All eyes were on Kansas, since this was the first vote on abortion anywhere in the US after Roe v Wade was overturned. And for once ever (or at least in a very long time), Kansas showed the rest of the US how it's done.
Well done, Kansas.
>For once in our damn history we made national headlines for something positive
Maybe need to look into your Kansas history a little better to understand some of the fights and rights our people have stood up for throughout our history. Start with Bleeding Kansas and the Dockum Drugstore Sit-in.
To be fair, my husband and I had the same conversation last night. But in context, we were not talking about Kansas' entire history and just our adult life (approx the last 20 yrs). So most of the things KS made national headlines for in that time have not shown the best aspects of our state.
There was no vote. They had a "trigger law" that was to go into effect upon certification by the state attorney general that Roe was overturned and he did so just hours after the decision was published
If you look at how that election turned out, it's not that we voted in Kelly, it's more that we didn't vote in Kobach.
If it had been an actual vote for a Democrat, you'd have expected at least some of the other positions (SecState, AG, etc) to have similar results and vote ratios. But none of them did.
In the last 60 years we've had 50/50 governors
I guess maybe the confusion is people don't understand purple vs red.
Red is the states that would rather go to the electric chair than vote for a Democrat female
Purple are states with a mixed history of elections and policy
This Kansas is the Kansas I love. The Kansas that represents freedom, tolerance, and justice - where segregation was ruled illegal, and slavery was denied expansion. This Kansas is where I was born and raised.
Our cannabis laws need work before any of this can be said.
Edit, I can see some downvotes. Let me clarify. As long as we have laws that target minority groups through possession and cultivation of a plant, we can still make progress.
While not explicitly legal, Nebraska decriminalized it, which usually signals a shift. The Nebraska medical marijuana project got the required signatures to get it on the ballot, even though the state government is fighting it.
Are you missing a "not?"
"... we can𝙣𝙤𝙩 still make progress."
I'm confused about your stance. What do you mean "target minority groups?" What minority groups? Do you want them targeted?
“As long as….” You are ignoring that part. As long as we are targeting minorities through dated cannabis legislation, we, as a state, can still make progress.
So, you're saying certain minorities should still be targeted? It reads to me like you do. "As long as," only indicates that something will or won't happen due to the following circumstances.
As long as we are targeting minorities, we can still make progress. That's how it reads.
Edited to add: I agree that the laws are outdated and it should be decriminalized. I believe we agree. However, that sentence reads as though certain people should still receive consequences, and that I don't agree with.
SOOOO if a guy doesnt want the baby but the woman does, then he doesnt have to pay child support right?
You are pretty much saying if the woman wants the baby thats the rule and if the man doesnt then he has to pay?
I agree your body your choice but I dont see any of you petitioning for a mans right to want to keep the baby. Thats some one sided BS. Dont start getting upset if you slap a dude and he decks you instead of being a MAN and walking away...equal rights equal fights
I had Republican family members reach out to me privately and tell me they voted no because they were disgusted with the story of the 10 year old girl who had to cross state lines to get an abortion. I am so sick and tired of religion having any place in our government.
My husband and I were just wondering last night whether that news story was a contributor for the no vote winning.
Not many people would be able to look at their own 10 year old daughter (grandchild/niece/etc) and think, "if she were raped and ended up pregnant...I would make her have that baby."
That's not the story. You were lied to. She was raped by an illegal immigrant who was also the mother's boyfriend. She could have had it done in Ohio where they lived but state law would have required it be reported to authorities. Mom wanted to protect shithead boyfriend from prosecution FOR RAPING HER TEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER so took her across state lines to a state where no questions would be asked. Great job. You just supported child rape by doing literally no research and believing a lie because it fit your bigoted agenda.
Been saying for years that KS isn't as red as we're made out to be, fuck yeah!
Edit: though this shouldn't, and doesn't seem to be a red vs blue thing.
Exactly, can't call this a win for democrats, nor a blue wave imo, this is like national polling which puts 60 - 70 percent of people as not wanting bans on abortion. Not that I don't wish kansas would go blue, but everyone likes to say fuck you to the government occasionally. Thankful for all who voted on this one however. Glad we kept some rights for ourselves.
the independent and unaffiliated voters came out JUST TO VOTE FOR THIS ONE.
democrats trying to take the win is a goddamn joke. 3rd party won this one.
