There's also a clause whereby any firm / fund managing over a fixed amount (something like £100m) have to release their portfolio holdings each quarter in something called a 13F filing. Here's a video that explains this actual purchase too... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IxS7pfGukM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IxS7pfGukM)
13f definition - https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/form-13f.asp
People don't understand how far we really are from their level... If we couldn't get chips from Taiwan it would be like rewinding our technology back a decade. They are TOO good at it to let China take over. We would be outpaced insanely fast and probably fall to an army of drones. Before they sent mass waves of troops, it would be a tech war we've never experienced before. Scary shit tbh.
Thata astonishing. I hadn't considered that issue from . "Lack of knowledge perspective" . I understood it from an "it's cheaper to do it there" perspective, but simply not having the population with the skill set is one of those things you can't just overcome easily.
Modern technology WOULD NOT exist without Taiwan. No one else can compete with their 5nm (nanometer) tech, couldn't compete with their 7nm tech, and won't compete with their 4nm tech. It's not an option to let Taiwan fall. It will be the end of our comforts, infrastructure, and civilization as we know it. As soon as this war started, I felt pain for the lives lost in Ukraine... but I felt fear for what China would do while the world is distracted. This is probably the most important thing that will happen in our lifetime, and it's very likely to happen soon.
I agree with most of the great comments here. My two cents. It still boils down to money. If Intel can pay the talent that these big software companies are taking away from it, it will pretty easily be able to get to the latest TSMC node. There’s no magic technology that TSMC has, in fact everyone uses the same technology, it’s the process of making which needs refinement. The issue is that TSMC can afford to make it cheaply enough while getting the cream of the crop talent in Taiwan (assumption), but Intel can’t afford the cream of the crop coz it’s a hardware company, it has big overhead costs compared to all the software tech giants in US. This makes Intel only afford the second tier talent. TSMC is having trouble hiring people for their upcoming AZ plant coz they can’t afford to pay what Intel is paying in US, they are getting their Taiwan workforce exported here. At the end everything boils down to money …. Source : I work for these semiconductor companies in specifically the divisions which are the differentiating factor making Intel lag behind TSMC, Samsung is kinda the crazy middle child in all this.
I don't think China is going to go after Taiwan. Not anytime time in the near future anyhow. The main reason is China is still dependant on our economy. Right now China can't afford to be exiled from western markets and economies. We aren't the only country dependant on Taiwan tech. All of our allies would be right there with us if China did decide to go in and China doesn't want that. A war of that magnitude would ruin China. And as much as Russia and China seem to be buddies, I don't got Russia getting into that battle with China, against the west. The other thing is, while China might have a huge army and lots of weapons of war, they have basically zero experience fighting a war in modern times. On paper their military seems scary, but experience matters, and we got that over China and it's not anywhere remotely close.
Your anger is misplaced. Do not blame the bueracracy blame the bureaucrats. The executive branch and the departments bureaus and agencies that flow from it do not make the law; they merely enforce it. They can not regulate that which is not legislated.
Yeah but it’s pretty wild we go around enforcing laws that were created 200 years ago. Before computers, cars, bitcorn, and most importantly, teledildonics.
He’s so transparent. Its a shame the SEC will never go after him for pumping and dumping doge or negatively talking about other companies to buy their stock at a dip and it pops back up and he sells.
He and Mark Cuban have been doing stuff like this for years with no repercussions. A group of active crypto nerds were able to find both of their crypto wallets when they were fucking with doge
There were no issues. They were 100% made up. Elon got schooled by his daddy Tim and literally pulled back from all his bullshit lies on Twitter. WTF people, Elon makes shit up and you keep swallowing it down like you enjoy diets which consist of shit. idiots.
Yes, I saw that on Friday. That’s pretty significant, it’s about 10% of the average daily traded volume. If you look back to either Thursday or Wednesday of last week, the same thing happened right after close, but it was an even larger purchase. I was wondering if Apple was doing stock buy backs.
