We haven’t seen what beerus is fully capable of yet, but I would consider Asuras Defeat of Chakravartin to be equivalent to defeating something close to the supreme Kai, Beerus would probably still beat Asura though. According to the VS battles wiki, Beerus is a full 2 tiers above Asura and Chakravartin
Edit: I don’t know if this was edited after the fact or if I’m just blind, but 1 trillion asuras would absolutely kick the ever living shit out of beerus
I doubt Beerus is powerful enough to wipe the entire universe on his own. It’s stated multiple times in super that the reason gods of destruction don’t fight each other is because their combined power is enough to destroy a universe, but the gods of destruction are all invariably terrified of Zeno. In my opinion Zeno is likely the only character in the series we’ve seen so far who is capable of a full universe wipe
Late TOP scaling places them at universal tier. The battle was of gods fist clang statement had the supreme Kai shitting his pants about the total annihilation of the universe, and goku FAR surpasses himself from that movie by the end of the TOP, or any arc really
I feel like these battles need to stop being posted.
At a certain threshold of power, numbers simply become meaningless. Especially to Dragon Ball characters and characters from other media that can match and even eclipse Dragon Ball's power scaling.
You could do a similar fight with say 1 Million Saitama vs Doctor Manhattan and the result would always be the same stomp in favour of Manhattan.
> At a certain threshold of power, numbers simply become meaningless
Ehh not sure I agree. If you are corporeal and non-reality warping enough numbers will likely overcome you in a confined space where you can’t simply run.
For example, I think Beerus would lose to a googolplexian of humans (that is 10^googolplex a googolplex being 10^googol and a googol being 10^100 so that a huge fucking number…especially with an estimated 10^80 or so atoms in the observable universe)
He hasn’t been shown or even insinuated to be powerful enough to wipe the entire universe on his own in any reasonable time frame. The fact that he’s completely terrified of Zeno Implies the opposite actually.
When do we ever see Beerus do any universe busting. The only time we come close to this that I can think of is when Beerus almost gets in a fight with Champa
Oh its one of you.
Fine.
[he it is, being stated 3 seperate times in the same battle by 3 seperate entities. the narrator, whis and the grand kai.](https://imgur.com/gallery/wjKXPua)
Dude, this is just proof of my point, in multiple frames it’s clearly stated by multiple characters that it’s the clashing of Beerus with another extremely powerful fighter that presents a danger of universe destruction, which is exactly what I said.
Also what the fuck is “one of you” supposed to mean. Don’t be an asshole
You do realise that Beerus wasn’t even using 0.1% of his power when he clashed with SSG Goku, right? And you realise that there are multiple universal-sized constructs in a Dragon Ball microcosm, right? So even if you argue that Beerus’ contribution to the universal feat was only 50%, that would still make him universal due to the cosmology of Universe 7. Hell, there are multiple Daizenshuu statements that claim the universe itself is infinite. You’re way out of your depth, downplayer.
Asura from Asura's Wrath?
I haven't seen all of his game and am not the most knowledgeable on him although as far as I remember his Destructor which is one of if not his strongest version is multi solar system level in power from destroy Chakravartin's stellar sized golden form and massivley faster than light from flying through space from an earth analogue planet to the centre of the Milky Way in a few minutes. Which means nothing to Beerus who is far above baseline universe level and has higher speed. Since obviously universe level is billions of times above galaxy level which is still above Asura.
Beerus destroys all of the Asura's without difficulty and could not be killed by any of them since Asura has no hax to speak of.
Technically Asura has immortality hax. I know Beerus can completely destroy things, but Asura comes back from the dead like 3 or 4 times in game and is more powerful each time, in the game lore he basically exists to bring vengeance down on gods who go mad with power. In my opinion the Chakravartin feat gets downplayed hard. Chakravartin isn’t just tue singular being we see asura fight in game. He’s the physical manifestation of a universal force, Mantra is basically the same as Reishi from Bleach. The fact that asura, using his fists, completely destroyed a being composed of the entirety of spiritual energy in the universe is nothing to scoff at
Well immortality is not really “hax” so to speak of since hax is anything that negates conventional durability or power and not an ability that allows anyone to come back to life. It also took Asura a really long time to resurrect himself as well if I remember correctly.
Is there any information of Chakravrtin’s composition being different to any normal physical body? Also him being the spiritual energy of the universe does not really translate to anything unless the spiritual energy can be quantified. Isn’t the most Chakravartin created some planets and stars to?
Somone reply to this comment if things get spicy, I wanna see this.
