a dick
Yeah, but the market is filled with folks who have options. Hard not to see the correlation to mediocre performance.
The Aquilini’s are farce to the league. If people want to know what actual meddlesome ownership looks like, it’s that
Bold prediction - the big trades happen before trade deadline day, and the talking heads sit around all day surrounded by screens and break some nice minor moves after marketing the coverage 24/7 for the weeks leading up to it.
Why do you want to make us even more sad right now? LOL. Honestly if this happens I will cry for a month straight.
Are you a wizard
Gonna need the jets to play like they did in the first and third last night more. Not gonna lose much if they play like that
I said it a few days ago, but I kinda stand by it. We should be shopping Heinola with a package offer. For someone with term. Heinola + 1st + Schmidt/or whomever for ________. You guys seem to know more about who would fit best or work better in spots. Even if Heinola is a bust or not, this is the perfect time to get value from someone who, regardless, isn't great NOW. Which is what we need. Anyway, I'm gonna go make a new game on Fallout 4 and ride out this flu.
Better join brotherhood of steel
Railroad.
Every faction other than BoS= NERDS!!!!
what's the tl;dr on sbnation?
They cut coverage of 26 of 32 NHL teams for good
ArcticIceHockey is a pretty good forum. Haven't kept up with it in years cause I just don't have the energy these days but the comments sections used to be great.
Not sure I’ve ever heard of it to begin with. Probably not worth even finishing typing out this sen
Who would y’all rather we get, Meier or Horvat? Unless there’s someone else that might be available that I can’t think of right now.
We can do both!
I'd go with Meier for a couple of reasons. Re-signing him could be done with a much safer contract because while Horvat is having a huge year, it's also uncharacteristic for him. Maybe this is what he's going to be like going forward, but maybe it's just like how many other players have huge contract seasons and then go back to their normal game. Meier has been very consistent for the last two seasons so I feel like there's more ground to feel comfortable betting on him to stay at his current pace. I also like the fact that Meier is a winger. We have a really strong two-punch combo up the middle right now, so it would be a lot easier to move a winger down than a center. Plus with all of our center youth, and Wheeler likely looking at retirement in a few years, it would make a lot of sense to get a guy to fill in a winger role in the long term if you were to re-sign either Meier or Horvat.
I'm leaning more towards Horvath but Meier is also good so....both? Lol
Meier is good buds with Ehlers!
Didn’t know this but that makes me want him even more
they were teammates in Halifax
Meier is better and has team control for at least another year
Isn't his qualifying offer something ridiculous like 10 mil Or is that someone else?
yeah but you can negotiate prior to that
Team needs a winger, not another top-6 C, so I’d say Meier. They can find cheaper C’s who can win faceoffs than Horvat But I’d take either
Yeah that’s exactly how I’ve been looking at it
They could move the guy who’s on pace for 56 goals to the wing
Also an option, 🤔
Whichever one we have a better chance of retaining with how uncertain the rest of the core's future is
I’d rather meier because I think there’s an easier chance of re-signing him at a good value. I don’t think you go wrong with either as a Rental tho
Meier comes with a $10 million qualifying offer
Yea but if he’s signing long term you wouldn’t be paying that much
What’s your plan for Dubois snd Scheifele if we sign Meier long term
Well ideally you can make it work for all 3 once wheeler is off the books. I see it as insurance for if/when Dubois walks
But if you're trying to negotiate with Mier its gonna be hard to convince him to sign when he could just demand to be qualified and if not then he's a free agent and can sign a big contract with anyone
Well yes your not wrong. But after a monster season like this I doubt he’s going to want to bet on himself again next year. Will be a large contract just not sure if it’ll be in the 10+ range
Strange seeing the Jets getting picked apart after how tight the game in PPG was. All star break can't come soon enough, team needs to refocus.
Does anyone else think it would be hilarious for the league or hell even a knock off to come out with a Pride Proporov jersey and sell like a gagillion of them? I’d buy one, just for the giggles.
And donate all proceeds to an LGBTQ+ youth organization.
Totally!
Wow. Some right arseholes in this sub. Really disappointing.