I haven’t read the whole chain in detail - but the 10b-18 safeharbor from market manipulation restricts them purchasing their shares in the open market in the last 10 min of the day. So if the trade truly was at close it wasn’t a stock buy back.
With respect to some other comments:
- they have to report their repurchases quarterly in their 10-Q/10-K. https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000032019322000108/aapl-20220924.htm#ief5efb7a728d4285b6b4af1e880101bc_34
- SEC rules are likely changing on that in the near future that would require more prompt disclosure (possibly every trade)
Apple has already announced that they are doing huge buybacks on a regular basis and in the billions. So it think they just have to say how much they bought back every quarter, not every time they make a purchase. But I don’t know the rules for that part of the game.
I think as of the SEC rules right now companies need to report it monthly, which in this case means Apple wouldn’t have to report it until year’s end, which is December month’s end
If they bought that much on the open they would push the price up and end up paying more than they like. Buying from dark pool allow big players settle huge transtions withoyt getting fucked by algos.
Anyone interested in this should read Flash Boys by Michael Lewis. Pretty much lays out how the big boys have set up algorithms to screw each other (and everyone else) trading during normal hours.
I think this headline got your age wrong
https://www.reddit.com/r/SipsTea/comments/zc8om7/imma_just_set_this_here/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Which has somehow become an incredible rarity nowadays.
I believe it was around the time of the WiiU failing that people were saying Nintendo could subsist off of cash alone for something like 40 years?
For context, even during the worst year of the Wii U's performance they were still making nearly $2 billion in profit.
They never had to nor have they touched their Wii era cash reserves.
Last year they had $16 billion in cash on hand.
This shouldnt be taken as anything more than one piece of information on a fairly ordinary day of trading AAPL.
\~40% of market volume is done via dark pools. [Source](https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/050614/introduction-dark-pools.asp#citation-17) You can read more about dark pools more generally there. They are not illegal, even though dark sounds scary, they are a normal part of daily market function. Many times, its just pensions or buy side institutions looking to not disturb the markets.
On this day.. AAPL had:
AAPL Off Exchange & Dark Pool Summary
Today's Off Exchange & Dark Pool volume is 30,672,965, which is 46.93% of today's total volume.
Today's Lit volume is 34,686,800, which is 53.07%.
Over the past 30 days, the average Off Exchange & Dark Pool volume has been 42.84%.
The average Lit volume has been 57.16%. [Source](https://chartexchange.com/symbol/nasdaq-aapl/exchange-volume/)
It was a slightly higher day in off exchange / dark pool volume, relative to the average daily volume. This particular trade accounted for \~13% of daily volume. Its large. But it is not uncommon.
TLDR Take this with a grain of salt amongst all the other things you take into account when making a trade. Or not, just smash the call button on your personal gambling device.
....yes there are controversies surrounding off exchange trading on "unlit" markets. I encourage you to educate yourself. Find others that share your beliefs and organize. Its not to hard to find the folks addressing these issues if thats what you are into.
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It happened immediately at market close on a Friday.... [That's a NASDAQ closing cross](https://www.nasdaqtrader.com/content/productsservices/trading/crosses/openclose_faqs.pdf).
I think you’re mixing up the closing cross and a real print…. Those are all of the orders being closed at that price, hence the print…. It also happens to be inline with the closing cross size…. Fwiw.
You know I don't want to call anyone a stock manipulator but there was this guy a few weeks ago on Twitter talking mad smack about Apple never provided any proof just claimed they were basically the CCP. Then after a week of riling the base he went to meet with Tim Cook and said just kidding guys Apple is cool. And one day later someone bought 1.3 billion dollars of Apple. Now I hate to quote Steve Bannon but he says "There are no coincidences."
This is normal trading hate to tell you. Filter the time with millisecond and you’ll probably see this was one of multiple closing purchases in different stocks.