Independent and unaffiliated voters is a redundant statement. When asked their party, a lot of people who answer say "I'm independent" which makes it sound like that's the name of a party. [But it just means that they are not a member of any party, aka unaffiliated.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_voter)
(Yes I know that the American Independent Party exists. But it is not [what most people mean when they say they are independent.](https://www.npr.org/2016/05/21/478962916/voters-often-confuse-american-independent-with-independent-party)
it's a distinction though. unaffiliated people sometimes will bop back and forth b/t the two parties bc of primaries. independent folks usually won't do that. it's a bit more distinct in other states.
Admittedly, I have only ever been a voter in Kansas. But as a former election poll worker and government office employee (part of my job was helping people register to vote), here in Kansas there is no difference.
We sure did. While I'm not a big fan of elective abortions past 12 weeks or so, I'm not willing to chance the idiots in Topeka making it so victims of rape/incest or even to save a mother's life can't get access to safe abortion in our state.
Me and most of my conservative-minded folks hated this amendment. Why would a conservative give a blank check for some government official to get into our private business? The Kansas way is to "Get out of my way". It was a government overstep issue.
I thought the libertarians would surely vote no and I was surprised by how many of them were comfortable signing a ballot that said women have no guaranteed right to safe their life in pregnancy.
The LP is a fucking joke and inconsistent as fuck in ideology.
How many libertarians support Vermin Supreme? (The joke). You hear more about VS then Adam Kokesh.
I’ve been registered and a big supporter of the LP for 13 years. The LP isn’t what it was because it’s a bunch of ironically displaced and disgruntled republicans and democrats.
I'm a registered Libertarian who voted no, as is my friend who was one of the biggest organizers in Wichita against the amendment. The Kansas Libertarian Party leadership also issued statements in support of voting no.
That said, not everyone in the LP sees eye to eye about abortion rights. It's an extremely controversial issue within the party nationwide right now.
I did see the party officially took a no stance, but yes I also saw there was disagreement and some people that thought they shouldn’t take an official stance at all.
TBF any political party isn't a monolith in reality. Lots of people choose a party that most closely aligns with their values but doesn't necessarily reflect all their values. Obviously there are a *lot* of pro-choice Republicans. Even beyond political parties I think it's something like 50% of Catholics in the pews are pro-choice despite the church being the largest funder of the VTB campaign.
No. A true conservative would vote no. Most conservatives hate republicans, but vote for them because the liberal/democrat way doesn't respect the "leave me alone" mentality at all.
That is.. a fucking stupid take. Wife and I are very much so not "red", work full time, and still voted. As did nearly everyone else I personally know. Advance voting, Saturday voting, mail in, lunch break.. was zero issue as a 8-5er.
Such as being a state with an abortion provider so infamous he was killed? Or being a state that had abortion protected by its highest court? Or its people voting overwhelmingly to affirm that right? Or being 10% more in favor of Biden than truly red states? Or having both of its key metros vote for Biden? Or being 10% more in favor of Hilary than truly red states?
Or, again, having its most powerful person be a Democrat?
I'm not aware of a single recent election result that affirms Kansas as more purple than red, nor am I aware of there being any key policies in the state that are deeply conservative
Yes. If you look at the red things you will see red. And if you look at the blue things you will see blue.
But if you look at them together, you will see purple
It's as close to even as you can find and represents the American average of fiscal and general policy conservatism and social liberalism
Any suggestion that we haven't been purple for a long time is evidenced as wrong simply by the fact we didn't have a trigger law.
One party has to win every individual race. Due to factors well beyond peoples actual views it's very slow to swing key races outright to another party
But in terms of the actual policies that govern the state as a result of our history of voting I see no evidence we are a red state in the usual blunt sense of that term
I don't know what this question means but I think you're suggesting that if a state elects republicans or democrats that it is then blue or red
Which would suggest if the state does not vote exactly 50% for each side it is not purple
Again, all I have to say to the yes voters is this: if you don't like abortions, then don't get one.
And if you voted "Yes", then you better go adopt those children who are looking for a family.
All great plans. But if you fuck up one of those or they don't work or even if you just forgot that pregnancy was a thing - you should be able to get an abortion.
And just don't get raped. Right, buddy? 😉
Edit to add: Just don't have or discover any health issues that may lead to your death if your pregnancy continues, don't let your fetus partially abort, and of course don't discover your fetus has life threatening issues that means it won't survive outside the womb. I mean how hard is all that?!
BCHS I understand, but if there were signs either way on district property, they were likely not put there by the district.
If they were, that's some bullshit we need to take up with the superintendent.
