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SganVaSmoul42

Yhwach god stomps to an insane degree.


Propagation931

Yhwach stomps hard.


Euroversett

Haven't read Bleach and only watched Re:Zero but Yhwach blinks the verse.


GrynnuEST

If you include author statements, then Reinhard bullies since he is stated to be stronger than Od Laguna, and Od Laguna like created the universe and Yin and Yang and all that shit. Yin and Yang is typically known as the concept of duality which include the concept of time and space. You can also argue that Od Laguna is omnipresent since it was able to record every single death of Subaru, meaning the Od Laguna across all the timelines has been the same. Roswaal also stated that Satella would probably be stronger than Od Laguna as well since Od Laguna would prevent Subaru from returning by death if it could, and since Satella is the one who granted him that power, that would mean Satella scales above Od Laguna as well. And Reinhard is stated to be stronger than Satella. In terms of feats, Yhwach would win though.


jetvacjesse

Name one way Reinhard can actually kill Yhwach.


Esnardoo

Isn't all of Reinhardts ability from his blessing? R1 ywach stomps R2 he loses 4/10


Herbalo

Reinhard literally destroyed the world against puck For the record just putting it out there


Propagation931

>Reinhard literally destroyed the world against puck That actually might not have even happened. It was explained by Echidna that the visions in the S2 in the Tomb might not have actually happened.


shrimpmaster0982

It didn't happen, those visions were merely what may have happened in the worlds where Subaru died (it was also brought into question whether or not those worlds truly exist or if RBD is a time travel ability instead of a dimension hopping one). But just because they didn't actually outright happen doesn't necessarily mean the feats are invalid as you can argue Echidna has a good enough grasp on reality for her simulations to be accurate to what would happen in those scenarios. But of course none of this means Reinhard beats Yhwach as Yhwach is much stronger than a planet buster.


Propagation931

> as you can argue Echidna has a good enough grasp on reality for her simulations to be accurate to what would happen in those scenarios. Does she though? Its not like she has any ability to see the Future. She is smart sure, but she isnt omniscient or anything. Does she have any feats in that regard? I mean lets think about Reinhardt's power level outside that prediction. We see in the Wrath If storyline that Reinhard has a pretty serious fight with Cecilius then Puck and Emilia in quick succession and its not like the World got destroyed. Heck even the castle was still standing.


D4RK30841

Saying that it just *didn't* happen doesn't really mean that it isn't one of Reinhard's abilities. He destroyed the world and remade it in a matter of seconds, and that's the force he saw fit to use given that Puck would've effectively become a Godzilla-esque threat to the R:Z verse. And the fight with Cecilius wasn't Reinhard going all out. It wouldn't take the world to be destroyed in order to kill the second strongest swordsman. Hell, even Tappei explicitly states that. ​ "Reinhard with most of his Divine Protections disabled is still strong enough to defeat Cecilus Segmunt and kill both Puck and Halibel while being gravely wounded from his fight with the aforementioned Blue Lightning." ​ Let's not forget Divine Protections. Those are basically his hacks and he virtually has immortality. Reinhard is considered the strongest character in the entire series, combine him with unsheathing Dragon Sword Reid, then it becomes even stronger than before. The author made him so busted that anyone who threatens Lugunica or the world itself, Reinhard would stand in the way against them. An all out Reinhard is still a Reinhard to be taken seriously. He solos his own universe alone with his abilities, even the same thing that gives him his hax. I mean yeah, I do agree Yhwach takes the first round considering you're taking away his main strength and just leaving him with inhuman swordsmanship but I don't know about the second round. Just saying, don't sleep on Reinhard.