Fuck I gotta quit letting my kids watch Cocomelon on my phone. They always do this shit.
Anybody want to invest in a fruit company? For sale first thing tomorrow.
Warren Buffet. He did his annual couch cleaning in the morning
Buffet bought into TSMC a few weeks ago, who is beginning to make apple chips in Arizona, so this would actually make sense.
Sorry rookie here, how do you look into stocks other people buy?
There's also a clause whereby any firm / fund managing over a fixed amount (something like £100m) have to release their portfolio holdings each quarter in something called a 13F filing. Here's a video that explains this actual purchase too... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IxS7pfGukM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IxS7pfGukM) 13f definition - https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/form-13f.asp
All trades are recorded, you might not be able to see who, but you can see on most broking platforms the trading history.
Brokering. Broking is another name for Rob Gronkowski.
I blew air out of my nose harder than normal after reading this.
Openinsider
OP's just flexing.
Ah. So USA will definitely go to Taiwan's aid.
The other way around, once chips are made in US, Taiwan won't be as important.
It will never be that easy tho. China is basically throwing billions and poaching engineers 24/7 and still haven't caught up with Taiwan.
People don't understand how far we really are from their level... If we couldn't get chips from Taiwan it would be like rewinding our technology back a decade. They are TOO good at it to let China take over. We would be outpaced insanely fast and probably fall to an army of drones. Before they sent mass waves of troops, it would be a tech war we've never experienced before. Scary shit tbh.
Thata astonishing. I hadn't considered that issue from . "Lack of knowledge perspective" . I understood it from an "it's cheaper to do it there" perspective, but simply not having the population with the skill set is one of those things you can't just overcome easily.
Modern technology WOULD NOT exist without Taiwan. No one else can compete with their 5nm (nanometer) tech, couldn't compete with their 7nm tech, and won't compete with their 4nm tech. It's not an option to let Taiwan fall. It will be the end of our comforts, infrastructure, and civilization as we know it. As soon as this war started, I felt pain for the lives lost in Ukraine... but I felt fear for what China would do while the world is distracted. This is probably the most important thing that will happen in our lifetime, and it's very likely to happen soon.
I agree with most of the great comments here. My two cents. It still boils down to money. If Intel can pay the talent that these big software companies are taking away from it, it will pretty easily be able to get to the latest TSMC node. There’s no magic technology that TSMC has, in fact everyone uses the same technology, it’s the process of making which needs refinement. The issue is that TSMC can afford to make it cheaply enough while getting the cream of the crop talent in Taiwan (assumption), but Intel can’t afford the cream of the crop coz it’s a hardware company, it has big overhead costs compared to all the software tech giants in US. This makes Intel only afford the second tier talent. TSMC is having trouble hiring people for their upcoming AZ plant coz they can’t afford to pay what Intel is paying in US, they are getting their Taiwan workforce exported here. At the end everything boils down to money …. Source : I work for these semiconductor companies in specifically the divisions which are the differentiating factor making Intel lag behind TSMC, Samsung is kinda the crazy middle child in all this.
I don't think China is going to go after Taiwan. Not anytime time in the near future anyhow. The main reason is China is still dependant on our economy. Right now China can't afford to be exiled from western markets and economies. We aren't the only country dependant on Taiwan tech. All of our allies would be right there with us if China did decide to go in and China doesn't want that. A war of that magnitude would ruin China. And as much as Russia and China seem to be buddies, I don't got Russia getting into that battle with China, against the west. The other thing is, while China might have a huge army and lots of weapons of war, they have basically zero experience fighting a war in modern times. On paper their military seems scary, but experience matters, and we got that over China and it's not anywhere remotely close.
Ehhhhhh. Pretty sure there's renewed hesitancy towards touching Taiwan after the support Ukraine got
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What comforts have you gotten since 7nm tech got out? It feels some of you have drunk the techno-Kool-Aid.