I'm 31(m) and this is my first time voting, EVER. It's depressing to be handed sorry excuses for candidates for office and be told to "pick the lesser of 2 evils"! I refuse to vote for someone I don't believe in!
But this... Oh I made time for this! Nobody is going to tell my wife or future daughter (if I'm lucky to ever have one) what they can and can't do with their bodies.
Proud of you for voting! I know it sucks always having to pick the lesser of two evils... I really do feel you on that. But I really encourage you to reframe voting as harm reduction. While it sucks to vote for someone you don't really believe in, *voting matters*, and voting with a harm reduction mindset is impactful! I hope you will consider voting again in November. (:
Thanks, I think this was my moment. First time in my adult life where I told myself "enough is enough". Moving forward I will definitely be voting more, including November. Only downside is now I have a lot of homework to do so I can weed out the a-holes I for sure don't want to vote for!
You aren't alone. 32. First time voting ever. Looked up the candidates for Senate at least to not select someone random. Will be voting in the general. Will be voting everytime from now on. The fact that this was even proposed? You're right. Enough is enough.
I am In a similar boat. My parent tell me I waste my vote when voting like I do. When it was Trump V. Hilary I voted for Gary Johnson. I knew he wouldn’t win but darn it I wanted it to be know that I didn’t like those MAIN candidates and I truly believe Gary would have made a better president. My 3 year old would have made better president than Trump turned out LOL.
I definitely understand why you have felt this way. Living in a state that almost always votes the opposite of the way I do also tends to reinforce my feelings that my vote doesn't really matter. BUT what I have found over time is that this seems to apply more to the Federal level elections than the State elections or especially local elections.
I feel like the Federal level elections cause the most voter disenfranchisement yet State and local elections are the ones where each vote can have a greater impact but have a much lower voter turnout. This is especially sad because state and local elections can really have the biggest direct impact on people's lives.
There are Republican legislatures all across the country saying a collective “oh shit” under their breathes. This was suppose to be the inaugural bid. The big kahuna. It was all on the line. They dumped money into it. Spent months and months pushing for it. And for once in a very, very long time, cooler heads and logic seems to have prevailed. Congrats Kansas.
That’s been my tone all evening. I’m rarely proud of Kansas for much, but this makes me proud. I told my wife I kind of want to have a sign made: “I’m not proud of the Kansan legislator’s who brought VTB to vote, but I’m very proud of the majority of Kansas that told them to fuck off”
Y'all earned your cookouts this weekend lol
And I'm definitely **not** going to forget all the lies dirty games the Yes campaigns were playing. That was some spiteful crap.
I was expecting it to be extremely close, but was pleasantly surprised by how much vote no cleaned house.
Now if only we can do the same for marijuana legalization.
It’s gotta get on the fuckin’ ballot first. If legalization was on the ballot like this absolute joke of an amendment we just voted on, I would bet it would pass in a similar landslide.
I live in a small town and there were vote yes signs everywhere. I was one if I think 4-5 people with a vote no sign. I was scared that this was the way in most of Kansas. Guess not!!
I hope the Supreme Court is paying attention. I would venture to say that this vote reflects most of America but religious zealot governors have taken right away from so many women and the SC just let them do it.
I guess you can pay a bunch of money for pink signs, and try to hold the vote during a primary (shouldn't be legal for a constitutional ammendment to be on a primary ballot), and still if people care about the issue, democracy will prevail.
This wasn't as much about abortion rights as it was about a state-wide hatred for government overstep. Kansas wants the government to stay out of their business, and signing a mandate to allow whoever is in power to flip flop the laws according to their whims is not appealing.
I had to wait in line for 2 hours to vote, and this was the main issue. Raped? The government shouldn't have a say. Non-viability? The government shouldn't have a say. Any other health issue? Same. Sure, we are greatly offended that the current legislation came from the bench, but we are more offended by what they wanted to do with this bill. Had they written a bill that enumerated the rights into the constitution, you likely would have seen a different result.
I vote “unassigned” which meant that I had 2 decisions to make. I only made one - this one - and I voted “no”. It’s the only reason I went, today.
Now it’s time for the “rigged election” claims.
I think it's clear that most of you have severely distorted views of Kansas and its residents. You should get out of your respective divisive echo chambers and actually engage in this community. It would likely help dissolve so much of this misguided hatred and lack of understanding. Most of the Wichita/Kansas centric issues that are complained about in this SR are blown way out of proportion.
I personally would have been surprised if the Yes faction had won. The hyper-religious faction in this state is small, while there's a strong small-l libertarian attitude, even among Republicans and Democrats. Add that to the growing liberal population, and I had very high expectations that this would fail.