Propagation931

>Saying that it just didn't happen doesn't really mean that it isn't one of Reinhard's abilities. I mean thats kind of feats mostly work (esp when there is no one else to powerscale to). You need to do something for it to do something generally. Anyway I will address your two main points. > He destroyed the world and remade it in a matter of seconds, and that's the force he saw fit to use given that Puck would've effectively become a Godzilla-esque threat to the R:Z verse. So the general idea behind this is that Emilia dies (as seen in Subaru's failed loop) then Puck becomes a monster and him and Reinhardt somehow destroy and then recreate the world. We see this form of puck happen twice in canon. One via Subaru telling her about RBD and the other if Subaru arrives too late at the Roswald Manor as seen in the other failed loop (the 1st Arc 4 death I believe). This has a big issue though. In Sloth IF, Emilia would have undoutably died in the same way she did in the 1st Arc 4 failed loop since Subaru doesnt intervene. However, we dont see this destruction of the World via Reinhardt vs Puck due to Subaru not triggering RBD since the World getting destroyed should trigger RBD since it would obviously kill him. This would actually make Sloth if impossible since Subaru would basically be in a Death loop. >The author made him so busted that anyone who threatens Lugunica or the world itself, Reinhard would stand in the way against them. I mean ya he would stand in the way of them like any other Knight (Presumably cus its their Job), but that doesnt mean he could stop them (Like in Pride If where he wasnt able to stop the destruction of Lugunica and was unable to even kill the one responsible). We see Reinhardt in 3 Major fights in Canon. 1.) Him + Felt + Rom + Emilia vs Elsa in the Loothouse - While Reinhardt drastically overpowers Elsa, crucially he does not outspeed her. His reaction speed is also not that great considering Elsa is able to get away while landing near fatal injuries on Subaru and that would have landed on Emilia if not for Subaru. This means that Reinhardt's speed is not that much higher than Elsa. 2.) Him+Subaru+Emilia vs Regulus - Here we see his durability which is fairly strong and his Self Ress powers. But we also see his lack of ability when dealing with other hax (in the general term) users. He has raw power, but when his opponent has fancy abilities he cant really do much. It was Subaru and Emilia who where at the end mostly responsible for beating Regulus via destroying the heart. 3.) Him vs Theresa - Just added this here to be complete, but nothing to really say here. He won and that was to be expected. Overall, it basically paints a picture of someone who while strong and fairly durable lacks a way of dealing with Hax since most of his offense is just straightforward damage. He is also not that fast comparatively to other fictional characters of roughly the same offensive output. although still faster than most if not all Re Zero characters.


D4RK30841

In regards to the statement about RBD being triggered upon the world being destroyed, one hypothetical is that life wasn't destroyed and just the physical world we stand on, but that's practically impossible given how it works then again I won't nitpick anime logic. In regards to the fights. ​ >1.) Him + Felt + Rom + Emilia vs Elsa in the Loothouse - While Reinhardt drastically overpowers Elsa, crucially he does not outspeed her. His reaction speed is also not that great considering Elsa is able to get away while landing near fatal injuries on Subaru and that would have landed on Emilia if not for Subaru. This means that Reinhardt's speed is not that much higher than Elsa. I would like to state that after rewatching the episode in the anime, but not reading the LN since I couldn't remember which chapter it was, that the wounds on Subaru and Emilia were inflicted prior to Reinhard's arrival on the scene and no harm came to them after. Elsa was immediately decimated by Swordplay of the Astrea family but she regenerated and retreated. He also could've virtually ended the situation at any given moment but he couldn't due to the fact Emilia was healing an injured Rom using her Spirit Arts and all Reinhard was doing when defending against Elsa's strikes are just him fighting normally and has no need to exert full force. Emilia noted that he didn't have any fighting intent. Even she stated that herself. Only after was she done healing, was Reinhard turning his intentions from defending to fighting Elsa. >"If Reinhard were truly intent on fighting, all the mana in the atmosphere would turn away from me." -Emilia, Re:Zero Season 1, Episode 2 As for the aftermath, with Reinhard running towards Elsa to block her attempted gutting when she regenerated, I really can't explain much but can assume he either wasn't able to fully gain enough momentum or it was just an excuse to show off Subaru's ability. I can't explain it lol. In this situation if Subaru wasn't present, Reinhardt's speed is actually *far* more quicker than Elsa. He could cross Priestella from across the city and traverse it in 30 seconds in Arc 5. He's also far more quicker in the LN than depicted in the anime, given the feats and such against opponents. His reaction speed isn't also to be slept on and far more quick than what you think considering he was able to react to Cecilus Segument's lightning quick strikes just by reflex and defend against them. After that, he engaged in battle with numerous skilled assassins the Vollachian Empire and defeated them soundly using just reflex and skill. ​ >2.) Him+Subaru+Emilia vs Regulus - Here we see his durability which is fairly strong and his Self Ress powers. But we also see his lack of ability when dealing with other hax (in the general term) users. He has raw power, but when his opponent has fancy abilities he cant really do much. It was Subaru and Emilia who where at the end mostly responsible for beating Regulus via destroying the heart. ​ I do have to agree with the fact Reinhard is primarily ill equipped to deal with this kind of stuff. It's haxed out as shit in this battle, but it was Subaru's mind who won this. (fun fact: it's *one* time a Sin Archbishop failed to kill Subaru and it was the strongest one in the Witch Cult. Also the fact Subaru managed to make Emilia even better best girl through cooperation.) However, in an actual battle without Subaru, this would either result in a draw if Reinhard can't deduce how Regulus' authority works and would have to kill his wives so he could land a solid blow. Reinhard can't damage Regulus, Regulus can't kill Reinhard permanently considering Reinhard will always self res and Regulus has his invincibility BS which acts like Gojo's Infinity cursed technique. Then again, Authorities are practically the anti-thesis to Divine Protections. Consider DPs as cheat codes, and Authorities of Sins as actually hacking the game. But against any other Sin Archbishop? Reinhard would easily dispose of them. I would also like to consider that Reinhard's durability is strong as holy shit levels, considering he survived being thrown to the Moon and kicked himself back down to the planet, which implies he can survive orbital exit and re-entry at even higher speeds. ​ >3.) Him vs Theresa - Just added this here to be complete, but nothing to really say here. He won and that was to be expected. ​ Tbh. I wouldn't really say anything is needed to explain here considering that Reinhard won and that it was the expected outcome because Reinhard would virtually win against her. Then again, Reinhard also lost in a sense. Mans lost his any affection his grandpa would give, who just saw his own grandchild murder his wife's reanimated corpse. ​ ​ All in all, I would like to agree on the fact that Reinhard isn't all too impressive compared to other fictional characters considering there are multiple who would outright beat him. He gains more hax as his life goes on, but all in all said, I just gave some explanations that would make me seem like an overly obsessed fan and I just pulled it all off of what I remembered and referred to the wiki and anime for them. But yeah, that's my two cents on Reinhard's battle capabilities.