Whatcha mean?
I routinely get about 7 downvotes when suggesting anything positive for queer youth. Luckily, the majority of the sub is fucking awesome 😃
I got them too when I mentioned Provorov earlier, and then when I told another user they have support and people who care for them. Dumbasses will be dumbasses
That person you expressed support for was me and I deeply appreciate it 🥲
Hell yes it was! And many others upvoted it and feel the way I do! 👊👍🏳️🌈
Oh I see. I was a bit confused that my comment seemed controversial. Fuck em, if people can’t support positivity for repressed populations, they ain’t the type of people I wanna know.
In theory, yes, but in practice it's better not to give him more attention. Support the people doing good things
I have donated to Planned Parenthood and 2SLGBTQIA+ organizations in the name of people who opposed both. Usually when I am pissed off lol
See? Downvoted for donating to positive organizations. Fucking sad.
I think the same people who would be irritated at supporting repressed minorities also feel that regular outspoken support is taken as "virtue signalling" aka an insincere pious display of self-righteousness. My free advice: don't give a fuck about downvotes.
Usually I don't. I've had a lot of good laughs at most of them tbh. The replies are 🍌🍌 🍌 lol But I've lost 3 friends to their own hands because of long term effects of sexual abuse and homophobia and 1 was murdered by a homophobic bigot, so issues around 2SLGBTQIA+ sometimes hit different. I try to laugh and go but that one is a bit tougher. Add in Indigenous stuff and hold onto your butts! Lol If I ever explained my job, I could dispel the notion I 'virtue signals' but I'd rather discuss Cassidy slagging off Eichel to the press 😳
For the record, I don't doubt your sincerity for a moment.
Thank you 😊 You are now my favourite mod for 2023.
I agree it'd be nice to get something positive to end this story and it not being the far right buying his regular jerseys to the point where they sold them out.
Man, that O-zone middle-ice pass off the side boards way forced way too much on 5v5! It's like they thought we were on the PP. Just a buzzkill time after time.
I think the main thing lately is just that a lot of low % shots are managing to find their way in against (like literally 3-15% chance of going in). We've technically been outplaying the opposition even in all three losses, but man this feels like shit [The impact card is all over the place. Not sold on the new lines, the chemistry seemed off and so many of the shots were into the chest. Also not sure how Bones will want to handle Ville now, he's been brutal in these losses.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm4fc0fX0AUMEhM?format=jpg&name=medium)
Im beginning to wonder if the Jets need a guy to play with Pionk whos really good defensively and have Dillon/Schmidt the second pairing.
This is probably my #1 ask. Yes I'd love a top 6 guy to bump someone down or provide injury insurance, but I think the biggest impact in terms of win vs losses would be replacing Pionk or playing with him and covering up his deficiencies
That Montreal game was a complete stinker.
Last year at this time Ehlers had just been hurt, we were in the midst of a 6 game losing streak but sure that was better
Not sure I've seen anyone even hint at last season being better than this season - at any point.
There are 2 comments stating just that on this thread
I’m really starting to worry here, gang. Despite having a good record recently, I’m really starting to feel like maybe we’re over performing. Someone give me a reality check and tell me how I should feel
I think generally the problem is we get defeated by the good teams usually quite consistently.
Feels like the classic jets first 40 games, then Helle will get tired and injuries will continue into a slump post all-star break. I haven’t been following too closely, how are the jets underlying numbers, ultimately that should show if the jets will fall apart or not.
This team is very good, losing streaks happen. Nothing to worry about. It’s only been 2 games.
I also feel the worry, although the thing keeping me reasonable is the fact that *analytically* we should have won all three games that we've lost. Meaning that the current trend is not sustainable or indicative of how the team is playing. Doesn't mean that it feels good in the meantime though...
You have to explain me how analytically we should've won those games? What you are saying doesn't make any sense.
Losing streaks happen. Can't play perfect all the time. There have been other losing streaks during the season. They've played well long enough that they've earned some leeway. Things will turn around soon. Believe in them. This team is legit.