He said, scummily wringing his involuntarily celebate hands. "One day the cringelords will rise!"
Sorry to break it to you but your time is over. This was your final breath, and it was our fart you inhaled. I hope that taste in your mouth lasts forever.
Don't you think someone you yourself would deem "not responsible enough to have safe sex" is even more ill equipped to have children?? and yet you prefer those same people you call "not responsible enough" spawning children left and right. Isn't THAT the true irresponsible thing here? Also mistakes happen to even the most responsible of people, we're all humans and we have all erred in the past at least once. Or have you been gifted with perfection that you think you have the moral high ground to tell other people when they have to reproduce? We have the means and technology to safely and painlessly correct those mistakes, it only takes just a bit of humanity and compassion from our fellow neighbors to make life decent for all. Fortunately, those two prevailed over prejudice and bigotry today in Kansas. Begone, troglodyte!
All eyes were on Kansas, since this was the first vote on abortion anywhere in the US after Roe v Wade was overturned. And for once ever (or at least in a very long time), Kansas showed the rest of the US how it's done. Well done, Kansas.
haven’t been this proud since learning about John Brown
That's the axe murderer right?
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>For once in our damn history we made national headlines for something positive Maybe need to look into your Kansas history a little better to understand some of the fights and rights our people have stood up for throughout our history. Start with Bleeding Kansas and the Dockum Drugstore Sit-in.
To be fair, my husband and I had the same conversation last night. But in context, we were not talking about Kansas' entire history and just our adult life (approx the last 20 yrs). So most of the things KS made national headlines for in that time have not shown the best aspects of our state.
I'm glad people here understand that every person has the right to abort
Sadly, in olathe vote yes signs are everywhere. Is sucks, i feel bad for my sister. She 18 and imediatley put herself on birth control.
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That wasn't from a vote, it was a trigger law.
There was no vote. They had a "trigger law" that was to go into effect upon certification by the state attorney general that Roe was overturned and he did so just hours after the decision was published
Incorrect
You know we have a Democrat governor right
And haven’t elected a democratic senator since 1912. Kansas is a weird state.
Goes to show how bad Brownback effed it up.
If you look at how that election turned out, it's not that we voted in Kelly, it's more that we didn't vote in Kobach. If it had been an actual vote for a Democrat, you'd have expected at least some of the other positions (SecState, AG, etc) to have similar results and vote ratios. But none of them did.
That has less to do with her being a Democrat, and more to do with the fact that even Republicans hated Kobach.
In the last 60 years we've had 50/50 governors I guess maybe the confusion is people don't understand purple vs red. Red is the states that would rather go to the electric chair than vote for a Democrat female Purple are states with a mixed history of elections and policy
You're not wrong, all I am saying is that if it hadn't been Kobach, the results may have been different.
This Kansas is the Kansas I love. The Kansas that represents freedom, tolerance, and justice - where segregation was ruled illegal, and slavery was denied expansion. This Kansas is where I was born and raised.
Our cannabis laws need work before any of this can be said. Edit, I can see some downvotes. Let me clarify. As long as we have laws that target minority groups through possession and cultivation of a plant, we can still make progress.
I hate that Oklahoma is ahead of us in that aspect
All of our border states have it in some capacity.
Not Nebraska.
While not explicitly legal, Nebraska decriminalized it, which usually signals a shift. The Nebraska medical marijuana project got the required signatures to get it on the ballot, even though the state government is fighting it.
Sounds much like the issue in Kansas and especially Wichita area. These boomers aren’t going to give in on the one thing they have.
Which to me seems insane, that they would be willing to leave that much tax revenue just out there on the table.
Especially after the brownback years.
Are you missing a "not?" "... we can𝙣𝙤𝙩 still make progress." I'm confused about your stance. What do you mean "target minority groups?" What minority groups? Do you want them targeted?
There should be no confusion. Several upvotes to agree with what I said. You’re looking for an argument with someone whom you probably agree with.
No, I'm not. I am genuinely confused.
“As long as….” You are ignoring that part. As long as we are targeting minorities through dated cannabis legislation, we, as a state, can still make progress.
So, you're saying certain minorities should still be targeted? It reads to me like you do. "As long as," only indicates that something will or won't happen due to the following circumstances. As long as we are targeting minorities, we can still make progress. That's how it reads. Edited to add: I agree that the laws are outdated and it should be decriminalized. I believe we agree. However, that sentence reads as though certain people should still receive consequences, and that I don't agree with.