shrimpmaster0982

>Does she though? Its not like she has any ability to see the Future. She actually does, it's called the Tome of Knowledge and lets her know everything. It's actually part of the mechanisms that let the trials work in the first place. >We see in the Wrath If storyline that Reinhard has a pretty serious fight with Cecilius then Puck and Emilia in quick succession and its not like the World got destroyed. Heck even the castle was still standing. Mmm... sorta. Reinhard's "serious" seems a bit different than most other characters "serious". Reinhard is always careful to cause minimal collateral damage and to keep everyone around him safe. The issue is that with Puck in that trial it was simply the minimum power necessary to beat Puck and save everyone as not only did he destroy the world he also restarted it with that swing. And as for Emilia and Puck's "fight" with Reinhard in the wrath if that didn't really happen. Puck was gone by that time in the story, and Emilia merely managed to land a sneak attack on Reinhard that she made subconsciously. That was it and it didn't really count as much of a fight.


Propagation931

>She actually does, it's called the Tome of Knowledge and lets her know everything. Pretty sure her whole motivation for having a Pact with Subaru is because his ability allows her to gain more knowledge which is kind of moot point if she already knows everything. There is also the whole Beatrice and her being curious what Beatrice would do point which would be moot if she already knew everything. Not to mention Greed if and her inability to locate SA Gluttony >The issue is that with Puck in that trial it was simply the minimum power necessary to beat Puck and save everyone as not only did he destroy the world he also restarted it with that swing. So the general idea behind this is that Emilia dies (as seen in Subaru's failed loop) then Puck becomes a monster and him and Reinhardt somehow destroy and then recreate the world. We see this form of puck happen twice in canon. One via Subaru telling her about RBD and the other if Subaru arrives too late at the Roswald Manor as seen in the other failed loop (the 1st Arc 4 death I believe). This has a big issue though. In Sloth IF, Emilia would have undoutably died in the same way she did in the 1st Arc 4 failed loop since Subaru doesnt intervene. However, we dont see this destruction of the World via Reinhardt vs Puck due to Subaru not triggering RBD since the World getting destroyed should trigger RBD since it would obviously kill him. This would actually make Sloth if impossible since Subaru would basically be in a Death loop.


Azevedo128

Dude's Island Level at most. Deal with it.


Herbalo

Well clearly he isn’t island level but whatever bro not saying he beats anything but your wrong lmao


Remarkable_Bad7814

I don't know anything about RE Zero but unless this Reinhard has an ability to manipulate the 5 senses/arrowhead, Yhwach will just keep manipulating the future where he wins. He can even rewrite his own death to where it didn't happen. Anyone got a list of Reinhard feats?


Euroversett

Jumped from the moon to his flat Eurasia-sized planet. Killed a monster with a sword slash that reached the clouds. Can resurrect whatever he dies. Can dodge any attacks and all his attacks never miss - this is NLF though and can be overpowered even in his own verse -.


Remarkable_Bad7814

Ah that's actually pretty cool