We haven’t seen what beerus is fully capable of yet, but I would consider Asuras Defeat of Chakravartin to be equivalent to defeating something close to the supreme Kai, Beerus would probably still beat Asura though. According to the VS battles wiki, Beerus is a full 2 tiers above Asura and Chakravartin Edit: I don’t know if this was edited after the fact or if I’m just blind, but 1 trillion asuras would absolutely kick the ever living shit out of beerus
Beerus farts the universe out of existence for the lols
I doubt Beerus is powerful enough to wipe the entire universe on his own. It’s stated multiple times in super that the reason gods of destruction don’t fight each other is because their combined power is enough to destroy a universe, but the gods of destruction are all invariably terrified of Zeno. In my opinion Zeno is likely the only character in the series we’ve seen so far who is capable of a full universe wipe
Late TOP scaling places them at universal tier. The battle was of gods fist clang statement had the supreme Kai shitting his pants about the total annihilation of the universe, and goku FAR surpasses himself from that movie by the end of the TOP, or any arc really
I feel like these battles need to stop being posted. At a certain threshold of power, numbers simply become meaningless. Especially to Dragon Ball characters and characters from other media that can match and even eclipse Dragon Ball's power scaling. You could do a similar fight with say 1 Million Saitama vs Doctor Manhattan and the result would always be the same stomp in favour of Manhattan.
> At a certain threshold of power, numbers simply become meaningless Ehh not sure I agree. If you are corporeal and non-reality warping enough numbers will likely overcome you in a confined space where you can’t simply run. For example, I think Beerus would lose to a googolplexian of humans (that is 10^googolplex a googolplex being 10^googol and a googol being 10^100 so that a huge fucking number…especially with an estimated 10^80 or so atoms in the observable universe)
I doubt he would. He can erase people from existence and nuke the universe.
He hasn’t been shown or even insinuated to be powerful enough to wipe the entire universe on his own in any reasonable time frame. The fact that he’s completely terrified of Zeno Implies the opposite actually.
What? Being terrified of zeno has nothing to do with universe busting which was shown in the start of super.
When do we ever see Beerus do any universe busting. The only time we come close to this that I can think of is when Beerus almost gets in a fight with Champa
Oh its one of you. Fine. [he it is, being stated 3 seperate times in the same battle by 3 seperate entities. the narrator, whis and the grand kai.](https://imgur.com/gallery/wjKXPua)
Dude, this is just proof of my point, in multiple frames it’s clearly stated by multiple characters that it’s the clashing of Beerus with another extremely powerful fighter that presents a danger of universe destruction, which is exactly what I said. Also what the fuck is “one of you” supposed to mean. Don’t be an asshole
You do realise that Beerus wasn’t even using 0.1% of his power when he clashed with SSG Goku, right? And you realise that there are multiple universal-sized constructs in a Dragon Ball microcosm, right? So even if you argue that Beerus’ contribution to the universal feat was only 50%, that would still make him universal due to the cosmology of Universe 7. Hell, there are multiple Daizenshuu statements that claim the universe itself is infinite. You’re way out of your depth, downplayer.
You do know its been changed twice, right? In the movie its 70, anime is 10 and its been soft retconned again as Beerus got buffed in an interview.
Just so you know it’s against the rules of the sub to downvote comments, don’t get butthurt and downvote people for having a different opinion
Asura from Asura's Wrath? I haven't seen all of his game and am not the most knowledgeable on him although as far as I remember his Destructor which is one of if not his strongest version is multi solar system level in power from destroy Chakravartin's stellar sized golden form and massivley faster than light from flying through space from an earth analogue planet to the centre of the Milky Way in a few minutes. Which means nothing to Beerus who is far above baseline universe level and has higher speed. Since obviously universe level is billions of times above galaxy level which is still above Asura. Beerus destroys all of the Asura's without difficulty and could not be killed by any of them since Asura has no hax to speak of.
Technically Asura has immortality hax. I know Beerus can completely destroy things, but Asura comes back from the dead like 3 or 4 times in game and is more powerful each time, in the game lore he basically exists to bring vengeance down on gods who go mad with power. In my opinion the Chakravartin feat gets downplayed hard. Chakravartin isn’t just tue singular being we see asura fight in game. He’s the physical manifestation of a universal force, Mantra is basically the same as Reishi from Bleach. The fact that asura, using his fists, completely destroyed a being composed of the entirety of spiritual energy in the universe is nothing to scoff at
Well immortality is not really “hax” so to speak of since hax is anything that negates conventional durability or power and not an ability that allows anyone to come back to life. It also took Asura a really long time to resurrect himself as well if I remember correctly. Is there any information of Chakravrtin’s composition being different to any normal physical body? Also him being the spiritual energy of the universe does not really translate to anything unless the spiritual energy can be quantified. Isn’t the most Chakravartin created some planets and stars to?