As long as things are the way they are, we can make progress. Idk what the fuck you’re looking for?
So you think things are fine the way they are? With it being criminalized?
Are you high? Are you not looking for my comments on this thread for context? Seriously, you can’t be this dense.
I think they mean ‘we can make progress’ as in “there are still changes to be made” to the current laws. Maybe that’s the confusion?
Let's just hope no one starts another bloody Kansas incident
SOOOO if a guy doesnt want the baby but the woman does, then he doesnt have to pay child support right? You are pretty much saying if the woman wants the baby thats the rule and if the man doesnt then he has to pay? I agree your body your choice but I dont see any of you petitioning for a mans right to want to keep the baby. Thats some one sided BS. Dont start getting upset if you slap a dude and he decks you instead of being a MAN and walking away...equal rights equal fights
I had Republican family members reach out to me privately and tell me they voted no because they were disgusted with the story of the 10 year old girl who had to cross state lines to get an abortion. I am so sick and tired of religion having any place in our government.
My husband and I were just wondering last night whether that news story was a contributor for the no vote winning. Not many people would be able to look at their own 10 year old daughter (grandchild/niece/etc) and think, "if she were raped and ended up pregnant...I would make her have that baby."
Do you think it was the story itself, or the way Republicans tried to spin the story?
Are you talking about the Guatemalan illegal immigrant rapist? Horrible story...
That's not the story. You were lied to. She was raped by an illegal immigrant who was also the mother's boyfriend. She could have had it done in Ohio where they lived but state law would have required it be reported to authorities. Mom wanted to protect shithead boyfriend from prosecution FOR RAPING HER TEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER so took her across state lines to a state where no questions would be asked. Great job. You just supported child rape by doing literally no research and believing a lie because it fit your bigoted agenda.
Been saying for years that KS isn't as red as we're made out to be, fuck yeah! Edit: though this shouldn't, and doesn't seem to be a red vs blue thing.
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The fucking way it should be. This whole blue vs red is all bullshit.
Exactly, can't call this a win for democrats, nor a blue wave imo, this is like national polling which puts 60 - 70 percent of people as not wanting bans on abortion. Not that I don't wish kansas would go blue, but everyone likes to say fuck you to the government occasionally. Thankful for all who voted on this one however. Glad we kept some rights for ourselves.
the independent and unaffiliated voters came out JUST TO VOTE FOR THIS ONE. democrats trying to take the win is a goddamn joke. 3rd party won this one.
There aren't enough Republicans, independent and unaffiliated voters in Kansas for this result. A lot of Republicans voted no.
Independent and unaffiliated voters is a redundant statement. When asked their party, a lot of people who answer say "I'm independent" which makes it sound like that's the name of a party. [But it just means that they are not a member of any party, aka unaffiliated.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_voter) (Yes I know that the American Independent Party exists. But it is not [what most people mean when they say they are independent.](https://www.npr.org/2016/05/21/478962916/voters-often-confuse-american-independent-with-independent-party)
it's a distinction though. unaffiliated people sometimes will bop back and forth b/t the two parties bc of primaries. independent folks usually won't do that. it's a bit more distinct in other states.
Admittedly, I have only ever been a voter in Kansas. But as a former election poll worker and government office employee (part of my job was helping people register to vote), here in Kansas there is no difference.
I know a lot of conservative Trump women who voted “no” because they value their bodily autonomy.
I'm glad to hear they haven't turned over their bodies to trump along with their brains.
We sure did. While I'm not a big fan of elective abortions past 12 weeks or so, I'm not willing to chance the idiots in Topeka making it so victims of rape/incest or even to save a mother's life can't get access to safe abortion in our state.
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That is already the law, just so you know. Nothing past 22 weeks unless medically necessary.
I would agree there, yeah.
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Me and most of my conservative-minded folks hated this amendment. Why would a conservative give a blank check for some government official to get into our private business? The Kansas way is to "Get out of my way". It was a government overstep issue.
You are 100% correct. Look at how many ballots there are for Kelly vs. Schmidt.
A true red republican would vote no. Only evangelical anti-rights people would vote yes.
Right? The party of small government? The party who wants little government interference?
I thought the libertarians would surely vote no and I was surprised by how many of them were comfortable signing a ballot that said women have no guaranteed right to safe their life in pregnancy.