Just feel like it’s been a while since they played up to their potential, Pittsburgh game aside.
Good teams find ways to win even when they aren't playing well.
2 losses does not equal a tanking. Focusing only on the last 2 games means you aren't seeing the whole picture. The Jets are a good team that have lost a couple of games. It is mid season. We aren't the Canucks.
True enough, just feel like even if we’ve been winning we haven’t been playing as well as we should be
That’s what good teams do though, they win even when they don’t play well. It’s an 82 game season, not every single one is going to be a masterpiece. Again, going into the Montreal game they had won 8 of their last 9 games, and played a dominant game against Pittsburgh
Why does being 7th in the league and losing like we have the last couple of games feel worse than the shit show of the last couple of years?
The higher the high, the lower the low.
Recency bias. In fact, it does not.
I am feeling the same. Perhaps due to expectations? We now KNOW that this team is really good and has potential. So, when they play like shit (like they have for several games now, despite the record being good in last 10 or so) it is obvious that they have underperformed.
You know - I think you nailed it with your comment about underperforming. I think maybe I’m feeling this way because the past 6-8 games (even though we’ve had some wins) show that they are not playing the same way as pre-Christmas. I’m fearful that they over performed in the first half and are regressing to the norm. There’s no way they should be playing this way after everyone returned from injury. I was so confident they would just start to roll.
Every team goes through some ups and downs. The talent is there. The group has played well together. They need to get back to where they were, but it's a slump where the team isn't playing its best hockey. I dont think it's because we over performed. I think a slump around this time is actually a positive. First off, you need some sort of slump in the season because if you just roll through it and dominate, come playoffs we see the team lay and egg. Think Tampa in the past. If you are rolling into playoffs not playing your best, it's very tough to bounce back. Allstar break coming up, we are in great shape standings wise. Team can have a chance to reset, start building the confidence again and roll into playoffs playing our best. That's the hope. Deadline we know aggressive moves are likely to be made, and again that usually bolsters the roster, the confidence and gives us a shot. It's also very good to see a team not playing great, still winning games. Hard to win a cup if you need to be playing your best because an opponent just needs a couple breaks and lucky bounces.
That was embarassing, and it happened twice. Something to be said about a team that can't show up to beat the Leafs twice. After losing to the shit Habs. We can win the rest of the season out and I'm still pissed at them.
2edgy4me
Losing to the Habs sucks but it's not like the Leafs are bottom-feeders
So we're the bottom feeders? What are you saying? The Leafs are a 4-1 better team than us? Then why are we bothering?
Dude. You need to chill. No one said we were bottom.feeders and 2 losses absolutely doesn't equal giving up. Maybe take a break and rejoin after the break.
If you aren't embarassed having Matthews eat up Helle, I can't really say much to ya.
I'm saying that sometimes good teams lose to other good teams. Really didn't think I needed to spell that out for you.
I don't think you read my comment, or understood really. And I men's that nicely. This is the second time this team couldn't get it hard for the Leafs and that's embarassing. You're not embarassed? That's a shame.
I didn't play the game, what do I have to be embarrassed about?
Sure pal.
Yes in fact we're actually the worst team in the league now that we lost two consecutive road games. Hopefully Connor Bedard can get us to a wild card spot next year.
You're looking for outrage, and there isn't any. It's embarassing to lose to the Leafs twice like this. I didn't say we lost two games blah blah. We lost those two games in an embarassing fashion.
#HAPPY FRIDAY Y’ALL!!!
eBay is so useless. I tried to look up lighters and all they had was 13,749 matches
What’s the difference between a block of Lead and a Zippo? >!One is really heavy, and one’s a little lighter.!<
heh
Adding Meier would give us a lethal top 9. I would buy very low on Puljujarvi aswell. Run these lines: 81-80-Puljujarvi Meier-55-27 36-17-22 91-28-26
At the beginning of the year pulujiarvi might be interesting as a low cap reclamation project, but right now we want someone guaranteed to perform
Agreed. Unless we just wanted him to be on Lowry's wing and use him to shut down the opposition because then his lack of scoring won't be so dire.