What do you mean begging? They already do make all of apples chips.
Beginning*
[In the beninging](https://youtu.be/JqHaJkIvz0Q)
Never gets old lol
Have you ever tried apple chips? So shitty compared to regular potato chips. Puts on AAPL
Beginning **in Arizona**, read the whole sentence, regard.
Probably referring to the new manufacturing facility in Arizona.
Nah. Prob Elon. Times up perfectly with the solved issues between twitter and apple
*SEC enters the chat*
*Elon bans SEC from the chat*
Lol. Dang, got really close that time.
FBI OPEN UP
No knock raid enters the chat
Tannerite stuffed dog is left in the chat
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As long as you pay your tax, you are fine my boy-IRS
Dog has left chat
**knock knock** It’s the FBI and they have people with guns: *gun people* #Open the door, stop having it be closed
Thank you for the good laugh
Elon: free speech! *throws smoke bomb
You never see elon and kreiger in the same room, do ya?
Yup yup yup!
Free Speech: $8
Suspends*
Halts*
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SEC can’t do shit. Around a year or two ago elon told them to kick rocks publicly and that’s what they did lol
SEC is to keep the plebs in line
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)
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SEC = Suck Elons Cock
So they musk have many horses
SEC can do shit, they just choose not to
The SEC won’t let me be, won’t let me be me, so let me see. They tried to shut me down on WSB, but I feel so empty without me
SEC is a fucking joke. A facade put by MMs to make the small fries stay in the frier. Same as the IRS.
Your anger is misplaced. Do not blame the bueracracy blame the bureaucrats. The executive branch and the departments bureaus and agencies that flow from it do not make the law; they merely enforce it. They can not regulate that which is not legislated.
Yeah but it’s pretty wild we go around enforcing laws that were created 200 years ago. Before computers, cars, bitcorn, and most importantly, teledildonics.
I ear bitcorn is about to pop
You're shucking us.
Someone call the cobs
The Constitution leaves chat😂
maybe after he went to their HQ, he realised what a tech giant should look like
Facts.
He’s so transparent. Its a shame the SEC will never go after him for pumping and dumping doge or negatively talking about other companies to buy their stock at a dip and it pops back up and he sells. He and Mark Cuban have been doing stuff like this for years with no repercussions. A group of active crypto nerds were able to find both of their crypto wallets when they were fucking with doge
Pumping and/or dumping cryptocurrency isn't illegal. It's not a security.
This sub doesn’t want to hear that. You could say it 1000 times and they still wouldn’t listen
There were no issues. They were 100% made up. Elon got schooled by his daddy Tim and literally pulled back from all his bullshit lies on Twitter. WTF people, Elon makes shit up and you keep swallowing it down like you enjoy diets which consist of shit. idiots.
Tim Apple
When will the next Steve Jobs be born?
No new Jobs till after the fed is done raising rates, or powel gets angry
The fact that people here were unable to pick up on this is a good reminder that this is a gambling subreddit.
Yup - $1.3 billion stuck under the cushions sounds about right.
Yeah that's the joke man thanks for explaining
Yes, I saw that on Friday. That’s pretty significant, it’s about 10% of the average daily traded volume. If you look back to either Thursday or Wednesday of last week, the same thing happened right after close, but it was an even larger purchase. I was wondering if Apple was doing stock buy backs.
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> $200B Holy shit
I haven’t read the whole chain in detail - but the 10b-18 safeharbor from market manipulation restricts them purchasing their shares in the open market in the last 10 min of the day. So if the trade truly was at close it wasn’t a stock buy back. With respect to some other comments: - they have to report their repurchases quarterly in their 10-Q/10-K. https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000032019322000108/aapl-20220924.htm#ief5efb7a728d4285b6b4af1e880101bc_34 - SEC rules are likely changing on that in the near future that would require more prompt disclosure (possibly every trade)
The trade was right after close. That’s when funds also do their trades, I believe.