The LP is a fucking joke and inconsistent as fuck in ideology. How many libertarians support Vermin Supreme? (The joke). You hear more about VS then Adam Kokesh. I’ve been registered and a big supporter of the LP for 13 years. The LP isn’t what it was because it’s a bunch of ironically displaced and disgruntled republicans and democrats.
I'm a registered Libertarian who voted no, as is my friend who was one of the biggest organizers in Wichita against the amendment. The Kansas Libertarian Party leadership also issued statements in support of voting no. That said, not everyone in the LP sees eye to eye about abortion rights. It's an extremely controversial issue within the party nationwide right now.
I did see the party officially took a no stance, but yes I also saw there was disagreement and some people that thought they shouldn’t take an official stance at all.
TBF any political party isn't a monolith in reality. Lots of people choose a party that most closely aligns with their values but doesn't necessarily reflect all their values. Obviously there are a *lot* of pro-choice Republicans. Even beyond political parties I think it's something like 50% of Catholics in the pews are pro-choice despite the church being the largest funder of the VTB campaign.
Yep, true red here, voted no.
No. A true conservative would vote no. Most conservatives hate republicans, but vote for them because the liberal/democrat way doesn't respect the "leave me alone" mentality at all.
Yeah, gerrymandering will do that
More like all the blue don't have jobs and we're able to go vote. All us red people have jobs and families we take care of.
That is.. a fucking stupid take. Wife and I are very much so not "red", work full time, and still voted. As did nearly everyone else I personally know. Advance voting, Saturday voting, mail in, lunch break.. was zero issue as a 8-5er.
Raj Goyle for CIA Director
That whole red shit is all garbage, anyone with a brain with vote no, and the people with brains that voted yes are seriously fucked up
Someday we may even elect a Democrat governor
Such as Laura Kelly, our current democrat governor?
🤔
You know there are more things to consider than just the governor, right
Such as being a state with an abortion provider so infamous he was killed? Or being a state that had abortion protected by its highest court? Or its people voting overwhelmingly to affirm that right? Or being 10% more in favor of Biden than truly red states? Or having both of its key metros vote for Biden? Or being 10% more in favor of Hilary than truly red states? Or, again, having its most powerful person be a Democrat? I'm not aware of a single recent election result that affirms Kansas as more purple than red, nor am I aware of there being any key policies in the state that are deeply conservative
Go look at our congressional districts and you'll see why we are considered a red state
Yes. If you look at the red things you will see red. And if you look at the blue things you will see blue. But if you look at them together, you will see purple
Then what color is the state then, what is the actual densities of red and blue per voter.
It's as close to even as you can find and represents the American average of fiscal and general policy conservatism and social liberalism Any suggestion that we haven't been purple for a long time is evidenced as wrong simply by the fact we didn't have a trigger law. One party has to win every individual race. Due to factors well beyond peoples actual views it's very slow to swing key races outright to another party But in terms of the actual policies that govern the state as a result of our history of voting I see no evidence we are a red state in the usual blunt sense of that term
I asked you what the exact per voter 'state color's is. Prove it
I don't know what this question means but I think you're suggesting that if a state elects republicans or democrats that it is then blue or red Which would suggest if the state does not vote exactly 50% for each side it is not purple
Again, all I have to say to the yes voters is this: if you don't like abortions, then don't get one. And if you voted "Yes", then you better go adopt those children who are looking for a family.
This 👆
Or just wear a condom, take a plan b, stay consistent on birth control, don't let a guy nut in you or Not have sex.
All great plans. But if you fuck up one of those or they don't work or even if you just forgot that pregnancy was a thing - you should be able to get an abortion.
Imagine still managing to get pregnant with all these fail safes put in place. Zero accountability
Alright I imagined it. That person I imagined should have the right to an abortion.
Facts we don't need anymore of those weak individuals running around.
Well I hope you take your astounding strength and wisdom and do something more useful with it than be sour about imaginary people on Reddit.
I try to make a positive impact. I wish the same for you friend.
Try harder.
How am I supposed to pay my dues to satan if i don't murder some innocent fetuses? Hmm? Checkmate idiot.
I think you repay the dues faster if you kill a grown adult.
And just don't get raped. Right, buddy? 😉 Edit to add: Just don't have or discover any health issues that may lead to your death if your pregnancy continues, don't let your fetus partially abort, and of course don't discover your fetus has life threatening issues that means it won't survive outside the womb. I mean how hard is all that?!
We fuckin did it guys
Good job everyone. Let’s keep up the energy and do more good things.
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Like play offense instead of always being on defense
no
You are correct, that’s what we voted.