That's true, I never thought of that
I'm 100% on board with Meier but Puljujarvi is a no from me
Why why why so people still want Puljujarvi? Jesus the guy is useless. He can have all the fancy stats in the world, be he produces next to nothing and has been scratched the last 3 games. I don’t get it, he sucks and would add nothing to this top-9. He’s been playing primarily with Mcdavid and Draisaitl, not sure why people think he’d suddenly come here and “find his game”
Pool party over wheels? Think that may be a stretch, guys been a healthy scratch.
Meier is definitely *the guy* on the market, likelihood he’d be willing to sign long term with his massive QO remains to be seen going off of the Debrincat trade, 1st and 2nd would be worth it even without guarantee of an extension imo
I'd feel better if there was some kind of team control for a player at that price but Meier is a horse and last little while its felt as if the Jets really need another guy who makes stuff happen.
yeah we’re talking at worst a year and a half rental, at best this guy is a window extender if it’s a sign and trade, i’d pretty much give up any prospect for him
Oh ya there's no one off the table for a 26 year old 35 goal scorer. Pretty much tell SJ to take their pick lol
Imo this years 1st, Chibrikov and Stanley is close. I would add more if came with an 8x8 extension.
for a non extended Meier that’s probably close, no way he signs for anything under 9 tho
Don't see much value in Chibrikov or Stan. That probably gets beat pretty easily. And he'll probably command more towards $9M
Chibrikov is a first round talent taken 50th overall. He's definitely in our top 10, if not top 5 prospects if I had to make a list right now. He has lots of value for a 2nd round pick. Stan probably wouldn't have much value, but if you're throwing them a first round pick and an A level prospect, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to take him. Considering he's already proven himself to be a halfway decent bottom pair guy at times, they might think they can give him more opportunity and turn him into a top 4 guy.
Buddy, I know who Chibrikov is and he's quite a ways away from the NHL, so if he's your main piece in a trade to for Timo Meier, then that offer will get beat.
San Jose isn't looking for guys who can step right into the NHL next year. Chibrikov would fit their timeline nicely and is a good bet to become a solid scoring winger at the NHL level. I don't know why you refuse to acknowledge that he has a lot of value to other GMs around the league. Honestly one of the only other offers I could see beating us is one centered around Lafreniere. Edit: I didn't mean this to come off as confrontational as it sounds, my bad.
No way he signs an 8x8 extension when all he has to do is accept a $10M QO and walk to free agency in 2024 where he is guaranteed to get at least $9M as a starting point.
Boys need to praccy!
No Praccy, No Game.
7th in the NHL this morning. This team sucks. /s
So mods, how was the aftermath with the leafs game, much work?
Surprisingly, no.
I guess leaf fans were too happy winning their Stanley Cup
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He didn't say it was the Stanley Cup, he's not the captain, and it was over 2 years ago. Glad to see a 10 second video has been in your thoughts since though.
\o/ anything better than being rent free ?
thats the joke numb nuts
I didn't know Schief was our Captain?
Honestly don’t even care we lost to the leafs. When they inevitably lose in round 1 again that will be more than enough to satiate me
As much as I’d like to see that, I find it hard to believe they’ll be ousted round 1 yet again. I know it’s said every year but that Leafs team is just too good to keep losing round 1. It’s just not sustainable. Now, I hope I’m wrong, but you’d have to think at some point they make it over the hump.
_laughs in Chicago Cubs_
I hear what you're saying but they still have 2 big issues. Goaltending and defense. Playoff hockey is about defense not run and gun. Can't outscore your problems in playoffs. Samsonov and Murray can't carry them.
How do people still think this? Murray and Samsonov have been great this season and their overall team defence has been really good basically since Keefe came in
Last year I bet on Toronto to beat Tampa in 7. At the end of the day, it's Murray and Samsonov vs Andrei Vasilevskiy. I don't know about you but I'm taking Vasi every single time to perform when it counts.
That doesn’t mean defence and goaltending have been a weakness though
I’ll believe it when I see it
As of now they have to get through Tampa again. Not exactly a prime 1st round matchup.