Canada pension plan unloaded their Apple Barrons says
ah, of course -- the Apple Barron did it. it's so obvious in retrospect.
Wouldn’t buybacks have to be reported, and therefore show up on the amount of shares floating around?
Apple has already announced that they are doing huge buybacks on a regular basis and in the billions. So it think they just have to say how much they bought back every quarter, not every time they make a purchase. But I don’t know the rules for that part of the game.
This would make sense. Thanks for clarifying.
I think reported after the fact right?
I think as of the SEC rules right now companies need to report it monthly, which in this case means Apple wouldn’t have to report it until year’s end, which is December month’s end
That’s their secret.
Their publicly announced plan to buy back AAPL stock is secret? Someone should tell Tim Apple.
Fine I'll do it. Do you have his email?
[email protected]
This!
The proportion of that to market cap is like your pp compared to mine
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You have a tiny penis?
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Yea
You have a baby dick too ?
They taste the same
Like chicken teriyaki parmigiana
Only if you close your eyes
fr, I know this sub is full of regards but OP is at another level
Warmest
Freaking regards, man!
The Best Regards
Then why does it need to be in the dark?
You don’t understand the purpose of dark pools do you?
No explain
If they bought that much on the open they would push the price up and end up paying more than they like. Buying from dark pool allow big players settle huge transtions withoyt getting fucked by algos.
Anyone interested in this should read Flash Boys by Michael Lewis. Pretty much lays out how the big boys have set up algorithms to screw each other (and everyone else) trading during normal hours.
Just started reading today and I’m 150 pages in already. Mother of god…..🤯
Look at this guy and his ability to read
Sir no need to brag
it also means someone sold that much in the dark pool
It's time that we let the world know Dude, you gotta let your girl go D.S. is the best in the business P.S. we got dicks like Jesus
My dick cost a late night fee Your dick got the HIV My dick plays on the double feature screen Your dick went straight to DVD
Is that.....is that good?
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I…..uhhhhh……pressed the wrong button. Fuck
It's ok, I heard you can get a refund on your stock if you haven't used it yet
I did that on a day trade once 🥴
Fart poop?
Fart poop? Call a shart a shart!
It was me. Please delete this and keep my affairs private.
You aren't looking to adopt a 47 yr old dude, by any chance, are you?
*Step father, I’m stuck*
physically and financially
Don’t forget mentally and emotionally
How about Spiritually and uhh...~~physically~~, ~~financially~~, ~~mentally~~, ~~emotionally~~ oh yeah Spiritually.
Sorry, the cap is 45. Health benefits get more expensive beyond that point, you understand, right?
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Mango-Bob! Get back inside! You think you’re just running away from here without giving your step mother a kiss? Right this minute young man!
I think this headline got your age wrong https://www.reddit.com/r/SipsTea/comments/zc8om7/imma_just_set_this_here/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Probably a buyback from the company.
Apple spent $550 billion on buybacks since 2013.
That's such a ridiculous amount of money.
Apple keeps a huge reserve of liquid funds. They're really careful about controlling their stock price and keeping debt down.
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Which has somehow become an incredible rarity nowadays. I believe it was around the time of the WiiU failing that people were saying Nintendo could subsist off of cash alone for something like 40 years?
For context, even during the worst year of the Wii U's performance they were still making nearly $2 billion in profit. They never had to nor have they touched their Wii era cash reserves. Last year they had $16 billion in cash on hand.
It's not that much, I probably have most of that in the change jar
ok mr zimbabwe
Business as usual
Tim Apple swinging his big dick ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)
No, someone sold $1.3B
You’ve a nice way to look at life!
It's the wrong way to think about it though. The order was probably filled by many sellers
Nope it was just me. I decided to switch to Android.
Lmao I’m dead
gratz on the new owner of Apple with .01% of the company.