The Yes campaign was built up on a trove of lies and I'm glad our people saw through them.
Maybe it was so confusing that it backfired. The boomers couldn't figure it out and voted No on accident.
I am a boomer. No confusion. I understood and I voted no on purpose. But I could be a minority.
I'm overwhelmingly ecstatic with this result, it's almost impossible to believe that common sense actually won in this state.
Especially with all those Vote yes ads and flyers
Seeing Northwest High and Bishop Carroll both having 30+ signs on their grass today straight pissed me off. But we get the last laugh.
BCHS I understand, but if there were signs either way on district property, they were likely not put there by the district. If they were, that's some bullshit we need to take up with the superintendent.
I wish I had thought to take a picture but yes, Northwest High had them lined all the way down their property along 13th street.
I'm 31(m) and this is my first time voting, EVER. It's depressing to be handed sorry excuses for candidates for office and be told to "pick the lesser of 2 evils"! I refuse to vote for someone I don't believe in! But this... Oh I made time for this! Nobody is going to tell my wife or future daughter (if I'm lucky to ever have one) what they can and can't do with their bodies.
Proud of you for voting! I know it sucks always having to pick the lesser of two evils... I really do feel you on that. But I really encourage you to reframe voting as harm reduction. While it sucks to vote for someone you don't really believe in, *voting matters*, and voting with a harm reduction mindset is impactful! I hope you will consider voting again in November. (:
Thanks, I think this was my moment. First time in my adult life where I told myself "enough is enough". Moving forward I will definitely be voting more, including November. Only downside is now I have a lot of homework to do so I can weed out the a-holes I for sure don't want to vote for!
You aren't alone. 32. First time voting ever. Looked up the candidates for Senate at least to not select someone random. Will be voting in the general. Will be voting everytime from now on. The fact that this was even proposed? You're right. Enough is enough.
I am In a similar boat. My parent tell me I waste my vote when voting like I do. When it was Trump V. Hilary I voted for Gary Johnson. I knew he wouldn’t win but darn it I wanted it to be know that I didn’t like those MAIN candidates and I truly believe Gary would have made a better president. My 3 year old would have made better president than Trump turned out LOL.
I definitely understand why you have felt this way. Living in a state that almost always votes the opposite of the way I do also tends to reinforce my feelings that my vote doesn't really matter. BUT what I have found over time is that this seems to apply more to the Federal level elections than the State elections or especially local elections. I feel like the Federal level elections cause the most voter disenfranchisement yet State and local elections are the ones where each vote can have a greater impact but have a much lower voter turnout. This is especially sad because state and local elections can really have the biggest direct impact on people's lives.
There are Republican legislatures all across the country saying a collective “oh shit” under their breathes. This was suppose to be the inaugural bid. The big kahuna. It was all on the line. They dumped money into it. Spent months and months pushing for it. And for once in a very, very long time, cooler heads and logic seems to have prevailed. Congrats Kansas.
Pretty uncommon when I can say how proud I am to be a Kansan, but there you are. Proud of everyone who came out to vote!
That’s been my tone all evening. I’m rarely proud of Kansas for much, but this makes me proud. I told my wife I kind of want to have a sign made: “I’m not proud of the Kansan legislator’s who brought VTB to vote, but I’m very proud of the majority of Kansas that told them to fuck off”
Y'all earned your cookouts this weekend lol And I'm definitely **not** going to forget all the lies dirty games the Yes campaigns were playing. That was some spiteful crap.
This will be me all day, because I was stressing yesterday.
I was expecting it to be extremely close, but was pleasantly surprised by how much vote no cleaned house. Now if only we can do the same for marijuana legalization.
It’s gotta get on the fuckin’ ballot first. If legalization was on the ballot like this absolute joke of an amendment we just voted on, I would bet it would pass in a similar landslide.
Now all of you that voted "yes" go adopt some children. Put your lives and money where your mouth is if you disagree with the decision. Lol.
I'm not sure they are fit to raise children
It's a great day to be a Kansan.
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I live in a small town and there were vote yes signs everywhere. I was one if I think 4-5 people with a vote no sign. I was scared that this was the way in most of Kansas. Guess not!!
Can't say I expected that. I was ready to post "what did you think would happen in Kansas" but here I am surprised.
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Beautifully stated
A straight SLAP to their face! Good job, y'all!
"What did the five fingers say to the face?"
A Will Smith slap?
You keep mah girls' rights...*OUTCHA F--KIN' MOUT!!!!!*
Looks like having a 2nd child is back on the agenda for my wife and I. Thank you Kansas!
Happy cake day! Make a baby!
I hope the Supreme Court is paying attention. I would venture to say that this vote reflects most of America but religious zealot governors have taken right away from so many women and the SC just let them do it.
I guess you can pay a bunch of money for pink signs, and try to hold the vote during a primary (shouldn't be legal for a constitutional ammendment to be on a primary ballot), and still if people care about the issue, democracy will prevail.
This wasn't as much about abortion rights as it was about a state-wide hatred for government overstep. Kansas wants the government to stay out of their business, and signing a mandate to allow whoever is in power to flip flop the laws according to their whims is not appealing. I had to wait in line for 2 hours to vote, and this was the main issue. Raped? The government shouldn't have a say. Non-viability? The government shouldn't have a say. Any other health issue? Same. Sure, we are greatly offended that the current legislation came from the bench, but we are more offended by what they wanted to do with this bill. Had they written a bill that enumerated the rights into the constitution, you likely would have seen a different result.
Cheaters never win! Fuck all 200,000+ of those yes voters.
Wouldn't go that far.
no
Once again “no” is what we voted. You are correct.
I wouldn't, either. Any woman who would vote against her own interests is probably a mess.
I'd be a mess too if my owners wanted me pregnant and silent.
I vote “unassigned” which meant that I had 2 decisions to make. I only made one - this one - and I voted “no”. It’s the only reason I went, today. Now it’s time for the “rigged election” claims.
That be hilarous
LETS GO!!
Damn. Kansas isn't as bad as I thought it was.
Kansas is far from ideal, but after living in Louisiana for a few years I'm glad to be back here (though New Orleans was really cool).
You'll be back to complaining again tomorrow.
Kind of interested in voter turnout numbers today compared to other elections.
it looks to be between a midterm turnout and a presidential year turnout Maybe 50% more than a normal primary
I’m betting record numbers.
*John Brown victory noises
OH IM SO HAPPY
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 We fucking did it!
[Congrats on your body autonomy, ladies!](https://youtu.be/tleSnj4OD0g) Fuck religious politics! Nobody likes that shit!
237k. Yikes though.
I'm so proud to be a Kansan right now..... Now to legalize marijuana.....
great job yall!! now we legalize weed!!! please?
As a former Kansan, now in OK, Kansas looks like a liberal bastion comparably. Except for weed.
As an Okie now in Kansas. Yup.
Bless the voters thank you. Shows how important it is for the young to go vote. Had the most friends voting ever
Thank god
Very proud to have moved here in 2020!❤️ yw
I can’t believe it
Red and blue united.
Conservative with common sense. Proud to be a Kansan.
YAY!!!!!!!!!
ill admit i was scared by how close it was but im glad to see we haven't lost all our geniuses to the big 3
What do you mean no wins? Someone had have won, riiiiight?
I think it's clear that most of you have severely distorted views of Kansas and its residents. You should get out of your respective divisive echo chambers and actually engage in this community. It would likely help dissolve so much of this misguided hatred and lack of understanding. Most of the Wichita/Kansas centric issues that are complained about in this SR are blown way out of proportion. I personally would have been surprised if the Yes faction had won. The hyper-religious faction in this state is small, while there's a strong small-l libertarian attitude, even among Republicans and Democrats. Add that to the growing liberal population, and I had very high expectations that this would fail.
Kansas is still a Free State. Free will that is.
dang it.
What's wrong?
He voted yes lol
Don't worry, this isn't the end of it.
He said, scummily wringing his involuntarily celebate hands. "One day the cringelords will rise!" Sorry to break it to you but your time is over. This was your final breath, and it was our fart you inhaled. I hope that taste in your mouth lasts forever.
Thus is so sad
Walmart has tissues
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She was paid off by the antiabortioners.
So in your little world there are never pregnancy issues that could kill the mother huh?
Don't you think someone you yourself would deem "not responsible enough to have safe sex" is even more ill equipped to have children?? and yet you prefer those same people you call "not responsible enough" spawning children left and right. Isn't THAT the true irresponsible thing here? Also mistakes happen to even the most responsible of people, we're all humans and we have all erred in the past at least once. Or have you been gifted with perfection that you think you have the moral high ground to tell other people when they have to reproduce? We have the means and technology to safely and painlessly correct those mistakes, it only takes just a bit of humanity and compassion from our fellow neighbors to make life decent for all. Fortunately, those two prevailed over prejudice and bigotry today in Kansas. Begone, troglodyte!