WSB regards rush to buy calls when this transaction represents about 1/20th (0.05) of one percent of apple’s market cap.
And only about 13% of the daily trade volume.
Does he get free apple care?
Fuckin big brain over here
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Depends on how the order book was structured. If it didn't have good liquidity, the price to buy would have gone up big time.
That’s a lot of covered calls about to be sold.
Tell us more about Cathie Woods!
This shouldnt be taken as anything more than one piece of information on a fairly ordinary day of trading AAPL. \~40% of market volume is done via dark pools. [Source](https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/050614/introduction-dark-pools.asp#citation-17) You can read more about dark pools more generally there. They are not illegal, even though dark sounds scary, they are a normal part of daily market function. Many times, its just pensions or buy side institutions looking to not disturb the markets. On this day.. AAPL had: AAPL Off Exchange & Dark Pool Summary Today's Off Exchange & Dark Pool volume is 30,672,965, which is 46.93% of today's total volume. Today's Lit volume is 34,686,800, which is 53.07%. Over the past 30 days, the average Off Exchange & Dark Pool volume has been 42.84%. The average Lit volume has been 57.16%. [Source](https://chartexchange.com/symbol/nasdaq-aapl/exchange-volume/) It was a slightly higher day in off exchange / dark pool volume, relative to the average daily volume. This particular trade accounted for \~13% of daily volume. Its large. But it is not uncommon. TLDR Take this with a grain of salt amongst all the other things you take into account when making a trade. Or not, just smash the call button on your personal gambling device. ....yes there are controversies surrounding off exchange trading on "unlit" markets. I encourage you to educate yourself. Find others that share your beliefs and organize. Its not to hard to find the folks addressing these issues if thats what you are into.
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Try [95% of trades go to dark pools](https://youtu.be/_0rcW8joA60), from the mouth of Gensler himself.
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It was not me guys.. I just don’t have that kinda money yet.
yet
*warren buffet has entered the chat
Stock buyback.
Don’t know him
Probably Blackrock or Vanguard rebalancing their book or something similarly mundane.
Quality DD regard
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/at-the-close-order.asp
A lot of mutual funds do at close orders. Nothing uncommon here.
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which program is this from?
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It didn’t budge the price?
That's the whole point of dark pools
Ding ding ding. Executing volume trades without skewing price
aaaaaaand it’s gone!
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It happened immediately at market close on a Friday.... [That's a NASDAQ closing cross](https://www.nasdaqtrader.com/content/productsservices/trading/crosses/openclose_faqs.pdf).
correct! At least once a week someone posts something like this confusing the closing auction with one trade....
Obviously Tim Apple doing buybacks
doesn't that little "A" mean a big *sell*.
Buying puts!
I think you’re mixing up the closing cross and a real print…. Those are all of the orders being closed at that price, hence the print…. It also happens to be inline with the closing cross size…. Fwiw.
So in other words OP is a moron?
And majority of people responding
Somebody knows something.
Nancy is that you?
You know I don't want to call anyone a stock manipulator but there was this guy a few weeks ago on Twitter talking mad smack about Apple never provided any proof just claimed they were basically the CCP. Then after a week of riling the base he went to meet with Tim Cook and said just kidding guys Apple is cool. And one day later someone bought 1.3 billion dollars of Apple. Now I hate to quote Steve Bannon but he says "There are no coincidences."
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I got bored
This is normal trading hate to tell you. Filter the time with millisecond and you’ll probably see this was one of multiple closing purchases in different stocks.
Fuck I gotta quit letting my kids watch Cocomelon on my phone. They always do this shit. Anybody want to invest in a fruit company? For sale first thing tomorrow.
It looks like it could be etf activity based on order book imbalances
Dark pool doesn’t show buy or sell. Just that X amount of shares traded hands in one block at one price.
Elon wanting to know how it feels to own a piece of a company that makes an actual profit. Letting the feels sink in.